This is from Hugh Hewitt's blog. See many more comments and hear the audio from this link:
http://www.ocblog.net/ocblog/2005/11/jim_gilchrist_i.html#comment-10910135 The New World Rollerball Order, by Minuteman founder and Congressional candidate Jim Gilchrist.
A quick brief, for those of you not from Orange County, California. Earlier this year, George Bush tapped Congressman Chris Cox to become the next chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, leaving California's 48th District seat vacant. After an open primary, where everyone and their mother filed to run, the top three set to face a final vote in December include Republican State Senator John Campbell, Democrat trial lawyer Steve Young, and Jim Gilchrist as an independent. Make no mistakes. John Campbell is going to win this seat. It is arguably the safest and strongest conservative seat in the Congress. Even if you gave the Democrats a chance to recarve the district up, just due to the demographics of the people that live here, you couldn't use a computer graphics program to create the shape of this district, and make it a Democrat seat.
Campbell is not just a solid conservative, he's an outstanding one. Gilchrist is a single issue candidate. Illegal immigration. If you get past that issue, he seems to fall apart. For example, there is a new website up called truthaboutgilchrist.com, that includes transcripts and some audio that should make any conservative leery about casting a wasted vote for Mr. Gilchrist.
We played some of the audio today, including a very bizarre passage about the movie Rollerball, and the concerns about large corporations taking over the world some day. One of his staff heard us laughing at Gilchrist morphing into Dennis Kucinich land, and had Gilchrist call into the show. Here's the audio and transcript of that interview.
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HH: Welcome back, America. It's Hugh Hewitt. That was the voice of Jim Gilchrist. This is the music from Rollerball, and I'm joined by Jim Gilchrist, founder of the Minuteman Project, candidate for Congress for the American Independent Party. Jim, what are you talking about with this Rollerball stuff?
JG: Okay. This goes back to several months before I decided to run for Congress. I'd have to...is it the part about...I'm talking to this whack-job from the Green Party, John Earl...
HH: Yeah.
JG: And he called me repeatedly, called me repeatedly. I've got to interview you. I traced him, his name, connected him with the Green Party, the mayor of Aliso Viejo, is also Green Party member. That ties back into Duane Roberts, the orchestrator of the riot Garden Grove, where they're...five of their members are charged with attempted murder when they tried to suppress my freedom of speech and freedom of assembly of four hundred American citizens. So it's a long story. I'd like to know what the Green Party's affiliation is with John Campbell, my opponent.
HH: Now Jim, I asked you a question. What is this stuff about Rollerball? Do you...
JG: Okay. The Rollerball...I was...okay. So I gave this guy an interview, knowing that he was setting me up for the Green Party, and I told him exactly what he wanted to hear, so he'd take it back to his Green Party, and it would confuse him. Again, this is three months before I decided to run. Now...
HH: Do you really believe that Rollerball explains it all?
JG: No, no. It was an example. This guy...
HH: I mean, have you seen Rollerball?
JG: We're dealing with a whack-job. If you remember John Hinckley, well, that's kind of what this guy is like. I called the sheriff department...
HH: Jim, I understand that. But I just want to know if you really do like Rollerball.
JG: Well, the movie was okay. It starred James Caan, and it was about the global economy, where there were no borders anymore. It was the nation of Bank of America, the nation of Wal-Mart, the nation of IBM. Something like that. Company names were different in that movie. That was thirty-one years ago.
HH: Do you think there was legitimate reason to that? I mean...
JG: Oh, it was fiction. I remember...I was in journalism school, and just got out of it, and remember thinking what a screeplay it was, but this would never happen in the world.
HH: You don't think it explains any narrative in the world today?
JG: It possibly could. I'd have to go back and see the movie in detail. It just, in 2004, as I was developing the Minuteman Project, I just got off the phone with Tom McClintock's office about something. I thought of this movie, Rollerball, because we were talking about globalism, and economic empires that would literally erase borders, it would erase unions, it would erase the middle class, and...
HH: Would someone understand more about the world if they watched this movie?
