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by D. Burbeck
Friday, Sep. 23, 2005 at 1:15 PM
During a Congressional Hearing on Predicting Hurricanes, Max Mayfield (hurricane guru) was asked if he believes the increase in number and intensity of hurricanes are due to global warming.
His response should have been "Senator, my field of expertise is not in global warming research so I cannot shed any light on the subject."
His answer (lie) was "No I don't see any connection.......because on the other side of the world we do not see an increase in the number of typhoons or increase in their intensity".
That is a totally bogus answer! Global warming researchers have stated repeatedly that the affects of global warming will not be found universally around the globe. A perfect example are the statistics gathered in the Arctic and Antarctic that show a quite large increase in mean annual temperature, which are much larger than any stats anywhere else on the globe.
Mr. Mayfield should be fired for saying what he did, giving the most environmentally destructive Administration we have ever had a scientifically false reason to put off working to reduce air pollution.
Please write an email to our illustrious "hurricane expert" and let him know how you feel:
nhc.public.affairs (at) noaa.gov
The hearing was aired on C-span a few days ago. After much praise for Mr. Mayfield in bringing about a reliable 3-day prediction of the paths of hurricanes, a Republican Senator asked the above question......which in reality was the reason for the hearing. It was blatant right wing propaganda at it's worst.
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by Ben
Saturday, Sep. 24, 2005 at 4:48 AM
Scalar or zero point energy anyone ? http://www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/scalar_wars.htm http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm how about global warming on MARS ?? http://www.mos.org/cst/article/80/9.html http://www.blog.speculist.com/archives/000145.html What's the difference between the two planets...absolutely nothing ! I really wish some of you eco nazis conduct a more intelligent approach to your conclusions, and give the people useful or thought provoking information, NOT conclusions, speculations, or mindless opinion. I think its really funny that the NZ'ers came to the conclusion that livestock is the source of greenhouse gas. The next step in the process should have been retrofitting livestock with catalytic converters, and it would reflect the typical incompetence of public servants. Anyway, tThere is always something else but no one ever addresses natural planetary envioronmental cycles...there is always an agenda. Yes, I know that some more than others are polluting the only home we know, and that oil is unncessary. For the amount of money we waste pursuing frivolity at the cost of human life, we should have conquered the outer reaches of this solar system by now. The above referenced web sites are only a very small portion of the vast amount of knowledge. Happy Friday !
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Sep. 24, 2005 at 6:31 AM
The shrill tone of your accusations plus the contrived information URLs you provide speak volumes of this new perception management tactic in the face and aftermath of disaster. Blame the environmentalists. We know who commited mass murder in N O and its wasn't the environmentalists.
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by fresca
Saturday, Sep. 24, 2005 at 8:55 AM
" We know who commited mass murder in N O and its wasn't the environmentalists."
So now you're accusing the weather of being part of some sinister plot?
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Sep. 24, 2005 at 9:29 AM
FEMA is only one of the conpiritors. Katrina was only the hammer.
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by Ben
Saturday, Sep. 24, 2005 at 10:44 AM
HERE IS THE BILL YOU SHILL !
Weather Modification Research & Technology Act Of 2005
United States Senate | September 2, 2005
(Introduced in Senate)
S 517 IS
109th CONGRESS
1st Session
S. 517
To establish the Weather Modification Operations and Research Board, and for other purposes.
IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
March 3, 2005
Mrs. HUTCHISON introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation
A BILL
To establish the Weather Modification Operations and Research Board, and for other purposes.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the `Weather Modification Research and Technology Transfer Authorization Act of 2005'. SEC. 2. PURPOSE.
It is the purpose of this Act to develop and implement a comprehensive and coordinated national weather modification policy and a national cooperative Federal and State program of weather modification research and development. SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS.
In this Act: (1) BOARD- The term `Board' means the Weather Modification Advisory and Research Board. (2) EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR- The term `Executive Director' means the Executive Director of the Weather Modification Advisory and Research Board. (3) RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT- The term `research and development' means theoretical analysis, exploration, experimentation, and the extension of investigative findings and theories of scientific or technical nature into practical application for experimental and demonstration purposes, including the experimental production and testing of models, devices, equipment, materials, and processes. (4) WEATHER MODIFICATION- The term `weather modification' means changing or controlling, or attempting to change or control, by artificial methods the natural development of atmospheric cloud forms or precipitation forms which occur in the troposphere. SEC. 4. WEATHER MODIFICATION ADVISORY AND RESEARCH BOARD ESTABLISHED.
