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by wcw
Thursday, Dec. 29, 2005 at 3:51 PM
http://www.worldcantwait.org
BUSH: STEP DOWN And Take Your Program With You! 1. Jan. 31, on The Night of President Bush’s State of the Union Address: Bring the Noise! Drown Out Bush’s Lies! In large cities and small towns all across the country, join in rallies one hour before Bush’s address as we make our determination to “Drive Out the Bush Regime” the political message of the day. At 9:00 PM EST, just as Bush starts to speak, everywhere we will BRING THE NOISE. In a cacophony of sound, we will drown out his address with music: from drums to violins, from hip hop and classical; and with noise: banging pots and ringing church bells, sound car horns and lifting our voices. 2. DEMONSTRATE on SATURDAY, FEB. 4 (following the State of the Union) Washington D.C. The Saturday after the State of the Union address, massive numbers will protest at the seat of government. Prominent voices of conscience will help deliver the people’s verdict on Bush’s criminal regime with our demand: Bush Step Down And Take Your Program with You! Start Organizing Now! Flier now available: click here to download. Find a rally in your city on Jan. 31, or organize one yourself. [click here] Read more... January 31 Convergences PDF Print E-mail Jan. 31, on The Night of President Bush’s State of the Union Address: Bring the Noise! Drown Out Bush’s Lies! In large cities and small towns all across the country, join in rallies one hour before Bush’s address as we make our determination to “Drive Out the Bush Regime” the political message of the day. At 9:00 PM EST, just as Bush starts to speak, everywhere we will BRING THE NOISE. In a cacophony of sound, we will drown out his address with music: from drums to violins, from hip hop and classical; and with noise: banging pots and ringing church bells, sound car horns and lifting our voices. To organize a rally in your area, email info@worldcantwait.org Beginning list of convergences accross the country (more to come): (all rallies begin at 8pm EST unless otherwise noted) California: LA: 5pm KTLA TV, Van Ness & Sunset Blvd. 6pm march to CNN, Cahuenga & Sunset Blvd. 7pm rally San Diego: Horton Plaza Fountain. Fourth and Broadway. 4:30pm Georgia: Atlanta: CNN Center Illinois: Chicago: 5pm Pioneer Plaza(Tribune Plaza) on N. Michigan Ave. near Chicago Tribune and NBC TV affiliate. Neigborhood Drownouts also planned. Michigan: Detroit: Fourth and Main, Royal Oak, MI Kalamazoo: The Ravenwood Coffee, 773 W. Michigan Ave. New Jersey: Bergen County: Van Neste Square in Ridgewood, NJ New York: NYC: Times Square, 42nd and Broadway Rhode Island: Westerley: March and demonstration downtown
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by Greg
Friday, Dec. 30, 2005 at 1:03 PM
Oh yeah, we're all just waiting for the usual "massive protests" that never seem to happen. Even when you manage a few losers at these "actions", they get hijacked by your little "black bloc" goons and turn into little nasty fits of vandalism. The world, it seems, CAN wait. Three more years, baby.
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by greg the ignorant cracker
Saturday, Dec. 31, 2005 at 9:50 AM
For anyone like bush who has their head up their ass for the last 4 years, and only sees CNN and FOX through the light of their belly button, it would seem that way, given the amount of denial of how much the antiwar movement has awakened this nation to things like torture, wiretapping, and the uselessness of dying over a bunch of lies. Granted that people have embarked on their own actions away from mass demonstrations and now must deal with the fact that the govt. has been monitoring the antiwar movement (gee, it must have been working and is working if the spooks give a shit), but the struggle continues and troop withdrawal is in sight. Thank an antiwar protestor, not the troops, for that.
Next., bush should be impeached, but 44% of Americans are so stupid, and congress is on crack, so it may not happen soon, but we could see a president impeached for an actual crime that resulted in the death of thousands, rather than one getting checked just for a blow job.
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by ok. protest
Friday, Jan. 13, 2006 at 6:38 AM
ok, if you want to hold your protest and bang on pots and shit, fine. But can you tell the dumbass, spolied white kids with too much time on their hands not to run around damaging people's property for no good reason. It's friggin annoying and it doesn't help your cause. It makes you guys look like disrespectful, immature assholes, and usually the people's property they damage are folks that scrape to get by. Having to replace windows and pay deductables doesn't help anyone. So please, take their weapons and give them rattles and pacifiers, and send them to an open field somewhere so they can smoke pot and whine about "freedom of speech" and wiretaps without senselessly damaging the property of working people.
