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50 Things I've Learned About Israeli Propaganda, the U.S., and Zionism as White Supremacy

by AMERICAN Tuesday, Jul. 18, 2006 at 8:43 AM

In response to the Zionist malarky posted earlier.

1. Anti-semitism has been co-opted by Israel and Israeli's to deter any criticism of their genocidal policies toward the Palestinians.
2. Israeli's do not have a monopoly on the term "anti-semitism" since Arabs are semites too. Their both the children of Abraham.
3. Zionism injects white supremacy into the Israeli construction of self and culture to obscure point 2.
4. Israel was created by the British and other Western nations as a bulwark against the middle east and to protest Western interests in the region, such as oil.
5. Israeli Jews and Palestinians are the pawns in this game. Israeli Jews are injected with Zionist white supremacy, while Palestinians are victimized by it to the point where their resistance takes the form of terror.
6. Palestinian terror is a response to Israeli state terrorism, exercised by the IDF.
7. This conflict is not on a level playing field since Israel's weapons far outnumber the Palestinians defenses, but not their will.
8. Israel has been the only country in the middle east with Weapons of Mass Destruction, as Vanunu revealed with the price of his liberty.
9. The U.S. obscures this reality, because who do you think holds the receipt.
10. The U.S. gives more taxpayer money to Israel than many Americans would care to know.
11. AIPAC is the agent through which this blood money is laudered and sent to Tel Aviv to be used to commit genocide against the Palestinians.
12. The Israeli policy against Palestinians is genocide, just in case some forgot what the word meant.
13. Any resistance to Israeli genocide is constituted as "terrorism." Gee, by this token it would appear that Native American resistance to U.S. colonization is "terrorism."
14. Israeli genocide against Palestinians is terrorism.
15. Due to the efforts of the AIPAC and the co-optation of the language by the white supremacist character of Zionism, any critique of the state of Israel is misconstrued as anti-semitism.
16. And yet none of the Israeli attacks on Palestinian civilians, many who are Arab, Christians, and even Jewish, is never seen as anti-semitism.
17. Zionism has turned anti-semitism into a useless and meaningless term.
18. Zionists are being bamboozled by Americans right-wing Christians and other real anti-semites, since they only think with their pocketbooks and white supremacist notion of Israel, rather than their hearts.
19. Meanwhile, Jews in Israel and the U.S. get screwed by Zionism's deceit.
20. Zionists are deceived by Anglo American Christian white supremacists whose belief in the false prophecy of the rapture and endtimes is predicated on the demise of the Jewish people.
21. According to this false prophecy, Jews will have to convert to Christianity in order to complete revelation and purportedly bring Christs return.
22. Alot of right-wing Anglo Christians are the biggest anti-semites of them all, whose legacy includes the scotish right and the KKK.
23. But as aforementioned, Zionists can easily be bought off by anti-semites and Nazis. Witness how Arnold the Governator bought off the Simon Weisenthal center with a fat donation after it was revealed that his father is a Nazi.
24. While built with good intentions, the Simon Weisenthal Center is just a front for Zionism.
25. Antonio Villaraigosa has proved that he does follow the legacy of his role model, Tom Bradley, by sucking up to the Zionists at the SWC.
26. Has anybody ever noticed that the SWC perpetuates the myth that Jews have a monopoly on genocide? What about the Armenians (Turkey was Hitler's model) and the Native Americans (victims of Spanish and Anglo zionism)?
27. White supremacist Anglos and Scots have been having a field day in messing with Zionists heads for centuries.
28. Some Anglos hate Jews (anti-semitism) just like their European brothers; they've found a good front facade in the false prohecies of endtimes and the rapture.
29. Other Anglos convert to Judaism and go so far as moving to Israel and becoming settlers, where they displace and murder Palestinians because it is "their God given right."
30. Doesn't this sound like the Anglo mentality behind the colonization and genocide of Native Americans?
31. The mythology behind the monarchy in England and other scottish rite mumbo jumbo can also be used to explain this. The British monarchy thinks its descended from the bloodlines of the House of David, with Anglos being "one of the lost tribes of Israel."
32. Not all Anglos believe in this bullshit, nor white supremacy, but they have been historically victimized by it in the form of imperialism.
33. Consider the parallels between the colonization of Ireland, North American, and now Palestine.
34. The U.S. uses Israel as its military colony in the middle east. Christian fascists support this due to their belief in the false prophecies of endtimes and the rapture.
35. St. John's gospels and Revelation were talking about the rise and fall of the Roman Empire, but many Christians are too high on the crackpipe of god to recognize this.
36. Revelation could also be interpreted as describing the cycle of the rise and fall of Empires, but many Christians are too stupid to understand that.
37. The U.S. empire understands this, thus, they allowed
9/11 to happen (and promoted its eventual occurence through their foreign policies in the middle east) to justify the current policy of taking over the world a la Hitler. Isn't history so ironic? But sad for its victims (including the Zionists).
38. Some Zionists and Christian Fascists believe that "when the Jews return to Zion" means them and their white supremacist ideology. This is why white supremacist Anglos can latch onto this ("it's me, I'm the chosen! Let's move to Israel and displace and kill Arabs").
39. Israeli's complain about terrorist groups and suicidal bombers, but never let their critics entertain why Palestinians and Arabs would go to such measures. Could it have to do with 1948 and the Great Catastrophe (or the so-called "founding of Israel" if you believe the Zionists).
40. The IDF has been following a policy of murdering Palestinian women and children for decades, but you never hear about this in the U.S. corporate media.
41. This has nothing to do with the "Jews control the media" but with the influence of money (AIPAC) and the U.S.'s foreign policy interests in the middle east and the U.S. military's ties to the American corporate media.
42. How can the military and its contractors effectively sell weapons to everybody from Israel to Saddam Hussein if Americans are aware of how those weapons will be used to kill innocent civilians in the middle east? That's where your taxpayer dollars are going, not to the welfare state or medicare for that matter.
43. America is fucked because oil barons (bush, cheney, and condi) are running the show and using Israel as a juggernaut in their plans to monopolize middle eastern oil.
44. U.S. troops are sent to Iraq under the pretense of defending democracy, but are really defending the current administration's oil interests, and Israel's interests as part of the deal--Don Corleone would call them "saps." Bring our saps home alive.
45. The contradictions of the current Christian Fascism, as noted above, allow white supremacists and brainwashed Christians fascists of color to support Israel while maintaining their own latent anti-semitism.
46. At some point, progessive Jews, Christians, and Arabs will be allowed to speak in the public sphere and the Christians Fascists and know-nothing Americas will shit a brick and learn the truth when they realize how bamboozled they've been.
47. The current conflict between Israel, Lebanon, and the Palestinians is the result of Israels policy of extermination toward Palestinians, and the legacy of its 1982 invasions of Lebanon. Hezbollah and Hamas are only the agents of the aggression and resistance that these policies and histories have incurred.
48. The corporate media ignores the history of Israels incursions across the Lebanese border to kidnap Lebanese citizens, and the fact that the Hamas kidnapping of the IDF soldier came after Israel kidnapped and incarcerated civilian members of the Palestinian authority. You'll never hear about this in U.S. corporate media, not because of the myth of Jews controlling the media (get over that, it clouds your ability to think), but because the truth doesn't serve the economic interests of the military industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us about decades ago.
49. The IDF is a genocidal occupational force whose policies and crimes ARE reminiscent of the German army and Nazis. Don't let the Zionists fool you.
50. The Zionists have a history of collaborating with the Nazis as Leni Brenner has pointed out. The truth hurts, so some Zionists hide behind white supremacist and a victimhood mentality.
51. Progressive Jews will eventually eclipse the effects of Zionism, U.S. foreign policy, and Christian Fascism, if these wackos don't blow up the world first, since their the only ones with access to nuclear weapons in the middle east.

