As we left the Ben Gurion-Tel Aviv airport, my colleagues and I excitedly scanned the new landscape that surrounded us. Our first impression was how incredibly familiar it felt to California. A field of orange trees, perfect rows of irrigated crops, a salty breeze from the Mediterranean Sea. Maybe we were just hyper-aware of our surroundings, looking to find parallels between our home and this new region, but the reality is that Israel and California share a striking similarity in their physical environments and, subsequently, their challenges to manage water resources.

This core connection between California and the Middle East, particularly Israel, was one motivation for our trip. The other was the release of our recent paper on groundwater depletion in the Tigris-Euphrates-Western Iran region. It is a well-known fact that this entire region faces extreme challenges to manage their scarce water resources. Drought, increasing agricultural water demand, population pressures, and competing stakeholders add to an already stressed water system. Despite these challenges, this region is at the forefront of water management. The regional efforts to collaboratively manage surface water resources from the Jordan River and groundwater aquifers, for example by Friends of the Earth Middle East, as well as Israel’s strategies to maximize and efficiently use every last drop of water, are revolutionary.

In Israel, wastewater from urban areas is used to irrigate nearly 100% of crops in a desert while desalination accounts for 60% of water supply in densely populated regions. Pricing for water accurately reflects the costs to transport and produce the water, but these prices are affordable for all. Crops that can be grown with “poor quality” water, such as brackish or reclaimed wastewater, are cultivated while water-intensive agriculture and flood irrigation is rejected. Greenhouses and drip irrigation systems dominate the irrigation landscape. Clearly, the world, and including California, could learn a thing or two from Israel.


Over the course of our two weeks in the Middle East, we will meet with the key water authorities, water utility companies, civil society members, and university researchers in Israel, Palestinian territories, and Jordan. During our “science diplomacy” trip, we hope to not only share our research, but to learn from a region that is a prototype for effective water management.


Technion University was our first stop on this water journey, where we met with researchers at the Grand Water Research Institute (GWRI). During our conversation at Technion, we learned about the Israeli tools to allocate, reuse, and distribute water and how academic research improves these tools. Israel’s water monitoring and allocation system is phenomenal – every drop of water, from freshwater resources to desalinated water, is accounted for, priced accordingly, and delivered to the end-user. Although agriculture has the largest demand for freshwater resources, the government water policy restricts the freshwater allocation to approximately 0.450 km3 and not a drop more. The residual agricultural water demand is fulfilled by Israel’s extensive recycled wastewater and brackish water distribution system. The other major end-user, domestic water demand, is met by desalination, surface water from the Sea of Galilee, freshwater rivers and aquifer supplies.

For we Californians, it was surprising and inspiring to hear about the innovative strategies in place to meet agricultural water demands and, even more so, that the farmers were completely in support of these policies. In the States, we have very little monitoring of agricultural water use, particularly of groundwater abstraction. If groundwater were as closely allocated and monitored in the U. S. as the resources are in Israel, the monitoring may be regarded as a breach of personal freedoms, since groundwater rights are tied to property rights in much of the country. Yet here in Israel, the farmers have fully supported this progressive strategy to both strictly monitor and allocate water resources and to introduce new supplies through desalination and recycled water. Much of their support appears to be the result of an ongoing communication and social outreach initiative to inform farmers about the limits to water resources and the opportunities to meet water demands through more sustainable practices. How could we drive a shift in the United States to emulate this support for innovative water management policies?

As our discussions at Technion illustrated, the support for such innovative management policies begins with knowledge transfer to stakeholders. For example, the Israeli Ministry of Agriculture hosts annual meetings that farmers, academics, and decision makers attend with the goal of sharing their respective water experiences and to work toward more efficient water practices. A core aspect of that effective communication is creating practical, actionable results rooted in technical research. During our discussion at Technion, we repeatedly heard an emphasis on interdisciplinary research, bringing together economists, engineers, hydrologists, and politicians to guide those actionable results for water management. Technion is one of many universities that are part of the Middle East North Africa (MENA) Water Centers for Excellence project, sponsored by USAID. This platform provides the foundation for collaboration between researchers throughout the MENA region including in Israel, the Palestinian Authority, and Jordan.