Then general public, even leftists, hate these little immature punks, and you should too. They do irreversible damage to your cause.
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by daveman
Sunday, Jan. 15, 2006 at 11:12 AM
"In a cacophony of sound, we will drown out his address with music: from drums to violins, from hip hop and classical; and with noise: banging pots and ringing church bells, sound car horns and lifting our voices."
I see the Left's love of the First Amendment is alive and well.
Do you really not see how pathetic it is that you try to silence those with whom you disagree? Do you really think you're going to change anyone's mind with such childish antics? You may, at that. This kind of nonsense drives people to the GOP.
You kids just keep sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling "LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!". It's fun to watch, even though the only practical outcome is annoying people.
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by Amos
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 12:32 AM
Awesome that you guys are building on the sucess you had driving Bush out of power the first time. Maybe this time he'll actually notice you exist.
What I find so funny is that the infantile Left's Daddy complex is now so manefest that you're not even pretending anymore that your stupid antics amount to anything other than throwing a public tantrum in defiance of paternal authority figures.
He was elected, idiots. You trash couldn't win an election to save your lives because, despite your delusions that you represent 'the people', the people sincerely hate you.
Three more years, then you can enjoy eight years of Condoleeza Rice as president, ha ha ha!
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by johnk
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 2:10 AM
If you can't attack the message, you attack the messenger.
to: ok. protest
You're talking about the black block tactic, and only a specific few of them too. Few have ever done any vandalism. I've read nothing about them vandalizing working class communities -- only middle class shopping experiences. They're not spoiled white kids, at least not more than half of those I've seen.
to: daveman
It seems like you're metaphorically putting fingers to earholes and saying "LA LA LA LA."
to: Amos
I don't disagree with your analysis; however, if anyone has a Daddy complex, it's Bush.
Frankly, if the opposition to Bush were stronger, you'd see spontaneous protests in more places. These demonstrations would be more threatening, because some of them would get violent. People would be willing to take the risk, because they would feel that the community and police would look the other way.
Then, Congress would take notice and be willing to terminate this war.
----------------------------------------------- Here's an article about Shay's Rebellion, an American working class and middle class rebellion.
A wave of farm foreclosures in western Massachusetts swept the young republic to its first episode in class struggle. Demonstrators and rioters protested high taxation, the governor's high salary, high court costs and the assembly's refusal to issue paper money (an inflationary measure highly favored by the debtor class).
Opposition had coalesced around Daniel Shays, a Revolutionary War veteran, who headed an “army” of 1,000 men. They marched first for Worcester where they closed down the commonwealth's supreme court, then turned west to Springfield where they broke into the jail to free imprisoned debtors. The barns of some government officials were burned. Wealthy Bostonians, who feared the rebellion in the west, contributed money for soldiers under the command of General Benjamin Lincoln.
The rebels were routed in a skirmish in January 1787; Shays escaped to Vermont and was later pardoned. Others were not so fortunate; 150 were captured and several sentenced to death. George Washington and others urged compassionate treatment of the rebels and pardons were eventually granted.
It is interesting to note the role reversal of such people as Samuel Adams. In early revolutionary times, Adams was among the most vocal and radical critics of the existing government. By the 1780s, however, Adams had become an establishment figure and urged death sentences for the leading Shays’ rebels.
The next statewide election in Massachusetts altered the assembly's complexion and led to passage of a number of measures designed to improve the farmers' conditions. However, conservative forces was deeply disturbed by the anarchy in the west and became increasingly committed to strengthening the central government.
