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ENMOD CREATING RADIATION DAMAGE TO PLANTS/ANIMALS IN USA ++

by uh huh Friday, Aug. 26, 2005 at 4:29 AM

--------------get pix of muties in your area!!!!-------those limes at the glowingmutie4bush page (devils fruit) came from LA!



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THE AMAZING LARGE SCALE MUTANT MESQUITES OF SW NM 2005

http://www.luxefaire.com/musquite2005/index.html

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BIOLOGICAL MUTATIONS OCCURRING DUE TO ENMOD
http://www.luxefaire.com/glowingmutie4bush/index.html


http://www.chapelhill.indymedia.org/news/2005/07/15830.php
http://richmond.indymedia.org/newswire/display/10863
http://neworleans.indymedia.org/news/2005/07/3663.php
http://www.ntimc.org/newswire.php?story_id=2876



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this crap again

by Hex Friday, Aug. 26, 2005 at 4:46 AM

this crap again...
flake_spam.gif, image/gif, 160x120

Plant mutations are very common, have been around for years and have nothing to do with unspecified "radiation".

But don't let mere facts get in the way of ignorant paranoia based spamming snake oil posts..



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note to johnk

by Hex Friday, Aug. 26, 2005 at 4:50 AM

only the first frame of animated GIF's are being processed - the GIF I just U/L'ed was 178.kb and it appears as a 5.kb GIF above
(that UFO was rotating)

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No matter the cause...

by Sheepdog Friday, Aug. 26, 2005 at 5:27 AM

I'd like to see a whole lot more data on this before I'd believe this isn't some kind of balloon.
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well considering your background

by Hex Friday, Aug. 26, 2005 at 6:29 AM

in the hard sciences (NOT) along with the tendency to believe any/all self-proclaimed "expert" on all things flakey and paranoid which conviently doesn't require any heavy thinking, research or data analysis, that's not too likely..

what IS likely is you will continue to post pasted flake crap devoid of any fact finding or checking - even when the facts are presented right up to your face.

the key fact here being plant mutations existing years before not only "chemtrails" but also the nuclear age.

A simple study of botanics will show - as I already pointed out, along with my personal experience in seeing tens of thousands of trees, bushes, flowers, herbs and foodcrops - all before "chemtrails"

Googling "plant mutations" will do

But you can't be bothered to do that - you're too busy spending all your time poisoning your mind with the waste products of other poisoned and dysfunctional minds - eating other's "mind shit" so to speak.

Having becomed addicted, it's the only "facts" you have time for with that attention span you have


723,000 hits for plant mutations

507 hits for "plant mutations"

Your search - "radiation plant mutations" - did not match any documents.

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like...

by Sheepdog Friday, Aug. 26, 2005 at 7:43 AM

...a baffoon balloon.
Still at your own mischief? Did you guys post this to begin with?

никакие цепи не могут держать людей если мы вытягиваем совместно
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"baffoon balloon" dwindling lies & games

by Hex Friday, Aug. 26, 2005 at 8:05 AM

the dialogue shrinks to cryptic and obtuse non-statements designed to conseal the ignorance and paranoia which started the spam thread in the first place..

"Tesla energy" did that too - smoke & mirror (bait & switch) 6 stooped to semantics (word games)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

I tried posting this reply over the space of a couple of hours - twice. Still does not appear (even though it says to wait a few minutes or a bit longer and I did so)


http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/03/312922.shtml

Jonesy


As the years slip by, the number of AIDS denialists plummets, as most of them seem to die from mysterious undiagnosed illnesses that their misguided friends assure everyone else "has nothing to do with AIDS". Even at death's door denial continues.
The list os "scientists" still comprises a fraction of 1% of the world's scientists who know the true facts about HIV/AIDS. Some people on this list don't even know they are on it - and have been aghast that statments concerning one or other fact about HIV which they have been in dispute about have now been misconstrued and placed them in the category of "dissident". A large number of "scientists" on the list are not even scientists, but media types, authors, complementary practitioners and so on. But once again, denialists don't let the facts spoil a good story.




Denialists ? -who's really in denial ?


I've been collecting data on AIDS for years and have seen numerous examples where the outcome of the disease didn't jive with traditionally accepted knowledge of either the cause or result.

Cases of repeated multible sexual contacts with HIV positive individuals that resulted in no disease even many years afterward as shown by HIV antibody tests.

Yet also cases of HIV-like symptoms with none of the risk factors enumerated by traditional knowledge with a quick mortality.

A strong connection between the highly toxic chemotherapy agents utilized for AIDS treatment and mortality, with conversely asymtomatic cases of HIV positive individuals who continue to live active healthy lives many years after coming up HIV positive.

The data strongly suggests that the whole HIV-AIDS situation is a scam and a fraud - not to mention the direct documented evidence that it's a man-made virus engineered specifically with the intent of being untreatable.

The epidemiology of the outbreaks DOES match vaccine programs - no amount of word play can "deny" that, and it's not the first disease or occurrence for this either.

It's not about superficially denying HIV/AIDS (such simplistic rhetoric only scratches the surface of the issue and discourages further investigation) - it's about the origins, causes, risk factors, treatments and money tied up in the whole scam.