The concept of a “water research network” is lacking in the United States, as is the connection between researchers and decision-makers at the local, state, and national levels. In Israel, this model of collaboration has resulted in meticulous monitoring of water resources to inform water management policies and the subsequent support from all stakeholders. If we could shift our water management paradigm in the United States to effectively link researchers, policy-makers, and local stakeholders with open lines of communication, the outcome could be groundbreaking.

Our meeting at the GWRI at the Technion left us with many ideas for potential collaboration between our research center at UC Irvine and the Technion. On a technical level, we discussed a wide variety of potential research topics, ranging from the development of a 3D groundwater model; the evaluation of the linkages between water and soil management at a global scale; the use of enviromatics to better manage and monitor regional water systems; and optimization of land-surface and water management models to better reflect the reality of water demand and supply. On a broader level, our meeting provided a glimpse at new strategies and tools that we, in California, can use to more effectively manage water resources, link stakeholders, communicate knowledge, and develop policies to sustainably manage our resources.


This Israel-California knowledge transfer model is an exciting venture, and we hope that over the duration of our trip we will find more ideas, collaboration opportunities, and links with civil society, academic, and governmental agencies. From domestic water use strategies to effective agricultural irrigation and high-tech water system modeling to the development of innovative distribution systems, the possibilities for international learning are endless. In the next few posts, you’ll hear about our conversations with key civil society leaders, such as Friends of the Earth Middle East, and regional water managers in Israel, Palestine, and Jordan as well as our insights to the region’s water initiatives, such as the proposed Red Sea-Dead Sea conduit. With this new cross-regional network as a foundation, our water future is looking brighter.

Yes, it kinda does remind me of the parallels of water politics and power.
Similar to the theft of Owens Lake by the likes of William Mulholland to supply his purchases of L.A. land area, the israelis need to find a source of water.
Particularly after they got run in frantic retreat, from their attempt to take the Litani river and Hezbollah's militias stomping them into full, panic into their own mine fields in their little '06 war against Lebanon...
So much to have in common ... ha ha gotta have water for that Rothschild rat state.

Its pretty funny that tiny little Israel is teaching Americans about saving water and preserving precious resources.

Maybe the crucial difference is that America was always a land of plenty- we never had to save or preserve, here- while Israel was a land of want- they have few natural resources other than the tenacity and resourcefulness of their people.

They learned to make do.

They steal 80 % of Palestine's water, forbid them to dig any wells in their own territory, then sell the water back to them at a greatly inflated price.

Most Palestinians drink water not fit for human consumption, some have no running at at all, while the 'settlements' waste it on fountains and pools, sometimes intentionally allowing their raw sewage to flow onto and contaminate the occupied territories.


Nothing about what they've actually done to the jordan 'river', either. (they steal so much water from it, it becomes little more than a dried up creek, leaving nothing for those downstream)

- and nothing about global warming induced drought, and how things are about to get much worse.

Look at what they allow into the water they have already....

" but the other three were killed afterwards by infections caused by exposure to the polluted river water."
Maccabiah bridge collapse
Date: July 14, 1997
Place: Yarkon River, Tel Aviv, Israel
Cause: Shoddy construction
Result: 4 Australian athletes killed,
60 injured

The Maccabiah bridge collapse was the catastrophic failure of a pedestrian bridge over the Yarkon River in Tel Aviv, Israel on July 14, 1997. The collapse of the temporary wooden structure killed four and injured 60 Australian athletes who were visiting Israel to participate in the Maccabiah Games. One of the four athletes died during the collapse, but the other three were killed afterwards by infections caused by exposure to the polluted river water.[1]

"- and nothing about global warming induced drought" ...maybe because this isn't the stupid thread you started with yourself about *it*
Such a back-handed piece of fudgewit sloganeering to push the BS you are required to perform....
We all know the occupied territories suffer from the hatred the typical israeli has for the trapped populations within its never defined border. Sewage and waste water is what they are given as their treatment facilities are shot out by their occupiers.

um, NO, it isn't ^

The article is about how Israel's experience in reclaiming water can benefit Californians, who also have to deal with drought. It was from national geographic. it has nothing to do with the Palestinians. its about preserving resources, and learning from each other across national boundaries.

Jeez.. Get a life.

This isn't a west bank settlement. This is a private home in Ramallah., owned by a Palestinian. Check out the reflecting pools. What were you saying about Israel again?

