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It's official: Minuteman Jim Gilchrist is a nut!

by John Earl Sunday, Nov. 06, 2005 at 1:29 AM
admin@ocorganizer.com Orange County

Faced with increasingly tough questions from conservatives about his recently stated support for Peter Camejo, revolution and redistribution of the wealth, as well as his high praise of the Seattle anti-WTO demonstrators, Minuteman candidate says five Greens were charged for attempted murder in Garden Grove and that Greens are domestic terrorists.

This is from Hugh Hewitt's blog. See many more comments and hear the audio from this link: http://www.ocblog.net/ocblog/2005/11/jim_gilchrist_i.html#comment-10910135

The New World Rollerball Order, by Minuteman founder and Congressional candidate Jim Gilchrist.

A quick brief, for those of you not from Orange County, California. Earlier this year, George Bush tapped Congressman Chris Cox to become the next chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, leaving California's 48th District seat vacant. After an open primary, where everyone and their mother filed to run, the top three set to face a final vote in December include Republican State Senator John Campbell, Democrat trial lawyer Steve Young, and Jim Gilchrist as an independent. Make no mistakes. John Campbell is going to win this seat. It is arguably the safest and strongest conservative seat in the Congress. Even if you gave the Democrats a chance to recarve the district up, just due to the demographics of the people that live here, you couldn't use a computer graphics program to create the shape of this district, and make it a Democrat seat.

Campbell is not just a solid conservative, he's an outstanding one. Gilchrist is a single issue candidate. Illegal immigration. If you get past that issue, he seems to fall apart. For example, there is a new website up called truthaboutgilchrist.com, that includes transcripts and some audio that should make any conservative leery about casting a wasted vote for Mr. Gilchrist.

We played some of the audio today, including a very bizarre passage about the movie Rollerball, and the concerns about large corporations taking over the world some day. One of his staff heard us laughing at Gilchrist morphing into Dennis Kucinich land, and had Gilchrist call into the show. Here's the audio and transcript of that interview.

11-03gilchrist.mp3

HH: Welcome back, America. It's Hugh Hewitt. That was the voice of Jim Gilchrist. This is the music from Rollerball, and I'm joined by Jim Gilchrist, founder of the Minuteman Project, candidate for Congress for the American Independent Party. Jim, what are you talking about with this Rollerball stuff?

JG: Okay. This goes back to several months before I decided to run for Congress. I'd have to...is it the part about...I'm talking to this whack-job from the Green Party, John Earl...

HH: Yeah.

JG: And he called me repeatedly, called me repeatedly. I've got to interview you. I traced him, his name, connected him with the Green Party, the mayor of Aliso Viejo, is also Green Party member. That ties back into Duane Roberts, the orchestrator of the riot Garden Grove, where they're...five of their members are charged with attempted murder when they tried to suppress my freedom of speech and freedom of assembly of four hundred American citizens. So it's a long story. I'd like to know what the Green Party's affiliation is with John Campbell, my opponent.

HH: Now Jim, I asked you a question. What is this stuff about Rollerball? Do you...

JG: Okay. The Rollerball...I was...okay. So I gave this guy an interview, knowing that he was setting me up for the Green Party, and I told him exactly what he wanted to hear, so he'd take it back to his Green Party, and it would confuse him. Again, this is three months before I decided to run. Now...

HH: Do you really believe that Rollerball explains it all?

JG: No, no. It was an example. This guy...

HH: I mean, have you seen Rollerball?

JG: We're dealing with a whack-job. If you remember John Hinckley, well, that's kind of what this guy is like. I called the sheriff department...

HH: Jim, I understand that. But I just want to know if you really do like Rollerball.

JG: Well, the movie was okay. It starred James Caan, and it was about the global economy, where there were no borders anymore. It was the nation of Bank of America, the nation of Wal-Mart, the nation of IBM. Something like that. Company names were different in that movie. That was thirty-one years ago.

HH: Do you think there was legitimate reason to that? I mean...

JG: Oh, it was fiction. I remember...I was in journalism school, and just got out of it, and remember thinking what a screeplay it was, but this would never happen in the world.

