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Immigration Harms Black America

by PM Friday, Mar. 31, 2006 at 10:00 PM
mailto:info@harvestinstitute.org (202) 518-2465 The Harvest Institute, 623 Florida Avenue, NW, Washington, DC 20001

Dr. Anderson will be appearing at: Eso Won Books 3655 S La Brea Ave Los Angeles, CA 90016 Friday, March 31, 2006, 6:30 p.m.

Immigration Harms Bl...
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“Immigration’s impact on native Blacks and their communities is disproportionate, direct and

devastating,” said. Dr. Claud Anderson, president of The Harvest Institute, a Black-focused research,

policy and education organization. Anderson said that the hidden national employment rate of Blacks is

35%. In cities like Baltimore, Detroit and Pittsburgh, Black unemployment is well over 45%. In New York,

unemployment for Black men tops 51% and the national youth unemployment figure is nearly 80%. In the 1930s, government declared a national emergency when total unemployment reached 25%.

Native Blacks are a labor class that the government and private industry are allowing to become obsolete while they reach out to foreign born immigrants to fill shrinking employment opportunities. The Harvest Institute opposes amnesty for illegal immigrant aliens, guest worker programs, and supports increased restrictions on illegal and legal immigration until the nation first lifts the legacies of slavery and Jim Crow on native Black American. Dr. Anderson said, “Most civil rights groups and elected officials turn a blind eye to the fact that current immigration laws and public policies advantage new immigrants above Blacks and bestow benefits and rights to foreign born that native Blacks still strive to acquire but have never enjoyed.”

Research from the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) indicates that immigrants drive down the

wage scale and displace native Black Americans in skilled and unskilled jobs. Businesses often claim that

immigrants perform jobs that Americans will not. Low wage immigrants relieve businesses of the need to

pay living wages. Jobs in America pay immigrants wages 10 to 20 times what they would earn in their

homelands. Minimum wage is not a liveable wage for most Americans. At the same time, there are many

categories of jobs that native Blacks would like to perform, but immigrants are often preferred. Both

governments and the private sector ignore native Blacks as a source of labor for jobs the economy needs.

Dr. Anderson, author of best-selling books that include, PowerNomics: The National Plan to Empower

Black America, once a high ranking member of the Democratic party said, “Both political parties ignore

and patronize native Blacks who, across the economic strata, increasingly resent the preferential treatment

bestowed upon immigrants.”

According to Anderson, “The Harvest Institute’s mission is to correct some of the historical

legacies of exclusion by helping Black America to become more self-sufficient and competitive as a

group.

The Harvest Institute bases its opposition to increased immigration on the Constitution which

mandated the United States government to correct the effects of slavery on Blacks. Laws created slavery

and enslaved Blacks as a group. Therefore, to emancipate slaves and to change government policies that were legal under slavery but illegal after emancipation, Congress passed corrective laws and Constitutional Amendments. Congress mandated Due Process and Equal Protection for Blacks in the 13th and 14th Constitutional Amendments, and in the 1866 Civil Rights Law mandated that “...all levels of government [to] use all necessary means to lift all the badges and incidents of slavery off the shoulders of black people.” None of the mandated corrective actions have ever occurred. Nor did the civil rights laws and social integration of the 1960s lift the “badges and incidences of slavery” from native Black Americans.

Instead of implementing the required corrective measures, the federal government enacted policies which advantaged immigrants over native Black Americans. The immigration policies of the United States have made native Black Americans this nation’s

only planned, permanent, involuntary minority-loser. Immigration hurts Blacks more than any other

population group in America in the following ways:

? The legacies of the slavery and Jim Crow legal regimes continue to affect native Blacks. Of all

the nation’s population groups –Whites, Asians, Blacks and Native Americans– native Blacks

have the highest unemployment, lowest median household income and the lowest number of

businesses. Immigrants compete with native Black Americans and displace them economically,

from housing, their neighborhoods, businesses, education, employment, affirmative action programs

and in the nation’s conscience.

? Any amnesty policy that accepts the 11-20 million illegal aliens would extend immigration rights to

additional family members. If each illegal immigrant brought even two people, the resultant 40

million would completely decimate and even nullify the voting strength of 36 million native Black

Americans;

? According to CIS, immigrant headed households consume more in public services than they pay in

taxes. The fiscal burden ranges from billion to billion above the net gain from having

immigrants in the work force. The corporate elite benefit most from increased immigration. Native

Black taxes are used to help lift immigrants and provide services to them such as health care and

educational opportunities, that are not available to native Blacks.

? Affirmative action programs, originally intended as corrective action for Blacks, have been

converted into preference programs for immigrants. However, ninety percent of immigrants are

classified as White and Whites are excluded from affirmative action programs, why then are

uninjured immigrants included in these programs?