(a) IN GENERAL- There is established in the Department of Commerce the Weather Modification Advisory and Research Board. (b) MEMBERSHIP- (1) IN GENERAL- The Board shall consist of 11 members appointed by the Secretary of Commerce, of whom-- (A) at least 1 shall be a representative of the American Meteorological Society; (B) at least 1 shall be a representative of the American Society of Civil Engineers; (C) at least 1 shall be a representative of the National Academy of Sciences; (D) at least 1 shall be a representative of the National Center for Atmospheric Research of the National Science Foundation; (E) at least 2 shall be representatives of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration of the Department of Commerce; (F) at least 1 shall be a representative of institutions of higher education or research institutes; and (G) at least 1 shall be a representative of a State that is currently supporting operational weather modification projects. (2) TENURE- A member of the Board serves at the pleasure of the Secretary of Commerce. (3) VACANCIES- Any vacancy on the Board shall be filled in the same manner as the original appointment. (b) ADVISORY COMMITTEES- The Board may establish advisory committees to advise the Board and to make recommendations to the Board concerning legislation, policies, administration, research, and other matters. (c) INITIAL MEETING- Not later than 30 days after the date on which all members of the Board have been appointed, the Board shall hold its first meeting. (d) MEETINGS- The Board shall meet at the call of the Chair. (e) QUORUM- A majority of the members of the Board shall constitute a quorum, but a lesser number of members may hold hearings. (f) CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR- The Board shall select a Chair and Vice Chair from among its members. SEC. 5. DUTIES OF THE BOARD.
(a) PROMOTION OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT- In order to assist in expanding the theoretical and practical knowledge of weather modification, the Board shall promote and fund research and development, studies, and investigations with respect to-- (1) improved forecast and decision-making technologies for weather modification operations, including tailored computer workstations and software and new observation systems with remote sensors; and (2) assessments and evaluations of the efficacy of weather modification, both purposeful (including cloud-seeding operations) and inadvertent (including downwind effects and anthropogenic effects). (b) FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE- Unless the use of the money is restricted or subject to any limitations provided by law, the Board shall use amounts in the Weather Modification Research and Development Fund-- (1) to pay its expenses in the administration of this Act, and (2) to provide for research and development with respect to weather modifications by grants to, or contracts or cooperative arrangements, with public or private agencies. (c) REPORT- The Board shall submit to the Secretary biennially a report on its findings and research results. SEC. 6. POWERS OF THE BOARD.
(a) STUDIES, INVESTIGATIONS, AND HEARINGS- The Board may make any studies or investigations, obtain any information, and hold any hearings necessary or proper to administer or enforce this Act or any rules or orders issued under this Act. (b) PERSONNEL- The Board may employ, as provided for in appropriations Acts, an Executive Director and other support staff necessary to perform duties and functions under this Act. (c) COOPERATION WITH OTHER AGENCIES- The Board may cooperate with public or private agencies to promote the purposes of this Act. (d) COOPERATIVE AGREEMENTS- The Board may enter into cooperative agreements with the head of any department or agency of the United States, an appropriate official of any State or political subdivision of a State, or an appropriate official of any private or public agency or organization for conducting weather modification activities or cloud-seeding operations. (e) CONDUCT AND CONTRACTS FOR RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT- The Executive Director, with the approval of the Board, may conduct and may contract for research and development activities relating to the purposes of this section. SEC. 7. COOPERATION WITH THE WEATHER MODIFICATION OPERATIONS AND RESEARCH BOARD.
The heads of the departments and agencies of the United States and the heads of any other public or private agencies and institutions that receive research funds from the United States shall, to the extent possible, give full support and cooperation to the Board and to initiate independent research and development programs that address weather modifications. SEC. 8. FUNDING.
(a) IN GENERAL- There is established within the Treasury of the United States the Weather Modification Research and Development Fund, which shall consist of amounts appropriated pursuant to subsection (b) or received by the Board under subsection (c). (b) AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS- There is authorized to be appropriated to the Board for the purposes of carrying out the provisions of this Act $10,000,000 for each of fiscal years 2005 through 2014. Any sums appropriated under this subsection shall remain available, without fiscal year limitation, until expended. (c) GIFTS- The Board may accept, use, and dispose of gifts or donations of services or property. SEC. 9. EFFECTIVE DATE.