HH: You don't think it explains any narrative in the world today?

JG: It possibly could. I'd have to go back and see the movie in detail. It just, in 2004, as I was developing the Minuteman Project, I just got off the phone with Tom McClintock's office about something. I thought of this movie, Rollerball, because we were talking about globalism, and economic empires that would literally erase borders, it would erase unions, it would erase the middle class, and...

HH: Would someone understand more about the world if they watched this movie?

JG: Maybe, but I'd have to see it again to see all the details. I just remember the theme of it.

HH: Okay. Now you also criticized the World Trade Organization, and supported the demonstrators. Do you really support those people in Seattle?

JG: I support their right to freely assemble, and I do recall telling this whack-job that I do not support any of this violence.

HH: I know. You did say that. You said no violence.

JG: This is...you know, I don't know if this is comedy now. It's starting to get...this...can we talk about issues, Hugh? Let's talk about illegal immigration.

HH: Well, I do have an issue to ask you. I have an issue, Jim.

JG: Let's talk about oppressive taxation.

HH: Jim, this is not the John and Ken show (these are the Los Angeles based, Clear Channel pots and pans bangers. Undoubtedly, someone will have to read this to them - RB). There are real questions here.

JG: Okay. All right, Hugh. Go ahead.

HH: I have a real hard question.

JG: Go ahead.

HH: At OCblog, they say you've had a bankruptcy. Have you or a business that you operated, had a bankruptcy?

JG: In 1986-1990, I had some very serious medical surgeries. I was practically on my back for four and a half years, related to wounds sustained in Vietnam. Now if this is...yes, I had $130,000 of debt, and thanks to the rule of law, I was able to seek remedy through Chapter 7 bankruptcy rules in 1992, to eliminate $130,000 of medically related debt. Now if you want to attack Vietnam veteran volunteers who go for their country and get wounded, because they have medical problems related to the war...

HH: I'm not attacking you.

JG: ...you don't think you have much of a conscience.

HH: I just...I actually applaud your candor.

JG: Thank you.

HH: It was only $130,000 in debt that you discharged?

JG: Yes. Now that's two decades ago. That's in the prior century.

HH: Who were your creditors?

JG: What relevance does that have to do with the issues that are facing Americans?

HH: Well, Jim, a lot of people are interested...well, we're going to run out of time here. I want you to stick around for the next segment. Can you?

JG: Yeah. Sure will.

HH: What I want to know is...I see this at OCblog. It may or not be fair to you.

JG: Oh, they're not. I know that. I don't care. I've just been ignoring them...

HH: Well, they've been beating up on Campbell, too. So they're equal opportunity offenders. But I think the public wants to know about your bankruptcy. So when I come back, I'm going to ask you for some specifics about whose debt was discharged...

JG: I can't remember. That was twenty...two decades ago.

---

HH: Jim, I want you to be very carefull here, because I think...I've been trying to catch up quickly over at OCblog. From what I read here, your total bankruptcy was for more than a half million dollars. Am I wrong?

JG: That is incorrect. I'm not surprised that someone would lie about that kind of stuff. I'd like to...can we talk about...

HH: Jim, no. I've got to push you here, because this is a campaign. I'm a journalist. There's allegations about bankruptcy. You're saying it was a total of $130,000...

JG: Yeah, $130,000.

HH: There is nothing more than $130,000? That's not just the credit cards?

JG: Yeah. That's all I know of. $130,000. Well, when you're getting your information from the blogs, you have to understand that 90% of it is hyperbole.

HH: Well, that could be, but they've got links to documents here. So it's absolutely...and you're not unaware of any other thing? It's only $130,000 that you declared and discharged into bankruptcy?

JG: Yeah.

HH: Nothing more?

JG: It was all related to those surgeries, those serious spinal surgeries I had in...

HH: I understand that, but it's still a bankruptcy. My next question is about the Seattle World Trade Organization demonstrations. You endorsed them. They had a lot of strange positions. For example, they're for legalization of many drugs. Are you?