A great example is cancer -

Billions of dollars have been spent on cancer research over the years yet we still aren't any closer to a cure today than we were 40 years ago.

Most of the same researchers who were in the cancer racket moved to the AIDS racket when it became popular.

Dire warnings were issued that millions are infected and would express AIDS and *DIE* when it was first announced in the early 80's. That timeframe has passed and yet the number of mortality cases actually seen has been only a tiny fraction of the doomsayer's predictions.


In this country -


Now looking at Africa we see AIDS is doing very well killing millions as predicted.

A close look at the *living conditions, standard of living, sanitation, and PESTICIDE USE* in Africa is very revealing.

Same as with cancer - all that money and time wasted on treating-curing cancer when the source of and solution to the problem is right under our nose

Toxic chemicals, pesticides, pollution, enviromental factors - lifestyle, diet...

The very companies and industries that have the majority of the traditional scientists in thier back pockets who are responsible for the cancer and AIDS, are the one's who attempt to bury the real issues and DENY thier own roles in these problems.

They then have a constant supply of denialists who go around demonizing anyone who sees this connection who use rhetorical sound bites to stifle and silence.

Notice how the original poster provided URLs and encouraged further study and research, acknowledging this being a complicated and prolonged subject - to think for yourself, to check the data, etc..

But the detractors simply rely on short attention span emotionally loaded statements that discourage further thought by emotionally shutting down the subject..

I also encourage much more study, research and investigation - specifically on the toxicity of pesticides, byproducts, industrial chemicals, and how they relate to the signs and symptoms of what is often called "AIDS".

See how few of the hundreds of thousands of chemicals in our enviroment have even basic safety testing performed due to COMMERCIAL INTRESTS applying pressure to save money, study Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) where you work, check the MSDS database and look at the raw list of chemicals approved for use, then see how few of them are actually known safe.

In this light the cause of cancer and "AIDS" when a cross-referanced to tonnage v country will become clear.

This is an even stronger correlation between disease and population than vaccines..


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Hi, Mr. Whizzard!

by Sheepdog Friday, Aug. 26, 2005 at 8:21 PM

-"the dialogue shrinks to cryptic and obtuse non-statements designed to conseal the ignorance and paranoia which started the spam thread in the first place..

"Tesla energy" did that too - smoke & mirror (bait & switch) 6 stooped to semantics (word games) "-

:>)
Why don't you provide the readers with the URL to this 'bait and switch' so that they may decide for themselves who is an ignoramus, Mr. Whizzard?
here it is:
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/08/134202.php

As for mutant veggies, it may be occurring more often than statistics would account for than in the past due to the increasing background radiation levels after thousands of tons of U238+ was burnt in the last decade or so of 'soft' nuclear warfare to disperse in unstoppable plumes of microscopic particles to cross the earth... Just a thought about this particular thread.
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academic = ignoramus

by Hex Saturday, Aug. 27, 2005 at 2:48 AM

So history and facts from *academic resources* is what you call "ignoramus" while shit you made up as you went, stooping to just word games at the end (energy ISN'T power - power ISN'T energy) is presented as overriding "truth"

And I suppose the other commenter was "ignorant" too to mention how sorely lacking in real science some people are - the very people (person) who automaticly believes any and all things flakely and paranoid

And that time machine is at it again with Uranium - plant mutations - once more - going back through *written history* well before the nuclear age

Just ignore that little fact and be "ignorant"

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awww, I know it's difficult

by Sheepdog Saturday, Aug. 27, 2005 at 4:27 AM

But could you please make a least a little sense?
For everyone's sake, Mr. Whizzard. Even your own. Babble isn't a reply. You need to actually say something. You know, to respond to something I wrote instead of making up concepts from your realm of something I didn't say. I suspect you can't.
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"For everyone's sake"

by Hex Saturday, Aug. 27, 2005 at 5:13 AM

I posted the unit of measure of magnetic energy from academic source - Oersteds, something you called "Tesla" which you then changed to say radio, then AC power, then changed to denying you ever said it, then denied power = energy..

Which you now claim is "ignorant babble" - on my part


magnetic energy - Oersteds, Gauss

Radio - Hertz

AC power - Westinghouse


"babble"




Ørsted, Hans Christian. (1777-1851).
Danish physicist, professor at the University of Copenhagen. Discovered that current flowing through a wire can deflect a magnetised compass needle, a phenomenon which inspired the development of electromagnetic theory. In 1932 the name Ørsted (Oersted) was adopted for the physical unit of magnetic field strength.



In 1887 a physicist named Heinrich Rudolf Hertz who proved that electricity can be transmitted in electromagnetic waves.


In 1886, George Westinghouse developed AC power, the patents are held by him.



From academic sources..