This Act shall take effect on October 1, 2005
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by Ben
Saturday, Sep. 24, 2005 at 10:47 AM
Here ya go...here is some more...guess you are the authority ?
You should really comment to facts and state references to articles that are being reported.
NASA Funds Weather Modification Technology
Wired News | May 7, 2004 By Noah Shachtman
For 25 years, Ross Hoffman has had a vision: to use tiny changes in the environment to alter the paths of hurricanes, slow down snow storms and turn dark days bright.
For most of those years, Hoffman kept his ideas largely to himself. His adviser at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology told him weather control was too outlandish for his Ph.D. thesis. The chances of a buttoned-down foundation or government agency funding such research were so slim, Hoffman didn't even bother to ask.
But, in 2001, all that changed. Hoffman stumbled upon a tiny, obscure cranny of the American space program -- the NASA Institute for Advanced Concepts, or NIAC. In this $4 million-a-year agency, Hoffman found a place where the wildest of ideas were not only tolerated, they were welcome.
Shape-shifting space suits? Step right up. Antimatter-powered probes to Alpha Centauri? No problem. Robotic armada to destroy incoming asteroids? Pal, just sign on the dotted line. Weather control seemed downright down to earth in comparison.
Hoffman is now wrapping up his half-million-dollar study for NIAC. But the agency is continuing to bankroll concepts for a future decades away.
Some space analysts wonder how long it can last, however. With NASA in turmoil, and a presidential directive to return to the moon, will a science fiction-oriented agency like NIAC survive?
"They're interested in taking some risks, unlike most other government organizations these days," said Hoffman, a vice president at Atmospheric and Environmental Research in Lexington, Massachusetts. "At NIAC, if it's not risky, it's not going to get funded."
Over the last six years, NIAC has backed 118 studies into the chanciest of propositions: interplanetary rapid transit, aircraft without moving parts, and radio signals bounced off of meteors' trails.
The idea, according to NIAC director Robert Cassanova, is to give concepts 10 to 40 years out a chance to grow, and then to pass those models on to NASA proper for further development.
The agency's best-known baby is the so-called space elevator -- a 62,000-mile twine of carbon nanotubes that would transport cargo into orbit.
Technically, NIAC isn't part of the space agency, Cassanova said. It's a wing of the Universities Space Research Association -- a collection of colleges that work together on final-frontier studies. Through the group, NASA gives Cassanova a few million a year to hand out to way-out researchers. NIAC hands out two types of grants. Six-month Phase I investigations receive $75,000 each. Phase II grants go up to $400,000, for 18 to 24 months of study.
With his award, Hoffman tweaked a weather-prediction program to show that moving a hurricane was possible -- at least in theory. Here's how: You need a ring of satellites in orbit, channeling the sun's energy, stretching around the Earth. The machines would beam power to the planet, using microwaves. But, tuned to 183 GHz, they could also heat up small regions of the atmosphere by a degree or two. Those small changes could have enormous impact, Hoffman's simulation showed. A deadly hurricane, headed for the Hawaiian island of Kauai, drifted off into the Pacific, harmlessly.
"One of the great things about NIAC is that they never say, 'That's crazy, you can never build a fleet of solar-powered space stations,'" Hoffman said.
Such a system is decades off -- if it ever happens at all. But analysts like Brian Chase, vice president of the Space Foundation, see research like Hoffman's as critically important.
"It's impossible to make breakthroughs if all you're funding is immediate, near-term applications," he said.
Chase is concerned, however, that NASA may be pressured to drop its far-out studies.
"These are tight times," he said. "It's tricky balancing how much can be obtained for the moon and Mars versus how much can be obtained for the longer-term stuff. Often, it's one of the first areas to get cut."
NIAC isn't the only arm of the space agency engaged in projects that border on the fantastic. The Marshall Space Flight Center, for example, is looking at propelling spaceships with electrodynamic tethers (PDF). But Marshall can be pretty darn practical, compared to the NIAC folks.
Marshall research asks, "How long can I store antimatter?" said Gerry Jackson, president of Hbar Technologies in West Chicago, Illinois. NIAC studies wonder, "How do I integrate it into spacecraft? How does this affect mission priorities? And how many kilograms can I get to Alpha Centauri in a certain number of years?"
Jackson said Marshall scientists are trapping antimatter a fraction of a billionth of a gram at a time. By his NIAC-funded calculations, a trip to Alpha Centauri will require 17 grams. He figures it would take 20 or 30 years to ramp up to harvesting tens of milligrams per year. And after that, it will only be another decade or so until there's enough antimatter for an Alpha Centauri trip.