JG: No. Now, that...what John Earl got was nothing but lies, and it was kind of a game of gotcha to this whack-job. I knew he was working for the Green Party. I knew that he was involved in...

HH: Jim, I'm not concerned about that. I just want to get some of these things cleared up.

JG: Yeah.

HH: Now you...

JG: Whatever was told to John F. Earl was strictly fiction, months before I decided to run.

HH: Okay. Other issues. Again from...

JG: And it was to...how would you deal with a domestic terrorist? That's what these Green Party people are.

HH: Jim, I understand that. You've answered that. You don't agree with the legalization of drugs. Now...

JG: Right. You don't negotiate, you don't talk to them, and I know that now.

HH: Okay. But I'm asking issues here. I don't care about these whack-jobs that are following you around. Next...

JG: Okay. I filed, yeah, $130,000 dollars of debts to...within the law.

HH: And that's absolutely the most?

JG: As far as I know, yeah.

HH: Could it have been more?

JG: I don't know where you're getting this number, and what these documents are.

HH: OCblog.

JG: If they're fake documents or real documents, and...

HH: All right. We'll move on. I'll take your word for it.

JG: ...again, that's twenty years ago, that's two decades ago, that's in the prior century, and...

HH: Have John and Ken ever asked you about it?

JG: No. They mentioned it on the air...well, John did. A couple of weeks ago.

HH: But he didn't ask you about it?

JG: No.

HH: They don't ever ask you a hard question, do they?

JG: No. They've never asked me about John Campbell's lemon lawsuits...

HH: But now, you can...they can ask John that, but they never asked you. This is about you. Now I have another question. You were...

JG: Oh, no. They never asked me directly, no. But they talked about it.

HH: Okay. You were registered as a Democrat in 1979. Why did you change?

JG: Ronald Reagan. I'm a Reagan Republican. I always have been. I've never supported...

HH: Ronald Reagan was a free trader. He would not have agreed with the Seattle demonstrators, Jim.

JG: Oh, I didn't, either. I just told.

HH: What? Jim...

JG: I told...that was back right after the riots. I knew this guy was from the Green Party. It was at the beginning, months before I decided to run for Congress. And when you're dealing with a domestic terrorist, and groups like the Green Party, who attempt to murder people who want to assemble under the First Amendment, you tell them anything to get rid of them. The guy leaves recorded phone messages on my telephone...

HH: So you don't support the World Trade Organization protestors?

JG: They have a right to protest...

HH: No, I know that. But you don't agree with them?

JG: No, I don't agree with their policy. But I don't, I also don't agree in converting the world to government by some world global economic power.

HH: Is that happening?

JG: It's possible.

HH: But I mean, do you see any evidence of that right now?

JG: Well, with the...first thing you do is eliminate the borders, and then you eliminate the power of the workers, and then, yeah. Eventually, you have a global environment...economic regions instead of countries.

HH: Do you think Exxon/Mobile and Wal-Mart want that to happen?

JG: Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I'd have to talk to probably somebody like Democrat John Graham at UCI about that.

HH: Do you think Dennis Kucinich...Dennis Kucinich campaigned on this stuff. Do you think he had a point?

JG: I don't know the details of his campaign. These are...these are so multi-faceted questions. We need global enterprise, yes. But do we need to relinquish our sovereignty as a nation? Do we need to relinquish that independence? Absolutely not.

HH: But do you think Exxon/Mobile and Wal-Mart are threats to our sovereignty?

JG: They could be. Who knows? What do you think?

HH: No, I don't. And I believe in free trade, and Ronald Reagan did. So if you switched from being a Democrat...what year did you switch from being a Democrat?

JG: Oh, 1980, '81. When Reagan came into office.

HH: But he was a free trader, Jim? Why would you disagree with Reagan on free trade?

JG: I would need more facts about this. If it's a price of relinquishing our sovereignty and our security, then I would probably be...I would challenge that.

HH: So Ronald Reagan was wrong about that?