? Immigration has erased the 10% income gains that native Blacks made between 1956 and 1966,

the years of the civil rights movement.

Responsibility to enhance the lives of native born Americans should be a higher priority of the

United States government than creating opportunities for foreign born. The Harvest Institute recommends

that Congress and the Administration work to eliminate the disparities between immigrants, legal and illegal, and native Blacks in America and adopt the following policies:

1) Restrict immigration and train native populations, especially unemployed and unskilled Blacks, as a

new labor pool;

2) Immigration reform should include resources to establish economic development programs such as

community banks to specifically alleviate the direct negative impact on native Black communities;

3) Require all immigrants that seek American citizenship to demonstrate knowledge of Black history

and the contributions native Blacks have made to the development of this nation;

4) Reform existing immigration law to treat Haitian refugees equal to Cuban refugees;

increase the number of immigrants of African descent until their numbers match the percentage of

Asians, Arabs, and Hispanics who have migrated to the United States, legally and illegally over the

last 40 years;

5) Remove immigrants from affirmative action programs which were initially intended to address the

native Black racial problem.

(For more detailed information see the Information www.harvestinstitute.org)

Friday, March 31, 2006, 6:30 p.m.

Dr. Anderson will be appearing at:

Eso Won Books (323) 294-0324

3655 S La Brea Ave

Los Angeles, CA 90016

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Not Bad

by except for # 5 Friday, Mar. 31, 2006 at 11:17 PM

I can agree with most of their recommendations, except for # 5. But over all what they are saying is that Jim Crow and its legacy need to be fixed before the immigration issue is dealt with.

___________________________________________________

The Harvest Institute recommends

that Congress and the Administration work to eliminate the disparities between immigrants, legal and illegal, and native Blacks in America and adopt the following policies:

1) Restrict immigration and train native populations, especially unemployed and unskilled Blacks, as a

new labor pool;

2) Immigration reform should include resources to establish economic development programs such as

community banks to specifically alleviate the direct negative impact on native Black communities;

3) Require all immigrants that seek American citizenship to demonstrate knowledge of Black history

and the contributions native Blacks have made to the development of this nation;

4) Reform existing immigration law to treat Haitian refugees equal to Cuban refugees;

increase the number of immigrants of African descent until their numbers match the percentage of

Asians, Arabs, and Hispanics who have migrated to the United States, legally and illegally over the

last 40 years;

5) Remove immigrants from affirmative action programs which were initially intended to address the

native Black racial problem.

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Hmmm

by anonymous Friday, Mar. 31, 2006 at 11:25 PM

I don't know about the entire society, but at my mom's old factory, some Black people were supervising the Brown people.

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Good point,anonymous

by Lord Locksley Friday, Mar. 31, 2006 at 11:30 PM

Your mom's experience is more common than most people imagine....some of us actually have the temerity to believe that promotions ought to be based on merit rather than physical characteristics.....but dont tell Jesse Jackson...it would break his heart

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PROBLEM #1

by Nazi Hunter Friday, Mar. 31, 2006 at 11:58 PM

The editors at Indymedia need some education - and need to be more careful about what they choose to highlight.

Problem #1 with this piece is that Dr. Anderson cites as a source for his arguments the arch reactionary Center for Immigration Studies (CIS).

For some background on CIS, and on who Dr. Anderson has implicitly lined himself up with, see below.



http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1452

Overview

The Center for Immigration Studies describes itself as "the nation's only think tank devoted exclusively to research and policy analysis of the economic, social, demographic, fiscal, and other impacts of immigration on the United States." Founded in 1985 as a think tank to support the more activist work of the anti-immigrant Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), CIS is dedicated "to expand the base of public knowledge and understanding of the need for an immigration policy that gives first concern to the broad national interest. The Center is animated by a pro-immigrant, low-immigration vision which seeks fewer immigrants but a warmer welcome for those admitted."

CIS describes itself as “independent” and “nonpartisan,” but its studies, reports, and media releases consistently support its restrictionist agenda and works closely on Capitol Hill with Republican Party immigration restrictionists. However, CIS has achieved credibility with the media and in think tank circles because of its lack of the kind of strident anti-immigrant rhetoric associated with many restrictionist groups, its willingness to invite pro-immigrant voices to its forums, and the scholarly format of its reports.

