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The Steak....

by Rational Normal Person Friday, Aug. 22, 2003 at 1:57 AM

Independant? I think not....

Subject : Now, let us analyse this post from an INDEPENDANT MEDIA COLLECTIVE MODERATOR.

Posted : 2003-08-20 11:50 PM

Post #1757 - In reply to #1756

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The LA IMC has met together and confered with other imc's about the attacks from hostile(read :- postings that do not agree with the IMC Collective opinion) postings. The IMC network places great value on freedom of expression. It's one of the hallmarks of the indymedia network. Some of us(read:- some, not a majority, and no reference to names or numbers) have come the the conclusion that these attacks are orchestrated deliberately from individuals, agencies, or institutions to specifically degrade the newswire to lessen its impact and effectiveness.

It has been decided by consensus that these attacks are degrading the newswire by deliberate hostility that is a turn off to most readers as well as an intentional dumbing down of the messages brought to the newswire that are not seen in any mainstream venue. (read:- some IMC moderators don't like anything that is posted that goes against their ideology)

But what is wrong with just posting an image of a steak, you may ask? The posting of a steak is meant to taunt the hunger strikers (No it is the equivalent of posting a "cartoon" the picture of a steak says much more about the posters opinion of this "hunger stike than a thousand words could) that are moved by our (now we are getting to the meat of the issue... OUR EFFORTS??? an Independant Media Collective is activly promoting causes it believes in?.. No you should not be biased at all...) efforts to bring attention to their plight. The editorial collective has been identifying those efforts that are specifically aimed at degrading the newswire content and removing their 'contributions'. (read:- Anything against the efforts of the "collective" will be removed)

We have collectively decided that this newswire is an uncommon commons where people should feel both welcome to contribute their ideas and not be unduely subject to degrading taunts when they do so. (you must have missed the nigger references on LA IMC....) For example, the person who posted the steak is free to post the image in another newswire article and to speak his mind about the removal at this posting. We do not remove conservative or Republican politics or any sarcasm out of hand. If it doesnt violate editorial policy with pornography, harrassing threats, or slander, it will not be removed. The brave hunger strikers, however will be allowed to draw inspiration from our efforts on this post (Finally!!!! the INDEPENDANT media center of LA admits it is not really independant, the moderators are supporting a cause...)without being taunted in their weakended condition or having the importance of their message dumbed down by a comment that is aimed deliberately at degrading their message or their struggle.

Comments welcome at

http://www.kobehq.com/KOBEBOARDS3/FORUM/thread-view.asp?threadid=1044&MessageID=1756#1756

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The steak debate.

by Rational Normal Person Friday, Aug. 22, 2003 at 2:00 AM

LA IMC admits it supports certain causes.... So what makes it different to FOX or MSNBC?????

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WHAT???

by Dumbed Down Friday, Aug. 22, 2003 at 2:40 AM

"having the importance of their message dumbed down by a comment that is aimed deliberately at degrading their message or their struggle."

So....posting a message about impeaching the President in the same thread as a pro-freedom post in the support of our troops isnt "deliberately at degrading their message or their struggle"????

Hypocrisy is alive and well here. Along with its partners: Censorship and Dogma. PATHETIC.

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Editorial Policy

by The Kollektive Friday, Aug. 22, 2003 at 8:24 AM

We are the Kolleltive. We believe strongly in the basic human right of freedom of expression. However, that right extends, of course, only to leftists and anarchists. Conservatives need not apply. This is in no way oppression, as oppression by definition only applies to non-whites and non-conservatives.

We are the Kollektive. We also believe in the last acceptable prejudices: hatred of Jews and of Christians. We try to disguise this by calling Christians "intolerant, hateful oppressors", and by calling Jews "Zionists", who, of course, plan to take over the world. We are against oppressive religions, except for radical Islam

We are the Kollektive. Our heroes are all the murderous, genocidal, torturing despots who have ever lived. We deny they are such, and instead place those labels on the leaders of the free world.

We are the Kollektive. We will not tolerate obscene of hateful speech from conservatives. All others are by definition loving, caring, tolerant people and are incapable of obscenity or hate.

We are the Kollektive. We are incapable of hypocrisy, therefor, none exists here.

We are the Kollektive. Any posts which violate this loving, caring, open-minded and tolerant policy will be as if they had never been.

We are the Kollektive. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated, unless you have the capacity for rational, independant thought; then you will be deleted.

We are the Kollektive.

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A disembodied voice from the void

by Disembodied Voice Friday, Aug. 22, 2003 at 7:33 PM

Speaking to you from the void known as the "Kollective Korner for Kut Komments", I am a disembodied voice. Where I once had substance, I now only have vague comment references to that which once was, and now is not. The realm of "The Deleted:, where all posts not approved by the IMC Pantheon go to be banished.

"Let there be no voice which speaks openly! May all opposition be banished forever, never to be seen again" - The Kollective

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dear Collective

by Sheepdog Friday, Aug. 22, 2003 at 7:46 PM

thank you for not deleting any of my comments thoughts and/or rants. And as you all know, that's all that is important.
I'm so popular.

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OneEyedMan

by KPC Friday, Aug. 22, 2003 at 8:21 PM

Please censor me so I too may demonstrated an inflated sense of my own importance.....

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Look at me!

by Shill 3®¥¨µà Friday, Aug. 22, 2003 at 9:00 PM

I am a pathetic whiner. I preach hatred and familiy fascist values and violence and racism. I also post porno when I disagree with someone. I'm too stupid to build my own website so I came here looking for something to do. It's not fair. I like cops, I think monsanto is a great company. I drive a truck with flag decals. I'm a good christian ideologue and if you don't agree with me I want to kill you. How come you don't like me?

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