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by Torsten Wohlert
Friday, Mar. 10, 2006 at 1:57 PM
mbatko@lycos.com
Iran's president provokes in order to divert. the message seems directed outwards and yet primarily has a domestic political nature. A face-saving solution is crucial. Megaloma-nia, arrogance and invulnerability are sicknesses in the US and Iran.
THE FEAR OF THE ISLAMIC BOMB Teheran Psycho: The origins of the Islamic Nuclear Program go back to the Shah Rezah Pahlavi and Henry Kissinger By Torsten Wohlert [This article published in: Freitag 09, 3/3/2006 is translated abridged from the German on the World Wide Web, http://www.freitag.de/2006/09/06090701.php.] Iran’s elected president's verbal abuse that Israel should disappear from the map sounded very absurd… With the help of the US, Iran’s ambitious nuclear program began almost 50 years ago. Washington delivered the first research reactor in 1959. The next one was supplied eight years later. In 1975 Secretary of State Kissinger signed National Security Decision memorandum 292 that raised US-Iran nuclear cooperation to a new level. This memorandum earmarked the construction of two-dozen nuclear power plants and the possibility of establishing a complete nuclear cycle. It was an invitation to Teheran to join the club of nuclear weapon states and thus a blatant offense against the Nuclear Test ban treaty resolved in 1968 and ratified by the US in 1970. The Nuclear test ban treaty should have prevented this. At that time Washington had no inhibitions about nuclear arms for Iran. There were no other potent buyers of American military technology in the region at that time… In 1979 the nuclear program of the overthrown Shah was put on ice as “infernal stuff’ by the Islamic revolutionaries. This happened on one hand for ideological reasons, primarily the resulting dependence on technological imports and had nothing to do with nuclear technology in itself. As a practical reason, both reactors (85 and 50 percent completed) found no customers in Iran’s economy weakened by the revolution… POURING OIL INTO THE FIRE From an energy policy and technological standpoint, the once plausible insights of the overthrown Shah are long antiquated. Even as an oil- and gas-exporter, Iran had other alternatives in the medium- and long-term for securing its precarious supply situation. Studies show that a conversion to regenerative energies could have been tackled in an economically sensible way. The technological progress from which threshold countries like Iran could expect an economic push had long developed away from the atom to solar technology appropriate to this region. If Teheran gave little attention to the analyses promoted by the Wuppertal Institute, this was due to controversial positions on democracy and human rights and to the fact that solar prophets are hardly appreciated in Iran. One only needs to put oneself in the situation of the Ahmadinedschad government for a moment to understand why a desperate leadership leaps on the nuclear train. A rich country is confronted with social problems that can hardly be solved. The verbal readiness to disarm is Teheran’s imaginary pledge. The staged national pride is a propagandistic exaggeration and demands a levelheaded reaction. Iran’s president provokes in order to divert. The message seems directed outward and yet primarily has a domestic political nature. Ahmadinedschad’s rhetoric has little to do with the ambivalent status of the Iranian atomic program. His program is unacceptable but not grounds for warmongering. Statements like those of US Senator McCain: “Only one thing is worse than a military action and that is a nuclear armed Iran” serve as verbal rearmament and prepare the ground for the next war or for “limited targeted” military strikes against Iran that could potentially trigger an extensive fire. Therefore one thing is necessary above all: European crisis diplomacy between Teheran, Washington and Jerusalem. Mistrust toward Teheran’s peaceful intentions arises toward the negotiated Moscow offer to provide a kind of uranium enrichment to Iran on Russian territory. This mistrust is entirely justified given numerous inconsistencies uncovered by the IAEA (International Atomic Energy Authority) in many inspections in the past months and years. As a signatory of the Nuclear Test Ban treaty, Iran has the explicit right to develop its own civil nuclear cycle but must submit to inspections. The IAEA suspected military misuse in the past. The decision to refer the case to the UN Security Council gives several options. The Security Council can regard the suspicion as serious and resolve appropriate measures like sanctions. The case could be forwarded to the IAEA again and examined with an expanded mandate. This procedure is like a cat-and-mouse game with suspicions that can be easily politically staged and instrumentalized. This game is marked by an ambivalence arising from the nuclear technology itself that cannot be dissolved in security policy by an institution like the IAEA. Therefore the Moscow proposal seems to be a suitable attempt to cut this Gordian knot at least for the moment. The proposal requires abandoning sovereignty and upsets Mahmoud Ahmadinedschad’s domestic politics and verbal abuse. Ultimative, publically orchestrated pressure on the Iranian government reduces the chance for a face-saving solution. Whoever now pours oil on this fire does not want a hard negotiating partner. He wants an enemy – with all the fatal consequences.