Members of its board of directors are: Patrick Burns, Thomas C.T. Brokaw, George Grayson, David Simoz (chair and president), Carol Iannone, Otis Graham (co-chair), Peter Nuñez, Frank Morris, William Chip, Jacquelye Jackson, Vernon Briggs, Scott McConnell, and Willard Fair. Steven Camarota is director of research, and Mark Kirkorian (formerly a policy expert with FAIR) is executive director. Annual revenues in 2002 were 8,810. (1)

Origins, History, and Impact

The Center for Immigration Studies was founded in 1985 as a spin-off of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR). Another FAIR spin-off is the Immigration Reform Law Institute, which functions as the litigation arm of FAIR, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. (3)

CIS publishes books, reports, papers, and monthly backgrounders. Its analysis on such issues as immigrant voting and electoral redistricting, impacts on low-wage and high-skilled workers, and tax impacts are closely followed by immigration experts of all persuasions. In the mid-1990s, immigration restrictionists, boosted by findings of congressional commissions, seemed to be on the verge of passing legislation to turn the legislative tide that had favored immigration flows since the 1986 amnesty. But largely because of lobbying by a right-left, corporate-pro-immigrant coalition in which high-tech industries played a leading role, immigration restrictionist groups likes CIS and FAIR saw their restrictionist agenda die in Congress. Lately, as concerns about the plight of low-wage labor, outsourcing, and national security merge, CIS and restrictionism in general are once again gaining a new hearing in Congress.

“Let’s be clear,” wrote Frank Sharry of the National Immigration Forum, “CIS was birthed by FAIR, the militant anti-immigration group. The CIS executive director moved from FAIR to CIS to head up the organization. Although now independent, the two organizations share the same basic agenda: an American version of what in Europe is called ‘zero immigration.’” According to Sharry, CIS masquerades as an objective, “squeaky clean” think tank, but CIS is “simply churning out high-sounding, low-credibility grist for the high-pitch, low-road anti-immigration forces in the United States.” This assessment of CIS is widely shared among pro-immigrant groups, but CIS studies are not only frequently cited by the “low-road” nativist forces but also by major news media. (4)

CIS has also been critiqued as being part of a network of anti-immigrant groups that cater to a white supremacist constituency by right-wing economic libertarians who believe in the benefits of mass and unfettered immigration. A Wall Street Journal op-ed (June 15, 2004), that was widely praised and circulated by pro-immigrant groups, reported that despite the fact that CIS “may strike right-wing poses in the press,” it and other like-minded groups “support big government, mock federalism, deride free markets, and push a cultural agenda abhorrent to any self-respecting social conservative.” A follow-up article in the Wall Street Journal titled “Borderline Republicans” described the anti-immigration network this way: “CIS, FAIR, NumbersUSA, ProjectUSA—and more than a half-dozen similar groups that Republicans have become disturbingly comfortable with—were founded or funded (or both) by John Tanton. In addition to trying to stop immigration to the U.S., appropriate population control measures for Dr. Tanton and his network include promoting China’s one-child policy, sterilizing Third World women, and wider use of RU-486.” (5) Replying to this charge, Krikorian wrote in National Review Online that CIS does not take a “position on anything that does not involve U.S. immigration policy.” (6)

Rep. Chris Cannon (R-Utah) has come under sharp criticism by CIS and other immigration restrictionist groups for his pro-immigration positions. According to Cannon, “Tanton set up groups like CIS and FAIR to take an analytical approach to immigration from a Republican point of view so that they can give cover to Republicans who oppose immigration for other reasons.” (5)

Executive director Krikorian, who appears regularly before congressional committees discussing immigration policy, describes himself and CIS as being “conservative” but as not belonging to the “high-immigration Right” as represented by the Wall Street Journal. According to Krikorian, “The high-immigration Right works hand-in-glove with the anti-American Left.” Like many anti-immigrant groups, CIS believes that Corporate America and leftists share a common agenda of open borders, albeit for different reasons. (6)

Funding

Early funding for CIS was channeled through U.S. Inc, a nonprofit established and still directed by John Tanton, who was one of the cofounders of the Federation of American Immigration Reform (FAIR). (3) Among the right-wing foundations that fund CIS are Sarah Scaife Foundation, John M. Olin Foundation, Jaqueline Hume Foundation, Carthage Foundation, and Scaife Family Foundation. (2)

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and John Tanton is THE PUPPETEER

by Hex Saturday, Apr. 01, 2006 at 12:11 AM

who I just cited for fooling people into attacking eachother insted of the corporations and rich who are the real problem

thanks to PM who posted this thread -

a stooge

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these two are your REAL enemy

by Hex Saturday, Apr. 01, 2006 at 12:24 AM

US Immigration Reform PAC is headed by Mary Lou Tanton, wife of John Tanton, a Michigan-based ophthalmologist which has "either formed, led or otherwise made possible...the vast array of America's anti-immigration groups."

