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SATURDAY, JANUARY 7, AT 7:30 A.M.

In a massive response to racist persecution of migrants, racial profiling and worker oppression, counterprotestors will be rallying to oppose Minutemen protests at four Southern California day labor locations California on Saturday morning, January 7 at 7:30 a.m.

Minutemen groups and their supporters in Southern California will be protesting at day labor centers on that day as part of their nationwide protest to "stop the invasion." They have notified the media of their plans.

All good people who support the right of workers to work and who oppose targeting people based on their ethnicity are asked to join one of the counter protests below. Get there early, and brings signs, noisemakers, and an attitude for justice!

Location: RANCHO CUCAMONGA ARROW AND GROVE MARKET
8118 Arrow Route. I-10 to Vineyard N, left on Vineyard (1.7 mi.), left on Arrow Rte. (0.5 mi.)
Time: 7:30- 9:30 a.m.

Location: LAGUNA BEACH DAY LABOR CENTER
1765 Laguna Canyon Rd.  I-5 to CA 133S (9 mi., becomes Laguna Canyon Rd.)
Time: 8:00-11:00 a.m.

Location: LAKE FOREST GANAHL LUMBER
El Toro and Jeronimo Roads.  I-5 to El Toro Rd., left on El Toro to Jeronimo (1.4 mi)
Time: 8:00-11:00 a.m.

Location: GLENDALE HOME DEPOT
5040 San Fernando Rd.  I-5 to Colorado East, turn right on San Fernando Rd. (0.5 mi)
Time: 8:00-11:00 a.m.

Remember that jaywalking, littering, and bullhorns can get you busted, depending on locale--and that Minutemen sometimes claim to carry tasers and pepper spray.

When Costa Mesa arrests a person for asking people to stand, then enough is enough.

When the minuteklan call for a nationwide attack on day laborers--guys who stand around asking for a day's work--then enough is enough.

When the U.S. Border Patrol SHOOTS four people, KILLING TWO since October of this year (and God knows how many die in the desert trying to evade the shooters), enough is enough.

For almost two hundred years, white racists in California have been busting to do their white thing--genociding people who aren't white. Arresting Brown people, depriving them of the means to food and shelter, killing them--that's genocide.

All in the name of protecting their (white) nation.

A handful of deaths allowed today is permission to kill a thousand tomorrow.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Stand up on Saturday.

//When Costa Mesa arrests a person for asking people to stand, then enough is enough.\

Were you there, Leslie? Sorry, we must have missed the chance to chat.

If you were not there, it i s best you don't comment, or react to hearsay.

At any rate, take it up with Costa Mesa City Hall.

//When the minuteklan call for a nationwide attack on day laborers--guys who stand around asking for a day's work--then enough is enough. \

The Minutemen are standing against, our governments failure to control immigration, of all aliens.

//When the U.S. Border Patrol SHOOTS four people, KILLING TWO since October of this year\

The USBP use a .45 cal weapon (almost 1/2" diameter hole going in), that packs a punch, survival is rare.

// (and God knows how many die in the desert trying to evade the shooters), enough is enough.\

Operation Gatekeeper, was designed to discourage illegal immigration. The Mexican Government has failed to educate their people to not go walking in the desert, during summer. people ho walk through desert, in summer, deserve to die for their stupidity. That's called "Natural Selection", which BTW was from Darwin.

//For almost two hundred years, white racists in California have been busting to do their white thing--genociding people who aren't white. Arresting Brown people, depriving them of the means to food and shelter, killing them--that's genocide. //

So, you went back, to what, 1848, until today, and took the whole bucket full of complaints, and want to discuss it now?

Sorry, but I'll only answer for my actions since 1954.

//All in the name of protecting their (white) nation. \

All in the name of the United States of America.

Love it, or leave it.

Find, then we need to send all of these illegal crackers who came to this country as undocumented caucasoids, capable of genocidal murder, out of the U.S.
Or, if you can't hang with the new immigrant population, get the f#4k out. There's plenty of room for racist crackers in Australia and even Sweden, where some of you dumbassess might learn that socialism isn't such a bad thing when it benefits crackers.

BR--

Do you realize how much you rely on the state to back you up? Costa Mesa City Council, the BP, Operation Gatekeeper . . . . What if the state is WRONG? What if its purpose is to protect white people and white values?

Do you really believe the U.S. government should be shooting people who pose no immediate threat to person or property? How would you feel about your local cops shooting somebody in your neighborhood because they suspected them of being "illegal." There's no substantive difference--especially in Costa Mesa, it seems. If the Border Patrol can do it, so can the Costa Mesa cops.

