could someone from the imc explain what happened to the website for the past i don't know how many hours?

i know this kind of thing is bound to happen now and then but it would cure at least some of my frustration if i know *why* it went down. ..

or it could have been another assult by armor and A-10s using
DU and napalm.
If past experience is any clue, we will never know.

on hiatus or something. He may be lurking closeby in the weeds, or in iraq or iran or colum...//geez he mite have taken over this website!!...daveman still lives, i guess.

it's sad that whoever is managing the technical end doesn't care enough to ask for help - or even tell us what is going on.

by my count la-imc lost funtion for more than twenty hours out of the last two days.
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your mysterious breakdown

2. la-imc should publicly post explanations of significant or total losses of funtcion as soon as possible after the lapses occur. when explanations are unavailable for any reason, that should also be posted. these notices should tell imc users how they can help. all this info should be highly visible.

shouldn't minutes from la-imc meetings be posted publicly on the la-imc website?
alternative media?
some links
intersections
latest comments
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anticrisis

In contrast to the active ignorance of the need for transparency at LA-IMC, 'Jeff' at AZ-IMC is at least answering numerous queries about losses of site function at AZ-IMC.

'Jeff' at AZ-IMC here tries to shed some light on "Arizona Indymedia Technical Problems"

too bad nobody in LA-IMC collective is interested in dealing with the same things here in a principled transparent way.

reply to 'Jeff' - (for some reason this comment is displayed in a different thread than where it was posted)

a related dialogue with 'Jeff'

"....an opportunity for resume building [for] privleged white liberals....."
"if only IMC meant more threads like this one from NYC-IMC...."
http://www.angrynerds.com/readings/ojrc.html">ahttp://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/03/43143_comment.php#43294">nhttp://la.indymedia.org/news/2002/12/23562_comment.php">thttp://www.rmfdevelopment.com/political/LAIM_USImperialism_timeline.htm">ihttp://la.indymedia.org/news/?comments=yes&medium=&keyword=lynx-11">chttp://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/03/35537_comment.php#36301">rhttp://www.parecon.org/">ihttp://www.neravt.com/left/newslinks.html">shttp://www.zmag.org/chomsky/search.cfm">ihttp://la.indymedia.org/news/2002/09/19056_comment.php#23141">s
lynx

latest AZ comments

latest L.A. comments

to LA-IMC Collective: having problems (with "your" site)? don't worry - someday you won't be so ashamed to ask for help (with "your" site). and then your problems will probably be solved (by us).

in the meantime.....

some transparency at AZ-IMC.... still none here.
about the way our IMC sites work....

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8/02/03:
it seems like "latest comments" pages, like the one at la-imc, are being abandoned instead of improved. this is especially sad because the IMC was started in order to facilitate constructive interaction. the IMC has set the standard for alternative internet journalism networking and the only reason to turn away from interactivity at this point is in order to rob the IMC of some of its nascent potential. solutions to problems caused by so-called flame wars are abundant without abandoning the inspiring and legitimate demand for free, open, and constructive dialogue. internationally, IMC's could easily feature more and more useful, free, and constructive boards and forums that are interactive and journalistic. the abandonment of "latest comments" pages is a step away from interactivity, a step in the wrong direction.

anticrisis

lynx

latest comments

This site is wasting away.
Do you people even care?
Is this some indulgent hobby shop or are you being assaulted by external
problems beyond your ability to deal with.? I thought you folk had swapped servers. WHAT THE HELL is
going on? Is lynx 13 the only one who cares?
Why doesn't IMC SF have these problems, is it because they care enough
to be actual activists? Some effective decisions need to be made regarding this news wire beyond occasional editing. This blows chunks.

How DO you people get dressed in the morning?

LA-IMC is not like SF-IMC. SF-IMC has nessie who has nothing better to do than to control the comments board. This place experiences problems like any site, but they are unable to keep up with them. Why?

Simple answer: They don't have the bodies. That's right. The answer was to be found on their inter-office memos that used to be on the net should you have cared to look. In a city and surrounding area of 10-15 million people, there is only a handfew who even cares if this place exist, and of those that do care, they don't have the time to monitor it 24/7/365. In fact, they are constantly having to trade out with each other because of conflicts that arise. It was also noted that turnover at IMC's everywhere are a real problem. And why not. It gets frustrating in any movement to put out all this effort and yet as 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, 50 years pass, the movement is no closer to accomplishing anything that when they first started. Which is what we've been pointing out all along, you're a bunch of losers going nowhere.

Now, quit bitching and entertain us while the lights are still working.

LA IMC is run by Manny, Moe, and Jack of the socialist Pep Boys Collective. They don't have enough people amongst them to keep this place up, let alone respond to your chronic whining. Had you have read the inter-office memos, you too would know everything about these loons, just the same as we paid shills.

Now shut your pie holes and make with the comedy.

wow
inbred infighting
wow!

okay, you paid shills (and moles), why don't YOU post these memos so we can follow along?

