Lately, on this site, there have been posts pointing to Infowars.com and/or referring to Alex Jones.

A quick perusal of their site will show that they bash the ACLU as "socialists" and support neo-fascist fugitive poster-boy of the white-supremicist scene, Eric Rudolph.

The far-right nationalist fascists are just as paranoid about the police as the far-left direct action radicals. They both mistrust tracking technology, corporations, cops, and government, but that's their only affinity. Beyond that, they have radically different visions of the future.

Anarchists, socialists/communists, and pacifists generally end up lumped together because they have an internationalist vision of people united across national boundaries, democracy, and world peace.

Neo-fascists, libertarians, and the far right are lumped together because they have a nationalist vision of closed borders, poverty, discrimination, and national defense.

Lyndon Larouche is the paramount example. His chameleon politics conform to whatever's popular among the angry. Today, it's the anti-Bush and "peace" scenes. You see the Larouche cultists at every event passing out papers.

http://www.publiceye.org/larouche/nclcmain.html

"Beginning in the 1970s, the LaRouchites combined populist antielitism with attacks on leftists, environmentalists, feminists, gay men and lesbians, and organized labor. They advocated a dictatorship in which a “humanist” elite would rule on behalf of industrial capitalists. They developed an idiosyncratic, coded variation on the Illuminati Freemason and Jewish banker conspiracy theories."

Jeff Rense is another symp or dupe to the right wing libertarian paranoids. Look at his site - it's full of weird UFO stories, anti-police, anti-state, and other curiosities. Some of these definitely appeal to the Left, but, where's the real politics? What kind of society do they envision when the lies are exposed?

Not all anti-globalization activists are progressive. Many are anti-UN isolationists. They have a tendency to be anti-immigrant too, and at least one truly neo-fascist anti-glob website has turned up. It's a front group designed to lure people into hate groups.

I posit that they want to create an American fascism, a strong nationalism that's open to anyone from any race, as long as they are willing to close borders and kill outsiders. They believe that America should remain a capitalist superpower, but one that doesn't engage in foreign policy.

Please, IMC, remove this right-wing ideology masking as "anarchism" of some sort. Anarchism isn't about cutting the heads off government; it's about growing the grassroots, and eliminating the need for larger governments.

I should add that there seem to be many different strains of "libertarians". Some are just confused pro-business Democrats stuck in Republican strongholds like San Diego or Orange County, who think Democrats are all socialists. Go switch parties already.

Some are pro-America paranoids. I'd call them neo-fascists. Though they will use a word like anti-fascist and fear the police state, they are actually fascists. Their vision of the future is small scale militias to enforce the local right to separate from the rest of society. How does this not become ethnic cleansing?

Some are just greedy hedonists, aka Republicans who smoke pot. They feel alienated from society, or view society as hostile, and soothe themselves with money, drugs, and perhaps prostitutes.

The most benign (and smartest) seem to be the theorists. They're like some anarchists, but they're into the "free market" and believe it has a morality of sorts. Obviously, they haven't ever worked for private industry at the low end of the labor market for a long time. lewrockwell.com is a good example of this. Like other libertarians, they're mostly white, and don't believe racism really exists.

(Some of these last libertarians, you gotta respect though, because they really are like anarchists: they would accept poverty to gain freedom.)

Alex Jones is rightwing. I have no doubt about that. However, he provides useful information. There is nothing about his website or the information that he provides that is any kind of danger to our movement.

Alex Jones does not claim to be an anarchist. He is not an anarchist. The shills post makes false claims that Jones claims to be anarchist.

At this moment we are at war with a fascist regime. Broad coalitions are needed to fight the fascist regime. Alex Jones is a communitarian. I see no problem with forming mutually beneficial alliances across ideological lines when the goal is to bring down a fascist regime.

www.TheFloydReport.com http://www.TheFloydReport.com



Nov. 14, 2003

By Jeremy Floyd

I am one of the radio talk show hosts on Genesis and I must now release

several things starting with this.

I must also tell you that the audio archives dealing with www.m2ktalk.net http://www.m2ktalk.net has sealed this interview and to my knowledge may not be back up in the near future.

As well, others have the right to know first hand this story from Barbara Hartwell is true. Barbara did get cut from Genesis last night on my program and it was out of my control. The infomation I am about to post here is in the event that I do not post on this message board in the future.