So we had better start planning now.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- lets not forget this also...
Resources: Trying to control the weather
USATODAY | August 31, 2005 By Jack Williams
Long before the study of weather became scientific people tried to control the weather - think of rain dances.
When the study of the atmosphere became scientific, people began looking for scientific understanding that would help them exercise at least some control over the weather.
From the late 1940s into the 1960s, the term "weather control" was sometimes used. But, scientists know that no one can "control" the weather. The best that can be done is to change the weather in small ways, such as squeezing a little more precipitation out of clouds than would have otherwise fallen. For a time the term "weather modification" was popular, but few use this term today.
Cloud seeding
The success of cloud seeding using silver iodide or other materials to increase the amount of precipitation from clouds led to the big interest in scientific weather control in the 1950s. It is the one technique of planned weather modification that has been shown to work, at least to some extent.
Chapter 5 of the USA TODAY Weather Book has quite a bit of information on the history of cloud seeding and how it works. (Related: Books about weather)
The Web sites below also have information.
* The scientific basis of cloud seeding, on the Amtospherics, Inc. Web site. * Weather Modification by Cloud Seeding - A Status Report 1989-1997, by William Cotton of Colorado State University * The American Geophysical Union Web site has an extensive report on ''Progress in planned weather modification research: 1991-1994,'' which is a good introduction to the issues and the science involved.
Trying to control hurricanes
From 1961 into 1980 U.S. scientists conducted extensive research into the possibility of weakening hurricanes with cloud-seeding techniques. The project was known as Project Stormfury. While a clear-cut answer to whether hurricanes could be weakened wasn't found, the project made major contributions to hurricane research that are still helping to improve forecasts.
* USATODAY.com FAQ on hurricane modification
The book, Hurricane Watch: Forecasting the Deadliest Storms on Earth by Dr. Bob Sheets and Jack Williams has an entire chapter on Stormfury. Sheets was the project's last director. (Related: Books about weather)
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by Sheepdog
Saturday, Sep. 24, 2005 at 5:26 PM
thanks for the information. I consider all specific ?URLs furnished by posts that have bad vibes to be contrived. I prefer independent search. There is much chaff being thrown about exotic technology. Not enough data and verification for me as yet. I'm agnostic about it willing to parallel query on the same subject matter with an open mind until I hit self referencing or dead end links.
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by Hex
Monday, Sep. 26, 2005 at 12:11 PM
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> Not enough data
not that you're qualified to interpret it anyway..
remember - Tesla is god
And little mrs troll is still hanging on I see
had any good website hackings lately ?
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by Sheepdog
Monday, Sep. 26, 2005 at 1:07 PM
Never said he was ( it was you that began to babble about 'Tesla energy' and to put words into my mouth like telling people that I said he was a god etc. etc. yawn... come up with a quote, dickweed, or STFU ... now back to Tesla ...) anything but the man Westinghouse used to apply and develop ACpower due to his understanding of electromagnetism which was far beyond his time, while you tell me and everyone else you never heard of the metric, 'tesla'. Now you also return to the graphics apparently having difficulty expressing yourself convincingly without them. At least to yourself.
Now kiss and make up with little miss 1st base.
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by Hex
Monday, Sep. 26, 2005 at 5:39 PM
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> it was you that began to babble about 'Tesla energy' > come up with a quote, dickweed here's where you called magnetic energy Teslas - "called the Tesla" as you can see a picture (screen capture) shows it very nicely.. I "express" that your a liar, game player and flake - using your own quoted words one can see lack of even basic science knowledge - I posted units of measure of magnetic energy (Oersteds and Gauss) which you then called me an "idiot". http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/08/134202_comment.php#134211 so now it's "dickweed" - this weeks learning circle/curve tried to bribe your way into not having your flake shit posts hidden - here's $ 100. - I know you want it - wow we lost internet access for a few weeks - I was in no hurry to set up another account but due to pressure from people in the network demanding it I had no choice (screaming for e-mail, e-bay, etc) nothing was wrong - no issues with IMC or anything, I've been BUSY - Rita caused some damage, a camera and wi-fi node went down due to the heavy rain but came back up once the storm passed I actually regained access 6 days ago and ghosted here not wishing to post anything. today's my day off so I had some free time (been working overtime and saving money, worrying about the storm, etc)
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by Sheepdog
Monday, Sep. 26, 2005 at 6:05 PM
Where do I say 'tesla energy' or that tesla was a god, you idiot. I lifted that quote from a tech manual. Are you disturbed like your wife, fresca? You are sounding more like kobe in all the time... Heh heh.