Did you know Sensenbrenner, the author of that atrocity called an immigration bill making its way through Congress, came up with a new visa, the E-3, that is the first specific to a nationality--10,500 Australians. He made sure that went through in May, so he could shut down immigrants from south of the Rio Bravo and still get those Aussies in.

And who the hell are you to be deciding which _citizens_, now, should live the in the U.S., and what we should and shouldn't talk about? I should "love it or leave it"? You've been a minuteman too long, BR. I don't love it, I'm not leaving, and you don't get to decide for me.

And you call me a racist.

Sorry, I can't go. My family depends on me. I'm the anchor baby.

Oh, and the "anti-immigrant nazis molest their children". I infer from that, you may have been molested as a child. Seek counseling.

But, wait, before I go, were you the guy wearing the black shirt with "Mexica Movement" on it?

Also, when de white people leave dis continent, we will leave it like we discovered it, 'cept, it will glow in de dark.

:)

Look at the website!

Leslie, that's why I pay taxes and vote, but I also own guns, just in case.

"What if the state is WRONG?"

What if the state is correct?

"Do you really believe the U.S. government should be shooting people who pose no immediate threat to person or property?"

I missed a news article, could you refresh my memory. Did the US military or an agency shoot someone -- well yeah, make a list? There was the FBI Ruby Ridge/ Randy Weaver shooting and Waco. got any more?

"How would you feel about your local cops shooting somebody in your neighborhood because they suspected them of being "illegal.""

That wouldn't happen in my neighborhood, because we know who is "illegal", so we don't need to suspect anyone. The illegals are all standing in front of the Home Depot.

But seriously, cops shoot, when threatened. Be cool, and don't make a stupid move.

"There's no substantive difference--especially in Costa Mesa, it seems. If the Border Patrol can do it, so can the Costa Mesa cops."

Well, as of last night the CMPD is innocent, to the best of my knowledge. Who wants to be first to test that statistic?

"Did you know Sensenbrenner, the author of that atrocity called an immigration bill making its way through Congress, came up with a new visa, the E-3, that is the first specific to a nationality--10,500 Australians. He made sure that went through in May, so he could shut down immigrants from south of the Rio Bravo and still get those Aussies in."

Hmmm, You are correct, "Australian", is a "nationality, not a "race". But, it's about time. I mean, how long have we allowed total ignorance of our borders and immigration laws, by all of the millions, of people from Mexico, Central/South America, who have invaded this nation?

BTW -- 10, 500, is about 1/1,000th of to 10,000,000.

Ok, I can't find the stay limit for E-3 visa, but see this URL...
http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/tempbenefits/TempWorker.htm

Also, please look at the Current Cap Count for Non-Immigrant Worker Visas
http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/tempbenefits/cap.htm

BTW -- I'm sure you're going to love the new passports and IDs which are coming out, that will have RFID imbedded in them, so the Fed's will know which toilet seat you are occupying, at the McDonald's, at 607 G Street, Anytown, CA, USA.

"And who the hell are you to be deciding which _citizens_, now, should live the in the U.S.," and what we should and shouldn't talk about?"

Ok, Umm, about last night. It got a bit wild. People tend to get emotional, when they see a friend, relative, or loved one, getting tackled to the ground and arrested by the police -- who are doing their job.

So, tactfully, I requested everyone who was there, and those who were not there to calm down and refrain from saying/doing stupid things, which may only make the case erode, or worse.

Can we, let the process, move to the lawyers offices, and the court system?

Coyotl "Coyo", has rights, and last night, his rights were challenged. If he and his lawyers can prove his case, then let them proceed, in that process.

"I should "love it or leave it"?

Yup, My way or the highway.

"You've been a minuteman too long, BR."

About a year.

"I don't love it, I'm not leaving, and you don't get to decide for me."

America, rules by the vote or by the gun, and the majority usually wins.

Love ya,

BR

authorizing the to arrest anyone on the premesis who is not
conducting business or a guest of the property owner.

See the OC Sheriff web site for recent arrests at the day labor location.

I understand that, loud and clear. I wanted to speak at a Lake Forest city council meeting and suggest they move the entire day labor situation somewhere else so it doesn't disrupt any businesses and interferes with their parking lots. It doesn't necessarily have to be a tax funded day labor center like the one in Laguna Beach, but a solution that can be reached for now.

Lupe Moreno is calling herself "Mimbreno" here on LA Indymedia. She claims to be Apache, you know.

