Harbor City Small Business Knowingly Hosts Anti-Muslim Website

HARBOR CITY- In a sign of our times, a new cyber vigilante organization has taken to the Web, setting its sights on shutting down Islamic Internet forums, calling for the death of Muslims, and even suggesting that Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, "nigger cunt from georgia," be killed.  The Website KOBEHQ is hosted by Harbor City, California computer store Computers N.L.A.  Dave Young (see bottom of linked page), believed to be owner of Computers N.L.A. has been notified of the activities of the KOBE Organization, but has not taken action to stop the Website's hate activities.  Confirmation that Mr. Young has received notification has been documented.  In an interesting sequence of events, emails sent to Dave Young have been responded to by KOBE SBM, the anonymous name used by the owner of the KOBEHQ website.

One of the targets of the KOBE Organization's reign of hate and harassment, the website Break Your Chains, has documented the activities of KOBE.  Break Your Chains hosts the John Poindexter Awareness Office.  The vigilante organization, KOBEHQ, has sustained a campaign of harassment against the website's owner, in a manner that provokes memories of the COINTELPRO operations of the 60s and 70s.

KOBE Headquarters Fights anti

...yes, the KOBE site may contain nudity and offensive commentary...but you won't find anything SUBERSIVE....

Fuckin' fascists!

Kobe also likes to attack Middle School message boards. In the rural midwest a group of kobeites has posted lewd messages and pornographic pictures on a Middle School message board. They have engaged in lewd conversation with minors. They are not patriots or Americans.....they are terrorists and no better than Al-Queda or Hussein.

You demand that the KOBE website be shut down.

Yet there was a great wailing and gnashing of teeth when that web hosting company dropped al Jazeera. The Indymedia collective cried "Oppression!" and moaned about al Jazeera's freedom of speech.

Make up your minds.

Gee, I don't recall al-Jazeera ever engaging in any cyberterrorism. What day is it in your world, davie boy? In the REAL world, it's Friday. Care to join us in the REAL world, davie boy?

Like raisethefist.com?

You guys were yelling pretty loud about their webmaster getting arrested.

Double Standard Days, indeed.

Unsubstantiated allegation.

It's clever that you went from al-Jazeera to raisethefist.com. Very clever. NOT.

Double standards are alive and well and living in Indymedia.

From the above article:

"Dave Young (see bottom of linked page), believed to be owner of Computers N.L.A. has been notified of the activities of the KOBE Organization, but has not taken action to stop the Website's hate activities."

"They are not patriots or Americans.....they are terrorists and no better than Al-Queda or Hussein."

From the thread JUDGE REJECTS PLEA FOR RAISETHEFIST.COM WEBMASTERhttp://la.indymedia.org/news/2002/10/19488_comment.php#55459

"it makes me completely out raged when a young black man is promoting positive change within the world and is now in jail."

"Raise The Fist is the best anarchic site.

Free Sherman to continue his most important work."

"I vow to keep the Reclaim guide available online with a proper disclaimer: I do condone, advocate and incite the use of violence against law enforcement authorities and political figures including the president of USA."



Now: do you see the double standard? You claim KOBE is guilty of cyberterrorism, yet you rush to the defense of a man who posts bomb instructions on his website.

Explain why that is not a double standard in action.

I know nothing about raisethefist.com's activities, legal or otherwise. I do, however, know about KOBE's illegal activities. You seem to believe that cyberterrorism is fine, as long as the people engaging in it agree with your political beliefs. It's still odd that you went from al-Jazeera to raisethefist.com. Odd, indeed.

And I'll explain why.

The author of the above article wants KOBE shut down for cyberterrorism.

Indymedia decries the arrest of raisethefists's webmaster, who has been charged with cyberterrorism.

Indymedia decried al Jazeera being dropped by their American web host.

The link tying all these together? The pro-Islamic bias of Indymedia. If an action is performed by Muslims, it is lauded. If the same action is performed by non-Muslims, it is condemned.

Al Jazeera lost their American host. This was "bad" because the pro-Arab view was perceived to have been lost to America, and there were cries of "oppression!" with governmental involvement suggested.