www.mbtranslations.com
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 3:11 AM
Is this the very best they can do for salting? "numerous inconsistencies " without even listing what the hell they might even be? This That's like the 'Nukular' package the Russians gave ( notice an earlier planted factoid from STRATFOR which was never verified or followed up on ) 'Iran & Syria' all in the attempt to cultivate rumors of imminent 'Nukular' threats ...again... The same damn dumb drum.
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by Hex
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 3:55 AM
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Ferrous Cranus is utterly impervious to reason, persuasion and new ideas, and when engaged in battle he will not yield an inch in his position regardless of its hopelessness. Though his thrusts are decisively repulsed, his arguments crushed in every detail and his defenses demolished beyond repair he will remount the same attack again and again with only the slightest variation in tactics. Sometimes out of pure frustration Philosopher will try to explain to him the failed logistics of his situation, or Therapist will attempt to penetrate the psychological origins of his obduracy, but, ever unfathomable, Ferrous Cranus cannot be moved.
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by Awwwww...
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 4:30 AM
Aren't you the very same mental cripple who keeps asking me to post pictures of myself beyond this family album? http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/49088.php or would you rather inspect this thread? http://la.indymedia.org/news/2006/02/148667_comment.php#148722 :>)
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by put up yer paws
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 4:38 AM
And if the Whizz will oblige me in this respect in order to settle the problems we see in the coming psyops to foster the nuclear weapons (WMDuhs) *rumor in the possession of 'Iran & Syria'. :>) If there were a reviewed report... from a -creditable- source. here we go again.
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by Hex
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 4:49 AM
I'm not smashy - I posted my email, you're to chickenshit and paranoid (and dishonest) to even do that
you throw "mental cripple" out when Pravda says you are
and "this thread" is nothing but a empty distraction of things I already posted in much more detail, here I'll help you -
"Sheepdog (Bill Gallagher - a scam artist who rips people off with his fake antiques, "Tesla secrets" and "bio-rings") is trying his very best to obscure the whole issue because I exposed him as well and put a stop to his spam/plugging his website
as with sheepdog/billder-
*THEY NEVER POSTED AT THE SAME TIME*
they forgot to keep playing the other person because they were distracted by the attack/attention of the other persona
Sheepdog and Billder have never posted at the same time either - never *talked to eachother* like two separate people normally would
Also, with all the material I posted on Billder, *he's never responded AS Billder* - ever, not even one time..
Yet "sheepdog" has exploded on me *several times* when I even *hinted* at Billder without even saying his name directly
There's never been a time when "sheepdog" and Bill had any dialogue at all but "sheepdog" *speaks for and defends* Bill - vigorously !
While Bill himself is completely mute
( readers note that the picture above is varified by the wayback machine as being Bill)
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by Hex
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 4:55 AM
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what do we have here - Russia's official state newspaper ADMITTING they sold nukes to Iran
NAWWWW - that's not credible, just ask Ferrous Cranus - his source is MUCH better than that !
And *what is his source* you might ask ?