www.u-s-history.com/pages/h363.html
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by johnk
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 2:14 AM
http://www.shaysnet.com/dshays.html Shays' Rebellion Daniel Shays (1747?-1825, born Hopkinton, MA), a former Revolutionary Army captain, led a rebellion by farmers against unsettled economic conditions and against politicians and laws which were grossly unfair to farmers and working people in general. They protested against excessive taxes on property, polling taxes which preented the poor from voting, unfair actions by the court of common pleas, the high cost of lawsuits, and the lack of a stable currency. They rallied for the government issue of paper money, since at the time there were a variety of paper monies in circulation, but not much was honored at face value. A campaign for "sound money" rallied for the issue of a gold-backed currency. The revolutionary war was over, but The United States had yet to form formal government organizations. The contstitutional congress had yet to convene, and the country was in chaos. The rebels protested against governmental and court systems that were wrought with dictatorial and oppressive regimes and against excessive salaries for government and court officials. Their actions included mobbing the court buildings in Northampton, Great Barrington, Worcester and Concord to prevent the sitting of the courts, whose actions had been grossly unfair to working people. On August 29, 1786, rebel mobs stormed the courthouse in Northampton to prevent the trial and imprisonment of debtors. In September 1786, Shays and about 600 armed farmers stormed the courthouse in Springfield. Governor Bowdoin countered with a militia of 4400 troops. On January 25, 1787, Shays led 2000 rebels to Springfield, MA to storm the arsenal, but government forces of 1200 soldiers led by General Shepard quelled the uprising. The rebels were captured and sentenced to death for treason in February 1787, but they were later pardoned. Ongoing Legacies One of the leaders in Shays' Rebellion, a farmer named Stone, who had led a group of 400 farmers during the actions of 1786-87, left another rebellious legacy, his great-granddaughter Lucy Stone. Ms. Stone was born in West Brookfield, Massachusetts, and became a rebel against racism and sexism in the mid-1800's. She is thought to be the first American woman to retain her maiden name when she married. She was abhorred by interpretations of the Bible that said that women should submit to men that she learned Greek and Hebrew so that she could translate the texts herself and challenge the sexist interpretations that seemed wrong to her. She attended Oberlin college in the 1840's, and was involved with abolitionist and suffragist movements, and spoke publicly about the issues. She was influential in the women's rights movement, and is credited with having been an important influence on Susan B. Anthony and Julia Ward Howe. In her time, the expression "Lucy-Stoner" was commonly used to describe women who were independent thinkers, especially those who defied the sexist notions of the day. Lucy Stone's husband, Henry Brown Blackwell, was active in the abolitionist movement and came from a family of progressive thinkers. In 1847, Henry Blackwell's sister Elizabeth received the first doctorate of medicine conferred on a woman in the U.S. When Lucy and Henry were married, Lucy ommitted the words "obey" from her vows. It became a symbolic event, which led to much discussion in the newspapers of the time, and some lively public debate on the issues and laws. Some historians credit Ms. Stone as an extremely important historical influence whose life made great contributions to our society.
www.shaysnet.com/dshays.html
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by daveman
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 7:23 AM
"to: daveman
It seems like you're metaphorically putting fingers to earholes and saying 'LA LA LA LA.'"
Really, john? You folks have been "taking to the streets" and "speaking truth to power" ever since W was elected.
And yet, he's still in the Oval Office. Got re-elected, actually, by a larger percentage than Clinton was re-elected. (Insert your favorite "stolen election" meme here in response.)
So, pretty much, all you've done is irritated people trying to get to work. Really. That's all. Oh, I've no doubt that you'll point to the Vietnam War protests as evidence that you've accomplished something, and I'll give you that -- you certainly gave North Vietnam the courage to continue the war when they were losing.
But this is the 21st century. What have you actually accomplished?
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by for one thing
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 8:00 AM
Here are two of them.
1. bush won the election. 2. bush won the re election. These are lies. No matter the frequency of repetition.
This is truth. This isn't our government. it doesn't serve the interests of the majority but instead serves its wealthy masters. The ones who have stolen it.
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by skeeter
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 9:13 AM
Tell me about it. These clowns are owned alright. How many members of "our" government aren't at least millionaires? Sucking the teet of the tax payer as they take their cut. With elections that have suck ups and rats, waiting in line to ride the gravy train. Then the rigid censorship of our "free press" to control issues and information. And to smear or hide any challenges. All owned. Boycott the commercial media.
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by you bet!
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 11:02 AM
The rate of poverty in the US is about to go up.
It is important to remember who is pulling the economic strings that have involved this nation in disaster and serious efforts are underweigh to obscure this deliberate dismantlement of the American People's contract with their elected representatives. Now we pay for terror.
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by daveman
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 1:39 PM
"Here are two of them.