KOBE claims to be opposed to violent Islamization in specific and Islam in general, yet does not advocate violence except in self-defense. Indymedia apparently wants KOBE shut down, ostensibly because of "cyberterrorism", but let's be honest: it's because KOBE is anti-Islam.

Raisethefist.com's webmaster pled guilty to the felony charge of "18 U.S.C. 842 (p)(2)(A): DISTRIBUTION OF INFORMATION RELATING TO EXPLOSIVES, DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES, AND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION WITH THE INTENT THAT SUCH INFORMATION BE USED IN FURTHERANCE OF A FEDERAL CRIME OF VIOLENCE."

Face it: Indymedia loves terrorists, be they anarchists or Islamists.

I condemn cyberterrorism from any source. Indymedia does not, and the call for the shutdown of KOBE while raisethefist's webmaster is defended is proof.

Like I said, double standards.

I wasn't aware that Indymedia had an official policy regarding cyberterrorism. Whether you choose to believe it or not, the members of KOBE are cyberterrorists. I guess that's okay with you since they're on your side of the political spectrum.

..."I condemn cyberterrorism from any source." is giving you trouble?

I never claimed KOBE were not cyberterrorists. I repeated claims made on the KOBE site, and made it clear that they were KOBE's claims, not mine.

Indymedia may not have an official policy regarding terrorism, but its individual posters sure seem to.

Now please explain why the condemnation of KOBE and the defense of raisethefist is not a double standard.

Please explain why the defense of KOBE and the condemnation of raisethefist is not a double standard.

If you'd bothered to read my posts instead of thinking up a funny nichname, you'd know I was neither defending KOBE nor condemning raisethefist.

As I said, and will have to apparently keep repeating, I condemn cyberterrorism whatever the source.

You sent pornographic pictures and messages to children. Your organization makes me sick. I believe everyone has the right to free speech, but when you start behaving like a pedophile, you need to be stopped and arrested. I would love to see you in a cell with a man named Bubba who bends you into pretzel positions every night after "Matlock". I am also glad to see that your website is no longer around for the general public to stumble on.

That is why you should be shut down and charged. People logged everything your group did. Parents were outraged. Your biggest screw-up was when one of your idiots, I'm sure they couldn't help themself, wrote KOBE RULZ all over the website I am talking about........using the same IP they had used to proposition a little kid for sex. REAL SMART!!!!!

Yeah, they're cool. I support them because they hate Ay-Rabs.

Thanks for your concern but it is entirely misplaced. I have nothing to do with KOBE, as I seem to have to keep repeating. Maybe someday it'll sink into your head.

But I doubt it. Mental illness can be a son-of-a-gun.

Beam me up, there ain't no white trash ho's down here.

...are really annoying.

But, then again, that's your purpose.

I have far too much intelligence to post one liners like that, and when I post here, I have something to say. Last I read, Those idiots think you're me anyway! They also think Im fresca, Diogenes, Sheepdog, etc. Im sure we are much less annoying than they are.

But I did tell them days ago...

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/06/61996_comment.php#62034

""Mr Sheepdog

by Rational Normal Person • Tuesday June 03, 2003 10:47 PM

ALL of the spam posts are comming from an individual who shall remain nameless but is an associate of devoy.

The defensive of devoy posts are actually comming from Mr devoy himself.

Linguistic analysis shows that real posts from Kobe SBM go on for pages and pages!!! not the imped one liners. ""

Mr Sheepdog

by Rational Normal Person • Wednesday June 04, 2003 08:14 AM



May I swallow your baby batter?

"I am also glad to see that your website is no longer around for the general public to stumble on."

EXCUSE ME?

Try typing "KOBE Headquarters" in any search engine you know. Better yet, try typing "kobehq". According to the world's busiest search engines, KOBEs have gone FAR beyond the "general public", you moron! I might not like some of the shit they do, but they make most of you anarchist types look like fools on a daily basis.

"...but they make most of you anarchist types look like fools on a daily basis."

Unsubstantiated Allegation.

Simply statements of FACT. Review any of the threads where these so-called "kobe" and Stephen Devoy are involved, and the commentary is overwhelmingly in support of the "kobe". Besides that, they have a sense of humor which you anarchist types seem to lack.