JG: Maybe, but I'd have to see it again to see all the details. I just remember the theme of it.
HH: Okay. Now you also criticized the World Trade Organization, and supported the demonstrators. Do you really support those people in Seattle?
JG: I support their right to freely assemble, and I do recall telling this whack-job that I do not support any of this violence.
HH: I know. You did say that. You said no violence.
JG: This is...you know, I don't know if this is comedy now. It's starting to get...this...can we talk about issues, Hugh? Let's talk about illegal immigration.
HH: Well, I do have an issue to ask you. I have an issue, Jim.
JG: Let's talk about oppressive taxation.
HH: Jim, this is not the John and Ken show (these are the Los Angeles based, Clear Channel pots and pans bangers. Undoubtedly, someone will have to read this to them - RB). There are real questions here.
JG: Okay. All right, Hugh. Go ahead.
HH: I have a real hard question.
JG: Go ahead.
HH: At OCblog, they say you've had a bankruptcy. Have you or a business that you operated, had a bankruptcy?
JG: In 1986-1990, I had some very serious medical surgeries. I was practically on my back for four and a half years, related to wounds sustained in Vietnam. Now if this is...yes, I had $130,000 of debt, and thanks to the rule of law, I was able to seek remedy through Chapter 7 bankruptcy rules in 1992, to eliminate $130,000 of medically related debt. Now if you want to attack Vietnam veteran volunteers who go for their country and get wounded, because they have medical problems related to the war...
HH: I'm not attacking you.
JG: ...you don't think you have much of a conscience.
HH: I just...I actually applaud your candor.
JG: Thank you.
HH: It was only $130,000 in debt that you discharged?
JG: Yes. Now that's two decades ago. That's in the prior century.
HH: Who were your creditors?
JG: What relevance does that have to do with the issues that are facing Americans?
HH: Well, Jim, a lot of people are interested...well, we're going to run out of time here. I want you to stick around for the next segment. Can you?
JG: Yeah. Sure will.
HH: What I want to know is...I see this at OCblog. It may or not be fair to you.
JG: Oh, they're not. I know that. I don't care. I've just been ignoring them...
HH: Well, they've been beating up on Campbell, too. So they're equal opportunity offenders. But I think the public wants to know about your bankruptcy. So when I come back, I'm going to ask you for some specifics about whose debt was discharged...
JG: I can't remember. That was twenty...two decades ago.
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HH: Jim, I want you to be very carefull here, because I think...I've been trying to catch up quickly over at OCblog. From what I read here, your total bankruptcy was for more than a half million dollars. Am I wrong?
JG: That is incorrect. I'm not surprised that someone would lie about that kind of stuff. I'd like to...can we talk about...
HH: Jim, no. I've got to push you here, because this is a campaign. I'm a journalist. There's allegations about bankruptcy. You're saying it was a total of $130,000...
JG: Yeah, $130,000.
HH: There is nothing more than $130,000? That's not just the credit cards?
JG: Yeah. That's all I know of. $130,000. Well, when you're getting your information from the blogs, you have to understand that 90% of it is hyperbole.
HH: Well, that could be, but they've got links to documents here. So it's absolutely...and you're not unaware of any other thing? It's only $130,000 that you declared and discharged into bankruptcy?
JG: Yeah.
HH: Nothing more?
JG: It was all related to those surgeries, those serious spinal surgeries I had in...
HH: I understand that, but it's still a bankruptcy. My next question is about the Seattle World Trade Organization demonstrations. You endorsed them. They had a lot of strange positions. For example, they're for legalization of many drugs. Are you?
JG: No. Now, that...what John Earl got was nothing but lies, and it was kind of a game of gotcha to this whack-job. I knew he was working for the Green Party. I knew that he was involved in...
HH: Jim, I'm not concerned about that. I just want to get some of these things cleared up.
JG: Yeah.
HH: Now you...
JG: Whatever was told to John F. Earl was strictly fiction, months before I decided to run.
HH: Okay. Other issues. Again from...
JG: And it was to...how would you deal with a domestic terrorist? That's what these Green Party people are.