1. bush won the election. 2. bush won the re election. These are lies. No matter the frequency of repetition.
This is truth. This isn't our government. it doesn't serve the interests of the majority but instead serves its wealthy masters. The ones who have stolen it."
That's odd. All I can find are examples of Democrat voter fraud.
Looks like you guys TRIED to steal it, but couldn't even get that right. Do the math: Liberal = incompetent.
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by daveman
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 1:41 PM
"It is important to remember who is pulling the economic strings that have involved this nation in disaster and serious efforts are underweigh to obscure this deliberate dismantlement of the American People's contract with their elected representatives. Now we pay for terror."
TRANSLATION:
"JOOOOOOOOSSS!!!!11oneone"
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by ha
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 1:45 PM
Didn't know for sure but I guess we know now who daveman's employers are. Sine The post it brings up has nothing in it about JOOOOOOOOOOOs...
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by johnk
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 3:14 PM
Jeez skeet, you sound so hopeless. With thinking like that, we'll never get anywhere.
In early American history, there was disagreement about violent insurrection. Some people, like Thomas Jefferson, were okay with it. Others, like Alexander Hamilton, opposed it.
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by Skeeter
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 3:20 PM
I did have a partial action plan. Boycott commercial media. That was my point. That's what holds the illusion together. Urge your friends to drop subscriptions and cable service. Damn.
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by johnk
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 3:40 PM
It's the "string puller" thing. The anti-semitic cartoons often show some Jewish stereotypes controlling the Americans like puppets.
It's scapegoating. The people "pulling the strings" are wealthy capitalists, and they are mostly Europeans who are not Jewish. The main people "pulling the strings" of international relations look to the president of the USA, and he's usually a white protestant man.
That's not to say that Jews haven't done well under capitalism. I think that's more a product of circumstance than anything else. Capitalism values mobility, particularly to leverage differences between markets, and Jews are relatively rootless. Many religions forbid charging interest, and lacking that restriction, Jews became money lenders. They were segregated into urban ghettos, and within them, a class society developed that reflected the class divisions of capitalism. (Except, of course, that there were "string pullers" there -- the Germans who dictated who'd get sent to death camps.)
Likewise, it should be no surprise that a people most affected by capitalism, participated so deeply in the growth of socialism, particularly in the USA, the heart of capitalism. Then as today, the labor movement is energized by rootless people doing the dirty, "forbidden" work, who are exploited within segregated communities.
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by skeeter
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 3:53 PM
I just find it a tendency for the guilty party to accuse others. And I wrote my feelings about those lardbutts in DC without even thinking about the Jewish lobby. I got friends who are Jews, for crying out loud. I don't care one way or the other about their religion. Now if the afore mentioned individuals are assholes, that's different. and that isn't race or religious dependent. Can't understand these assholes.
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by Amos
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 4:00 PM
What you people don't ever seem to understand is that endlessly carping on the flaws of capitalist democracy discredits you because you refuse to admit that it's the best system in the world for enhancing human freedom and wealth. Yes, it's rife with inequalities, because the world isn't not and never will be perfect, the only problem is that every other system is MASSIVLY WORSE.
So, for example, we see leftists endlessly harping on about Mcarthyism and a few Hollywood commies getting blackballed, while at the same period their USSR proletarian paradise was murdering MILLIONS in purges and famines.
No one listens to you because you're insane and disconnected from reality. Period. You want to enact your stupid policies? Win an election.
You won't, ever, because 90% of the electorate are smarter than you.
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by Owch, that piont is sharp
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 4:14 PM
"What you people[*] don't ever seem to understand is that endlessly carping on the flaws of capitalist democracy discredits you because you refuse to admit that it's the best system in the world for enhancing[*] human[*] freedom and wealth." That is only true if 'you people' are different than the 'humans' you refer to. In realspeak: [*] you people= the majority who are ruled. humans= the rulers. enhancing= the point of that bayonet that's sticking in my ass.
then you're absolutely correct about capitalism.
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by Yah
Monday, Jan. 16, 2006 at 4:25 PM
The current cancer of unregulated capitalism became the monster it is today when its corporate instrumentality became both immortal and human as the 14th amendment was hijacked. By a corporate rat in a header note. Huge amounts of bribe... uh lobby money followed. Now we are here.
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