This isn't a west bank settlement. This is a brand new Movenpick hotel in Ramallah, in the West bank. Check out the swimming pools. What were you saying about Israel again?

a ring of reservoirs just outside Gaza, with well irrigated fields and large numbers of swimming pools.

it shows Gaza is overcrowded, while just outside there are widely scattered 'settlements' with expansive fields - plenty of room

well built highways, while in Gaza dirt and gravel roads

any discussion of israHELL must always include the truth of what they're doing to the Palestinians, and Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt. and even Turkey for that matter.

IsraHELL owes it's 'success' entirely to US - the American taxpayers. The atrocities they commit on all their neighbors, stealing natural resources, and sowing conflict, is all in our name, since we fund it.

It's up to US to cut foreign aid, cut off the 'loans', force AIPAC to register as a foreign agent, and make israHELL stand on their own two feet, insted of sucking America, and their neighbors dry, then running hopium whitewashing pieces like this, as part of their hasbara operation.

it all begins with education - of letting US taxpayers know what they're really doing.

and a total boycott of everything israHELL



news is what people want to keep secret

everything else is publicity

Were you expecting 5 star hotels in Gaza, with luxurious swimming pools? This is the Al Mashtal resort in Gaza. Its one of many luxury accomodations on the Beach in Gaza

A luxury hotel was just completed in Gaza. Complete with swimming pool. Its the Al-mashtal, and its lovely. Americans aren't supposed to know, because , well, you need to believe that Gaza is poor and oppressed, even if the Gazan's live better and longer than , oh, lets say the Turks.

And you know what? Its not the only luxury resort in gaza

If the Al-mashtal resort in gaza is too modern for your taste, you can visit the Almat'haf Hotel & Cultural House. Its more traditional, and I'm sure you'll love relaxing by their koi pond.


This is gaza. Check out their facebook page. Almat'haf Hotel & Cultural House https://www.facebook.com/mathaf.hotel/photos_stream

amazing brass plated Bullflop when the entire land area of of Gaza is inside a blockade ( right after an event called Operation Cast Lead" on going for over five years where even food calories are rationed ) while the IDF uses it as a target practice, free fire zone....
what incredible assholes.
ps
ya gotta love the quotation marks around the proper name Palestine when it;s israel which is a paper mask, a Rothschild expendable, pawn.
Apparently filled with indoctrinated paranoids and self deluded racists.
Who actually believes that anyone is still falling for the twisted inside out zionist version of reality.

- to see what the conditions are, on average, to see how the bulk of the Palestinians live.

They don't live in luxury resorts, since most of them live on $ 3. or less per day, as the above report states :

http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/2013/03/boycott_israel_-_did_you_know__boycott_israeli_apartheid.mp3

it also mentions how concrete, glass, and other building materials are blocked, after the 20,000 buildings and homes were destroyed by israHELL, again, by sucking our tax dollars.

the few luxury resorts weren't targeted.

hospitals and schools were, including UN assigned 'safe areas', and including the media.

and as Sheepdog above just pointed out, Gaza is a prison - no one is allowed in or out. A much more revealing view is take a look at the *parking lots* of those resorts, to see how occupied they are. Also notice the lack of traffic on those huge 'jews only' highways all over the occupied territories (in reality all of so-called israHELL is actually occupied territory)

What does any of this have to do with more efficient use of water?

but a self-created exploitive and bloody problem


israHELL has nothing to teach us




as long as you fight mother nature, in the occupied territories, or california, you will lose

if you burn fossil fuel or use nuclear to desalinate water, your energy use is contributing to the very drought you're fighting




attempting to make the desert bloom is a fool's errand


and the only reason desalination is necessary in the first place is because israHELL has sucked down the water table so much already, salt is invading it.

