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Zionism Is America’s Existential Threat:

by Total Toto Monday, Apr. 27, 2009 at 7:52 PM

We The People of the United States need a new “Declaration of Independence from Religious Oppression” in all its forms and insinuations. Zionism is based on the “delusion” that some “questionable” psychological character who once posed mythically as a high-god deity “gave,” or ordained, the Israel tribal lineage of people to the territory in Canaan at a particular historical point. We are supposed to be “past” the turbulent and insane ages of divine right for kings and it is equally time to recognize that we are also concomitantly past a time for divine right for nations.

Zionism Is America’s Existential Threat:

By Total Toto

“Freedom means the supremacy of human rights everywhere.” Franklin Roosevelt

Despite what modicum threat Iran may actually be to Israel, such as its support of groups like Hezbollah, thee threat right-wing Israelis, right-wing Jewish-Americans, and right-wing Christians pose to the greater We the People of the United States, and our liberties, continues to be a very real concern. It was no small matter that Saddam Hussein supported the Palestinian cause. Does Israelis and American Jews really expect the United States to be against every and all who support the Palestinians?

Face it: Zionism is based on the “delusion” that some “questionable” psychological character who once posed mythically as a high-god deity “gave,” or ordained, the Israel tribal lineage of people to the territory in Canaan at a particular historical point. Yet such an idea is dishonest and therefore it is dishonorable. It is an idea the rest of the modern world should “not” respect.

Or explain how the Old Testament’s Deuteronomy 7:1-2 below advances “Divine” justice:

“When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land, and shall cast out many nations before thee, the Hittite, and the Girgashite, and the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Perizzite and the Hivite, and the Jebusite, seven nations greater and mightier than thou, and when the Lord they God shall deliver them up before thee, and thou shalt smite them, then thou shalt utterly destroy them.”

And according to the International Bible Society Bible it goes on to say:

“Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy. Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, for they will turn your sons away from following me to serve other gods, and the Lord’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you.”

What explanation, in a modern world of psychology, sociology, anthropology, biology, history, sociobiology, political theory, etc., can there be that such dictates or arguments is a one that ought be respected—because this was nothing but war propaganda meant to deceive the naïve and the lawless into stealing land that did not originally belong to them. This is clearly an argument for plunder and pillage against the inhabitants of Canaan about 3000 years ago. It is emphatically NOT an order from what one would assume to be a “moral” high-god.

This Biblical passages reveal a God of terrorism:

“I will send My terror before thee,” vowed Yahweh. “I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries…” Exodus 23:22

There are many such examples. So how is it that so many millions of people could have through history been, and still are to this day, so deluded for some many centuries that they cannot recognize the psychological “authoritarianism” they were and still are being brainwashed?

World Jewry has no legitimate right to “any” land anywhere based on any form of religious prophesy—nor do any other people anywhere have some “divine right” to property. And this reality coincides with our American “purported” values and our very understood and appreciated principle of a separation of church and state.

We are supposed to be “past” the turbulent and insane ages of divine right for kings and it is equally time to recognize that we are also concomitantly past a time for divine right for nations. If Israelis want to continue down this path of stealing land and ordaining it exclusively to themselves then let them go in on their own without support from the people of the United States—a country founded on the ideal of equality—irrespective of race, ethnicity, or religion—in which our history is and was not perfect but we continue to strive toward such ends and Israelis and many Abrahamic religious peoples seem not to.

Why should we violate our national values for a people who are seem stuck in the pride of their identity—no matter how counter-productive they may be to themselves and the rest of the world? It is more than a curiosity that modern day Jews often tend to think of themselves as “so” cosmopolitan and learned, having studied a wide history and ideas from some many cultured they have interacted (while posing almost superciliously as if they have never stood on the shoulders of other sources), and yet they continue to support retrograde forms of authority in their apparent schizophrenic mindsets. Perhaps it is time American psychiatrists and psychologists have their heads examined?

One must have a low sense of self-esteem or a history of irrationality to presume in this modern age of understood freedoms and civil liberties to expect us Americans to honor and worship a god who is presented in the Judaic Bible to have said:

“How long will this people despise me?” God asked Moses, “and how long will they not believe in Me, for all the signs which I have wrought among them?” Numbers 14:11 … and “I will smite them with the pestilence, and destroy them,” Yahweh raged to Moses, “and make of thee a nation greater and mightier than they.” Numbers 14:12

This sounds more like a petulant, whiny bully than it does any kind of “great” god? Just maybe, we ought ask if some “psyches” just are not that lovable? Because he does not feel loved he plots revenge? Sounds so human. There are plenty of bully/babies that may be feared but they are not universally loved, liked or wanted.

Perhaps it is time Dorothy’s dog Toto to use his cynical teeth to pull the curtain away from the hiding Wizard of Oz, who may then loose much of his high-handed grandiosity, when found out to be little more than a fraud?

This Mosaic God bent on “greatness” seems more the low-bum, so much so that he resorts to afflicting “his” own people with a plague of “fiery serpents” and “they bit the people, and much people of Israel died.” Numbers 21: 5-6

You might as well expect educated Americans to believe that Pol Pot and Idi Amin were some kind of spiritual hero?

Face it: Right-wing Israel, AIPAC, and especially the Neocons were, and still are, a major force, granted along with other economical and investor forces, in promoting that the people of the United States “illegally” go to war with Iraq. They are partly responsible for this financial crisis that we face. Furthermore they continue to advocate indeterminate presence in Iraq, more involvement with Afghanistan and Pakistan and war with Iran.