JG: He could have been. He was wrong about the amnesty, and he was wrong about not enforcing our immigration laws after that amnesty. But he was a great president. This man, in his last two years, ignored the enforcement of immigration laws, because he found a greater calling, and that was to bring down the wall in Berlin.

HH: Okay, a couple more questions.

JG: And I have to applaud him for that. The man was great.

HH: I was there. I was part of the administration. I'm with you on that. Now let me ask you a couple more questions. Are you a religious guy at all?

JG: Yes. I believe in God. I'm a Christian, but I also believe in pro-life, but I also believe in the death penalty for heinous crimes.

HH: So, are you...no abortion at any time?

JG: Yes. Morally, I cannot start splitting hairs with abortion, Hugh.

HH: But I mean, would you outlaw abortion?

JG: Yes. More likely than not, and that means yes. You're pushing me up against the wall, you want a yes or no answer, yes. I would support...

HH: Would you criminalize it?

JG: I would support legislation. I don't know if I would personally introduce it. There are other legislators who will...who have already tried to do that.

HH: Would you criminalize abortion?

JG: Yes. I would have to say yes. If I'm going to be one way or the other, and you've got me against the wall, yes. I am pro-life. I would criminalize abortion.

HH: How about same sex marriage? Do you support that?

JG: What two consenting adults want to do with their lives is between them, their conscience, their God. As far as legislating it into a legal marriage, no, it has no reason to be interfering with our Constitution...

HH: Domestic partnership okay with you?

JG: Pardon?

HH: Is domestic partnership law okay with you?

JG: That's two consenting adults. Who cares?

HH: So it's okay. You would vote for that in the Congress?

JG: It's not going to be a law. I mean, it's not going to ever come to legislation.

---

HH: Jim, during the break, one of your opponents sent me a document from bankruptcy court, dated in 1992, saying you were discharged from bankruptcy in 1992. Is that correct?

JG: Yeah. As best as I can recall, yes.

HH: Was your lawyer Victor Preston?

JG: Yeah.

HH: All right. I just wanted to make sure it was the accurate documents that...

JG: Yeah.

HH: Then, that's all I wanted to know about that. I want to go back and give you a chance to answer about domestic partnership benefits, and same sex marriage. California legislature passed, Arnold vetoed same sex marriage, but domestic partnership laws are across the United States, including California. Do you support them or oppose them?

JG: I follow the governor's lead. I oppose.

HH: All right. And so you oppose same sex marriage?

JG: Yes.

HH: Do you support paycheck protection, and you'll be voting for 77?

JG: Yes.

HH: Will you vote for 73, 74, 75, 76, and 77?

JG: All right. Yes, I believe the only two I'm going to challenge are 79 and 80, or is it 78 and 79? I have to get the list in front of me. There are about nine of them, and not yet taken a position on D, or the rest of them.

HH: What is D about?

JG: That's allocating some of the law enforcement money over to the fire department.

HH: So you have not got an opinion on that? That's a pretty important issue not to have an opinion on.

JG: I know which way I'm going to go. I'm not ready to comment, because I'm pro-law enforcement, and I think...you know, all right. You want a comment. If that ballot were put to me right now, I would vote no. And the reason is that the money for the fire department is available. And they should not take from one law enforcement agency, and deprive that agency to fund another. They should take from the illegal alien welfare benefit programs. There's all the money you need to do whatever you want in California, including bringing our taxes down forty percent.

HH: Jim, how much money...how much money have you raise in this campaign?

JG: Around $200,000. Maybe more.

HH: And has anyone contributed over $200 dollars to your campaign?

JG: Yes. The largest was $4,200. That's the maximum you can contribute.

HH: And how many contributors over $200 dollars have you got? Because I've tried to find your reports online. I can't find them. My assumption is then you had no one over $200 dollars with a name attached to it.

JG: No, that report is there. I had a copy of it for September 15. There should be one for October.

HH: Would you e-mail it over to me? I would appreciate that. Now Jim, last question. Will you come on my show and debate Campbell?

JG: Yes. But what time? When?

HH: I don't know. I'll get it set up. We'll get KRLA's studios to set it up. We'll go and have a nice hour-long conversation.