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by Sheepdog
Monday, Sep. 26, 2005 at 6:13 PM
I've been trying to get them to fix the donate page for years. Who is funding this show anyway? I will continue to annoy them, you and anybody who wishes to be the recipient of my mental flagelation, Now it's 'you'
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by Hex
Monday, Sep. 26, 2005 at 7:13 PM
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> continue to annoy them
it's like a spike turning in my skull..
"I will continue to turn it"
I didn't want to name names since the people involved claim they crawl and keyword search this site - but does Gary run a public access free internet hot spot or a pirate radio station ?
these minor details have been brought up before...
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by Sheepdog
Monday, Sep. 26, 2005 at 7:30 PM
The manual was wrong, my suppliers are wrong Everyone is wrong. Better do something about that nail, Whizz. Units: T A Dictionary of Units of Measurement ... One tesla is defined as the field intensity generating one newton of force per ampere of current per meter of ... www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/dictT.html
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by Hex
Monday, Sep. 26, 2005 at 9:20 PM
See that's why I posted the picture of the time machine http://www.websters-dictionary-online.com/oe/oersted.htm Specialty Definition: Oersted The unit is named after Hans Christian Ørsted who discovered electromagnetism in 1820 http://www.websters-dictionary-online.com/definition/gauss The gauss is a unit of magnetic induction The gauss was named for the German mathematician Johann Carl Friedrich Gauss (April 30, 1777-Feb. 23, 1855), who did work in magnetism. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- insert time machine here ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > defined in 1958 < ********************************************************* magnetic definitions ; Anisotropic Magnet A magnet having a preferred direction of magnetic orientation. Coercive force, Hc The demagnetizing force, measured in Oersteds necessary to reduce the induction, B to zero after a magnet has been previously saturated. Curie temperature, Tc The transition temperature above which a material looses its magnetic properties. Flux The condition existing in a material subjected to magnetizing force. The unit of flux is the Maxwell. Gauss Lines of magnetic flux per square centimeter. This is a measure of flux density. Induction, B The magnetic flux per unit area of a section normal to the direction of flux. This is measured in Gauss. Intrinsic Coercive Force, Hci This is a measure of a materials ability to resist demagnetization. This is measured in Oersteds. Irreversible Loss This is defined as the partial demagnetizing of a magnet caused by external factors. Isotropic magnet A magnet material whose magnetic properties are the same in any direction. Magnetic Field strength, H A measurement of the magnetic ability to induce a magnetic field at a given point. This is measured in Oersteds. Magnetic Flux The total magnetic induction over a certain area. Magnetizing Force, H The magnetomotive force per unit length at any point in the magnetic circuit. this is measured in Oersteds. Magnetomotive Force, F The magnetic potential difference between any two points. Maxwell A unit of magnetic flux. One Maxwell is one line of magnetic flux. Oersted, Oe A unit of magnetic field strength or magnetizing force. Orientation Direction The direction in which an anisotropic magnet should be magnetized in order to optimize the magnetic properties. Saturation This is a condition where all magnetic moments have become oriented in one direction. Stabilization Exposing a magnet to demagnetizing influences which are expected in the application in order to prevent irreversible loss during the operation of the magnet. Notice how Oersteds, Gauss and Maxwell all appear as units of magnetic measurement and are based on very old standards going back to the 1800's... Tesla *is not used* - the closest it comes is "abtesla" (abt) which is RECENT (1958) and only used in mining and other specific limited applications and fields... Tesla (as I stated before) is NOT a standard unit of measurement nor a form of energy - magnetic energy is called Oersteds and/or Gauss - even Maxwells isn't standard or common, but still more so than "Tesla". Even if you accept the idea of the recent addition of "Tesla" no magnets are strong enough to produce even one (1) "Tesla" - on the other hand Oersteds and Gauss DO scale to common known and useful flux levels not to mention being defined 100-200 years ago (BEFORE TESLA WAS EVEN BORN) Whoever discovered the energy FIRST or did the most work is generally what ends up being the name given to said energy or measure Oersted and Gauss lived and died long before Tesla was even born... Just like with George Westinghouse - he started installing AC power systems and hence is the one who is considered the "inventor" of AC power - with Tesla it was only scribblings on a paper. This is not to say that Tesla didn't invent anything useful, however other inventors claimed magnetism long before he was even born which is why it's named after them - most