There is a real good chance this may be one of the last posts I post on here for a while, given the current situation but I will try to update this situation as to what has happened the best I can.



The following infomation that I am about to post took place on my radio program last night on Genesis Communications radio network.

What I am about to report to you took place and you can take any of what I am about to say as hearsay if you want, but this has been an on going problem that I have had to deal with for a number of years, dealing with people I have gotten on the air and talked about issues other people will not cover.

In this case it deals with the Franklin Coverup and people directly involved in covering up the incident John Decamp, Ted Gunderson, & George Pender, Known as "Operation Brownstone".

After this book was released a second book was put out following up book one, The Franklin Coverup, to continue to coverup the incidents involving child abuse, rape and other things.

It was done by these 2 [Gunderson and DeCamp] after the infomation leaked out on radio years ago. These 2 where used by the CIA to spin the story about what really happend and who was really involved.

In regards to this incident that took place tonight.



[Barbara Hartwell : I exposed for the first time on radio last night on Jeremy's show, that John DeCamp was in fact INVOLVED in the pedophilia, child sex abuse and blackmailing of politicians in the Franklin case. I confronted Ted Gunderson with what I knew in November 1999 ( I have never revealed my source, and nobody would believe me if I did) and at that time Gunderson ADMITTED to me that he KNEW of DeCamp's involvement. That was the beginning of the end of my association with Ted Gunderson, as I could not in good conscience continue to endorse him or work with him.]

You can take what I am about to say anyway you want.

During the interview I got a call from Alex Jones and the person that was running the show at the time, a woman by the name of Stephanie, told me during a break that Alex Jones wanted to talk to me after the broadcast about the person that I was having on the air in this case Barbara Hartwell.

After which I thought nothing of it at the time and continued with the interview.



Later, about 5 mins towards the last half of the 2 hour show, about 7:31 pm Mountain time, I was told another message from Stef that Michael Trudeau, who I have been told and have a letter from, is the Vice President of Genesis, told me and the board operator that I had to let my guest [Barbara Hartwell] go. I was not told why and didn't do it.

After coming back from the 30 min break, Barbara had about 3 min and 20 seconds, from my best guess before Genesis cut her with out my permission.

But there is more. There is one last commerical that takes place at about :45 after or rather closer to :50 after the hour, at which time I got another call from Alex Jones saying to me the following.

That this issue with Ted Gunderson he knew all about, but that I was not and I quote NOT to contact Barbara Hartwell or Stew Webb again or have them on the program again. What needs to be said beyond this are several things but I don't have alot of time left to explain this sitution so I will try to be brief.

I had never heard of Stew Webb until early this year, about 3 or so months after doing the broadcast. At which time I have seen him put out infomation dealing with the bombs that were placed on bridges up in New York and had him on the broadcast at the time dealing with this issue.

Later it did come out where a man had plans to blow up bridges in New York and that Ashcroft had arrested this man and group in relation to these charges.

PAUSE…

Note about Stew Webb : I have Named some of these "Criminal Government Agents" & Government Provocateurs (Domestic Contact Services) in My Federal Grand Jury Demand Dated July 3, 2003 Case Number 95-Y-107

Filed U.S. District Court Denver Colorado.

Attached are links to my web-site http://stewwebb.com , which lay out in detail who these people named herein really are.

My Reputation and Credentials Stand On Their Own.

See the Links Below.

Thank You

Stew Webb

Federal Whistleblower

http://www.stewwebb.com

mailto:stewwebb@sierranv.net

mailto:stewwebb@stewwebb.com

See: the follow reports on http://www.stewwebb.com

Go to Table of Contents:

1. Federal Grand Jury Demand July 3, 2003

2. Government Stalkers & Patriot Spies

3. Breaking News Top Secret Bush Crime Family Documents Ted Gunderson sells Stingers to Terrorist Bin Laden. Why is Gunderson not in jail?

Document on Ted Gunderson & Michael Michael Riconosciuto Treason against America & Inslaw Software Big Brother Listening Everywhere.

4. McMartin Preschool Case

5. Inslaw

6. Also see my latest posting of over 20 Top Secret Bush Crime Family Treasonous Documents under Breaking News. Showing Bush & Russia Behind 9-11 WTC NY 9-11-2001.