JG: Okay. And can we also talk about the morally and financially bankrupt Washington politicians, which is why I'm in this race in the first place?

HH: Of course.

JG: I understand there are over two hundred...I don't know if this figure's correct, two hundred members of Congress...no, a hundred and forty members of Congress who have gone through Chapter 7 bankruptcy. That would be interesting. I know they're morally bankrupt.

HH: I don't know, Jim, but we'll have you on to talk about it, and call often during the show. I appreciate your responsiveness tonight.

End of interview.

If you were having any troubles thinking of what to write about for your Blog of the Week entries, what you just read and heard should give you endless possibilities.
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So what ever happened to

by boycott the MM Sunday, Nov. 06, 2005 at 6:22 PM

So whatever happened to boycotting the minutemen? Come on! Who's got the cajones to set up a site with profiles of racists nazi pigs like people from the minutemen and SOS!? Lets boycott the minutemen and the only way to do that is to bring them out from under the shadows and into the light so we can see who they are and tell them to their faces "Yo soy illegal, y que!" Long live humanity and brotherhood. It's about equal opportunity...for EVERYONE, no more, no less! Long live equality, hard work, and justice!
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FlipFlop

by El Chivo Sunday, Nov. 06, 2005 at 7:37 PM

it's sound worst than John Kerry, but kerry knows what's the issues are and not Jimbo "AntiChrist" GilChrist. Jimbo site looks pathetic. he does not have any substance why he is running in his site.
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So what ever happened to Boycott

by BoycottMMP Sunday, Nov. 06, 2005 at 9:51 PM

Where is the website?
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Heweitt is a Bushbot Neo Con who supports

by Neocons Sunday, Nov. 06, 2005 at 9:55 PM

The War, as does Campbell who is a bigger facist than Gilchrist; he sponser the Border Police initiative which will completely militaize the border.
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Who is a bigger fascist

by John Earl Sunday, Nov. 06, 2005 at 11:29 PM
admin@ocorganizer.com

Gilchrist supports the state border police, which is really a police state proposal initiated by assemblyman Ray Haynes. Haynes is a hero among the Minutemen and CCIR people for this and his previous strong support of prop 187.
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Campbell is a co sponser of the New Police State

by Febcrescent Sunday, Nov. 06, 2005 at 11:40 PM

of the border police. Gilchrist prefers federal enforcement of the existing laws. Why should CA tax payers pay for what the Feds are supposed to do?

We need the money for day care, and schools.
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JBS

by El Chivo Monday, Nov. 07, 2005 at 11:00 PM

The American Independent Party/Constitution Party has a close ties with the John Birch Society. It's one wacky party. I guess this proved the point that Jimbo is a nutcase.

http://www.constitutionparty.com/
http://www.aipca.org/
http://www.jbs.org/
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Chiefs close ties

by AyatollahGondola Tuesday, Nov. 08, 2005 at 7:59 AM


By Chiefs logic, the democratic party has close ties with the republican, since they both have seats/members in the same houses.

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We knew this, didn't we?

by Fredric L. Rice Tuesday, Nov. 08, 2005 at 12:21 PM
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There's a line in an Austin Miles movie that applies. "I used to think you were crazy. Now I can see your nuts." (sic)

We knew this about Gilchrist, didn't we?

Look at the fantasy building of things that the unfortunate character probably actually and honestly believes.

Did anyone else notice this "riot in Garden Grove?" Looks like nobody else -- including Garden Grove police -- failed to notice it.

Did anyone else notice this "five murder indictments?" Looks like the police and the media some how missed that one, too.

Did anyone else notice these "four hundred Americans?" Unless the unfortunate fellow is trying to suggest that the peaceful anti-hate protesters were his "four hundred Americans."

Also notice how there's a massive conspiracy apparently directed solely against Gilchrist. Without a psychological evaluation by professionals, the core motivation for the notion will probably never be resolved. The question here is whether the unfortunate guy is laboring under some serious mental difficulties right now, something only he could probablyindiocate with any degree of certainty.