AND because they've treated their neighbors so badly - Turkey for example - they refuse to share their water with them.



so it's a problem *they entirely created themselves*



they can steal water from all their neighbors and perhaps - with our tax dollars - get by with it

but stealing water from mother nature has consequences, salt from surrounding bodies of saltwater will invade

when the technology being exploited, is powered by renewable energy, THEN, it has something to offer.

otherwise -

NATURE ALWAYS BATS LAST

Technologies are available to alter the weather patterns and induce drought. Like an extortion racket to push various political economic and command and control systems.
The only thing israel could ever teach us is something we already know. Theft of resources and land by force and genocide.

but honest inventors do ^

...who ride the ecology movement to jabber about "greenhouse gasses" as a red herring to distract from real environmental exploitation like water theft and weather modification by HAARP and chemtrail use under Operation Cloverleaf to produce drought in specific areas while poisoning the air and ground with nano aluminum partials.
It's a war against the people no matter where you look.

that's right exxon pays me

to shill for climate change


PS. got any samples of those nano aluminum particles ?

should be easy, since they're dusting them all over the globe - that amounts to thousands of tons..

just one tiny little sample ?

pretty please

with nano particles on top

hex must realize that sarcasm fails in the face of curiosity.
yet another inferred insult when the reader need only do a small amount of independent research into HAARP, weather warfare and or Operation Cloverleaf and not some made up myth about CO2 to usher upon us a carbon tax.
Now does hex fell it necessary to use idiotic graphics ( talking down again to the serious reader, believing it needs to use comic books and cartoons to convince you... ) excessive spacing ( to cover over the previous comment ) or tainted graphs?
one wonders.

thousands of scientists in peer reviewed methodology, data and measurements = 'made up myth'

a few crackpots making shit up as they go, for a quick buck, with exxon's blessing = 'independent research'



all graphics are idiotic (except the cherry picked ones from fossil fuel funded think tanks I post)





'excessive spacing (to cover over the previous comment)'


oh so THATS what it does. not to make it easier to read...



spaces in other people's posts are an ASSULT on the posts above and below (and watch those cracks when you're walking)




up is down, black is white, and the formatting police will persecute



xxx love and kisses, exxon xxx

of course, hex knows I wont mail or hand deliver any samples ... but others have.
Look up the terms
Operation Cloverleaf
Weather war
HAARP
something 'hex' doesn't want you to do. While it wanks about "greenhouse gasses", 'climate change' and curious localized drought.

'samples ... but others have'

the crackpots were specifically challenged years ago to ever come up with a sample

none have


- and notice the lack of links to those 'samples others have'

now it's so very scary.
how much do you think will be made from future speculation?
when an agency can control the weather?
let the reader do their own digging.
weather control is a sure money maker on so many levels.

how much do you think will be made from future book sales?

fossil fuels are sure money maker on so many levels.

again the use of cartoon assistance to the retarded target of the commentary.
is somebody selling a book? are you going off again into the wild blue yonder? One may wonder at times.
[ note to readership: please do not buy any book this twit may mention although it hasn't really mentioned anything ]
So many catastrophes ready to go and this incredible twit is barfing out its mantra of greenhouse gas wha wha.
And israel is a very poor example of ecological shepherding the land.
Unlike the Palestinians who lived in harmony there for centuries..

of ecological shepherding the land.


care to enlighten us on any example of GOOD 'shepherding' the land ?


..I've already posted about Germany, just above.


- other than dispensing insults, conspiracy crap and vague hints, while completely denying climate change - as always - in true teabagger style, you've yet to even drop a link to back up anything you've said.


Come to think of it, I've yet to ever see you say a single ill word about fossil fuels or nuclear at all.


Exxon couldn't ask for a better spokesman, if they hired you.

don't take anyone's word. Do your own digging.
Operation Cloverleaf + HAARP
see who is blowing smoke up your ass.

a small group of crackpots echo chambering eachother, and the only thing they have in common, is reliance on fossil fuel funded think tanks and front groups, to support their total denial of global warming.

And when its pointed out that their sources are fossil fuel funded think tanks, they simply ignore the exposure, wait a few days, then post the lies again.

-and again, and again, and again

There is no science behind it.

They in fact, REJECT science, and scientists, and use made up as they go, pseudo-science, mixed with their own paranoia based ignorance of science, to support themselves.

This denial, and magical thinking, is emotionally comforting, since it celebrates business-as-usual, and requires no change in fossil fuel consumption.

It relieves the believer of any and all responsibility for fossil fuel use, by claiming fossil fuels are completely harmless and have absolutely no environmental impact.

This means, you'll never hear a whisper about solar or wind energy, and never a complaint about fossil fuel from these people.

- and as with the fossil fuel companies, nothing matters to them except money - the situation is ALWAYS framed as ONLY a question of money, and nothing else.