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Additional Info

by Google tracker Saturday, Apr. 01, 2006 at 1:23 AM

HARVEST INSTITUTE BOARD MEMBER

Dr. Christine D. Brooks gave ,000 to Bush

Source:

http://www.fundrace.org/neighbors.php?search=1&type=name&lname=Brooks&fname=Christine

Also:

http://www.harvestinstitute.org/index.html



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RACIST minutement recruit blacks

by Martin Saturday, Apr. 01, 2006 at 2:47 AM

http://www.minutemanproject.com/gallery.html

It looks like the minute minus men are recruiting all those blacks that have been displaced by la raza.



too bad
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The Doctor and the Oppressor

by Tecpatl Saturday, Apr. 01, 2006 at 10:43 AM

The Harvest Institute recommends

that Congress and the Administration work to eliminate the disparities between immigrants, legal and illegal, and native Blacks in America and adopt the following policies:

-----------

Immigrants are poorer than African Americans. If the racist elites of the US were to eliminate disparities, the'd do so by making all concerned poorer.

-----------------

1) Restrict immigration and train native populations, especially unemployed and unskilled Blacks, as a

new labor pool;

___________

For what jobs, for jobs as field hands, day laborers, gardeners and nannies? I don't think so. If the white racist elites wanted to train African Americans for jobs, they could easily do so, and immigartion has nothing to do with it. Instead the white racist elites have chosen the path of mass incarceration to replace the path of Jim Crow - and for the same reasons - to subjugate African Americans.

___________________

2) Immigration reform should include resources to establish economic development programs such as

community banks to specifically alleviate the direct negative impact on native Black communities;

____________________

Immigration isn't stopping the white racist elites from instituting such a program. They WANT Blacks to be poor. MIgrants have nothing to do with it.

The white racist elites are too busy redlining African American communities to establish banks for them.

_____________________



3) Require all immigrants that seek American citizenship to demonstrate knowledge of Black history

and the contributions native Blacks have made to the development of this nation;

_______________

I actually like this one. Too bad it won't happen. The white racist elites aren't _about_ to highlight Black history in _any meaningful way - not to or for Balcks, Whites, Asians, or anyone else. Why pick on migrants for the white elite's suppression of Black History?

_______________

4) Reform existing immigration law to treat Haitian refugees equal to Cuban refugees;

_________________

Sorry, in the view of the white racist elites NO ONe is equal to reactionary white anti-Castro Cubans.

_________________

increase the number of immigrants of African descent until their numbers match the percentage of

Asians, Arabs, and Hispanics who have migrated to the United States, legally and illegally over the

last 40 years;

_________________

What part of the history of genocide don't you understand?

Besides, this is stolen land, stolen form us just as surely as Africans were stolen from their land and brought ehre. If you haven't figured it out, we're the natives, Europeans are the invaders.

___________________



5) Remove immigrants from affirmative action programs which were initially intended to address the

native Black racial problem.

___________________

this isthe ugliest and narrowest of thes backward proposals, and shows the willingness of the Doctor to scapegoat other oppressed peoples.

IMMIGRANTS DON'T RECIEVE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. Chicanos and other peoples of color do, and were always meant to.

Affirmative Action was always meant to serve historically oppressed and excluded groups - not just African Americans.

Or maybe like some others, the good Doctor can't tell and doens't want to know the difference between Chicanos, and say, Central Americans.

For that matter, the US is way overdue to pay back the Third and Fourth worlds for it's GLOBAL ROBBERY, colonialism, genocide, amd imperalism.

Pitting oppressed peoples against one another ONLY serves the OPPRESSOR, Doctor.

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the reason why, Tecpatl,

by Hex Saturday, Apr. 01, 2006 at 3:36 PM

that the doctor is doing this is because it's a front for anti-immigration organizations, the source of which are the puppeteer and his wife I posted a picture of

they are more than any other single source, responsible for the anti-immigration activity

the doctor you've cited is a stooge - a cog in the wheel, the hub of which are the Tantons as above..

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nothing you can expose ?

by Hex Saturday, Apr. 01, 2006 at 5:49 PM

exposure and education are much more powerful than hate/racism disguised as concern for the law

our collective expose' above just did far more damage to your little puppeteer game of exploiting petty hate than any recruits you could have gained from spamming & trolling here

your so-called concern for the letter of law is transparent

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"breaking the law"

by never break the law Saturday, Apr. 01, 2006 at 6:07 PM

Do this instead:

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2006/01/145476_comment.php#145500

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Rosa Parks Broke the Law

by johnk Saturday, Apr. 01, 2006 at 10:29 PM

Rosa Parks broke the law.

Gandhi broke the law.

Nelson Mandela broke the law.

Thoreau broke the law.