What she is, in any case, is the moral equivalent of a
hang -around - the - fort sell out, and worse. She is a childish, whining, hate filled creature, as evidenced by the "quality" of her posts here - and not a fit representative of the Mimbreno Apache Band.

If in fact she is Apache - and I see no reason to dispute her claim on its face - then she would have been one of the Apaches riding with Crook, Miles and Gatewood to hunt Geronimo down.

She is certainly no Lozen, however she might fancy herself.

She has taken the side of those who now keep Geronimo's skull - having stolen it as a cannibalistic trophy of war.

In the meantime, she paints other people of Native descent as "savages," and adores her white conqueror.

Just another day in Indian Country.

Lupe;

You know nothing of history or cultural reality.

A majority of Mexicans as Uto - Aztecans and the descendants of Uto _Aztecans.

The Uto Aztecan groups include the Tongva, Serrano, Tataviam, Kitanemuk, Luiseno (Natives groups of LA area) Cahuilla, Hopi, Paiute, Mono, Comanche, Shoshone, Ute, Kiowa, Tohona O'odham, Tubatulabal, Ra-Ram-Uri (Tarahumara), Yaqui, Huichol, Cora, Azteca (Mexica), Pipil, Huichol, Panamint, Tepecano, Guarijío, Yaqui-Mayo, and the extinct languages Tubar, Eudeve, Pochutec and Ópata.

The Uto-Aztecan Peoples were one of the largest language groups of Native America at the time of European contact in terms of population, linguistic diversity and geographic distribution. The northernmost Uto-Aztecan language, Northern Paiute, is found as far north as Oregon and Idaho. In the south, members of the Nahuatl family are spoken as far south as Nicaragua and El Salvador. The most famous of these is Classical Nahuatl, the language of the Aztec People of central Mexico.

The Place of Origin of this vast array of Peoples was, according to the linguists, IN THE US - at the southern border between Arizona and New Mexico.

Our Peoples have been here for 30 THOUSAND YEARS - at a minimum.

Not 150 - THIRTY THOUSAND.

To try the spin that we're not Native because we speak Spanish now is ridiculous - we are as much Native Americans as an African who speaks French is African - NOT French.

If Mexicans stole anything from Apaches it was under the rule and influence of Europeans - exactly the rule and influence you promote .

I have had enuff also...

When I have to almost go out of biz, a biz that I struggled to get going by sleeping on the floor, staying up till 3 am to pay the overhead and insurance on, by illegal aliens that come here and steal my customers & and not have to pay the same overhead I do becuzz they are on the road illegally... all while they laff in my face and flip me off...

It is ENUFF

When my very liveyhood is threatened, one that I have worked on for years and years by those that cut in line to come here, then set up shop illegally, pay no insurance, there by putting peoples futures in danger, all in the name of open borders and 'just trying to better themselves and their families...

It is ENUFF

When I try to compete legally, pay my insurance and overhead, and then get driven out of biz by those that come here and with no ethics operate in a way that is unfair and immoral...

It is ENUFF

When I am told that they are doing the jobs American's will not do when I know full well that there are more of them on the road at times than us, and they are chocking the very life out of my industry, an industry that I help keep clean and safe, while they DO NOT by not even having insurance, I say...

YOU TRY FEEDING YOUR FAMILY ON A 1980 PAYCHECK ! All becuzz thousands of people are allowed to operate illegally while I am forced to tow the line or I am a bad person ???

The hypocrisy is sickening Leslie Radford. I wish for ONE LOUSY DAY you had to walk in my shoes. But, you do not, becuzz you attach yourself to the state and suck off the peoples money, no ? Your existence is not threatened by them, you can say the things you say.

You try explaining to your family why you can not buy them the very things they need so badly. YOU try going to the store knowing you do not have enuff for both food AND shelter this month becuzz of illegal aliens with no overhead killing you, and there is nothing you can do about it all becuzz the gov turns a deaf ear. YOU try sleeping on the floor, turning off your heat at night becuzz the bill is too high, going to sleep under a bridge becuzz you are too tired to make it safely home since you worked so hard and long...waking up to the sunlight and not even knowing where you are...all becuzz you can not compete against those that operate unethically...knowing that they are illegal aliens...'good people' that flip you off and laff at you becuzz they know they are driviing you off the land....LITERALLY.

Go ahead, tell me to get another biz, and that is the way life is, like others on your side have so calously told me to do...elitist nonsense...the very elitism you so handly scream at, YOU are guilty of.

So tell me, can you truly say that I have no case for wanting this insanity put in check, and a sane graduated immigration policy inacted ?

Typos abound, for I have not the time to preview and correct anything.