PEACE
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Who is Wendy Klanbell?

by AMERICAN Tuesday, Jul. 18, 2006 at 8:58 AM

Interesting identity construction, but Shetidayaden or whatever his name is (geez, hard to spell), probably has more in common with the Nazi's or clan than I ever could. That was such a quick response that I guess Sheitdayaden has nothing better to do these days than monitor the IMC. While your at it, pick up some Brenner, Finkelstein, or Uri Avery and educate yourself, dude. I'm a male by the way and hate the Nazis and Klan as much as you do, if you're being honest with your feeling. Peace.
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Who is Wendy Clanbell

by AMERICAN Wednesday, Jul. 19, 2006 at 10:08 AM

This post was not written by Wendy whoever, but by someone who has followed the Israeli-Palestine conflict for years and has recognized several intersecting currents between Zionism and white supremacy. Its interesting that someone ould accuse me of being in league with Nazis or KKK given my critique of white supremacy. Do you really think this Wendy person would do such a thing. The ignorance of the response in evident in the quick dismissal of critiquing Israel, which was the point of the piece; if I wanted to focus on critiquing the anti-semitism of other nations, I would, but one country at a time here, please. Also, the manner with which the response dissmisses the work of Leni Brenner is ridiculous. On the other hand, it has been recognized by numerous scholars of Jewish and Israeli decent (including Finkelstein) that Alan Dershowitz is definitely a Zionist propagandist who has even plagiarized other's works, including the historical forgery "Since Time Immemorial." The truth hurts and you need to get off that canoe in that River in Egypt known as Da' nile. Hello!
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Hackers revenge on Morocco for defacing Israeli websites

by eye for an eye Wednesday, Jul. 19, 2006 at 10:12 AM


Followers of the controversial author and politician Obadiah Shoher retaliated against the Moroccan hackers (Team Evil) who defaced hundreds of Israeli websites on June 28 this year. 380 websites hosted by the Moroccan provider Omihost.com were completely erased, and their front pages read, We support SamsonBlinded. Team Good.