The immigration laws are broken, because they are broken laws. They're built on fantasies about how the economy works, based on fears of people who are foreigners, based on ignorant nationalism.

Though I don't agree with everything the guy at the top writes, I think he's right about Black history. It should be part of the curriculum, and it should be taught from a Black perspective.

Every slave who learned to read broke the law.

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Black History

by johnk Saturday, Apr. 01, 2006 at 10:39 PM

>I actually like this one. Too bad it won't happen. The white racist elites aren't _about_ to highlight Black history in _any meaningful way - not to or for Balcks, Whites, Asians, or anyone else. Why pick on migrants for the white elite's suppression of Black History?

Black history is class and caste history. Today, America (including Latin America) likes to believe that they are class-less and caste-less, but centuries of legal documentation refute this.

I bet the Dr.'s "Black history" is about "achievements and contributions to the American tapestry" and not about little technicalities like Law, the Constitution, War, International Relations, Trade, Economics, Geography, Psychology, and Demographics.

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Illegal's showing a "Show of force?"

by PM Saturday, Apr. 01, 2006 at 10:50 PM

Am I the only one who saw this?

In my estimation, 500,000 to 1 million illegals marching is a "show of force". Are they willing to take on the U.S. if they are made to leave the country?

Also, what is difference between breaking into a country in the name of "we want jobs", and the tactic that was used in The Alamo. Please read on...

On February 23, 1836, the arrival of General Antonio López de Santa Anna's army outside San Antonio nearly caught them by surprise. Undaunted, the Texians and Tejanos prepared to defend the Alamo together. The defenders held out for 13 days against Santa Anna's army. William B. Travis, the commander of the Alamo sent forth couriers carrying pleas for help to communities in Texas. On the eighth day of the siege, a band of 32 volunteers from Gonzales arrived, bringing the number of defenders to nearly two hundred. Legend holds that with the possibility of additional help fading, Colonel Travis drew a line on the ground and asked any man willing to stay and fight to step over — all except one did. As the defenders saw it, the Alamo was the key to the defense of Texas, and they were ready to give their lives rather than surrender their position to General Santa Anna. Among the Alamo's garrison were Jim Bowie, renowned knife fighter, and David Crockett, famed frontiersman and former congressman from Tennessee.

The final assault came before daybreak on the morning of March 6, 1836, as columns of Mexican soldiers emerged from the predawn darkness and headed for the Alamo's walls. Cannon and small arms fire from inside the Alamo beat back several attacks. Regrouping, the Mexicans scaled the walls and rushed into the compound. Once inside, they turned a captured cannon on the Long Barrack and church, blasting open the barricaded doors. The desperate struggle continued until the defenders were overwhelmed. By sunrise, the battle had ended and Santa Anna entered the Alamo compound to survey the scene of his victory.

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The Difference

by johnk Saturday, Apr. 01, 2006 at 11:19 PM

Is that a trick question?

The difference is that Santa Ana was a general, and his people were soldiers.

The illegal immigrants are just people. Like the hundreds of millions of illegal immigrants around the world, they come in peace.

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Break illegally into a country and then march for your rights?

by PM Saturday, Apr. 01, 2006 at 11:25 PM

When you break "illegally" into a country, you don't have any rights.

Not all of these illegals are "looking for work". We don't know what they all want. We know one thing, millions are continuing to break into the U.S., and it appears that they can eventually take over the U.S.

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Rights

by johnk Sunday, Apr. 02, 2006 at 1:18 AM

It's just not true. People have rights without status. Read any court decisions about people without papers. They have rights.

People don't get their rights from following the rules. They have their rights because they are people. That's the guiding principle of the modern world and of modern democracy.

Imagine if it were otherwise. Imgaine if you got your rights only by following the rules. Then the rulers would have the power to define your rights. And the lawmakers would be up there with them.

Also, it's true that not all of these undocumented people from Latin America are looking for work. Some of them are gay and looking for freedom. Maybe some of them are Black and looking to escape racism.

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Drugs?

by johnk Sunday, Apr. 02, 2006 at 1:48 AM

I think most drugs Americans get high on are made in the USA. LSD, Marijuana, Meth, all American. Ecstasy comes via Israel. Cocaine is from South America (Colombia and Peru). Heroin is from Afghanistan. Funny how these are all allies or puppets.

They get in because the government looks the other way as big shipments cross into the country, via our ports. The government was involved in allowing organized crime to get and sell crack, and before that, heroin.