There are several 9-11 documents to prove this.

Office of Naval Intel Veeland Document 9-11.

Anthrax killing Bush Behind it, documents prove it.

7. Keep checking out my Dailey articles and postings of "The Crimes of The Bush Crime Family"

Thank You for putting up with all this crap, it had to be explained because of the Governments disinformation campaign against many of us Whistleblower. Thank You Stew Webb Federal Whistleblower

…CONTINUE

There is another story dealing with that, I will get into another time but this is a small example as to when this man [Stew Webb] turned out to be right.

Nevertheless, several months ago I had Stew Webb come on in relation to Ted Gunderson working for the CIA now, when he used to work for the FBI. Stew at the time had been demonized in relation to his infomation being false.

So as a follow up what lead to this current sitution, this is part of what happened in the past, if I dont get to update this for a while.

Going on Stew had somehow, don't ask me how, he had gotten ahold of Ted Gunderson's file when he still worked for the FBI and posted a file dealing with Ted Gunderson's past work as a member of the FBI. This file shows where when Ted was still working for the FBI he sold Stinger Missles to Afghanistan for the Rebels to be used against the Russian forces that were there at the time.

Next, Ted Gunderson first came out and denied the infomation that was presented in this case. But later, on this network, admitted it on a show called The Fountain Truth. At which time he later on this show, admitted to selling these missles to Afghanistan Rebels while he was still working for the FBI.

Take my word for it when I tell you, when this document was put out I got alot more then alot of heat from people at Genesis, in this first case the heat came from John Stadtmiller, host of The National Intel Report, also on Genesis. Well, after all of this (by the way this was not the first time I was threatened by this man, the last time was over a man by the name of Kurt Billings) this was the first incident dealing with, for lack of a better word, heat... this heat later came to what I reported up above dealing with Alex.

I will go on and explain more later dealing with the omega project I took part of here at ats. but must explain more of the situation at hand.

Now with this current show I also did this yesterday, dealing along the lines of the same issue.

At the time nothing was said until today.

I have been on the verge of leaving Genesis for about a month and a half and I intend to make the announcement that I intend to do so later on tomorrow.

See, here is the thing: there is so much more to this story and what it is I have seen since being on this network, it's going to take me weeks posting articles like this, but it boils down to this. This Ted Gunderson issue is so hot that Alex Jones called me 3 times in a 40 min period to get me to stop what it was I was broadcasting [Barbara Hartwell] not to mention the vice president of Genesis, Michael Trudeau.

Someone at Genesis, or rather quite a few people at Genesis had somthing to lose or that would be affected by the broadcast that I was doing otherwise it would not have been shut down.

Now, like I said, this is firsthand from me. I am the host of my show which will no longer be on the air as of tomorrow, due to the fact this is the 3rd time this has happened, where I have been screamed at for this issue and not to mention other incidents dealing with this Omega Project I was assigned at ats. All of this, belive it or not, ties together.



But I do need to get some other things done in relation to what kind of firestorm I am going to face on this tomorrow.



But what you need to know is simply this: There is a ton more to this story that I will be making public here first in the future. I was also told to take Alex Jones phone call in regard to this situation as to what he knew, this was supposed to take place last night after the broadcast and didn't. It will happen sometime this morning, but all things provided this information is being put here, in the event that I do not get back to post

more on this issue right away.

Jeremy Floyd

from the Floyd Report

A update will be posted on the floyd report tomorrow regarding this

development.

Fri Nov 14, 2003

Barbara Hartwell

Legal Defense and Research Fund

PO Box 7487

Ocean Park, Maine

04063

Website: http://www.barbarahartwell.com



URGENT ALERT ! FIRST AMENDMENT/TALK SHOW HOSTS UNDER FIRE !

This evening, November 13, I was a guest on The Floyd Report, hosted by Jeremy Floyd on the GCN network. www.TheFloydReport.com http://www.TheFloydReport.com



The topic for discussion was FBI COINTELPRO and the ops being run by ex-FBI agent Ted L. Gunderson and his government dupes and provocateurs. I exposed information regarding the CIA, FBI, mind control operations, Op Phoenix and Op Gladio assassinations and the neutralization campaign against myself, Stew Webb and others.