HH: Jim, I understand that. You've answered that. You don't agree with the legalization of drugs. Now...
JG: Right. You don't negotiate, you don't talk to them, and I know that now.
HH: Okay. But I'm asking issues here. I don't care about these whack-jobs that are following you around. Next...
JG: Okay. I filed, yeah, $130,000 dollars of debts to...within the law.
HH: And that's absolutely the most?
JG: As far as I know, yeah.
HH: Could it have been more?
JG: I don't know where you're getting this number, and what these documents are.
HH: OCblog.
JG: If they're fake documents or real documents, and...
HH: All right. We'll move on. I'll take your word for it.
JG: ...again, that's twenty years ago, that's two decades ago, that's in the prior century, and...
HH: Have John and Ken ever asked you about it?
JG: No. They mentioned it on the air...well, John did. A couple of weeks ago.
HH: But he didn't ask you about it?
JG: No.
HH: They don't ever ask you a hard question, do they?
JG: No. They've never asked me about John Campbell's lemon lawsuits...
HH: But now, you can...they can ask John that, but they never asked you. This is about you. Now I have another question. You were...
JG: Oh, no. They never asked me directly, no. But they talked about it.
HH: Okay. You were registered as a Democrat in 1979. Why did you change?
JG: Ronald Reagan. I'm a Reagan Republican. I always have been. I've never supported...
HH: Ronald Reagan was a free trader. He would not have agreed with the Seattle demonstrators, Jim.
JG: Oh, I didn't, either. I just told.
HH: What? Jim...
JG: I told...that was back right after the riots. I knew this guy was from the Green Party. It was at the beginning, months before I decided to run for Congress. And when you're dealing with a domestic terrorist, and groups like the Green Party, who attempt to murder people who want to assemble under the First Amendment, you tell them anything to get rid of them. The guy leaves recorded phone messages on my telephone...
HH: So you don't support the World Trade Organization protestors?
JG: They have a right to protest...
HH: No, I know that. But you don't agree with them?
JG: No, I don't agree with their policy. But I don't, I also don't agree in converting the world to government by some world global economic power.
HH: Is that happening?
JG: It's possible.
HH: But I mean, do you see any evidence of that right now?
JG: Well, with the...first thing you do is eliminate the borders, and then you eliminate the power of the workers, and then, yeah. Eventually, you have a global environment...economic regions instead of countries.
HH: Do you think Exxon/Mobile and Wal-Mart want that to happen?
JG: Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I'd have to talk to probably somebody like Democrat John Graham at UCI about that.
HH: Do you think Dennis Kucinich...Dennis Kucinich campaigned on this stuff. Do you think he had a point?
JG: I don't know the details of his campaign. These are...these are so multi-faceted questions. We need global enterprise, yes. But do we need to relinquish our sovereignty as a nation? Do we need to relinquish that independence? Absolutely not.
HH: But do you think Exxon/Mobile and Wal-Mart are threats to our sovereignty?
JG: They could be. Who knows? What do you think?
HH: No, I don't. And I believe in free trade, and Ronald Reagan did. So if you switched from being a Democrat...what year did you switch from being a Democrat?
JG: Oh, 1980, '81. When Reagan came into office.
HH: But he was a free trader, Jim? Why would you disagree with Reagan on free trade?
JG: I would need more facts about this. If it's a price of relinquishing our sovereignty and our security, then I would probably be...I would challenge that.
HH: So Ronald Reagan was wrong about that?
JG: He could have been. He was wrong about the amnesty, and he was wrong about not enforcing our immigration laws after that amnesty. But he was a great president. This man, in his last two years, ignored the enforcement of immigration laws, because he found a greater calling, and that was to bring down the wall in Berlin.
HH: Okay, a couple more questions.
JG: And I have to applaud him for that. The man was great.
HH: I was there. I was part of the administration. I'm with you on that. Now let me ask you a couple more questions. Are you a religious guy at all?
JG: Yes. I believe in God. I'm a Christian, but I also believe in pro-life, but I also believe in the death penalty for heinous crimes.