You claimed Tesla for all these things plus denied power is energy..


then accuse ME of "ignorant babble"

smooth



UNLIKE YOU, I studied real science from a young age

UNLIKE YOU, I have a full time job to clock into in 5 hours - with overtime on Sunday

I don't have time for your shit


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agian, Mr. Whizzard

by Sheepdog Saturday, Aug. 27, 2005 at 6:04 AM

Re read your own babble and show me that>
=", something you called "Tesla" which you then changed to say radio, then AC power, then changed to denying you ever said it, then denied power = energy.."-
As I said before, let the reader decide for themself without your particular brand of Whizz babble interpretations. ( just like fresca! )
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/08/134202.php
And...
Wasting your time is a choice your of your own. Deal with it.
I'll be back...
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'cause...

by Sheepdog Saturday, Aug. 27, 2005 at 6:12 AM

This is the consequence of information warfare. I don't need to expend a whole lot of energy to offer information.
Once out, it provides a platform for independent research. You, on the other hand, suffer a tactical disadvantage and require manhour resources I don't.
Got to run.
Have fun.
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stupidity v accomplishment

by Hex Saturday, Aug. 27, 2005 at 8:21 AM

stupidity v accompli...
information_warfare.jpg, image/jpeg, 345x318

my "disadvantage" is money well earned (as opposed to living off of other people's taxes) that I freely choose to engage in which becomes money well spent for things like ;

blank DVD's & CD's
networking equipment to expand the system
internet access (working on shared broadband)
electronic parts and solder


free movies, free CD's, free public internet access, free radio

that I offer with the proceeds..

doing things you are unwilling and unable to do (offer info and data on other's terms not just your own, free entertainment/internet/radio, don't know how to do networking, design and build circuits, etc, don't know real science, can't offer useful technical advice, only pie-in-the-sky pipe dreams at best which are useless)

all you do is collect flake shit and spam it


I do all these things for all these reasons and manage my time between priorities to accomplish far more with the same 24 hour day (I'm riding a bike back from work 3 times a week as well too now)

you can keep your "advantage"

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living off of other people's taxes)

by Sheepdog Saturday, Aug. 27, 2005 at 9:12 AM

Only freeloaders don't pay taxes.
Like 'you' and the wealthy.
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Addendum

by Sheepdog Saturday, Aug. 27, 2005 at 1:45 PM

Did 'you' type this?[ all spelling left uncorrected to reduce 'noise'.]
*** $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$***
stop paying taxes
by Hex Sunday, Jul. 31, 2005 at 7:23 AM

it's our taxes that feed the system - a real way to cause change is to stop the flow of money the system depends on to survive -
***$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$***
[ SD-And then, this diatribe - ]
***$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$***
-but doing this threatens our lifestyle

by not being willing to change our lifestyle and stop feeding the system we are actually doing nothing effective otherwise, excepting feel-good activities that only serve our own needs to make it ok to actually effectively be doing nothing

most activists aren't even willing to break any laws at all that risk thier own personal concerns and effects, like say illegal broadcasting, then have the gall to look down upon and exclude the very few who do, showing that the social dynamics of the activist movement are really just a mirror of society at large -
**** $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$***
[ And all this from a guy who thinks Westinghouse 'invented' AC current, instead of incorporating the true Genius of Tesla into the same weasel greed machinery of such captains of industry as Westinghouse and Rockefeller... And never, never heard of Tesla after he built, by hand, mind you in his own time, while supporting his mom ...on his bike, while assaulting other students with acid... this powerfull yet undiclosed radio station]
Do you guys come up with your own script? This is good stuff.
Not.
PS.
Okay, Mr. Whizzard
Now, do go on ( and on and on...) into another rant about 'Tesla energy'.... chuckle.
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Like 'you'

by Hex Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 4:41 AM

Like 'you'...
ant-m.jpg, image/jpeg, 340x260

funny my pay stubs and sales reciepts show otherwise


speaking of freeloaders - say people who *don't work* and simply live off of social benefits typically 5 times more than what they paid into the system - LIKE YOU, going around throwing the "freeloader" label - to a person like me *working a full time job* is the height of hypocrsy.



> a guy who thinks Westinghouse 'invented' AC current, instead of incorporating the true Genius of Tesla


I said westinghouse is the one responsible FOR the AC power we use today - he make it *practical* - he started installing AC power generators and systems. He holds the patents on it, he invented the AC power meter we still use today (design unchanged)

The "genius" of Tesla didn't do any of those things - if it were left up to Tesla AC power would only be a drawing on a piece of paper and we would be using Edison's DC power

This is a discussion we've had before - about being practical v a dreamer - like Tesla's "run on anything" motor which never saw the light of day either. AC power didn't either *until Westinghouse stepped in and *IMPLIMENTED IT*

There's a huge difference between an idea and a working model, and a huge difference between a prototype and equipment *actually in use* helping people.

But that's not really the point anyway - the point is your lack of knowledge in basic science leads you to swallow any claim then spam it here as fact

A lack you've demostrated time after time on here.