But why should the national security of the United States, whose national values are “not” based on an arbitrary and tyrant of a God (didn’t historical Europe suffer enough of that), be sacrificed to this atavistic idea of supporting people who not only want to take Palestinian land, but also want to “push the Palestinians into the sea” under the direct orders of not making a sincere treaty, not intermarrying and not having any mercy—but to utterly destroy?

Right-wing Israel and right-wing Jewish Americans, including right-wing mainstream media (the real Zionist bias), doesn’t even have the decency to share this land and its resources on any kind of an equality basis. Furthermore they have continued to manipulate one U.S. presidential administration after another. Their program over the decades has been to take, take, take, while they waywardly lie to the gullible and thickheaded peoples of the United States.

Furthermore they have pretty much completely and deliberately destroyed any reasonable establishment of a two state solution, defying all world sentiments, while they talk their delaying tactics to our American face. Meanwhile dim-bulb American White Houses and congressional legislators have acted, and continue to act, like their eternal patsies letting our house be more or less broken.

Furthermore Israel is the country that introduced nuclear weapons into the Near East, while they mislead the Kennedy administration, hiding their nuclear program (like how they accuse Iran of what they did), and have persisted in their double talk capacity to insinuate reality is just what words can ambiguate (as if the weapons don’t exist if they are not acknowledged?).

Do you trust nuclear weapons in a nation of people who delusionally believe to this 21st century day that God ordered their ancestors to kill off inhabitants in Canaan millennium ago because they worshipped other Gods? Do you trust these people to exercise sanity or the Greek values of justice, prudence, temperance, and courage? And yet we are suppose to attack Iran on Israel’s hearsay, or allow Israel to use our supplied weapons to attack whoever they want because of their belligerent temperaments?

It seems that Barack Obama is their latest dupe. He may be smart on some fronts but he seems the intelligence bumpkin on diplomatic fronts in the Middle East—especially his kowtowing to Israeli firsters and his appointed people to the State Department who are more answerable to AIPAC special interests. How much longer is the American government going to humiliate itself by giving away our country—such as letting them steal our secrets and delivering them elsewhere, etc., because our people and media have no courage to stand up for real freedom and justice or real national security?

The Old Testament has a fair deal of plagiarism. Noah’s flood story is such an example from as a rehash of the Flood Tablets found by European archeologists that helped establish the Akkadian and Sumerian literature of Epic of Gilgamesh formulated this “mad” god idea in which the God Enlil is incensed at humanity and desires to destroy humans with a vast flood. There are several examples of that kind of commonality from earlier Middle Eastern religious ideas making their way to Judaic religion—but the point here is that the God of Israel and any covenant thereof is not worthy of Divine Right status from American or democratic countries—even if there are also a lot of worthy messages of a spiritual nature within the Old and New Testament (which there arguably are) that do deserve respect.

It is time for a reality check. Are we suppose to continue to support warfare and oppression of Palestinians based on some scribblings and revisionism of high priests and clerics—because of so called tradition? Our nation is already on the financial brink. Now we should support more warfare against “Israel’s” enemies because they can’t get along with their neighbors because they refuse to deal with “their” existential reality—and they would rather inspire a nuclear conflagration than admit they are wrongheaded?

Democracy demands real information to real people for real government by people; whereas. the Neo-Con-Artist or Leo Straussian view supports fooling the masses with lies. And to what and whose ends does their influence in our country help? Leo Strauss is a good example of someone who with his elitist views says it is OK for the mainstream media and government to lie to the American people.

In what direction is the United States of America going with these people still in influential power—back to the Eastern and Roman glorification of monarchy and despots—or a renewed belief in the values our founders shared based on freedom and liberty for all people?

How much does it really matter if Iran’s President Ahmandinejad called Israel a “cruel and repressive racist regime” when their god of the Testament seems exactly that as quoted when it comes to war propaganda, that said it was OK to kill off the peoples living in Canaan?

Or why should the world be surprised if so many people and leaders in various states with the “same” historical mentality of Judeo-Christian oppression and delusion still can’t face reality?

The world can no longer afford more religious destruction. It is time for Israel to separate Church and State and let all live in “one” state of equality. It doesn’t now matter, in regards to history or modern Israel, about water over the dam. Being Jewish today is not some all-encompassing identity badge that automatically makes one’s life more meaningful because of a long and vicarious history. Nor does it automatically give one some badge of moral superiority—despite the persecution others suffered during historical times.

Furthermore criticizing Israel and Jew, as far as their attitudes, behaviors, or delusions is not invariably a result of anti-Semitism. What is anti-Semitic is the audacity of some “secular” right-wing Jews to dare to use the tragic of persecution and murder of Jews historically as a cover for their undercover deeds.

We The People of the United States need a new “Declaration of Independence from Religious Oppression” in all its forms and insinuations. We have a right and a duty to criticize psychological and spiritual oppression even as it attempts to prey on guilt, shame, history calamity or low self-esteem. Granted that some Muslims and Arabs are not saints but Israel and American Jews are not going to get a free pass here in the United States. Right-wing Israelis, right-wing Jews including those that “hog” the mainstream media, and “your” God are coming DOWN the mountain. So get over it.









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