About 5 months ago, I visited this site every day just to get a good laugh, but now I see that the same morons are still here promoting their useless bullshit to what they think is the rest of the world. Please move out of your parents basement sometime soon! You aren't fooling anyone-- everyone knows how dumb you all really are--- and you know who you are (sheepdog, KPC) to name a few. Nobody cares what you have to say so who is it that you think you are influencing???? Bush Admirer, why do you waste your time aguing with these fools? You should be promoting the Bush campaign!!! Please take my advice and block this website from your browser so it can't contaminate anyone else who uses your computer. This site is so full of bullshit and half truths that it makes me sick that anyone could take any of it seriously!! Try to check out the Fox Report every night and you will hear it fair and balanced, the way it should be heard!

>okay, you paid shills (and moles), why don't YOU post these memos so we can follow along?

Uh, after we outed dingo, they made it go away. Go back to nursing your beer.

Damn, you people are asleep at the wheel.

"Shut your pieholes and make with the comedy"

Comedy? This is no time for bourgeois comedy, comrade. Don't you know that the Revolution is about to begin any time now?

We can have plenty of comedy after we've screwed the workers.

Where to get tickets?

www.ebay.com

Gametime: Three days before the sun super-novas.
Get your tickets now!

"why don't YOU post these memos so we can follow along?"

Why should we do that? We're not here to help you.

"Uh, after we outed dingo, they made it go away."

That may be true, but not before we cached every one of them on our hard drives. We've got the skinny on all you IMC dweebs.

"Don't you know that the Revolution is about to begin any time now?"

Yep. Been goin' on since the 1960's. Forty-some-odd years in the making. Personally, I can't wait for the laws to be abolished so's I can break out the shotgun and chase some anarchists around.

"Gametime: Three days before the sun super-novas."

So saith the Hale Bopp Comet. Ti and Do are waiting for us brother! Lucy in the Sky, with Diamonds...

...was late with this month's check.

It'll be great when the anarchists take over; then they can pay for bandwidth with goats.

"We've got the skinny on all you IMC dweebs."

I believe you. I also believe in God, Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy.

"archived on hard drive"

Well, if you don't believe me, you can always go to Google and do a search for yourself:

http://www.google.com/search?q=imc-la-web+archives&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&filter=0

Not Found
The requested URL /pipermail/imc-la-web/2002-March/thread.html was not found on this server

http://www.google.com/search?q=imc-la-web+archives&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&filter=0

and don't forget to click on "cached" at the bottom of each link. Works really well. You can see cool stuff like:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

imc-la-web] Chomsky Article Needs Some Reporting
anna kunkin imc-la-web@regenerationtv.com
Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:09:58 -0700 (PDT)

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Sounds great.
Anna

-------Original Message-------
From: b mauldin <mauldin_b@hotmail.com>
Sent: 04/11/03 09:13 AM
To: imc-la-web@regenerationtv.com
Subject: Re: Re: [imc-la-web] Chomsky Article Needs Some Reporting

>
> Anna, if you have a recording of the speech, I'll be happy to get it into
MP3 format and upload it onto the IMC page. And of course to play it on
Radio IMC-LA. I'm about 85% sure I'll be at the meeting tomorrow, in
which
case I can 1) talk about Radio IMC-LA for new people, and 2) get the disc
from you. Sound good?

--Bronwyn



----Original Message Follows----
From: mischa <x_mischa_x@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: imc-la-web@regenerationtv.com
To: imc-la-web@regenerationtv.com
Subject: Re: Re: [imc-la-web] Chomsky Article Needs Some Reporting
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 08:10:40 -0700 (PDT)

Oh, and Anna - I'd love a copy of the recording if possible. :)

really finally crashing,
.m.