Pollution, health effects, radiation - none of these matter at all. and of course the environment. doesn't matter either..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pseudoscience

.....both the UN's International Panel on Climate Change and the UK's "Metro Office" have stated that there has been no measurable "global warming" for about 17 yrs now...which none of the "scientists" predicted with their little rigged closed source code computer models in spite of the continuing rise in human generated carbon dioxide.....guess their "science" isn't based on a falsifiable hypothesis after all.....sooo,when it gets to be warm enough to raise cattle in Greenland like the Vikings did 1000 yrs ago,let me know...then I'll start worrying about this little con job that made anAL GOREtentive so rich

Railroad engineer Pachauri

Monckton

wattsupwiththat


Anthony Watts - SourceWatch

a non-scientist, paid AGW denier who runs the website wattsupwiththat

http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Anthony_Watts


Anthony Watts | DeSmogBlog

http://www.desmogblog.com/anthony-watts

I grant you that :Pachauri is a railroad engineer and not schooled in the earth sciences....but he and his IPCC are the ones who have been most heavily invested intellectually in this entire "global warming" scam ...and he only speaks for the entire panel...so for the panel to reverse itself like this either means nothing or everything...you can't have it both ways....Viscount Monckton has nothing to do with the UK "Metro Office" and you know it....that outfit is the mouthpiece for Phil Jones and his pals at the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia...the ones who tried vainly to "hide the decline"...I've met and spoken with Lord Monckton...and though not a climate "scientist" like the above mentioned fraudsters of the CRU,he is far better schooled on what is actually happening in the world of real time climate data....if nothing else,his well informed and healthy skepticism...not "denial....puts the lie to the lie by anAL GOREtentive that "the debate is over"...given that climate science as a discipline is still in its infancy,the debate is just beginning...and there is no hurry at all in determining the truth

preparation H for that

-and hand it to lord mockton when you're done with it

...suggest it to anAL GOREtentive..."the father of midnight basketball"..instead...it's his problem after all..and you seem to be more sympatico with him than I ever could be..Christopher Monckton isn't trying to get stinko rich trying to peddle this scam..so he doesn't need it...let me know when anAL GOREtentive invites you to party with him a one of his 3 or 4 mansions

And while 'hex' goes off into its anal phase the reader can see that not only does water flow downhill but so does the crap for its brain.
onto the screen you are now reading!
Be responsible and do some individual digging on the subject of economic weather war, HAARP and Operation Cloverleaf..
Let the two spooks have another foodfight.
Water, like food, is a weapon of control and maybe that miserable racist rat state of israel in occupied Palestine is here to, as I stated in my first comment, to bring expertise in theft.

call his father, and complain.

nevermind -

been there, done that, got the convict rap sheet

Methane is coming up all over the globe now, and here is the effect ^

...it wasn't his father...it was his uncle..Whit LaFon..who at the time was just about the largest cocaine distributor in Tennessee....thanks for the "tipping point" map...I'll remember it when the surface temperature doesn't go through the roof like you imagine it will....your hysterical micturation is good for comic relief if nothing else....one of these days it might even be warm enough to grow wine grapes in England like they did during the Midieval Warm Period

http://arctic-news.blogspot.de/2012/09/uk-met-office-keeps-downplaying-significance-of-events-in-the-arctic.html

The Met office, as well as majority of other deniers, is not honestly mistaken about ice loss - they know what's what, but intentionally lie about it, for a good reason: they are quite sure that we are already beyond a point of no-return in terms of run-away, catastrophic global warming. They are also sure that mankind can not prevent it - not by geo-engineering, nor by any other actions. Thus, they simply try to prevent the panic, so to say. To keep last years of relatively calm existance to be that way - relatively calm.


The UK MET is part of Department of Business, Innovation and Skills now.
It originally was formed to give weather for shipping and battle in 1800s,
but now, as then it isn't likely into climate predictions that would harm harmony.

how nice. Another label...
is a pogrom next?
so scared the world is gonna end. do da....
this has occurred [ all of your 'extreme graphs ] in far more extreme periods of the past.
It's the 67 million year cycle that leaves extinction layers. Like the one 65 million years ago. We're pretty near the top of the probability curve right now and for a few more million years...so yep, I'm concerned.
But not of the methane coming from someone's bung hole.