Oh, and a note to all you SOS/MMPers....you sure are spending a lot of time here. Hope you are getting the uslessness of speaking with these folks out of your system.

Point taken Don Silva and it looks like emotions are getting intensified at this time. Obviously from the Costa Mesa city council meeting and maybe from watching clips on WatchDog's website as well.

Things could get more heated this Saturday. If we're gonna do what we're gonna do this Saturday, I suggest we remember what Kenneth Kelly suggested at the city council meeting. To take a deep breath. I don't even know if I'm gonna do anything this Saturday. With multiple dueling protests I may decide not to take part in this with the same feeling I had when I decided to no longer have a part in the behavior conducted by SOS/Gilchrist members in Lake Forest on November 12th, 2005.

Nov. 12th, 2005 is referring to the date of the mentioned behavior. My decision was more of a series of experiences and a process that involved a lot of thinking and letting certain things go like secondhand anger, assumptions, being a follower to feel needed, things like that.

Secondhand anger is just a term I use refering to the idea of someone with a genuine anger speaking at a meeting(like CCIR) or in some other occasion, resulting in the growth of anger in the listeners. The anger of the listeners aren't from the experience of the speaker, a speaker who may or may not have certain motives, but from listening and thinking they need to be angry too.

The anger could be conditioned with other feelings and ideas like paranoia, fear, belief, conclusions and decisions based on trust in the speaker/leader, and feeling a need to fit in for protection or the perception of protection.

One of the groups participating in the MinuteKlan Nationalist Day of "protest" is THE CONFEDERACY OF TEXAS.

Of course Jim Gilchrist runs for office with the party of the arch-racist, segregationist, former governor George Wallace's American Independent Party;

And there is no end to the Nazi hangers on with SOS;

And CCIR is listed with the Southern Poverty Law Center as Hate Group;

... In the 60's the Minutemen were and extreme right wing terrorist group (Imagine if we called ourselve the Weather Underground!) ...

The first Border watch was the Klan Border Watch led by KKK leader Louis Beam...

And this whole thing is an outgrowth of the Militia Movement - OYE - Can you spell Oklahoma City?!

Sure you can, Patriot.

BorderNazi:



Which is why you need to be STOPPED right F-ING NOW you racist! Your white supremacist SUICIDAL FANTASTIES are the GREATEST threat not only to the people of North America but also to the survival of life itself on the ENTIRE PLANET! I know you're not joking when you infer that your side WOULD resort to a nuclear holocaust if you found yourself losing out to people you consider inferior. But get it through your fat head that a NUCLEAR WAR would mean the end of white people as well!
BorderNazi, you are NOT living in a Wagnerian opera, what the f*ck is wrong with you!!!

>>>Oh, and a note to all you SOS/MMPers....you sure are spending a lot of time here. Hope you are getting the uslessness of speaking with these folks out of your system.<<<

Well you sure haven't Donnie. You've been posting here for months and it's obvious that you're need for constant attention just won't let you give it up. I dare you to stop posting here.

SOS are all bent out of shape that "their" women are in danger from counterprotestors on Saturday.
http://www.saveourstate.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=6861

Someday I'm gonna post here about how sexist they are. Same old game: gotta have "their" women, and gotta control women of color--"anchor babies," "overpopulation," and all that Mexican-men-can't-make-their-women-behave crap. Ever notice how MM "brag" ("I can't be racist, my wife is Ecuadoran") about their Latina wives, but no one ever mentions their Latino husbands over there?

Until then, I urge all women who AREN'T afraid of MM/SOS, who can take care of themselves and look out for others in the group, who understand the xenophobia of the attacks on men and women immigrants, to COUNTERPROTEST the Minutemen someplace on Saturday. With or without "our" men to "protect" us.

PRESS RELEASE

For: Saturday, January 7, 2006
Contact: Chris Newman, Legal Program Coordinator, National Day Laborer Organizing Network (NDLON)
Phone: (323) 717-5310 Email: newman@ndlon.org

NATIONAL DAY LABORER COMMUNITY RESPONDS TO VIGILANTE ATTACKS!

Day workers across the country will peacefully respond to coordinated vigilante actions organized by Connecticut Citizens for Immigration Control and local cells of the so-called “Minutemen.”