NONE AT ALL
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by Pity
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 4:55 AM
You don't even see just how unbalanced you come off as being. I'm not worried about you, however. You should be. :>) But other than the typical side tracking smashy tactic, you still need to provide some kind of authority about these 'nukes' you keep babbling about with your precious data mining. And visual aids ( chuckle)
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by Why don't you post a link?
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 4:57 AM
So the curious reader can see for them selves... :>)
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by Hex
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 5:03 AM
here it is YET AGAIN - http://english.pravda.ru/world/ussr/22-03-2005/7927-0 you give denseness a new meaning
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 5:03 AM
They will see some scrap dealer sold some old missiles 'capable' of carrying nukes. But such a major item as any nuclear package is not mentioned. Same stuff you have already brought up. Yer weak. Going to produce the many STRATFOR clones next?
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by Hex
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 5:13 AM
the screen capture -
"Ukraine admits selling strategic NUCLEAR missiles to China and Iran"
the link is RIGHT IN THE SCREEN CAP too - you didn't see that either, no, I HAD to post it AGAIN
and to think, before you claimed there was *no mention of nukes at all* !
then it became - well they're OLD ROTTEN NUKES that can't detonate
now it's "scrap" and - AGAIN - denying nukes at all
not to mention ALL THE OTHER LINKS I posted that AGREE
but as usual *you have nothing* to show otherwise - just YOU SAYING SO
wow that's some credible source - YOU SAYING SO
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by Chill...
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 5:16 AM
You need some quiet time for sure.
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 5:20 AM
Follow the link Whizz provided. Find the nukes. http://english.pravda.ru/world/ussr/22-03-2005/7927-0 Not the scrap, or a misleading header. ( oh no! not a misleading header!)
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by Hex
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 5:24 AM
then it must be true - after all, you're just chock full of
honesty
and while we're on the subject of me we're not on the subject of you
neat way to change the subject - "nuclear not mentioned", "old rotten nukes", "scrap", "no nukes"
maybe that thing is rusting on the inside
being as full of shit as you are, it's right up there where the metal is - shit rusts and corrodes metal after all
nice hole in the top for your - um - hair too
it suits you
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 5:26 AM
Don't you have some data mining to do? chuckle Wa wa..... :>)
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by Hex
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 10:21 AM
I was digging and suddenly hit metal - right on the top of your head (that's what the hole is where that fuzz matter sticks out - not sure what THAT is, maybe a scalar energy collector)
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by Hex
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 2:12 PM
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"All the missiles, which had been sold to China and Iran, were expired, the lawyer believes. In addition, Bogdan Ferenz is certain that the missiles had been stored under terrible conditions, which turned them into scrap metal."
nuclear material (either Uranium -235 or Plutonium -239) is the only part that matters, any and all other parts of the missles can be repaired or replaced
the warhead core doesn't go bad as no chemical process can destroy it
it's easy to make a nuclear bomb, all you have to do is have this material in a sphere that's dissected (cut into sections like an orange) surrounded by explosive charges
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by Hex
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 2:16 PM
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here it is as a jpeg
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by Da- Gospodean Fuckpuppet
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 3:16 PM
A B28 bomb. That's a bomb. Duh No mention of it in the link. Try again, Whizz.
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by Hex
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 3:51 PM
I posted it strictly as an example of how easy it is to make a nuke, once you have the Uranium or Plutonium the rest is easy..
they do
whether the warheads were ready to fire as-is or needed some maintenance isn't important, the point is they DID sell them to them, and they DO have them
your BS arguments are a waste of time - being ignorant/retarded/stupid isn't a viable position
and paranoia/warped thinking isn't substitute for knowledge - as much as you would like it to be
you don't even try to educate yourself, you live in a dull world with sunglasses on so you see only what you want to see, know only what you want to know
Ferrous Cranus is a perfect example of you - a deluded mental cripple living in his own dark narrow world
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 3:53 PM
Now now, smashy. Name calling is hardly a substitute for real information. :>)
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by Hex
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 4:21 PM
you're the one with the dark glasses and skullcap that posts nothing except retarded bleats of denial
wading though the delousing tank of ignorance you come out covered in it
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 4:31 PM
That's what you keep typing. Your precious data mining has produced questionable, unverified ( that means corroboration with 'other' sources) rumors... Get wild, smashy, give me another non STRATFOR source. I've already admitted I made some mistakes. :>)
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by Hex
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 4:36 PM
> I've already admitted I made some mistakes.