Permian extinction event

the links I posted address that very issue - and this has never happened before in the fossil record.

yes there have been extinction events in the past, but none have ever started THIS QUICKLY

also the third link :

http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/p/global-extinction-within-one-human.html

specifically talks about HAARP :

http://arctic-news.blogspot.cz/p/decomposing-atmospheric-methane.html

- guess you didn't notice that because you were too busy 'digging'


sidenote: teabaggers don't dig for science and data - they avoid it.

...we just don't try to use it for propaganda purposes in trying to advance a Luddite political agenda...personally,I can't help but wonder why all the methane that escaped during the Roman Climate Optimum and the Midieval Warming periods didn't cause a mass extinction...and during both those periods the average global temperature was warmer than it is now...I guess they didn't have someone like hex around to warn then it was coming...so they never considered it

you'd know all about that since anything you've ever copied & pasted was directly from a fossil fuel funded think tank and/or denialists with vested interests in fossil fuel profits, or clowns like mockton, who was just kicked out of a conference for making an ass out of himself.


I just linked to field scientists doing actual live real-time research, in east Siberia.

the latest available data..


- sure beats recycled long discredited talking points from fossil fuel think tanks

....being trash talked by you doesn't "discredit" anyone...what you discredit is yourself when you assume everyone who has a healthy skepticism (not 'denial') about AGW just HAS to be on the payroll of some oil company or right wing think tank...most of us don't have anything to do with either....now as to that mass extinction that took place during the Roman Climate Optimum because of all the methane that was released....how did mankind manage to reestablish himself after such a debilitating catastrophe,hex?...they never told us about that in school..so I would appreciate it if you would explain it to those of us who are skeptical about your hysterical rantings now

it's not about me.

..or you for that matter


- it's about field scientists doing actual live real-time research

I'M not saying this - I'm only linking to the scientists who are.


attacking the messenger is one of the tactics the fossil fuel think tanks deploy

- they shy away from any and all real science, real research, real data.

and attack those who do

the product they're selling, is FUD

I'm not linking to FUD, I'm linking to actual science, measurements and data.

..they do the field work and compose the graphs and charts...but you're the one who is continually wetting his panties over them and whining about how we are all doomed..it's the spin you put on everything that makes you come across as some kind of clown,hex...nobody is buying your bullshit...there isn't going to be a carbon tax...there isn't going to be a massive elimination of oil or gas as fuel sources...the alleged benefits simply aren't worth the economic dislocation and upheaval it would cause...and I'm not talking about the "oil companies"...which are publicly owned in the US,by the way...I'm talking about the living standards of everyone...and President Barokeydoke has just about cornered the market with his apocalyptic freakout about the 'sequester'...most people are just tuning out that kind of alarmist bullshit now...including yours

are you sure you want to go there ;)


look lord king pink, I don't have time to spar with you over your non-facts, non-links and non-issues

unlike you, I have things to do. one of which is production, another is the new digital radio I'm setting up (in stereo which wasn't possible for free until now)
and other important activities, which includes keeping up on the latest research from scientists doing their thing in their part of the world.

maybe you and bill should get together - take the sock off one hand and put it on the other.

...you have to save the world from the oil companies..and you have to save us from ourselves....and since we aren't intelligent enough to recognize your superiority in such matters ,you're going to have to do it "by any means necessary"....because it's for our own good,isn't it hex? LMAO

"save the world from the oil companies"
you can't hang a corporation but you sure can prosecute their owners and officers to make them serve time and/or hang.
Revolution, not civil war.

....their owners are the individual stockholders...and that is literally millions of people...not just the corporate officers...you're a bloodthirsty little shit,aren't you?

when you find two sock puppets holding a conversation.

-but as far as 'me saving so and so from such and such'

that's not what I said..

I said 'death is beautiful, isn't it ?'

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2013/03/258798_comment.php

"their owners are the individual stockholders."
okay, only one lash per share...

I'm not mean.

Social and Environmental Entrepreneurs See Inc / Grants / Ford Foundation


you know I refuse to air programming that's funded by the ford foundation.