--- anna kunkin wrote:
> Sorry all,
> I've been trying to write the event up all week....but have been
> slammed by
> my work schedule.
> I do have a recorded disk of the speech if anyone is interested. It
> can be
> uploaded in it's entirety....but I don't know how. Is special
> software
> needed? I can bring a disk to the meeting tomorrow.
> I'm interested in the question of the organizing of the event; i.e:
> overselling the event and then selling tickets to people standing in
> line,
> leaving leaving hundreds, including paid people outside. Really bad!
> Pissed
> a lot of people off. Also, Noam got cut off after 40 minutes. Why did
> they
> have the event in a venue too small to hold the anticipated crowd?
> Why did
> they schedule Noam before another scheduled event without leaving him
>
> enough time? Why didn't they anticipate the fact that Noam Chomsky
> coming
> to L.A. for the first time in years would be like a Stone's concert?
> On another note, I'm waiting to hear if anyone is available to talk
> to
> volunteers at the orientation in the morning.
>
>
>
> At 09:01 AM 4/11/03 -0700, you wrote:
> >Meleiza,
> >
> >I spoke to Brian at pacifica archives = only has tapes and cds - no
> >transcrips.
> >
> >go off notes
> >
> >newswire post location is excellant
> >
> >yes, we can edit
> >
> >my guess is they search latest comments to gang up and are working
> in concert
> >
> >WebODissent
> >Gianni says he has got someone but would like to talk to anyone
> interested
> >- 310-589-3876
> >
> >thanks for all your work,
> >jim
> >
> >-------Original Message-------
> >From: mischa
> >Sent: 04/11/03 04:20 AM
> >To: imc-la-web@regenerationtv.com
> >Subject: Re: [imc-la-web] Chomsky Article Needs Some Reporting
> >
> > >
> > > Been workin on one - i need to get some quotes so i'm waiting on
> >Pacifica. Unless someone happens to have a transcript...?
> Otherwise,
> >if I don't get a transcript by tomorrow I'll do it off of notes.
> >
> >I really liked his mention of "the freedoms we have are a legacy" -
> >there's a good positive message there for the movement and that's
> kinda
> >what I want to theme it around. and with his other stuff, i can make
> it
> >about legacies - of militarism, and then of peace. sound ok?
> >
> >Still don't have access to edit center column so i can post it on
> the
> >newswire either in the afternoon or late evening, and if needed you
> >guys can then edit it however you want before putting it on there.
> :)
> >
> >BTW, is there a way to edit articles once they've been published?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Meleiza
> >
> >(P.S. oh yay, the trolls showed up on one of my posts today. Given
> the
> >timeframe in which their comments all showed up, does one kinda get
> the
> >impression that they're working together? especially cause the
> >article's been bumped off the front-page newswire for a few hours
> now.
> >or is it just that kind of roach scavenger mentality that brings
> them
> >together? just a tired thought since i've been up all night lol)
> >
> >
> >--- "builder123@mindspring.com" wrote:
> > > to all,
> > >
> > > Chomsky center column article is up, but boy O boy it could use a
> > > text link specific to the event.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > > _______________________________________________
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Yep, we got the skinny alright. We got the skinny on all you lil anarchist punks.

"We got the skinny on all you lil anarchist punks."

I believe you. I also believe in God, the Easter bunny, and Iraqi WMD's. I'm a conservative.

You have every reason too believe us. You of couse should believe us, after the tragic fate of that pitiable moron, Diogenes.

"tragic fate"

Yeah, right. You could fertilize the entire state of Texas with THAT one. You don't scare anybody. Moron.

Hmm. Methinks Warren would disagree.

Warren is alive and well. You, on the other hand, are alive and mentally unstable.

Not really.

If we has a shill, he deserved it.

If he actually believed the tripe he posted, he deserved it.

Still, it's kinda quiet without him around. There's nobody here to fill the Pompous Stuffed Shirt role. Parmenides tries, but doesn't grace us mere mortals with his presence often enough.

KPC and Sheepdog are too obscene. Systemfailure is too reality-challenged. Meyer is too weird.

Won't somebody get all high and mighty and talk down to us like Dio did?

Alas, poor Dio. I knew him well, Horatio...

"Systemfailure is too reality-challenged."

That's rich, coming from someone who believes in the fairy tale that is God. Moron.

What fairy tales do you believe in, Scottie?

Anarchy?

Liberalism?

Anyone but Bush getting elected next year?

Now who's reality challenged?

"If you don't believe in anything, you'll fall for everything."

Yeah that's rich. He may be alive, but he's never been well. And when the going got tough, the tough pussed out. What happened Warren? Cat get your tongue?

...when you post personal information on the web.

On second thought, I actually believe that there are WMD's in Iraq, so what do I know? Not a whole hell of a lot!

LALALALALALALALALALALALALA

No, there isn't.

They're all under the Bekaa Valley.

and if you believe that, I've got some swampland here in Gladstone for sale...

Do you enjoy having conversations with yourself?

I sure do! Thanks for asking.

No I don't. Yes I do. No I don't....

If we're gonna crash this dump, we need to soak up more bandwidth.

Post pictures, wav files, anything to get the bitrate bogged down.

We can do it!

When you libbies/annies don't have anything to add to the discussion, you can always resort to childish behaviour!

great job. funny name, zero content. thank you.
really!

I REALLY am a dumbass, as my posts here demonstrate.

That's the longest time in imc history it's taken for a thread to get disgusting!

Somebody save the backup CD!

you are a glittering example.
I am serious.

I try.

Lord KNOWS I try.

It's not like I post under the name "the puss filled kitten anus making words".

But we have lots of time.
So can you dance?

And I don't drink.

How was I to know?

But no cigar. And no intern to use it on.

there shure are some obssessive compulsive people on here. I think you shold all go to the doctor and get on a prescripsion.

I think that you should bend over so that I can take you down the Hershey Highway.

I think that you should bend over so that I can take you down the Hershey Highway.

I think that you should bend over so that I can take you down the Hershey Highway.

do you have a particular doctor in mind?
Could use some for my 'cough'.

thats pretty sick dude/ you gots ome problems and issues man. why dont you go see the doctor or meybe a soshial worker. my mom says not to talk with sickos on the internet tho so i got to get off now.

Just post this doctor's name and your address.
really!

the yellow pges or sumpthin. you should look under bipoler disorers. i didnt no what hershey hiway was so i asked my mom an she said your a sick freak and i got to get off. thanks alot man.

there he goes. thanks alot.
you scared him off and I have to woof tricloretheline. Asshole.