The recent wave of attacks is nothing new to the day worker community. Throughout 2005, similar attempts to incite violence and generate chaos against day laborers were experienced in Phoenix, AZ., Herndon, VA, and elsewhere. In Redondo Beach, CA, Joseph Turner, founder of Save Our State, encouraged members of his group to bring baseball bats, noting “if we're lucky, we're gonna need them.”**

“History inevitably judges and condemns efforts like these to scapegoat those with the least among us as shameful, regrettable, and immoral,” said Pablo Alvarado, National Coordinator of NDLON. “In contrast, the dignified response of disenfranchised communities against this type of mistreatment always serves as an example to us all.” Within this spirit, day workers respond with exemplary peaceful, dignified, and respectful actions while reaffirming and redeeming the legacy of the real Patriots who came to this country in search of a better life and to build a more perfect Union.

The actions of vigilantes are motivated by, and an inspiration to, hate groups and white supremacists concerned about the changing demographics in our communities. At a recent event in Herndon, VA, a man “patrolled” a day labor corner with a t-shirt that said White Pride. “Under no circumstances can vigilante action be accepted in a civil society,” said Salvador Reza, Executive Director of Tonatierra in Phoenix, AZ. “It is our obligation to shine light on their dark motives” Reza added.

The white supremacist movement has been behind anti-immigrant efforts throughout its history. Over 25 years ago, Imperial Wizard, David Duke, launched the Klan Border Watch with the intention of stretching their patrols from California to Texas and revive the Klan's days of glory. Saturday's protest represents a realization of his vision. This is the real face of the anti-day laborer/anti-immigrant movement.

The national day laborer community advocates for true immigration reform and constructive solutions to local issues. According to Grace Heyman, Director of the Westchester Hispanic Coalition in New York, “Any proposal for true immigration reform in Washington D.C. must start by recognizing the fact that 12 million people deserve permanent residency and a path to citizenship and political equality. Any other approach is fantastically unrealistic. Whether these vigilantes like it or not, this country needs its immigrant workforce.”

According to the Pew Hispanic Center, 4.3% of the civilian work force is comprised of unauthorized workers, with disproportionately high densities of representation in low skill, labor intensive industries like construction, agriculture, and home care. A very small but vocal minority has clearly seized upon concerns related to failed immigration policy in order to advance a pernicious, xenophobic agenda. The irony is, of course, the effect of not only making comprehensive immigration reform less likely, but also of making our country a less attractive place for us all to live in peace and harmony.

Blaming migrant workers for failed immigration policy is like blaming the miner for the dangerous conditions of the mine. These groups are quite literally terrorizing day laborers and our neighborhoods. It is absurd. The people they label 'invaders' are the very people building our homes, serving our food, and feeding our kids. They're our neighbors.”

Wherever militia and paramilitary actions target day workers they will defend themselves with peaceful, non-violent resistance. In each instance, the day laborers will:

1. Monitor, photograph and film the Minutemen and similar groups in order to document and prevent violence and hate crimes. Day laborers, allies and friends will also demonstrate to counteract the actions and messages of such groups.

2. Defend the street corners and work centers where day laborers congregate to solicit employment in order to feed themselves and their loved ones.

3. Denounce the xenophobia and racism promoted by the vigilantes and their supporters.

4. Send and unequivocal message: There is no space for hatred, prejudice, violence and provocation in our neighborhoods.

5. Honor the men and women, children and elders, who have lost their lives while migrating to this country in their quest for a better future; and

6. Send a message of peace and reconciliation to those groups that hate Immigrants. The day laborers don't lodge hatred or bigotry in their hearts and minds. In this sense, the sentiment is not mutual.

NDLON was officially founded in 2001 and is composed of 30 community-based organizations that work with day laborers in different capacities. NDLON's mission is to advance the human, labor, and civil rights of day workers throughout the United States and to strengthen and expand the work of local day laborer organizing groups, in order to become more effective and strategic in building leadership, advancing low-wage worker and immigrant rights, and developing successful models for organizing immigrant contingent/temporary workers.

###
_________________________________________
Arnoldo Garcia
National Network for Immigrant and Refugee Rights
Red Nacional Pro Derechos Inmigrantes y Refugiados
310 8th Street Suite 303
Oakland, CA 94607
Tel (510) 465-1984 ext. 305
Fax (510) 465-1885
http://www.nnirr.org

"SOS are all bent out of shape that "their" women are in danger from counterprotestors on Saturday."

It's funny that Jim Gilchrist was telling me to not stalk his women or I could get a restraining order. I've done nothing of that sort. Infact at the Costa Mesa city council protest event, when I was across the road and walking towards an intersection, a female Gilchrist supporter was walking after me. I wasn't sure if she was following me, but she turned another direction. I was walking away from her, even avoiding her as well as going back to my vehicle for another pen to write with.