I make an occasional exception for selected clips of democracy now, but heavily edited



ford foundation radio since 2000

big deal, I've been _on the air_ here since 1998

but then IMC doesn't 'do' real radio, they're just establishment media wearing blackface

wouldn't want to upset those foundation grants. they pay for left gatekeeping and that's what they get

offer of proof?
Come one, hex, show us a clip of some local paper even mentioning your 'site'.
Please do not try to blow smoke up the reader's ass with more self generated graphics to try and appear 'real'.

and they ignore me

I was on TV in 2001 (they attempted to interview me but I refused, told a buddy to tell them I only deal with independent media) so they filmed the outside, the antennas and a few seconds of a song I was playing on a car radio with the door open. I taped that, however I'm not sure which tape it is (out of hundreds ) and have no way to transfer it to digital.

I don't need to prove anything to the likes of you.

During the Seattle protests I was part of the network of bitcasters airing live reporting on the street - I was connected to other bitcasters, and others were connected to me, plus was on the IRC channel with them. You see how all these bitcasters call themselves 'radio stations', and back then many did both - bitcasting and broadcasting.

But when the FCC discovers their exact location VIA THE INTERNET they harass them. Posting 'proof' is exactly the stuff of FCC wet dreams. And you can't pick up the signals anyway, so it does no good at all to inform you.

The third station is now fully digital, carries two services - stereo high quality audio (HE-AAC) and a lower quality talk channel which continually rotates the community affairs and other talk . It also presents a 'web service' that creates a virtual website. I just have it repeat a simple text file :

'use VLC .86 to play.txt' which contains these instructions :

Video Lan Client works well, V .86 and up.

.86's buffering works especially well..

With UDP streaming its not possible to send headers/media type.

the 'stream.aac' instructs VLC to look for a MPEG 4 ADTS raw stream.

The UMS://127.0.0.1:1579/video stream may be loopbacked to an unreal media server
then can be played on VLC or WMP or other players as mms://127.0.0.1:5119/video

The QAM decoder only deals with ums://, so unreal media servers must proceed and proxy after
QAM in order to allow other encoders or protocols. The UDP stream starts as HTTP ICY from
a WINAMP edcast encoder. Then ffmpeg strips it of it's headers and spits it out as raw UDP -

ffmpeg -i http://192.168.5.135:8000/muzak.aac -strict 5 -f adts -acodec copy udp://192.168.5.132:1236

I haven't figured out a way to multiplex anything via UDP so far.


during rain I have Wget grab the local RADAR thumbnail every 5 minutes :

cd C:PROGRA~1J-QAMweb
del XXX_Thumb.gif
cd..
wget.exe -e "http_proxy=http://192.168.5.122:9000"; http://radar.weather.gov/Thumbs/XXX_Thumb.gif
copy XXX_Thumb.gif C:PROGRA~1J-QAMweb
del XXX_Thumb.gif
sleep 300

(this repeats thousands of times in a .BAT file)

whatever is dropped in the web folder is automaticly updated and sent out using any spare packets left over after sending the 2 audio streams.

So the listeners get an updated RADAR picture along with the 2 streams.

This is the ONLY DIGITAL RADIO station in town - none of the shit channel or other radio group stations have IBOC.

Another first for Rock FM

"I don't need to prove anything to the likes of you. "
You sure don't 'cause you're a liar and I already know it.
I thought the other readers would like to see ...

yup I'm a liar :)

well then, that's all the 'proof' I need....ha ha

the effort it takes to set all that up far surpasses the effort it took to feed it to the transmitter

but nevermind - I'm a liar


and a quick google search will point you right to SPECIFIC INFORMATION to back it up


but if me being a useless liar is comforting to you (a useless liar) so be it..

This piece of warm fluff about water shepherding is nice and fuzzy alright [ which is a total lie, considering the untreated waste the corporations dump into the rivers as well as their greed which has ruined the aquifer with salt incursion ] but we need to remember the standard operation of the state of israel for water management; which is to steal it from their neighbors.

care to enlighten us on any example of GOOD 'shepherding' the land ?

mr. 'digging for independent research'

I did type *water* but as for shepherding the land, my yard is very nice with all the grapes and fruit and nut trees and ponds I put in. The chickens are good too.
But unlike israel, I bought the land and did my own work without stealing anything. I also use all my grey-water for the gardens.

an example of people, a country, a culture.