of Tesla's ideas were NOT PRACTICAL and in fact some were not even possible - like the "run on anything motor" and utilizing natural static electricity as a power source (lightning is not very useful - extremely high voltage at extremely low current is not easy to deal with) He functions as a magnet for flakes who *don't know any better* because they don't know even simple basic science - the flake's god.. I've seen many posts/comments over the years from people *just like you* who know little to no hard science yet *constantly second-guess* and play word games with people falling back on blind paranoia and other flakes for support. The internet presents a way to build on and feed into this culture - hell even make money *off the ignorance of others* There's a flake born every minute - people who WANT to be lead by the nose who want to take on the world of technology by second-guessing thier way through it insted of applying the thought, time and *attention span* required to actually understand the reality that science is based on. And some discover they can play the expert simply by spewing technobabble that these people are too mentally LAZY to see through. The real problem isn't your sources and heros but the consumers of the flake shit you peddle - for without them you would be completely isolated An example ; When I have occassion to discuss magnetism with someone, if the discussion becomes technical enough Gauss will be brought up.. If I'm talking to a really knowledgeable person Oersteds will come up.. *Tesla never does - it's not a standard unit of measure - it's not used for magnets, recording tape, compasses or electronics* The only place it even has a chance of being refered to is in physics (relating to extremely high flux density) which since me or no one I know has millions of dollars of superconductivity equipment or particle accelerators, etc IT NEVER WILL We can simply refer to TeraGauss - a mathmatical standard reconized the world over for hundreds of years. In practical everyday conversation with real scientists or especially engineers/inventors *only Gauss or Oersteds are used* - Maxwells and Teslas ARE NOT as they refer only to a multiplier NOT the actual original and useful unit of measure. Scientists prefer to use general mathmatical multipliers ; femto, pico, nano, micro, milli, mega, giga, tera If you were a real scientist, inventor or even engineer you would know this.. Insted you waste your time and ours by arguing unsupported and UNIMPORTANT issues because therein lays your opportunity to play the expert - expert at WORD GAMES while hiding your ignorance at basic science. This is the main way I know just how unqualified you are - you don't think about solving problems, you CREATE THEM. You don't figure things out, you GENERATE CONFUSION, don't offer practical solutions, offer UNPRACTICAL PIPE DREAMS. Don't use standard or conventional measures to facilitate communication, use NONSTANDARD AND UNCONVENTIONAL CONVENTIONS TO DISCOURAGE COMMUNICATION, don't attempt to explain or work out or cooperate, CREATE MYSTERIES, HIDE AND WITHDRAW AND RESORT TO CHILDISH NAME CALLING AND WORD GAMES I spend my free time doing things for people for free to help them in ways that are easy for me but which would be harder for them when I'm not working, by designing, inventing and building - implimenting and maintaining. You spend your time thinking about only yourself, DO NOTHING FOR NO ONE (excepting spreading paranoia and flake shit as a "service" to humanity which is really only a service to yourself - your own personal agenda of getting kicks out of playing the expert to people even more gullible than you) As you stated above you are intentionally annoying people with your "information warfare" BS - just a fancy sugarcoated way of saying ABUSIVE And being abusive is a service - like free internet, music and movies no doubt..
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by Sheepdog
Tuesday, Sep. 27, 2005 at 5:11 AM
A dyne an erg, tesla or gauss, who the hell cares. At least I know aabout the metrics on both. So in conclusion, everyone is wrong if they con't use what you are familiar with. Like cartoons.
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by Hex
Tuesday, Sep. 27, 2005 at 5:28 AM
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metrics ?
try using CONVENTIONAL ones like "everyone" else
femto, pico, nano, micro, milli, mega, giga, tera
Tesla does not appear
it's not that "everyone is wrong" since "everyone" else uses these conventions - it's that YOUR WRONG to NOT be using them
this is simple and short enough for even you to grasp
and fit's right in with your dwindling vocabulary under fire from real science too
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by Sheepdog
Tuesday, Sep. 27, 2005 at 6:07 AM
Leapfrog to another lilly pad. Where do I say anything about 'tesla energy' or that Tesla was a god or the fact that you didn't know about the unit of measurement called the 'tesla' or that Tesla not Westinghouse developed AC power or any of the other pronouncements you are so glib with? You can 'get out the crayons' so that we can all be treated to more of your visuals to attempt to have something to post. Maybe you should camp on your warm cozy reputation building threads. I don't mind.