The claims for Tesla alone -

1.) Tesla energy
2.) is magnetic energy
3.) is electromagnetic energy
4.) is AC power

Tesla energy doesn't exist - elementary school science teaches that

So a guy with not even basic scientific knowledge is going around spamming disinformation then attacking using his "information warfare" bullshit games anyone who posts the truth

heat-light-magnetism-chemical-nuclear
magnetic energy - Oersteds, Gauss
Radio - Hertz
AC power - Westinghouse

playing word games, using more smoke & mirrors, changing the subject, doing anything to cover up the simple truth - you don't know even basic science and are unqualified to be dispensing "information", that in reality you are a flake shit spammer - a charlton, a quack, a snake oil salesman and nothing more



"he built, by hand, mind you in his own time, while supporting his mom ...on his bike, while assaulting other students with acid... this powerfull yet undiclosed radio station]
Do you guys come up with your own script? This is good stuff."

embellished

I've designed and built many many transmitters over the years, the station in use now is simply the most up to date - the signal goes even further than I thought BTW, it covers all of downtown (which I didn't intend) my mom has nothing to do with anything - she lives far away, and yes I ride a bike (unbelievable !), I did throw a vial of acid on a kid in school, the station isn't powerful - I don't want it to be too keep the FCC out of the picture - ditto for not pointing it out to YOU

hey I did post a stream grab for you which is from a FM tuner patched to the encoder - it's not my fault *your too stupid to play it*

here's a shot of my "imaginary" antennas for the "imaginary" stations - from the about us web page of our web server

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didn't quite get that

by Sheepdog Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 5:00 AM

'*your too stupid '
Thanks again, Mr. Whizzard.
:>)
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the dwindling reply

by Hex Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 6:11 AM

when confronted with the truth your retort shrinks down to nothing

thanks for all the "information" - that was very comprehensive and informative


I also have schematics of the entire transmitter chain (my own original design I could PATENT if I wanted to - especially the stereo exciter, Orban goes on & on about his audio processor designs - I do exactly the same type of design, applying a blend of psychoacoustics both in-circuit and taking advantage of the psychoacoustics in MP3's, combined with the unique challenge of wide-band FM modulation with special emphasis on the stereo subcarrier's modulation characteristics)

When I reviewed Robert's documents on his designs I saw my own design elements - I could go work for Orban or start a business on my own based on the same model.

The proof is in my signal - listening to the audio quality of the station you'll hear the sound of multi-thousand dollar audio processing equipment, but with even lower distortion because I use CDS cells for gain control in several stages which gives the sound a very soft/smooth "tube like" sound, an unusually clear midrange superimposed on the bass (most stations have some intermodulation distortion between the bass & midrange, plus they allow some THD as well to maximize the loudness within the constraints of deviation allowance (75.khz)

I can post a HQ clip of the station's sound if you like so you can hear for yourself what I mean. I achieve the sound of the very best DSP based audio processors with my design, which is far simpler and cheaper (I traded complexity and silicon for extremely careful hand-tuning - my time for additional circuits)

THIS is what I'm actually proud of - not the transmitter but the stereo exciter which is the really difficult and complicated part.

Anyone can build a transmitter, they sell kits for even novices with no understanding of how they work to build - even you could do it..

They do not have decrete stereo exciter kits because they require extremely critical adjustments and expensive test equipment to tune.

I have a full understanding of them, and am able to use my ears (and a software-based spectrum analyser running on a computer) to impliment them.

The sound quality is directly derived from my own sense of hearing, and with several stages ganged this means that in order for the final sound to be good *each stage has to be several times better* than average to that the total result is not only acceptable but great.

Since I use my own ears to design, adjust and tune these stages and the sum is still very high quality, this should tell you something about how good my hearing is...


The stream clip has been transcoded to a rather low quality bitrate with fake treble (SBR) yet the extra high sound quality STILL comes through - when compared to other stations on the aire - who use very expensive equipment but which is adjusted improperly due to 2 reasons

1.) they are trying to be as loud as possible within modulation constraints
2.) the person doing the adjustments (usually the station engineer) doesn't have very goo hearing (usually elderly but even if not he doesn't *always protect his ears with earplugs like I do*)

I'm very strict about protecting my hearing in any situation where the sound pressure level exceeds 50-60.dB's which is a stricter standard than what's considered the threshold for hearing damage. I always wear ear plugs at work for example, always wear full size closed cup headphones at a live venue and religiously avoid high pressure level situtations like fireworks, gunshots, etc.

The only fireworks I made were quiet types, when I made explosions I always covered my ears, etc.. With very rare exceptions

It's a lower pressure level over time that matters most (like an 8 hour work shift) rather than an instantaneous level although avoiding that is important too. The average level over time is what really damages your hearing..

This is why I design and build audio circuits (starting with power amps in the 80's) and why stereo exciters represent the highest achievement of this ability - because they require a blend of audio quality v psychoacoustics v modulation constraints..


So if you wish to disbelieve anything to do with my radio work, disbelieve THAT

I can provide schematics and pictures RIGHT NOW to back this up - like the scale drawings/blueprints and pictures of your "solar collector" ?

hell it's no wonder you think other people make things up - because YOU DO


http://www.orban.com/

I do this exact same design using my own unique circuits, ideas and tuning - read about it on this website and discover how complicated stereo transmitting really is - Robert has it all laid out, I impliment all of these techniques excepting phase rotation which I dislike (and engineers often disable)
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just wondering, Mr. Whizz...

by Sheepdog Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 6:26 AM

just wondering, Mr. ...
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Did you type this?
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http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/06/130407_comment.php#130845
-"let a "devisive troll" explain
by Hex Monday, Jun. 27, 2005 at 2:23 AM

> cultures that are not white.

I'm not white -
[or]
here's the clean miss Hex anon w/ encryption 2003-09-09 12:02 AM
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/09/80694_comment.php#81812

[photo of....?]