A single person has very little impact - especially when that person is paranoid as hell, and hides everything, doesn't reach out to people, doesn't go to or produce community affairs, doesn't set a public example, doesn't produce a newsletter, doesn't organise people, doesn't broadcast or even bitcast or podcast.

An isolated person, an atomized person, makes no difference and has no impact, and thus is no example, doesn't have anything to teach or contribute.

Thats why I posted Germany as an example - this is a whole country of people getting together and doing something positive for the environment.

They actually pay people to use surplus electricity, without creating pollution or harming people's health.

While here they charge 15 cents a KWH burning filthy dirty coal, and have a scam going where they charge 45 cents per KWH from 2 to 7 PM

So this provides no example - it only represents a terrible case of exploitation. Even if you generate electricity and feed it back into the grid, the spy meters here are set to CHARGE YOU for doing so (they add to your account with power flowing in either direction)

Any 3 of the places you are living in (FL, NM, CA) have a severe problem with water - none are substainable and as the drought gets worse the problem of where to get the water does too.

So even your claimed garden is using either FOSSIL water, depleting the water table, or depending on water imported from other watersheds, all of which are rapidly depleting due to drought, thats no GOOD example.

Here it's not so bad, we have a fairly good supply in an area that's forrested with a river and large lake, I don't expect the water situation to become acute anytime soon, but there you're facing near-term water shortages. The same thing that makes israHELL a bad example for water, makes you a bad example. IsraHELL has several other aspects as well, but as far as water goes you're no better.

Where on Earth did you say I was living again? It's hard to keep track with only imaginary pirate radio stations ...
I just don't know where you seem to pull all this 'information' about me, except out yer ass.
I'm not even here now, ha ha.
as to it being about me, not my problem if you follow me around like a pet twit, making all kinds of shit up about me that only proves what a great flaming twit you really are. And as an individual, one must set an example, so a yard is a good start.
But isn't this about the rat state of israel stealing water?
And making it all fuzzy?

with only 1 comment, and no one else replies..

on the rare occasion someone does reply (months even years go by when I don't even come here at all) and tries to hold a discussion, all they get is shit


you don't see me making comments on story after story that everyone ignores

thats your gig



I have community affairs to do, to get ready by sunday morning

what to choose :

bill maher on The Wealth Gap in America and the World 12-03-.mp4
CEPR Seminar 1_ The Basics of Good Economics - Framing the I.mp4
Craig Murray _ American Dream Debate _ Oxford Union.mp4
John le Carre Night Manager Interview part 1.mp4

to add to :

Weekly Fukushima update 36.wv

which contains

Senate Banking Committee Hearing - Bank Money Laundering.wv


and add these : (me saying or text-to-speech)

Pentagon, says the Associated Press, spends $4.7 billion on public relations: that is, winning the hearts and minds not of recalcitrant Afghan tribesmen but of Americans. This is known as “information dominance” and PR people are “information warriors”.

Colonial campaigns are really “wars of perception”


“Narrative” is the accredited word because it is post-modern and bereft of context and truth. The narrative of Iraq is that the war is won, and the narrative of Afghanistan is that it is a “good war”. That neither is true is beside the point. They promote a “grand narrative” of a constant threat and the need for permanent war.



The psychopathic is applauded across popular, corporate culture.


Directors deny and dignify the violence of invasion as “apolitical”. And yet behind the cartoon facade is serious purpose. The US is engaged militarily in 75 countries. There are some 900 US military bases across the world, many at the gateways to the sources of fossil fuels.



“Lies, damned lies, and newspaper reporting"



What we need urgently is a “fifth estate” that challenges the autocracy of the corporate media, that includes and gives voice to the public, that mounts an invasion of institutions — TV, newspapers, media colleges






have fun with your garden

So many lies, so little time to refute them. It keeps me busy.
That and figuring out how to grow all my food. I collect water [ a crime in some places ] and use it sparingly. It's all in engineering for needs.

So many lies, so little time to refute them. It keeps me busy.
That and figuring out how to grow all my food. I collect water [ a crime in some places ] and use it sparingly. It's all in engineering for needs.

you need facts and links

not 'let the dear gentle readers do their own digging because I can't be bothered'



see

the reason why I have the facts & links is because I'm already producing, so posting them here or mainly on the onion forum is very little extra effort.


what you're doing is unsupported OPINION, and attention trolling.