The Shoher’s group denies prior knowledge of the cyberattack, but praises the hackers’ efforts. The Samson Blinded’s founder Obadiah Shoher said, “That was a laudable application of the eye for an eye principle. Breaking the websites is a relatively simple job, and I’m sure that our unknown friends are prepared to conduct wholesale destruction of websites in the particular Islamic countries should the Moroccans deface any more Israeli sites.”

The group was formed around the Shoher’s manifesto Samson Blinded: A Machiavellian Perspective on the Middle East Conflict. Google banned the book from its ad program for “unacceptable content,” and Amazon deleted all reviews. In the Samson Blinded, Shoher suggests, among other measures, shutting down Islamist websites.

Obadiah Shoher is a pseudonym, and his identity remains secret. Shoher, uniquely among the Israeli right, argues against the current attack on Lebanon.
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Hey "Shetizayaden" or "Scapegoated Jew" or Whoever You Are

by AMERICAN Wednesday, Jul. 19, 2006 at 1:09 PM

"The post is lying trash, no matter who authored it."
- Why, because you disagree with my points.
"Zionism is actually affirmative action for the Jewish people on the international level -- the opposite of racism."
-Perhaps in its ideal form, but when wedded to imperialism and the white supremacist agenda of European nations, and the genocidal occupation of Palestine, I think not and others agree (Finkelstein, Avery, et. al.).
-The comparison with Affirmative Action is ridiculous considering that AA is a policy based on a history of exclusion against women and people of color in the U.S. under white supremacy. ZIonism is an ideology which has good intentions in terms of trying to protect the humanity of European Jews who have been historically dehumanized, but in practice it has actually perpetuated the racism and terror it was supposed to protect humanity against.
"To posit that it meshes with White supremacy is to expose your ignorance and/or ill intentions as a bigoted individual who plays fast and loose with the truth."
- No, I'm exposing the deceit of Zionists who have created the undemocractic state known as Israel and its exclusionary policies which have created that new prison known as the Gaza Strip. If you would read my thoughts with clarity and not with bias you would see that I distinguish Zionist white supremacy (which is basically evidenced by the race and class structure in Israel, where Ethiopian Jews are hung out to dry and Palestinians murdered) from Anglo white supremacy. And yet the current policies by the U.S. and Israel suggest the intersection of both.
"Further evidence of your ignotrance, let alone unwillingness to learn from your errors, is your insistence that antisemitism can denote hatred of Arabs."
- Historically, Arabs and Hebrews both speak semitic languages. North African Arabs and Jew are also both Semites. Your denial of this is evidence of your own prejudice, denial, and ignorance, and is representative of Zionist white supremacy.
"Critiquing Israel per se isn't the problem with your screed. The issue is that you single it out for opprobrium and a different standard that you fail to hold other countries to."
-I think I already responed to that one. If this was a discussion about Russia, I would make an appropriate critique. If this was a discussion about England, ditto. Germany has already been accounted for. Nobody seems to want to talk about the U.S.'s history of anti-semitism and how the U.S., like the Catholic Church, didn't really give a shit that Jews were being exterminated until Pearl Harbor, which isn't even really U.S. territory, was bombed. But the discussion at hand is about Israel, so spare me your pathetic attempt to distract from the discussion at hand.
"To dimiss Leni Brenner is far from ridiculous."
- I didn't dismiss him, you did.
"His unreliability and shoddy scholarship is by now legendary."
- In whose opinion, yours? Let's see some documentation outside of Dershowitz.
"One would be a fool to rely on his writings for knowledge about the Arab-Israeli conflicts."
- Why because he challenges the doctinal thinking, like Finkelsteian and Avery?
"Whatever the problems with From Time Imemorial, it's no forgery."
- I didn't say it was a forgery, I said Dershowitz's use of it as a source constitutes forgery.
"That you even make such an allegation further proves no productive exchange can take place with you as you barely know anything to comment, let alone being able to learn anything."
- I've learned alot from our exchange about how the empathic fallacy works when someone you are trying to dialogue with will react when their opinions are challenged by ideas that go against the grain.
"Your 50 points have been refuted and this evidently hurts you."
- The simplistic retort of "propaganda" is not a refutation, but a weak attempt to shut down the dialogue when it goes against what the other is willing to reflect upon. The neocons do this all the time on FOXNEWS, and so do the defenders of Israel and Zionism, as well as the Christian Fascism pundits of Israel.
- A weak attempt at trying to define my response to your rebuttal, but I've actually been empowered by your words as you see I've taken the time to retort, just as you have taken the time to respond to a IMC posting that is a day old and no longer on the front page. So who has been touched by this exchange?
"It takes much more than hollow shrieking and handwringing to impress me/us."
- I haven't been shreiking, I've been typing. Do you have multiple personalities (me/us?)?
"You'd do well to ditch the antisemitism and do your homework thoroughly and then perhaps we could have a meaningful and a remotely productive debate."
- Maybe you should ditch your doctrinal understanding of what constitutes anti-semitism, what constitutes white supremacy, and think more honestly about the policies of Israel and the historical connections between Jews and Arabs, with some real facts, not the stock responses, and then we will both be educated.
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Anti-Arab Sentiments Evidence of Racism as Well