I walked through the parking lot at one point and came out onto the sidewalk. Gilchrist was right there. I stopped, turned around probably looking comical at that moment, and walked back where I came from.

Santa Monica – West Los Angeles
Time 9 – 11 AM (See note on staging and free parking at Santa Monica Memorial Part at 8:00 AM)
Where Across the Street from Bourget Brothers Hardware, 1636 11th Street between Olympic and Colorado
Contact Tony Dolz, Email tony@dolz.com URL: www.dolz.com
Comments: Over 100 illegals daily, more on weekends. IMPORTANT 1 Parking tight. Staging and Free Parking at Memorial Park, 14th Street between Olympic and Colorado 8:00 AM IMPORTANT 2 . Meet at Memorial Park FIRST at 8:00 AM.


El Cajon
Time 7:00 – 9:30
Where 965 Arnele Ave., El Cajon – Home Depot
Contact DRussell9@aol.com – Dan 619-838-5758
Comments
Counter protesters are gearing up:

There is no higher form of racism than to defend and support the criminal actions of others because they share your race.

Hispanics that support illegal immigration because most illegal immigrants are Hispanic are racists.

Stop the Racism! Stop supporting law breakers because they share your skin color!

Interesting the white nationalist, Stormfront going to recuit at this event. Border Raven hears your chance to join!


Stormfront: Stop the Invasion.
Go to numbersusa, FAIR, Projectusa, the minuteman project, etc.for info. Rallys will be held all over this coming weekend. Great place to recruit. Thanks

Yes, the White Nationalists see a real opportunity here. With so many racist pro-illegal alien supporters on the streets they hope to gain strength.

Who knows? Their ranks may be growing rapidly in response to your open hostility, violence, and racist chants at these "counter protests".

Do you have any idea what mainstream America thinks of you when they see and hear your hate spit out on the streets?

You've awoken the beast. The American public has awakened. Their eyes and ears are upon you and they are seeing hate in your eyes and racism upon your tongues.

You may see the begining of large scale arrests of illegal aliens starting this Sat.

Did it ever occur to any of you that there might be a reason there are anti-illegal immigration rallies happening in over 20 states on the same day?

You ever notice it is Indy Media always knows what is on Stormfornt and always posts links.

Isn't it funny how they can always locate the most obsure posts, almost as if El Chivo posted it himself.

Ever notive how they never comment on the fact there were more Nazis with CIndt Sheehan than Jim Gilchrist?

Isn't it odd that Indy posters have an astonishing collection of vintage KKK photos? You would think you would have to work for the Feds to have pictures like the ones they post.

Daisy, ever heard of Google Photos?

Sorry, I can't make it to the rallies, this Satuday. I'll be escorting Prussian Blue at Disneyland.

maybe next time.

Talk about breaking laws.

If the illegals, who are seeking work as day laborers, hadn't broken our immigration laws, their acts of participating, in the underground economy, is breaking many laws, and encouraging total lawlessness and greed, in employment and business practices.

Let's try to list the effects of an unregualted underground economy, and then, identify the victims, losers, and winners, or those who get richer.

List of crimes:
[sorry for any duplication or overlap]

organized crime
gang activities
drug trafficking
human trafficking
criminal profiteering
fraud
payroll tax fraud
insurance fraud
payroll taxes evasion
evading employee benefits
lack of safety equipment and training
unsafe working conditions.
unreported employees
unreported cash pay
unreported/unpaid payroll tax deductions
no workers’ compensation insurance coverage
child labor and child slavery and child sex slavery
unlicensed contractors
underpayment of wages
no health coverage
no dental coverage
no family benefits
overbilling the customers

Ok, now you tell me, who wins, loses, gets rich.

The day laborer?
The young adult, looking for a job?
The 25 year old, divorcee?
The 40 veteran, who retires from the military?
The state?
The federal government?
The employer?
Anybody else?

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And they call us racists?
BTW -- when are you all going to get off the BS, and get on the problem solving?

I can do more with 10 people doing surveillance, at a site, than 200 protesters can do, with signs and noisemakers, outside of a Home Depot.

Someone could have planted a call for recruitment at Stormfront. But see how many replies there are by established members there.

This Saturday, get your digital cameras and camcorders. Review the photos of past events involving any Nazis, National Vanguard/Alliance members, etc and know the faces. If you see any recruitment efforts, document it. If you see anyone accept materials, document it but don't come to conclusions yet. This may be interesting or this aspect may infact be a dud.