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Cocaine

by Hex Sunday, Apr. 02, 2006 at 1:57 AM

> allowing organized crime to get and sell crack

well cocaine actually - crack is usually converted on a small scale by the end-dealers who "step on" cocaine and freebase it to increase profit plus get high for free

the drug comes into the country as cocaine

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Drugs

by johnk Sunday, Apr. 02, 2006 at 8:01 AM

According to this article (http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/dea/product/cocaine.htm) the role of Mexicans in the coke trade is minimal. It's produced in Peru and Bolivia, and some in Colombia. (I thought Colombia is more significant, but they only are as processors and sellers.) Perhaps things have changed.

As for Marijuana, I am under the impression that "Mexican" pot is synonymous with low-grade product. The good stuff is grown in Northern California, Hawaii, and Tennessee, as well as in buildings across America. For example, there was a huge bust years ago when they went after a guy's mansion in Bel Air. These American farmers supply the local demand.

Here's an article that puts some numbers to the issue. It says that most of the pot grown is from out there, in your Red states. http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,947880,00.html

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Back on Track

by johnk Sunday, Apr. 02, 2006 at 9:57 AM

Some people expressed a desire to see real discussion about some issues, so I'll try to get things back on track. Dr. Andersen writes:

>4) Reform existing immigration law to treat Haitian refugees equal to Cuban refugees; increase the number of immigrants of African descent until their numbers match the percentage of Asians, Arabs, and Hispanics who have migrated to the United States, legally and illegally over the

last 40 years;

I thinkt the first part, about legalizing Haitians, is reasonable. The USs support of the Duvalier regimes screwed the Haitians over.

The second part, I think, misses a point. Immigration quotas for African counries is as high as other countries (except Mexico), and I think they even get a special "diverstiy" exception to allow people not normally allowed to immigrate to come in. They just aren't coming in great numbers.

I suspect this is because many opt to go to Europe, to their former colonizers. The US didn't have any colonies in Africa. The US hasn't invaded Africa. So there aren't many immigrant pathways from Africa to America.

Also, there's the issue of development. Just as an example, consider Mexico. Most of the immigrants from Mexico, until recently, were somewhat urbanized people. The people migrating within Mexico were rural people moving from villages to cities. Before someone emigrates to the US (especially given the above) they have to live in some kind of contemporary city. The city creates the context and motivation to emigrate, because the worker gains skills relevant to the American economy, be it driving a truck, using a computer, or working in a warehouse.

Africa is very rural. In fact, you could say it's been kept rural by colonization and a couple centuries of coordinated pillaging of is natural resources. Those who are urbanized are more likely to go to Europe, where they know the languages.

If there's a population of Africans to allow freely into the US, I think it's the people of the Carribean. We share geography and history. They suffer a lot of poverty, and it would be good if they could work here, and send money back.

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Addendum

by johnk Sunday, Apr. 02, 2006 at 10:23 AM

Some information on internal migration within Africa.

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the alamo?

by anon Sunday, Apr. 02, 2006 at 1:37 PM

The poster who brought up the Alamo as an example of "illegal immigration" forgot to mention a small fact The reason the Texas Republic broke from Mexico was very simple. Mexico had abolished slavery.

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Jews and Mexican Immigrants have one thing in common

by Meyer London Sunday, Apr. 02, 2006 at 7:42 PM

They have both been denounced and attacked by reactionary and demagogic speakers in the past few years at the Eso Won Book Store. It makes one wonder if that place is not owned or financed by the FBI.

By the way, there are a good number of African immigrants in Los Angeles, especially from NIgeria. Most of them do probably prefer to go to Europe, which is closer and much less afflicted with overt racism. Besides, Africans, like Europeans, sometimes have an exaggerated idea of how much violent street crime there actually is in the US; some are probably afraid that they will be shot down by drug-addicted street gangs as they leave the airport.

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Alamo, Pinche Alamo

by Tejano Monday, Apr. 03, 2006 at 9:26 AM

Alamo, Pinche Alamo...
alamo_pinche_alamo.jpg, image/jpeg, 330x198

!PINCHE ALAMO!

!AL DIABLO CON EL PINCHE ALAMO!

!Joder!

Get this straight. The so called sacred ass defenders of the "holy" frickin "alamo" were trying to INVADE AND STEAL Mexican and Indian land to EXPAND SLAVERY.

EVERY ONE of them got what they deserved.

For YOU - when white AMERIKKKA steals land and leads an invasion and commits GENOCIDE it's HOLY.

GET THIS STRAIGHT - the europeans at the fucking alamo were fucking thieves, mass murderers and slave mongers.

FUCK THE ALAMO.

Santa Ana should have destroyed the last evil brick of the place.



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Pork Chop Nationalism

by Bluto Blutarski Monday, Apr. 03, 2006 at 12:45 PM

Dr Anderson believes that by joining white racist bigots in scapegoating undocumented immigrants, blacks in the U.S. will be able to get more crumbs that fall off the dinner table of the wealthy white elites (the ones that really run this country).