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SD-Did you type this?^
So... you are a...composit? .>)
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that's right - and wrong

by Hex Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 6:31 AM

I'm American Indian

can you TELL from a picture ?

and what does this have to do with stereo modulation, or Tesla for that matter ?

I still have YOUR picture - the embarrassing one were you look like a punk rocker


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that took about 20 min

by Sheepdog Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 6:35 AM

Have fun.
I'd like to see if you were joshing me, that's all.
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Awwww

by Sheepdog Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 6:38 AM

Awwww...
sheepdog2gif.gif, image/gif, 315x251

Geez all ya has to do is ask...
A picture of me AND my family.
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/49088.php
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managed time

by Hex Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 7:40 AM

I DO do other things - just came back from the hardware store for example where I bought a thermometer (made in china the cheap bastards)

that dog doesn't look like a punk rocker

do read about the optimod audio processors and you'll be looking at almost exactly what I design - if you ask me technical questions about stereo modulation like hard composite limiting v soft cornered compression combined with tracking high frequency limiting I can answer IN DETAIL the pro's and con's beyond what Orban does (he only addresses spillage and separation in the static sense without touching on psychoacoustical effects like temporal masking and dynamics - in other words his designs largely ignore psychoacoustics whereas mine incorporate them to gain more advantage in percieved clairity)

some of my design elements naturally add temporal masking due to thier inherent characteristics - this adds another dimention to the concept of in-circuit psychoacoustical effects, by design.

I figured out these methods by doing a series of experiments building on my "ultra bass booster" design from the 80's I used to offer when I worked at car stereo shops (which was a poor-man's replacement for the expensive "epicenter" enhancer)

This design element when applied to stereo separation and high frequency limiters adds a natural psychoacoustical gain curve which when the gain span is adjusted properly almost perfectly matches temporal masking curves.

This is the single biggest reason why my design manages to to give such high sound quality without the complexity, expense or *signal delay* Orban's designs suffer from.

In these criteria my designs are superior to his..

Orban admits his designs suffer from processing delay enough to make live monitoring impossible with under processing mode, whereas my designs have *no delay at all* !

(this means when your station audio runs through his box when you try to listen to yourself in headphones talking or singing you'll hear a confusing echo that makes it very difficult to keep from stuttering)

My box has no delay and doesn't suffer from this problem because all the stages are fully analog with no digital processing, with CDS cells taking the place of digital pads that have very carefully adjusted gain scales that take advantage of the inherent attack and decay rates.

A very clever design if I do say so myself - but one which requires expert knowledge of both psychoacoustics and audio and general circuit design.

Orban is starting to use psychoacoustics in his newest boxes but I've been using them for years - with analog circuit elements to boot

(analog circuits have no delay problems and yield a more natural sound so say some people who like vinyl over CD, tube over transistor. I don't actually agree but do see what they are driving at, and impliment these factors in my designs for that same "natural sound" they like so much)



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here's your forte' I BELIEVE

by Hex Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 8:32 AM

here's your forte'  ...
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repost to check animation - looks like it's working now

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maybe that GIF is bad

by Hex Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 8:35 AM

maybe that GIF is ba...
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this monkey one works..

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' that dog doesn't look like a punk rocker '

by Sheepdog Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 11:44 AM

Very Good.
That's 'cause it isn't one.
That's Sheepdog (me) and you're confusing me with someone else.
Again.
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confusing me with someone else

by Hex Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 6:52 PM

care to argue that point with the wayback machine ?

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You can ride it yourself

by Sheepdog Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 7:22 PM

But...
Feel free to indulge yourself.
I'll watch.
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you know the wayback machine

by Hex Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 7:42 PM

is what brought you Jon's web page that www.whatreallyhappened.org was looking for that I posted which blew the CNN story out of the water

when you posted your old picture titled billder it took a snapshot...

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You're incorrect

by Sheepdog Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 7:54 PM

still aint me.
Where exactly do you get these notions of omnipotence?
You have confused me again with that guy with the tattoo. I'd be really stupid to have identifying ink on me. Unlike my brother who had Harley Davidson ( the moron) done on his arm...
But do go on. I've got my seat here in the front.
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a couple of signs

by Hex Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 8:04 PM

1.) you know all about it and him
2.) you react to the exposure
3.) you and him never post concordantly, yet ;
4.) you both post exactly the same things and exactly the same links
5.) you exploded when I posted a comment making fun of him (about water being dangerous)

so then - are you his evil twin or just a clone ?

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exactly the same links

by Sheepdog Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 8:10 PM

guess I can't help being paralelled. Still aint me.
what links, dude?
Show me the meat. With URLs
Remember the debacle you got involved with, calling on my 'hidden comments'? Have fun.
:>)
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Addendum2

by Sheepdog Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 8:16 PM

Are you refering to similar Google searches? Maybe that's your mistake. I know it's hard for you sometimes to understand.
If not for the omnipotent factor, that is.
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welcome to my home

by Hex Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 8:31 PM

> debacle you got involved with, calling on my 'hidden comments'?


what "debacle" ? You proved the point for me yourself - you posted just some of the many hidden *threads* (not comments)


the point being -

how many threads of yours have been hidden ?