Trying to drag John Hinkley into the fantasy building is another good indication of some serious problems that the poor guy probably needs to work out with a professional therapist, if I had an opinion. The basis there is that Gilchrist is apparently trying to pretend that he's some how important, some how presidential, and that sinister -- maybe "Satanic" -- forces are out there bent on his destruction for some reason.

This is very bizzare. Very freakish. But honestly, there's nothing here that anti-hate activists hadn;t already known and seen, right?

I don't think there's anything new here. What remains is that voters are made aware of Mr. Gilchrist and his unfortunate notions.

My opinions only and only my opinions.
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Corrections

by Fredric L. Rice Tuesday, Nov. 08, 2005 at 12:26 PM
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That should be "Austin Powers," not "Austin Miles." Austin Miles is a fundamentalist Christian preacher who wrote the books "Don't Call me Brother" and "Setting the Captives Free" before he backslid into occultism.

Why didn't the vehicular assault against the peaceful anti-hate protesters get any mention?
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One Issue?

by Border Raven Tuesday, Nov. 08, 2005 at 2:22 PM

Jim Gilchrist's "one issue" candidacy of "illegal immigration" covers, many other issues.

School overcrowding and the impact on the taxpayers who must pay for the education of Mexico's children.

Health care, the crowding of hospital Emergency Rooms, by indigent illegal immigrants, who have no other health care. BTW -- funded by taxpayers.

Prison overcrowding, and the Hispanic gangs who are controling life inside of America's prison system.

Freeway congestion, uninsured motorists, since many of the illegals, cannot afford insurance.

Wage dilution, as the illegals have flooded the job markets, including the agriculture, construction, manufacturing, and other sectors.

Unemployment of citizens, as more citizens are displaced from their jobs, by employers who hire illegals.

White Flight, as the white affluent taxpayers continue to leave the state, for better locations, taking their tax dollars with them.

Tax base drain, as the illegals, rather than spend their earnings locally, send the money back to their home country.

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If you have the balls...

by Border Raven Tuesday, Nov. 08, 2005 at 2:40 PM

If you have the balls, to stand up and present evidence of libel and slander, against the Minutemen/SOS supporters, then do it in the open. Don't hide behind an anonomous screenname. Otherwise, you have no case. Prove they are racists, nazis, and white supremecists. Don't just throw the mud, make it stick, boys and girls, or I'll see to it you hang by the short hairs.

Minutemen/SOS supporters are what we used to call patriots, or citizens willing to stand up for their country. Too bad there are fewer patriots from the next generations.

Unfortuenately some of you younger folks don't see the light, as the older people do. Heck, I am semi- retired, and many of the MMP/SOS persons I have met are too. In a few more years, I won't be working in some factory job, since that will be taken over by a "Mexican".

The "Mexcian" who takes over my job, will have gained seniority, by the time you hit the job market. So, I'll take this opportunity to wish you luck finding a job. Oh, but some college professor is probably telling you not to worry, because he is training you for a job of the future. But, then he is paid to say that. I too learned long ago, the schools are in the business of attracting government funding, to fatten their wallets, while the students are sold a pipe dream of a job future.

Ah! A light bulb glows over your head.






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Have you been to the border?

by Border Raven Tuesday, Nov. 08, 2005 at 2:53 PM

I was down there on the 27th, for the CAMM being filmed by a Finnish documentary crew. I couldn't stay the night, but I am planning more trips over the winter.
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To Border Raven

by Leslie Tuesday, Nov. 08, 2005 at 7:02 PM

Stop pulling that "wiser than thou" crap. Respect's gotta be earned, and you're not even close.

I'm not using a screen name, I've given you my reasons for calling the SOS and Minutemen racists, I've been to Campo and Jacumba (and stood toe to toe with armed MM) several times, I'm older than dirt, and I have no hope of retiring. If you want to play the "Father knows best" game, play it over here.

I work daily with younger people, and they understand better than you or I that there is no unemployment problem for white people, there's always been an unemployment problem for people of color, and Mexicans have nothing to do with that, except that whites are once again using racism to divide African-Americans from Mezo-Americans. It's an old game, and it's worn thin with the younger crew.