Dr Anderson is just a symptom of the appalling lack of political organization among blacks in the U.S. I am sure that the position of the Black Panther Party regarding the immigration issue would be to support immigrant rights, and to oppose the racist bigots that are behind HR4437. Unfortunately, the Black Panther Party never really recovered from the FBI led COINTELPRO attacks of the 1970's.

Was it not Malcolm X the one that denounced ideas like those of Dr Anderson as 'pork chop nationalism' ?

In other words, joining the oppressor in scapegoating other oppressed groups in order to reap rewards.

Blacks need to recognize who their real enemies are.

Scapegoating undocumented immigrants will not get Blacks anywhere.

So, according to Dr Anderson, Blacks should support HR4437? What has Sensenbrenner, the right wing Republican Congressman proponent of HR4437 ever done to support Blacks?

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WHAT DISESASES??!!

by Tejano Wednesday, Apr. 05, 2006 at 2:54 AM

I am so sick of hearing this bs about migrants bringing diseases.

NAME ONE disease migrants have brought here!

You CAN'T.

This "disease" thing is just how the Nazis talked about Jewish people.

The only "disease" around here is minutemen RACISM.

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CDC Says...

by MadMaxim Wednesday, Apr. 05, 2006 at 4:10 AM

"Information provided by the Office of Migrant Health, DHHS, indicates that there are an estimated 4.2 million migrant and seasonal farm workers in the United States. Approximately 500,000 (12%) are served by federally supported migrant health centers (2). Compared with the general population, these workers often have numerous and complex health problems (e.g., TB, parasitic diseases, other communicable diseases, diabetes, hypertension, high-risk pregnancy, and neonatal problems), "
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00032773.htm
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Illegal Immigration harms blacks and all Americans

by Elaine Jones Tuesday, May. 02, 2006 at 5:20 PM
ejones9bbw@yahoo.com

Immigration and the drastic impact on American Citizens – They are taking our jobs and our education in fact



Regarding the immigration situation and the president's initiative on tougher laws, I support him 100%. I'm a democrat also. I think it's terrible that people are in our country illegally and think this is o.k. (And no religious person who believes in God would think living illegally is right). The Rolling Meadows H.S. Pacer printed an article with names changed of a boy who's illegally living in Mt. Prospect and going to RMHS. The article claims that his apartment complex right here is allowing illegals in - the only criteria is that you have a job!! How many of you have been turned down for a house loan or apartment and you are legal? This means he is taking classroom time away from my child and others here who are citizens and with money for education in a crunch the illegals are taking our tax dollars to educate their kids to the neglect of ours. Also my daughter says there are 2 illegals in her class. What state law allows illegals to be educated in our schools? Then they get everything free - while you and I pay for books, tuition, meals, etc. Also, they get jobs that Americans would in fact take - anyone in a homeless shelter, the projects or trailer parks would do these and teens also who legitimately need work to save for college and adults to support themselves. Come over to the Arlington Heights one-stop/unemployment office and interview the unemployed and they will tell you they would do these jobs. "Give us your Tired Masses" and the Statue of Liberty was not meant to mean "give me everyone in the world to shirk taxes and work illegally" to the neglect of Americans. Remember September 11th - these were illegals in our country trained in our flight schools who flew planes and killed us. Everybody was an immigrant theory does not hold water as the Indians were not immigrants and the slaves were brought here against their will and a large portion of whites came here during Columbus's time to discover the new world, but ALL have gained legal status. So, Monday when they march - good that way the schools can teach the citizens and legals and the businesses can pay wages for that day to those legal to obtain wages. By the way, which is it - when they have the parades of their country such as Mexican they waive the Mexican flag saying long live Mexico and now they waive our flag saying they are Americans -which is it now!? Elaine

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Facts

by allamericangirl Tuesday, May. 02, 2006 at 7:33 PM

Rosa Parks broke the law.
Gandhi broke the law.
Nelson Mandela broke the law.
Thoreau broke the law.
The immigration laws are broken, because they are broken laws.

---Just because one harbors the opinion that a law is broken does NOT mean that they can break them.

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Drugs?

by johnk Friday, Mar. 31, 2006 at 5:48 PM

I think most drugs Americans get high on are made in the USA. LSD, Marijuana, Meth, all American. Ecstasy comes via Israel. Cocaine is from South America (Colombia and Peru). Heroin is from Afghanistan. Funny how these are all allies or puppets.

They get in because the government looks the other way as big shipments cross into the country, via our ports. The government was involved in allowing organized crime to get and sell crack, and before that, heroin.