(many)

how many of MY threads ?

none

how many threads do I post anyway ?

(very few - I almost always only add comments)

none of these facts are in contention so how is it a "debacle" ?


the fact that your threads get hidden yet you keep posting them anyway means you're a SPAMMER

you acknowledged that yourself - and framed it as part of your "information warfare" tactic - great ! so your abusive to IMC as well..


I pointed out that I attempt to do none of those things

1.) try not to post threads
2.) try not to be abusive
3.) try not to offend
4.) try not to cause the admin extra effort or annoyance
5.) try not to waste bandwidth
6.) try not to post untruths - inaccurate information

you should think of being here as like being a visitor in someone's home, would you spray paint graphitti on the livingroom walls ? and keep doing it over & over when they paint it over ? WHICH MEANS THEY DON'T LIKE IT.

do they have to lock the door on all of us just to keep you out ? or tolerate your graphitti for our sake and just keep painting it over...


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Addendum3

by Sheepdog Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 8:33 PM

A minor comment on Information Warfare.
From the enemy point of view.
The amount of reactionary psyops must be proportionally higher to the amount of uncontrolled information to slow the information flare. The tactics evolved, i,e. derailing and flame war approaches up to the present have seen adaptation by a growing sophistication of an informed readership.
This leaves the enemy to evolve new tactics.
Like constructing a credible gatekeeper.
The keyword being credible, Mr. Whizzard.
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"show me the links"

by Hex Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 8:34 PM

so if you walk in the livingroom wearing different masks and costumes but spray paint *exactly the same graphitti* on the walls you think no one will know it's you ?



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"MY graphitti doesn't stink"

by Hex Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 8:39 PM

> the enemy / derailing and flame war / the enemy

so if the graphitti is in a military camo pattern that makes it okay ?

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Interested in it

by Sheepdog Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 8:47 PM

you're telling me< I> waste BW?
How mean of you to infer this. (choke- sniffle-)
:>(
Still no meat eh?
Dreadful pity.
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infer

by Hex Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 9:06 PM

let's review ;

you walk in wearing a mask and costume

you spray paint your graphitti on IMC's walls

they paint it over

you do it again

they paint it over again

ad infinum

the graphitti costs money, painting it over costs time & effort - the money is already spent by your posting it

the proof is in the hiding

whats to infer ?


I post comments - that costs them money too.

hopefully I add something of value to at least try to comphensate for the cost. (really any regular contributer should donate some money though)

if they are hiding your threads that means you're costing them money and you *definately don't comphensate* as far as they're concerned, and in fact additionally cost them time and effort as well...

but that's okay with you as long as it serves YOUR needs for "information warfare"...

and the best you can come with as a thank-you is to be sarcastic

they just spent a shitload of money to rebuild this newswire - more money than *I* could afford (all my equipment is poor-man's throwaways - things other people throw in the trash)

around 3 or 4 weeks pay which mostly goes for rent and food...

If it was *my* IMC it would have taken me months to save up enough money on my budget to bring it back.

I could barely even afford the pipe (symetric commercial DSL)

I'd be pissed off if I was in thier shoes and you spammed the newswire on my dime..

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value added

by Sheepdog Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 9:19 PM

-' I add something of value'-
You mean like the typing monkey gifs?
Or the cheetoes girl?
Sure shows me up.
And hey, I try to donate but johnk hasn't got the page set up yet.

Sorry pal, give me an address, and I'll send youse guys a money order.
Pay Pal = evil.
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Hey IMC folk

by Sheepdog Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 9:32 PM

Didn't you have the donate page working a while back; before the upgrades?
Damnit.
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FIX THE DONATE PAGE, PEOPLE... thank you

by Sheepdog Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 9:54 PM

did you type this?
***

welcome to my home
by Hex Saturday, Aug. 27, 2005 at 3:31 PM
snip
- how many threads do I post anyway ?

(very few - I almost always only add comments)

none of these facts are in contention so how is it a "debacle" ?


the fact that your threads get hidden yet you keep posting them anyway means you're a SPAMMER

you acknowledged that yourself - and framed it as part of your "information warfare" tactic - great ! so your abusive to IMC as well..


I pointed out that I attempt to do none of those things

1.) try not to post threads
2.) try not to be abusive
3.) try not to offend
4.) try not to cause the admin extra effort or annoyance
5.) try not to waste bandwidth
6.) try not to post untruths - inaccurate information-

(?)

whew....
everything's relative, absolutly.

everything's relative, absolutely. Now, for some cryptic comment.
:>) По-русски!

Танцулька идет дальше!
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the proof is in the hiding

by Hex Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 9:57 PM

the proof is in the ...
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I made this as an artistic statement - my form of artwork ^


> typing monkey/cheetoes girl?