HH: So, are you...no abortion at any time?
JG: Yes. Morally, I cannot start splitting hairs with abortion, Hugh.
HH: But I mean, would you outlaw abortion?
JG: Yes. More likely than not, and that means yes. You're pushing me up against the wall, you want a yes or no answer, yes. I would support...
HH: Would you criminalize it?
JG: I would support legislation. I don't know if I would personally introduce it. There are other legislators who will...who have already tried to do that.
HH: Would you criminalize abortion?
JG: Yes. I would have to say yes. If I'm going to be one way or the other, and you've got me against the wall, yes. I am pro-life. I would criminalize abortion.
HH: How about same sex marriage? Do you support that?
JG: What two consenting adults want to do with their lives is between them, their conscience, their God. As far as legislating it into a legal marriage, no, it has no reason to be interfering with our Constitution...
HH: Domestic partnership okay with you?
JG: Pardon?
HH: Is domestic partnership law okay with you?
JG: That's two consenting adults. Who cares?
HH: So it's okay. You would vote for that in the Congress?
JG: It's not going to be a law. I mean, it's not going to ever come to legislation.
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HH: Jim, during the break, one of your opponents sent me a document from bankruptcy court, dated in 1992, saying you were discharged from bankruptcy in 1992. Is that correct?
JG: Yeah. As best as I can recall, yes.
HH: Was your lawyer Victor Preston?
JG: Yeah.
HH: All right. I just wanted to make sure it was the accurate documents that...
JG: Yeah.
HH: Then, that's all I wanted to know about that. I want to go back and give you a chance to answer about domestic partnership benefits, and same sex marriage. California legislature passed, Arnold vetoed same sex marriage, but domestic partnership laws are across the United States, including California. Do you support them or oppose them?
JG: I follow the governor's lead. I oppose.
HH: All right. And so you oppose same sex marriage?
JG: Yes.
HH: Do you support paycheck protection, and you'll be voting for 77?
JG: Yes.
HH: Will you vote for 73, 74, 75, 76, and 77?
JG: All right. Yes, I believe the only two I'm going to challenge are 79 and 80, or is it 78 and 79? I have to get the list in front of me. There are about nine of them, and not yet taken a position on D, or the rest of them.
HH: What is D about?
JG: That's allocating some of the law enforcement money over to the fire department.
HH: So you have not got an opinion on that? That's a pretty important issue not to have an opinion on.
JG: I know which way I'm going to go. I'm not ready to comment, because I'm pro-law enforcement, and I think...you know, all right. You want a comment. If that ballot were put to me right now, I would vote no. And the reason is that the money for the fire department is available. And they should not take from one law enforcement agency, and deprive that agency to fund another. They should take from the illegal alien welfare benefit programs. There's all the money you need to do whatever you want in California, including bringing our taxes down forty percent.
HH: Jim, how much money...how much money have you raise in this campaign?
JG: Around $200,000. Maybe more.
HH: And has anyone contributed over $200 dollars to your campaign?
JG: Yes. The largest was $4,200. That's the maximum you can contribute.
HH: And how many contributors over $200 dollars have you got? Because I've tried to find your reports online. I can't find them. My assumption is then you had no one over $200 dollars with a name attached to it.
JG: No, that report is there. I had a copy of it for September 15. There should be one for October.
HH: Would you e-mail it over to me? I would appreciate that. Now Jim, last question. Will you come on my show and debate Campbell?
JG: Yes. But what time? When?
HH: I don't know. I'll get it set up. We'll get KRLA's studios to set it up. We'll go and have a nice hour-long conversation.
JG: Okay. And can we also talk about the morally and financially bankrupt Washington politicians, which is why I'm in this race in the first place?
HH: Of course.
JG: I understand there are over two hundred...I don't know if this figure's correct, two hundred members of Congress...no, a hundred and forty members of Congress who have gone through Chapter 7 bankruptcy. That would be interesting. I know they're morally bankrupt.
HH: I don't know, Jim, but we'll have you on to talk about it, and call often during the show. I appreciate your responsiveness tonight.
End of interview.
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