Check out this link where Gilchrist says Cliff/Jammer CC made racist comments about Lupe Moreno n Francisco Jorge while he was working for hm.

http://www.saveourstate.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=6855

Ohhhhhh, Cliffy, you gottalotta splainnning to do! : /

Did everyone hear about the Secret Service raid on La Voz De Aztan at www.aztlane.net ? Did you hear about the recent raids in NYC and San Fransisco? Did you see how fast the cops grabbed that illegal alien in Cosa Mesa?

Don't your instincts tell you what is about to start tomorrow on Sat Jan 7?

The setup in play is the begining of something big. Bush has to show he will deport.

Make sure you bring all of your illegal alien friends to teh protests.

Already been done. But I won't bother doing it at the SOS board. Here: http://la.indymedia.org/news/2006/01/143446.php

as of noon fri Jan 6 SOS/Nazis plan to appear at the Home Dept Alhambra

tentatively scheduled for Jan 7 OR 8

I suspect Jan 7 at 8 AM

stay tuned

We need one of our moles to confirm or deny this...

I think it's only distraction from going to glendale becasue SOS knows they got there butt whipped and spanked.

This pic was from Alhambra. look at this skinhead crying to his mommie.

The SOS announcement smells. Read if for yourself at http://www.saveourstate.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=6891&pid=66624&st=0&#entry66624.
MAYBE they'll be there on Sunday, but I don't think so.

Start at Glendale. Make a friend there if you need to carpool. It's 20 minutes to Alhambra. Take the directions below with you.

Glendale HD to Alhambra HD directions.
I-5S to N. Broadway. Left on N. Broadway to Mission Rd. (1.3 mi). Left on N Mission Rd to W. Main St. (2.8 mi, Mission Rd. becomes N. Huntington). Right onto W. Main St. (1.0 mi). Right to S. Marengo (0.4 mi).

A notice just went up with two more MM sites: Santa Monica and El Cajon. Check it out at http://la.indymedia.org/news/2006/01/143554.php.

This one looks genuine--much like the first announcement. If you are thinking about going to Santa Monica or El Cajon, go there but take the directions to the other sites with you. If nothing's happening, you can head off to your second choice.

See you tomorrow!

This is the same guy who is a skinhead and a SOS member as well.

I will go to Almabra first. The organizer lives there, no one lives in Glendale!

My friend in SGVN got the inside on Alhambra. Its at 9 AM and goes for 3 hours at the same Home Depot as last time! dont let the SOS get away with being without us confronting them!

Japanese Film Crew? Please that is BS none of this posted.
Where are the links?

For More Info:

Call 626-289-3573 for information or e-mail sgvneighbors@yahoo.com

Neighbors For Peace and Justice

If you read the comments on the SOS forum it's completely obvious that the "Alhambra Protest" is a diversionary tactic.

These SOS types are dull - the writing is sooooo stilted on all the posts on the "Alhambra Protest" that it is obviously staged.

Whatever they do and wherever they go, we'll be there, don't worry about it.

There are solid lines of communication established on the pro-migrant side, and no diversion can work.

IGNORE this thing about Alhambra. Go to Glendale if you're up that way.

IF - and it is a HUGE if - they go to Alhambra, we'll know, and we'll give 'em all the company they want, and then some.

Print Out and Take These Directions With You -

All good people who support the right of workers to work and who oppose targeting people based on their ethnicity are asked to join one of the counter protests below. Contact will be maintained among counterprotestors at all locations, so we can move quickly if necessary. Get there early, and brings cameras, signs, noisemakers, and an attitude for justice!

Location: SANTA MONICA BOURGET BROTHERS HARDWARE
1636 11th Street between Olympic and Colorado. I-10 to exit 1B (CA1S/Lincoln Blvd). Lincoln N to Colorado (0.2 mi.), right on 11th (0.1 mi).
Time: 9:00-11:00 a.m.
Note: Parking is a problem Free parking at Memorial Park, 14th Street between Olympic and Colorado, but the Minutemen are meeting in that lot at 8:00 a.m.

Location: EL CAJON HOME DEPOT
965 Arnele Ave, El Cajon. I-8 (2.5 mi) to CA 125S (2.6 mi.) to CA 94. Exit (8.7 mi) on left of CA 94 to F St. Right on 9th Ave. (0.4 mi).
Time: 7:00-9:30 a.m.

Location: LAKE FOREST GANAHL LUMBER
El Toro and Jeronimo Roads. I-5 to El Toro Rd., left on El Toro to Jeronimo (1.4 mi)
Time: 8:00-11:00 a.m.