> Sure shows me up.


are they HIDDEN ?


question answered..


try donating TRUTH - see if that gets hidden, see if you can send that successfully

or will it be paid lies ?

like a commercial







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did the sun rise today

by Hex Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 10:12 PM

did the sun rise tod...
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no a ghost typed it

all things are relative

all relatives are things

my relatives took all my things




I just noticed something else - the pictures are re-sized automagicly to keep the page from stretching out

that picture is my idea of beauty - both the form and colors (the form is from nature but at a micro level too small to see without extreme magnification, and I picked and laid out the colors, blue being my favorite color.) A picture like this is as close to conventional art as I get..

this one is an offset version which was my second best choice

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5.) try not to waste bandwidth

by Sheepdog Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 10:27 PM


Dreadful hypocrisy even if it is beautiful.
I am only posting on this thread. simple text.
Do you know how much BW you have used in such a recent compressed time frame?
To the somehow still curious ( or caught in some Voyeuristic death grip ) reader...
Go to the [More Local News] link, open a new window and type [ Hex ] into the upper frame box where author is listed.
Then open the number displayed in the box next to [Sort BY] by dragging down to 200. Don't forget to click the comments box on.
Tell me about number 5.) Hex.
Note to weary reader ( who isn't suffering an expresso rush) this always gets funny as Mr. Whizzard takes another pearl dive.
Have heart.
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and the word HIDDEN

by Hex Sunday, Aug. 28, 2005 at 11:47 PM

and the word HIDDEN...
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never crosses his lips or keyboard

my graphitti isn't being painted over..


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Okay, so not always funny

by Sheepdog Monday, Aug. 29, 2005 at 4:37 AM

Sometime just incoherent, trailing off on some unrelated side issue of your own.
Not an effective approach.

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...steering back into the lane, missing mom by 1/2 inch

by Sheepdog Monday, Aug. 29, 2005 at 5:08 AM

This thread, aside from its perverse personal Entertainment Value brings to mind a few interesting issues.
Is the increasing background radiation levels accounting for epidemiological mutation? In animals as well as plants.
This is a serious issue despite the Whizzards work in progress.

Think of the huge amount of radiological waste from the nuclear industry that is litterally being dumped into OUR environment. Gulf war sickness could make the gas casualties of WW1 seem mild. For everyone.

For fucking ever.
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Type in [Results 1 - 10 of about 1,820,000 for increasing background radiation levels. ]

by Sheepdog Monday, Aug. 29, 2005 at 5:16 AM

Interesting times, eh?
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blood for spit ?

by Hex Monday, Aug. 29, 2005 at 5:24 AM

See here sheepdog

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/08/27/D8C88SP80.html

You owe $145,000. And the bill is rising every day. That's how much it would cost every American man, woman and child to pay the tab for the long-term promises the U.S. government has made to creditors, retirees, veterans and the poor.


*I* am a working man who has NEVER recieved any form of assistance - I've always worked for a living, so that $ 145,000 is fully on my head

YOU are a retiree, a veteran - one of the person's responsible for that debt hanging over MY head. A person who is getting 5 times the benefits you paid into yourself - *I make up the other 4* out of my payroll taxes - benefits *I will never see because the social security system is going bankrupt and being raided as we speak by bush et al*


So while you sit around all day spamming flake shit on your DSL *my taxes pay for* I have to go to work and can spend only limited time on my dial-up. I have to work today - Sunday too, to make ends meet. I only have 1 day off a week..

1 out of every 6 days I work goes simply to pay taxes..

Your "information warfare" appearantly includes sucking the lifeblood out of others then spitting in thier faces to show your appreciation..

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further thoughts

by Sheepdog Monday, Aug. 29, 2005 at 5:25 AM

Results 1 - 10 of about 33,700 for epidemiological mutation + background +radiation.

If anyone is ... interested.
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didn't bother, Whizzer...

by Sheepdog Monday, Aug. 29, 2005 at 5:41 AM

:>)
It's kinda like 'don't care- don't ask'
chuckle
but if you want you could fold the website up until the corners are sharp
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/08/27/D8C88SP80.html
and, with a large stamping and seizing module, position it where the daylight never touches.
:>)

What could possible keep you up all night on this, in your own judgment, silly thread?

A raw nerve being pissed on?
Does it hurt?
Can I help?
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maybe this will help

by sheepdog Monday, Aug. 29, 2005 at 6:25 AM

Hazards from alpha irradiation of tracheobronchial lymphatic tissue from inhaled and translocated Depleted Uranium

The Uranium in armour piercing weapons burns on impact, forming insoluble ceramic particles of Uranium Oxide. This provides a radiation exposure route which can be expected to have serious effects on the lymph system (known to be a critical organ for leukaemogenesis1) without Uranium having to be ingested in quantities sufficient to cause heavy metal poisoning.

Particles in the size range 0.1 microns to [say] 5 microns are easily transported in air and can be resuspended. They are small enough to cross the lung wall when inhaled, and are scavenged to the lymph nodes.

We are aware of no measurements of Uranium dose to lymphatic tissue specifically but post mortem analyses2,3 of Plutonium show high concentrations in the tracheo-bronchial lymph nodes (in one subject2, the TBLNs had concentrated the Plutonium to values 40 times higher than the lungs; these tiny pieces of tissue, weighing 16.5 grammes, contained 17.5% of the Plutonium 239 in the entire body). -
http://www.llrc.org/du/subtopic/duparticletable.htm

Now consider the quantity of munitions involved in the 'soft' nuclear war we and our children will inherit.
search engines are total...
I like this deeplink:
http://dmoz.org/Society/Issues/Warfare_and_Conflict/Weapons/Depleted_Uranium/
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more spittle - and a subject change !

by Hex Monday, Aug. 29, 2005 at 7:15 AM

> keep you up all night on this,

I worked & slept - I wasn't "up all night"

I came back from work - did some more posting, got a good night's rest (for me - my second shift day is shifted) and got up and am posting now

between breaks in installing a new hot water heater

check the timestamps

and I thought you didn't believe in googling ? didn't you just post some disparging remark above about me using it ?