Gilchrist? He's worse than a nut--he's fronting for the globalists, the nexus of facism abroad and facism here. His campaign fizzled once it got out that he's an accountant who filed bankruptcy, he has no political sensibility, he's incoherent, and he (and you) are totally out of touch with anyone but yourselves.

So go grab Gilchrist's short hairs, get him to pull his candidacy out by his bootstraps, and tell him to go assimilate with real "American" values.
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To Leslie

by Border Raven Wednesday, Nov. 09, 2005 at 11:25 AM

To Leslie

LOL nice try. You don't use a screen name, but you don't use your full given name either, so stop with the hypocrisy. Got a picture? And what were you doing on the border without a firearm, afraid of guns?

The Minutemen are operating legally as patriotic citizens, under the US Constitution and within the Bill of Rights. So, far no Minutemen or women, have been arrested for their valiant efforts of defending our once great nation against the illegal invasion -- A duty our elected government(s), have failed to do properly for over 50-years. Unfortunately the counter demonstrators have been arrested. BTW -- How are they doing? I hope it is a learning experience for them.

You dig up the past, but this is the present. It ain't no racist issue, it is the law.

The Minutemen have managed to bring the issues to the front-burner and turn up the heat under our elected government(s). Illegal immigration will be a ballot issue in future elections.

Personally, I don't like having untrained and unregulated persons on the border, but it is a citizen's duty to step up and do it if needed. Sort of like a good Samaritan, aiding a motorist, on a dark and stormy night. Or someone performing CPR or an emergency tracheotomy to save a life. These are things I'd prefer to leave to the trained experts, but if given no other option, I would not hesitate to perform the operation, unsterilized knife and all, as I have studied it. But I digress.

People of color have lived on their "self-perpetuated victim" status for too long, and it is up to them to seek higher education, and better careers. I cannot accept blame if black gangbangers shoot and kill black Straight "A" students, who are preparing for college. That is something the black community must deal with. The "Code of Silence" ends today. And let's not get into the issue of reparations, as Former California Gov. Gray Davis, already paid them. Blacks who try to better themselves are shunned by their peers as "being too white".

As for the divide between African-Americans and Mezo-Americans, you should visit the highschools of LAUSD, and count heads and you will see more Hispanics displacing blacks and whites, which has resulted in school riots.
http://www.lausd.k12.ca.us/lausd/offices/bulletins/5_yr_review.html
http://www.lausd.k12.ca.us/lausd/demographics/

On the subject of Jim Gilchrist's bankruptcy. I'll try to read about it later.
You learn a lot by experience and sometimes need to hit your personal "rock bottom" before you start to dig yourself out of the hole you are in. Back in my young-adult years, I would come up short a few days before payday. I went the Red Cross, for free financial counseling, and learned a whole lot about where my money was going, and how to get control of it. Sure Jim Gilchrist should be an expert in finances, but the expert learns from experience. Myself, back when I thought my job was going to last forever, spent on my credit card (12.5% no fee). Now I carry a $9,326 debt, but I have $0 Minimum Payment Due. I am a payday or so away from a bankruptcy, but I could probably sell off some holdings and avoid it. I try to keep $1200 to $3000 in checking and move what I can to savings ($5800)
http://www.ocblog.net/ocblog/2005/10/jim_gilchrists_.html

BTW -- Gilchrist, is not fronting for the Globalists. If anything he wants to close the gaps between the border entry ports, and roundup and deport all of the illegals. Although, I think the illegals can be motivated to "self-deport" themselves, saving a lot of money. They can go to Canada, where they are welcome, for all I care. If they decide to riot, as is happening in France, then I'll have to do what a citizen has to do.

You all have a fine day. Get out and vote.



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Names

by Luca Wednesday, Nov. 09, 2005 at 12:23 PM

and Border Raven is your real name. right?
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BR Gets Personal

by Leslie Wednesday, Nov. 09, 2005 at 3:02 PM

So you're off your "older than thou" bs and back to your usual ranting, except now we know you're old and broke. What happened? Did your white bootstraps break, and you're blaming it on migrants?