enumerate them
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 4:39 PM
I often miss keys when I type too fast. Many mistakes. :>(
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by Hex
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 4:53 PM
so it's floor-flushing time with Bonzo
nice
well at least that didn't require any thought or work which is typical - the 'ol shrinking reply game
your hallmark
when information you are in denial about is posted you start out on a rant with somewheres close to a normal refutal (except completely lacking in supporting data - just your ignorant opinions)
then as more info is posted to show how full of shit you are, your replies start getting smaller & smaller until you end up posting just a sentence
then even that gets out of context - degrades into a little word game like the above
wow dang my brain is cooking inside my skullcap
my mind is going - I can feel it
i caan feeel iit
stopp daave
wiil youu stoppp daaave
Daisy Daisy, Give me your answer do! I'm half crazy, All for the love of you!
It won't be a stylish marriage, I can't afford a carriage,
But you'll look sweet on the seat
Of a bicycle built for two !
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 4:56 PM
Ahem... You're disassembling again, smashy. Take some quiet time and come on back.
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by Hex
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 5:03 PM
I was making fun of you
I guess you missed it
and this thing about smash-the-left
it appears you two had a "thing" going on sf-imc, until nester decided to squash it
so you miss him
aw - isn't that sweet
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 5:19 PM
Still no fact checkable, data ( except for your 'raw' data [ look up the term, dear readers ] from questionable incomplete [ again, reader, feel free to pursue links mentioned by 'Hex'] sources) all in order for this apparently important piece of disinformation. To further your stealth agenda by fostering the rumor of nuclear weapons that only * you* ( oh, and of course, STRATFOR ) seem to be confident that "Syria & Iran have any nuclear weapons.
funny you never mention the Israeli Nukes. Upon which the real danger lies, Mr. Self Proclaimed 'anti-zionist'.
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by Hex
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 5:58 PM
I never promised you a rose garden
Along with the sunshine
There's gotta be a little rain sometime
I could promise you things like big diamond rings
But you don't find roses growin' on stalks of clover
so you'd better think it over
When it's sweet talking you could make it come true
I would give you the world right now on a silver platter
but what would it matter
So smile for a while and let's be jolly love shouldn't be so melancholy
Come along and share the good times while we can
I beg you pardon
I never promised you a rose garden
I could sing you a tune and promise you the moon But if that's what it takes to hold you I'd just as soon let you go
But there's one thing I want you to know
You better look before you leap still water runs deep
And there won't always be someone there to pull you out
And you know what I'm talking about So smile for a while and let's be jolly love shouldn't be so melancholy
Come along and share the good times while we can
I beg you pardon I never promised you a rose garden
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by Hex
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 6:14 PM
I'm his personal congressional aide - his little buttboy with nothing better to do than fetch his every whim to his complete satisfaction
"so there is no pleasing you, is there"
while he sits on his laurels expending no effort whatsoever, and only criticizes based on his narrow-minded views *from* being lazy and not doing any googling in the first place
I only post as much as I do because I feel sorry for him hoping maybe he'll see the light, or at least see a glimmer of what he's missing
even this becomes "agent scripts" as paranoia has the final answer to every question
paranoia of course *also* requires no effort, no research, no thought
being paranoid is easy - anyone can do it no matter how dumb and lazy they are, and it's the perfect shield, providing a complete defense from any and all disturbing thoughts or ideas that might creep in
no matter what the source, no matter who the person, paranoia defeats all
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Mar. 11, 2006 at 6:51 PM
Are you *still* blithering? Just the facts 'mam. :>)
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