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http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs11/12620/exec-sum.htm

* >>Mexican criminal groups exert more influence over drug trafficking in the United States than any other group. Mexican criminal groups smuggle most of the cocaine available in domestic drug markets into the country. Moreover, >> Mexican criminal groups produce and subsequently smuggle into the country much of the heroin, marijuana, and methamphetamine available in U.S. drug markets. >> Mexican criminal groups also produce large amounts of marijuana and methamphetamine within the United States for domestic distribution. >> Mexican criminal groups are the predominant transporters and wholesale distributors of cocaine and methamphetamine in most regions of the country; they are the predominant transporters and wholesale distributors of heroin in western regions of the country; and they are very prominent transporters and wholesale distributors of marijuana throughout the country.



* >> Mexican drug trafficking organizations (DTOs) appear to be gaining control of a larger percentage of the cocaine smuggled into the United States. The estimated percentage of cocaine smuggled into the United States via the >>Mexico-Central America corridor increased sharply from 72 percent in 2002 to 77 percent in 2003, and preliminary data indicate that the percentage may be higher than 90 percent for 2004. Nearly all of the cocaine transported through the >>Mexico-Central America corridor ultimately is smuggled across the >>U.S.-Mexico border by >>Mexican criminal groups for subsequent distribution in the United States.



* Domestic drug markets appear to be increasingly supplied with methamphetamine produced in methamphetamine superlabs in >> Mexico.

* Production and distribution of ice methamphetamine--a higher purity, more addictive form of methamphetamine--by >> Mexican criminal groups have increased sharply over the past 2 years in many drug markets.



* Colombian DTOs are increasingly relying on >> Mexican DTOs and criminal groups to transport South American heroin to the United States much as they rely on Mexican DTOs to transport cocaine.



* Law enforcement reporting indicates that transportation of bulk currency out of the United States--primarily overland across the U.S.->> Mexico border--is the principal form of money laundering by DTOs.

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WHAT DISESASES??!!

by Tejano Monday, Apr. 03, 2006 at 10:54 PM

I am so sick of hearing this bs about migrants bringing diseases.

NAME ONE disease migrants have brought here!

You CAN'T.

-----Chagas diseas--------



Chagas disease is found only in >>>>Latin America. It is named after Carlos Chagas, a Brazilian doctor who first described the disease in 1909. He also described the life-cycle of the parasite, identified the insects that transmit the parasite, identified small mammals that act as reservoir hosts, and suggested means to help prevent its transmission.

http://www.who.int/tdr/diseases/chagas/default.htm

-------Distribution---------

Distribution of Chagas disease 18 countries in 2 ecological zones:

Southern Cone, where vector insects live inside human homes

Northern South America, Central America and Mexico, where the vector lives both inside and outside dwellings

http://www.who.int/tdr/diseases/chagas/diseaseinfo.htm

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Disease Reality

by justin Tuesday, May. 02, 2006 at 10:33 PM

Illegals bring diseases into the US every single day.

Tuberculosis is a major problem.

"Personnel with the CDC's Division of TB Elimination have said in various reports that "immigration is a major force that sustains the incidence of tuberculosis" in the United States and other developed countries. "

(http://washingtontimes.com/specialreport/20050212-112200-6485r.htm)

Other diseases include "sickle cell anemia, hepatitis B, measles and the potentially deadly parasitic disease Chagas"

Further... "Immigrants, particularly illegals, also impose "huge costs" on the U.S. health care system, especially in states bordering Mexico, says Steven A. Camarota, research director for the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS).

According to a survey by the American Hospital Association (AHA), hospitals in 24 Southwest border counties in Arizona, California, Texas and New Mexico reported uncompensated care totaling nearly 2 million in 2000."

If you think that illegal aliens don't bring diseases into this country you're simply stupid.

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Facts

by johnk Wednesday, May. 03, 2006 at 6:59 AM

Immigration laws are unrealistic (to use the current parlance).

Presently, the native born Americans have a birth rate below self-replacement. All our population growth comes from different kinds of immigration. This population growth is one contributor to the overall growth of the economy. (The increase in productivity is another.)

Therefore, if we desire an economy with growth, we must have immigration (or tell people to have more kids) to prevent a decline in population (unless productivity gains can outpace the loss of people).

The capitalist system demands growth. It's based around lending money (or, they say, renting out capital). Lenders charge interest, and that interest being paid propels growth. Capitalism creates the conditions for immigration (as well as increases in productivity).

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Meth is Mexican

by The Amezcua Brothers Thursday, May. 04, 2006 at 12:41 AM



http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Amezcua+meth

The majority of Ecstasy, on the other hand, is imported from our good friend and ally - Israel.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Israel+Ecstasy
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