Demographics shift. In a sane world, we'd all adjust.

But it's not a sane world. I face you down unarmed while you're sporting three guns, and you say I'm afraid of guns. Brown people get arrested, white people (except Baldy) go free, and you say the system's working just fine.

But the system's not working fine, is it, if you're not making the financial grade. Bootstraps are the answer for people of color; armed confrontation is the answer for white people. The white protectionist laws against Brown people this decade, against Black people in decades past, aren't being strictly enforced (a small miracle), and you're willing to spend billions of dollars to see they are. And if you can't do that, you're going to take the law into your own hands--the definition of vigilanteism--while screaming you're not a vigilante. And if all that fails, the plan is the deportation of Brown people (in unventilated boxcars, perhaps) for your final solution.

And you rationalize all that with a string of tired and ancient stereotypes. All so you can "retire"--an ethereal concept for most of the world (including the U.S.).

I've got news for you, old man . . .

. . . the world has changed. This isn't the White Nation you grew up in. Today, a few white people don't make it to middle-class, couch-potato-hood, and a few people of color do. You might just spend your retirement wiping off tables at McDonald's--and cruising the border on weekends isn't going to change that, no matter how "patriotic" you are. I'd suggest a weekend job.

Jim Gilchrist's neo-con, globalist connections are at http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/pol/108247235.html. Seems the MMP membership lists and financial records are firmly in neo-con hands.

My last name is on every news piece I've written here, so I guess I've met all your requirements for I-don't -know-what. Go Google me, and get caught up with the rest of the MM and SOS, who took care of that months ago. And, as Luca asked, what's your name?
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by Border Raven Thursday, Nov. 10, 2005 at 12:59 AM

Luca, my use of a screenname is not the issue. The issue is that Leslie is accusing me of hiding behind a screenname, when she, only uses a first name.

It is moot point anyway.

We all have the basic human right to privacy, regardless of where we live.



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BR Gets Personal?

by Border Raven Thursday, Nov. 10, 2005 at 1:29 AM

BR Gets Personal

Old? Well, older. Broke, well not totally, as I have a monthly deposit, to my checking account. Employment status is "on standby" as I am waiting until the 14th for a decision. I had a message today, that I need to followup on tomorrow, and I may have some business, in LA County, in a few weeks. So, in a sense I am still assigned to a client, but the client wants to reassign me to use my other talents in his factory. If he don't recall me, then I am free to pursue other options, and he will eventually pay more to fix his problems. No, I don't blame anyone, but the client.

You and I have never met, so, no you did not face me down. If you read what I said, I asked if you were afraid of guns, I never made the statement. I never said "Brown" people got arrested. I said the AMM side has the higher arrest record.

Who is this "Baldy" I've never met him.

Hey, I'd prefer if the illegals would begin to migrate southward. I see homeless people heading south every Fall. San Diego and the border areas, should be a bit crowded with the homeless and the illegals. But, there you go, characterizing me with some nazi style treatment of deportees.

Well, I would prefer the governments do their jobs, so patriotic citizens don't have to. It costs me money and time to go down to the border. That's money I cannot afford and time, I'd rather spend elsewhere.

Oh, are you the Leslie, in the green and black at the Laguna Beach rally?
Major fashion blunder, girl friend. Shame on you!

My name is Border Raven, but I have a total of 7 screennames available, with my AOL account. I prefer my privacy. :)



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Southern Patriot

by Maria Vasquez Wednesday, Nov. 30, 2005 at 8:10 PM
minutemenrhere@wmconnect.com 909-721-9556 1380 Cherry Hill Way, Chino Hills, CA 91709

Howdy!

My old Mantra was, "I'm Okay, Your Okay". forget that useless crap.

Here is my new and imporved Mantra:

We're Here! We're In Your Face! And Wer'e Proud!!!!!!!!!!!! We Are Americans......................................................Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Death to the enemies of freedom!

Glory and honour to the Mighty Minutemen, they put their asses on the line so you don't have to!
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