by me too Wednesday, Jul. 19, 2006 at 1:17 PM

many of the other guy's responses to the 50 point, not all of which I agree completely with, are littered with things that have nothing to do with what american is talking about. nor does he try to engage the discussion of the right wing's christians connection to israel. his blanket statements and reference to the "arab-israeli conflict" also exposes his racism in that this is simply not true, since saudi arabia, jordan, and egypt all support israel.
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Educate Those Who Won't Listen

by AMERICAN Wednesday, Jul. 19, 2006 at 1:25 PM

- I'm flattered that people are making it a daily operation to follow this thread. Let the education continue, from a basic source, and then we can go deeper.

Semitic
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In linguistics and ethnology, Semitic (from the Biblical name "Shem") was first used to refer to a language family of largely Middle Eastern origin, now called the Semitic languages. This family includes the ancient and modern forms of Amharic, Arabic, Aramaic, Assyrian, Akkadian, Hebrew, Maltese, Syriac, Tigrinya, etc.

As language studies are interwoven with cultural studies, the term also came to describe the extended cultures and ethnicities, as well as the history of these varied peoples as associated by close geographic and linguistic distribution. The late 19th century term "anti-Semitism" came to be used in reference specifically to anti-Jewish sentiment, further complicating the understood meaning and boundaries of the term. Such usage, as well the advent of population genetics, against which other once-useful ethnic terms show a biasing imprecision, has led to much debate about its scope and usefulness in science.

In Medieval Europe, all Asian peoples were thought of as descendents of Shem. By the nineteenth century, the term Semitic was confined to the ethnic groups who have historically spoken Semitic languages. These peoples were often considered to be a distinct race. However, some anti-Semitic racial theorists of the time argued that the Semitic peoples arose from the blurring of distinctions between previously separate races. This supposed process was referred to as Semiticization by the race-theorist Arthur de Gobineau. The notion that Semitic identity was a product of racial "confusion" was later taken up by the Nazi ideologue Alfred Rosenberg.
Modern science, in contrast, identifies an ethnic group's common physical descent through genetic research, and analysis of the Semitic peoples suggests that they share a significant common ancestry. Though no significant common mitochondrial results have been yielded, Y-chromosomal links between Near-Eastern peoples like the Palestinians, Syrians and ethnic Jews have proved fruitful, despite differences contributed from other groups (see Y-chromosomal Aaron). Although population genetics is still a young science, it seems to indicate that a significant proportion of these peoples' ancestry comes from a common Near Eastern population to which (despite the differences with the Biblical genealogy) the term Semitic has been applied.


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Sorry, Forgot this too..

by AMERICAN Wednesday, Jul. 19, 2006 at 1:28 PM

Religion
In a religious context, the term Semitic can refer to the religions associated with the speakers of these languages: thus Judaism, Christianity and Islam are often described as "Semitic religions," though the term Abrahamic religions is more commonly used today. A truly comprehensive account of "Semitic" religions would include the polytheistic religions (such as the religions of Adad, Hadad) that flourished in the Middle East before the Abrahamic religions.

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As to some of the input by "me too"

by shetizdayen indeebay Wednesday, Jul. 19, 2006 at 2:53 PM

Some of his/her remarks are really telling in how they betray Israel bashers' readiness to go to record lengths of manufacturing strawmen, e.g. "his blanket statements and reference to the "arab-israeli conflict" also exposes his racism in that this is simply not true," by which he/she presumably insinuates it wouldn't be racist to refer to the dispute as an Israeli-Arab or Israeli-Palestinian one -- insane logic if there ever was any.

Then this bit of ignorance, "since saudi arabia, jordan, and egypt all support israel." Ha... since when does S.A. support Israel? The "logic" here seems to be that any Arab country not directly warring against Israel supports Israel. But then Syria should qualify too, no?
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SchtarkerYid

by Toady, you remain an idiot Friday, Jul. 21, 2006 at 2:00 PM

Toady, you remain an idiot
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