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by Hex
Tuesday, Sep. 27, 2005 at 7:11 AM
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Telsa left school in 1878 without finishing his degree
Telsa worked for a year for Edison
Tesla developed an improved arc light system for a group of NJ businessmen. That was successful, but the businessmen bought him out and he was left without a proper job and ended up digging ditches.
Telsa then went to work for Westinghouse
Westinghouse initially bought an Italian transformer and a German AC generator (alternator) and began developing an AC incadenscent lighting system that would transmit AC power at high voltages to reduce transmission losses.
Westinghouse and his staff developed more efficient transformers and alternators and marketed a very successful system--by 1891 Westinghouse was one of the three leading firms in electric lighting in the U.S.
Tesla had trouble adapting his motor to Westinghouse's AC power
Everyone got discouraged: Tesla left Westinghouse in 1889 and work on the motor was abandoned for three years.
A new more mathematically inclined generation of *school-trained* electrical engineers worked out the new systems.
The Tesla coil was intellectually appealing, but it was not a solution to an existing need.
he patented the idea but did not seek commercial applications
He was doing something closer to engineering science than invention, but he tended to present it in language that was more romantic than scientific.
He dreamed big
In 1899 he ran a pilot project in Colorado Springs where he generated sparks up to 135 feet long, but the transmitted energy also knocked out the Colorado Springs power station and caused it to catch on fire.
At one time he was certain he had received signals from another planet in his Colorado laboratory, a claim that was met with derision in some scientific journals.
in 1896 he lost his royalty from Westinghouse
developed a power station on Long Island, that did not turn into an operating plant for either radio or power transmission.
Tesla became isolated and embittered:
he had always been eccentric, and became more so
died in 1943 at the age of 86, penniless and relatively unrecognized
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by Sheepdog
Tuesday, Sep. 27, 2005 at 7:34 AM
And I hope that anyone interested in or about this man's works will do their own digging, now that we have heard the corporate ( Whizz ) and the independent (me ) viewpoints on the contributions to today's technology that are directly attributable to Nicoli Tesla. Search engines are cool.
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by Hex
Tuesday, Sep. 27, 2005 at 8:08 AM
> corporate ( Whizz ) and the independent (me ) viewpoints
BS - thats simple HISTORY - historical fact
I'm an independent inventor *much like Tesla* however I have a solid background in science and concentrate on designs that are useful that help people here & now. This whole worship folly cult thing you flakes do is based on IGNORANCE - both of what he did (and more importantly didn't do) and especially ignorance of SCIENCE.
Calling historic fact "viewpoint" is just another lie, another way to FUD your way through the issue.
The real question isn't what Tesla did 100 years ago - it's WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW.
You know what I'm doing - I've posted it several times, free internet, radio, music, movies
What YOU'RE doing is spamming and annoying, lying and confusing, playing games and wasting time
I design, invent build and impliment electronic circuits and systems that actually DO SOMETHING and use them to help people.
I don't waste my or other's time on pipe dreams - pie in the sky romantic PR salesmanship activities because *I'm not selling anything* - Edison and Westinghouse were motivated by money it could be fairly argued and Tesla was motivated by fame - that's why he couldn't rise above poverty by managing his money yet found the time to travel to give LECTURES.
I seek neither fame or fortune - invention is simply a part of life with the focus being HELPING PEOPLE and staying in touch with reality.
Going off on half-baked wild ideas, dreaming big and giving lectures on things that DON'T MATTER and AREN'T USEFUL is NOT what invention is about.
People like him give inventors a bad name - people said so then and I'm saying it now - AS an inventor I find your cult worship insulting and your BS flake shit posts are but the excrement of your affliction - NOT the ignored critically important wisdom you try to present it as.
Your not even qualified to determine what's real v fake, or actual science from quackery.
Posting jet trail pictures hundreds of times ALONE shows this, not to mention claiming radio waves are deadly, mind control, "emod" etc. Like the info on the weather modification posted recently - when you bother to read the details you see that it's just the same old CONVENTIONAL methods of cloud seeding combined with weather forcasting.
You post this as some sort of proof of something much more hoping the average reader WON'T look into (or understand) the details *just as you don't* because you're too busy collecting more short attention span flake shit for your next round of spam posts.
The single most telling sign of your personal affliction is how you consistantly reject any/all things conventional yet automaticly blindly embrace anything wild and conspiracy.