I exposed the SWAT team raid against Stew Webb in Las Vegas, sent by Ted Gunderson. They broke the door down with assault rifles, threw grenades and destroyed the home where Stew was living.



The charges were later dropped against Stew for LACK of EVIDENCE.



In the last half hour of the program, just as I was trying to finish the SWAT team story, I was informed that Jeremy would have to "let me go". I was then abruptly cut off.

I don't blame Jeremy. He called me after the show and apologized. Jeremy was given the order by GCN executives to cut me off. He was told he was not allowed to ever have me or Stew Webb on the show again !

Jeremy will soon be coming forward with more specific information, as to WHO was responsible for this directive, which I will be reporting. The names may surprise you.

Jeremy Floyd is a defender of the Constitution. If he has to leave GCN network because of what they did on tonight's show, he will.

But there's more....

On November 11, Stew Webb was a guest on The Byte Show with Georgeann Hughes, discussing the same topic.

You may hear the show here:

http://www.thebyteshow.com/Library.html



On November 12, Stew was on the phone with Georgeann, while she was attempting to upload the show into the archives on her website. Suddenly, her lights and electricity went out, and her phone was cut off.

Georgeann saw a car outside, pulling up in front of her home. The headlights were off.

I just spoke to Georgeann a few minutes ago, in a conference call with Stew.

While on the phone with Stew and Georgeann, a car pulled up right outside my house.

I went out, turned the porch lights on and called out to the driver, Who the hell are you and what do you want ?

The car peeled out and fled the scene.

It is clear that Ted Gunderson, his cronies and his overlords in the Bush Crime Family DO NOT want the information we are exposing to come out.

I am writing this report to make sure that everyone knows what is happening to those of us who have the courage to TELL THE TRUTH.

I will be a guest on Georgeann's show in the near future.

We will NOT STOP exposing the truth !

My message to the FBI, CIA and NWO:

I've had ENOUGH of Y'all !

DON'T TREAD ON ME.

Barbara Hartwell

Touche - Alex Jones has not said he's an anarchist. His minions, however, are using the IMC as a vehicle for establishing some kind of legitimacy with the Left, and the judith mpls have a distinct anarchist/libertarian tone to them. I think it's a "recruiting tactic".

We don't need alliances with people who, deep down, are nationalists. Seriously. The US government isn't going to be toppled any time soon. Even if it were, consider what would happen:

As the government weakens, the nationalists and statists will come into conflict, and either the statists will consolidate power and prevail, or the nationalists will seize power (probably with some kind of "power share" offer). Ultimately, the nationalists will turn against the anarchists, and become another kind of dictatorship. This is all fantasy, of course.

More realistically, look at it in terms of fundamental ideologies that you're going to use to organize communities. What do people in Cali care about? Immigration, cost of living, civil rights, police brutality, the drug war, hate crimes, racism against Arabs, work, war.

Where does a right winger paranoid find common cause with anarchy (or socialism, or liberalism)?

The overlap is minimal. I'd hazard some guesses about where my strain of anarchy and the crypto-fascists diverge:

Moreover, I'd say that the whole Alex Jones project reeks of a fascination with power that comes off like a paranoid, reactionary kind of Leninism. I see no future in tacit alliances with the likes of Alex Jones.

If there's any alliances to make, it's actually with pacifists. Not necessarily the hippy pacifists, but with the global movement for nonviolent reconciliation that changed the government in South Africa. At the individual level, this has already happened.

Another fruitful alliance is with unionists. Anarchism helped start the American labor movement, and much of the grassroots spirit lives on in organizations like the TDU.

This is NOT COINTELPRO talking here. COINTELPRO always sought to increase conflicts, to create fights, and increase violence. When the feds got into Earth First! what did they do? The agent goaded people to perform ever riskier direct action, while, at the same time, denigrating the eco-labor alliances being created by people like Judy Bari. What did they do to the Black Panthers? They subverted the BP neighborhood social programs, and created conflicts between the political activists in the BP and the cultural nationalists in US (United Slaves).

Focusing energy on these big issues has value, but, information from folks like Jones and others needs to be taken critically. Moreover, these big issues can fire you up emotionally, but can paralyze you to other kinds of local action -- after you've been blown away by the Spectacle of a 911 coverup, doing something like pushing for a education budget increase seems pointless.