Uranium is all fine & dandy but basic science teaches about the *atomic weight* of Uranium and it's *chemical properties*

Uranium can't travel around the world

in order for an isotope to spread around it either has to be dispersed (vaporized at extreme temps) or chemically combine with other elements

and you (or your source) for "plant & animal mutations on the rise due to Uranium" thousands of miles away non-fission/fusion involved only shows your ignorance of basic science - again

now your story changes to Uranium over there doing things over there, and other isotopes leaking into the conversation

that same old twisting dwindling routine

sheepdog's little one-step..



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Uranium can't travel around the world

by Sheepdog Monday, Aug. 29, 2005 at 7:41 AM

so you're saying that their air and particulate ( most of which are below the 1 mircron cross section ) suspensions... stay over there.

Like they said at Chernoble.
That is, until the Swedish radiation counters began to scream. You're dealing in degrees of contamination, only.
I'd laugh at you but it's so damn sad.

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are you certain....

by Sheepdog Monday, Aug. 29, 2005 at 7:52 AM

this is good... you don't even read your own script.
-' has to be dispersed (vaporized at extreme temps)'-
What the hell are you talking about?
That's exactly what U238 DOES when it is used.
Well above 10k centagade, if it hits steel/ceramic.
Christ.
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jesus are you really THAT dumb ?

by Hex Monday, Aug. 29, 2005 at 8:11 AM

> Like they said at Chernoble

um- FISSION


armorments are NOT fission or fusion


the reason dumbass is because the isotope undergoes atomic conversion to other related isotopes as a "brew" of different elements related by atomic decay products

this and the *millions of degrees* binds the radioactivity to other natural/enviromental elements - which act as the bio-carriers..


Uranium is too heavy - even as dust quickly falls to the ground NOT TO MENTION only very mildly radioactive to begin with (compared to *related isotopes and decay products*) so there's no bioactivity concerning Uranium beyond a confined area around the release point since it's not chemically reactive like salt it can't dissolve in any quanity in say WATER for example..

When an isotope sets out to contaminate the world it must either be dispersed in a reactor/bomb (fission or fusion) or it must dissolve easyly, or combine easyly with something that does..

Uranium is worse than lead - do you go around saying LEAD is killing us all ?

Are you spamming the warning that our car batteries, paint, solder are contaminating us ?

Heavy unreactive things don't travel far - not around the world (a car battery in Russia is killing me)


And because of this considering the distance of the release point, the sun gives us hundreds of times more radiation already..

If the Uranium was being fired HERE, or if it involved fission/fusion - reactors or bombs - it would be a different story



Your ignorance is staggering


please go to school - you missed it


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getting funny now.....

by Sheepdog Monday, Aug. 29, 2005 at 8:54 AM

http://www.greens.org/s-r/15/15-20.html
The US Department of Defense has more than 1.1 billion pounds of nuclear waste in storage from 50 years of nuclear weapons production and nuclear power plants. The government, hemmed in by public opposition, health and environmental movements, is always trying to find new "acceptable" ways to dispose of it. It has apparently found one.
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that car battery is killing me again - funny

by Hex Monday, Aug. 29, 2005 at 10:15 AM

that car battery is ...
artisticly_pleasing_jar_arrangement.jpg, image/jpeg, 250x263

in storage - as in storage battery

much of the worst (which is all that could matter) is underground in deep mines, in any case in bunkers in remote areas..

If you hit a storage facility with a bomb...

otherwise the sun - being funny - is hundreds of times stronger AGAIN

ha ha - funny



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Display fun

by Sheepdog Tuesday, Aug. 30, 2005 at 4:02 AM

Display fun...
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' Heavy unreactive things don't travel far '
{ but the by-products, in .1 micron oxides, do, by active transport.}

Mr. Whizzard.
Our dedicated and indefatigable gatekeeper. All things pass through the scientific bowels of this devise. Sometimes there is pain as is normal, if unpleasant.
Yes, it's intentional. Just grab the bar and strain.
Doing a bit of graphic digging for Whizz, since this seems to help him focus.
plus some references.
- [ The satellite discussed in this feature] Terra circles the Earth from pole to pole, 16 times every day.

"With these new observations you clearly see that air pollution is much more than a local problem
http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/gsfc/earth/terra/co.htm

This simply means that the radioactive pollution ( you may wish to quibble about gamma, beta or alpha sources, Mr. Whizz, but woot; there it is...) is only DILUTED as we enjoy the increasing heat.
[Dear reader, this is exactly why open air testing was banned]

And our sun, the other radiation source you slime use to relativise this issue, that little, main sequence G, is way................over there. 8 or so light minutes. Are you going to lecture me on solar wind? I'll put in some popcorn.
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