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Dennis Kucinich in Orange County

by TCR Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 1:32 PM

Choose, America WAR or PEACE. Kucinich is the man of peace. PHOTOS & COMMENTARY Meeting presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich in So. Cal.

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Subj: Just met Dennis in Orange County, CA

Dennis was great. He's a very passionate, motivated and energetic speaker who has the clear conviction of morality on his side.

I believe that this next presidential election can be described as a clear choice between war and peace.

Bush (and most of the Democratic challengers) = WAR.

Kucinich = PEACE.

Dennis has a warm, friendly personality and a sharp intellect. Definitely see what the man has to say at

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Dennis and supporters at the Santa Ana Courthouse.

by TCR Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 1:32 PM

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Dennis and supporters at the Santa Ana Courthouse.

by TCR Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 1:32 PM

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Dennis and friend.

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Speaking on the courthouse steps.

by TCR Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 1:32 PM

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As far as Howard Dean goes, he will NOT bring us peace in my estimation. When Howard Dean makes statesments such as the following list, it indicates to me that he is just another wolf in sheep's clothing:

Howard Dean:

"...Iraq is an imminent threat to the nations in the region, but he doesn't happen to be an imminent threat to the United States."

-Howard Dean,David Corn Interview, Radio Nation, March12, 2003

Clearly untrue. Iraq after two wars, a devastated infrastructure, and 12 years of medieval styled sanctions was in no, way shape or form an "imminent threat" to even the nations of the region. The neighbors of Iraq stood against authorizing the use of force.

Howard Dean:

"You know, the person I admire the most -- even though I disagree with his conclusions -- is Joe Lieberman, because Joe Lieberman said from the outset that he was a hawk. He believed we should go into Iraq now. That they were a present danger, and that he supports the president's unilateral war."

-Dean, same interview

This is something to "admire?" On national radio? As an alleged "anti-war candidate?" This man is a fraud. Lieberman should be kicked out of the Democratic party as being a non-Democrat. And Dean "admires" him.

Howard Dean:

"I think North Korea's likely to go nuclear on this president's watch and we are fighting the wrong war at the wrong time."

-Dean, same interview

So ... we should be bombing North Korea, Howard? Which war should we be fighting exactly? And why? And do you have better evidence for this new war than Bush and Cheney managed to manufacture over Iraq?

Howard Dean:

"But Joe (Lieberman) has stood up for his convictions everywhere even when it was not popular to do so."

-Dean, same interview

So did Adolph Hitler. So what?

Lieberman's "convictions" are the problem, and the reason the Democrats in congress voted King Chimp unlimited warmongering authority.

Obviously these "convictions" aren't a problem in the eyes of Howard Dean. Dean has not questioned the rationale of the alleged "War on Terror" and cites the term several times in his interview.

Dean Interview Audio


Newsday article: "Dean says he misspoke at AFL-CIO debate"

(See the debate through C-Span:

Dean "misspoke."

When I ms-speak, they say I'm lying. I guess Dean has been annointed by the press as the new golden boy. The liar.

If he's already lying to the world, folks, what makes you think he's going to tell you the truth as president of the United States?

I've had it up to here with lying scum.

Another Dean Lie I just discovered:

PBS Newshour Online, 2/25/03

"FMR. GOV. HOWARD DEAN: What they voted for was to allow the president of the United States to attack Iraq unilaterally without going back to Congress. So the four folks that I'm running against who are from Congress all voted to give the president that power. The objection that I have... the greatest objection is for the folks that voted for it and then went to Iowa and California and pretended they are against the war. That doesn't wash. We're not going to elect a president of the United States but nominating somebody who says one thing and does something else, and appears to be willing to say whatever it takes to become president. "

Mr. Dean:

You are running against Dennis Kucinich.

Dennis Kucinich is "from Congress."

Dennis Kucinich did NOT vote to give the president that power.

Therefore, Dean, you are a liar.

And it appears that you are "willing to say whatever it takes to become president."

Another article:

Howard Dean, Hawk in Dove's Cloting?

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Where are the protesters? Expose Loretta Brixley Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 2:40 PM
im glad you posted josh Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 4:09 PM
Dean is not antiwar wavemaster Saturday, Aug. 09, 2003 at 2:12 AM
class d, huh? josh Saturday, Aug. 09, 2003 at 2:31 AM
No More Feel Good Campaigns Michael Saturday, Aug. 09, 2003 at 4:40 AM
TCR posted many reasons... mr wilson Monday, Aug. 11, 2003 at 12:09 AM
Taking Dean out of context Erik Aronesty Friday, Nov. 07, 2003 at 4:15 PM

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