Location: RANCHO CUCAMONGA ARROW AND GROVE MARKET
8118 Arrow Route. I-10 to Vineyard N, left on Vineyard (1.7 mi.), left on Arrow Rte. (0.5 mi.)
Time: 7:30- 9:30 a.m.

Location: LAGUNA BEACH DAY LABOR CENTER
1765 Laguna Canyon Rd. I-5 to CA 133S (9 mi., becomes Laguna Canyon Rd.)
Time: 8:00-11:00 a.m.

Location: GLENDALE HOME DEPOT
5040 San Fernando Rd. I-5 to Colorado East, turn right on San Fernando Rd. (0.5 mi)
Time: 8:00-11:00 a.m.

Remember that jaywalking, littering, and bullhorns can get you busted, depending on locale--and that Minutemen sometimes claim to carry tasers and pepper spray.

I bet SOS is sending us all over the place and they are going to be in Alhambra.

On the 4th, a note was mailed to IMC about Alhambra. I did not know the sender, nor could I find the email address on google. Judge for yourself what this sounds like:

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Make sure you update your site!

I just got the inside scoop on what the SOS people are up to! Turns out the REAL rally is going to be at the Alhambra Home Depot that they had an earlier rally at! They dont think anyone will suspect they would go back there so they leaked out false information to make everyone think they will be at all these other locations!
A person calling himself ------(alias deleted)------ sent me this info. He managed to infiltrate the SOS and make friends and passed this info on to me! We need to put our resources into assembling at the Alhambra Home Depot this Saturday. I suggest we get there at 7 AM to give the SOSers a big surprise!

If i get any more info I will contact you!!

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I did not make the above post. Someone used my nickname.

You know me homies...you should have just asked!

Since when do we ever hit the same place over and over again ?

The location is moot at this time. Everyone who finds out and can get there wll end up carpooling to the final destination and arrive there within an hour.

Ultimately, when the site is discovered, the cell phone calls get made, and posts should be made to NON-INDYMEDIA sites. Put the genuine location on your private, well-known websites, and link them from an Indy article.

Don't trust the info on Indy newswire, because anyone can say anything here.

Trust the info on the center column more, because that's passworded and edited, but the most reliable info should come from movement sites less likely to have been studied by the haxors.

ALSO - remember that if you own a yahoo group, you can edit the group description and use that page to send info. There are many options.

Web edits can be done at "cyber cafes":
http://www.world66.com/world/northamerica/unitedstates/california/losangeles/internetcafes

Verify information by phone.

I just hid a couple of those because they used some general epithets against a group. Sorry if it messes up the flow here.

It doesn't matter where or what day.

We have people staking out positions all weekend.

These little "intel" games they are playing are really self-defeating if they want any serious media attention.

Either way, the word's gonna get out quickly.

And people will remain staked out at "empty" spots, making very regular checks just to make sure.

We're like the Borg.
Once one knows, all will know.

Above is another impersonation post.

>There is no higher form of racism than to defend and support the criminal actions of others because they share your race.

Boy, you have never been beaten up for being the "wrong" race, have you? What about losing friends because you're the "wrong" race? What about being hung because you're the "wrong" race, like Emmett Till was?

I'd say murder is a "higher form of racism."

Again, all locations - I mean ALL locations will be staked out in the morning, including some the Minutemen and SOS will not expect us to be aware of.

GO TO THE DESIGNATED SITES. EACH WILL BE ATTENDED BY RECOGNIZABLE ORGANIZATIONS.

A SOLID NETWORK OF COMMUNICATIONS AND SPOTTERS IS IN PLACE.

DON'T BE DISTRACTED.

IF WE ARE ALL IN THE DESIGNATED LOCATIONS WE WILL BE ABLE TO RE-DEPLOY IF NEEDED.

TOGETHER AND EN MASSE.

Oh look, Mommy! Yet another oh-so original never heard of before "day of action".

yawn....

As for Brainiac's comment about "murder is the highest form of racism", perhaps it, being just another hypocritical dime store hippie and self anointed champion of "human rights", can comment on the A.N.S.W.E.R. sewage propping up the Butcher of Baghdad. Or ignoring Mugabe.

There's plenty of examples of the lice farmers ignoring what they claim they're for. Sucking the prongs of terrorists is a priori, right?

sites. They are trying to divert from Gilchirst at the Mexican Consulate.

350 S Figueroa St # 296, Los Angeles, CA 90071

A man with a beard and a tall man possibly Don Silva and Luua Zanna have been spotted at the Alhmabra Home Depot waving an American Flag. Also large white woman with them

A group is gathering in Laguna Beach

Two of my friends just pulled up to home depot in Alhambra and saw some SOSers!