That's the real agenda - to spread your condition to infect other's with the same ignorance based paranoia you have.
It's about you and what you can fool others into believing, not about helping people in the here & now on thier own terms and conventions. The spam is about what you can get away with and how much you can annoy and waste - not about cooperation, getting along and working with others.
Your keyword "information warfare" is the giveaway
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by Sheepdog
Tuesday, Sep. 27, 2005 at 8:28 AM
So you Don't want anybody to do their own search and you feel as if you are the final authority! Very clear. ***
As to the murder of NO, the FEMA actions on stopping assistance to the survivors at least counts as principle co-conspirators in the case of MANY needless deaths. Like the fire dept keeping the neighbors away when people are trapped inside, while doing nothing.
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by Hex
Tuesday, Sep. 27, 2005 at 8:51 AM
> you Don't want anybody to do their own search and you feel as if you are the final authority!
words in my mouth - rhetorical word games
You didn't present any search results - I DID
You simply claimed historical facts are opinions - implying truth doesn't exist in it's own right but is simply perception in a war of words..
In your world it probably is
As to New Orleans I've been collecting data on the situation and agree
This is not to say that no conspiracies exist just that you stamp scientific data and events with the label automaticly based on what you don't understand or know, and that it's your own fault for not investing the time and thought to look into the details
Details you so often bring up in the context of doing so and implore others to.
The basic problem is that there isn't enough time for everyone separately to re-invent the wheel and so people DO depend on others to do the research for them.
People who you do things for free with no strings attached - that you demonstrate your intentions to - are more likely to rely on and accept your word than people who see you as a mentally unbalanced paranoid who has his own agenda.
Like the people here in our network. I provide security and solve problems (for example disinfecting computers and eliminating pop-ups, ad's, provide anon proxies, test them myself, use them myself, etc..)
I am part of a group here that DOES accept my word largely just because of such activities.
Your catch phrase is "trust no one" and you fail to provide any sign or service of trustworthyness..
This puts us in different worlds as far as dealing with people goes. I expend effort to prove my intentions by doing real-world physical activities with people as part of a group (just like the staff of IMC does with thier circle of friends and group)
We have parallel experiences which is why we can relate to and work with concepts such as getting along, working things out, not being a pest or annoying, not making oneself unwelcome
I am on guard both here, at work and online for signs of problems like these and attempt to prevent or abate such events
HOW ABOUT YOU ?
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by Sheepdog
Tuesday, Sep. 27, 2005 at 9:02 AM
Sometimes I have time for this board like when I'm waiting for parts, tools or materials. I can mutitask.
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by Patrick D.
Wednesday, Jun. 21, 2006 at 5:07 PM
Mr. Max Mayfield is just what his title says, a HURRICANE EXPERT. He understands what he is talking about, has studied the behavior and climatology of hurricanes all of his life, and as a result is one of the leading hurricane scientists in the world. I do not know you, but I highly doubt that you are a meteorologist, and you obviously have not studied anything on the issue other than what politicians and extreme climatologists throw in your face. I am a meteorologist...one who believes just what Mr. Mayfield has stated...Global Warming is happening, but it is not affecting hurricanes...you'll see in a decade or two when we'll be back down to 9 or 10 named storms per season......oh, by the way, look up the Atlantic Multi-Decadal Oscillation
www.cyberhurricane.com
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by Lord Locksley
Wednesday, Jun. 21, 2006 at 5:34 PM
Dr. Neil Frank here in Houston was Mayfield's predecessor at the National Hurricane Center and he tells me that Mayfield is correct...that the current spate of more severe hurricanes is cyclical and that the global warming cassandras are simply wrong to suggest that they are somehow intensified by man made greenhouse gasses....global warming has been a fact of meteorological life for 200 yrs now....since the end of the 'little ice age' that lasted for nearly 500 yrs.....whether or not man plays a part in global warming is irrelevant.....1000 yrs ago it was warm enough for grapes to be grown in England...so much so that English wines were superior to their French counterparts.....when or if the Earth's climate eventually becomes that warm again, then I might start worrying about it...in the meantime,the climatic panty-wetters should be seen for what they are....semi-literate socialist ideologues who think they can scare people with their hysterical rants and thereby repeal the Industrial Revolution and effect a triumphant return to the 18th century....be that as it may, we shouldnt underestimate the effects of 'global warming'...I mean look what it did to anAL GOREtentive...it turned him into a fat-assed bullshit artist who tried to steal the Presidency
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