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by apoc
Tuesday, Jul. 15, 2003 at 3:53 AM
conference news and info
If you've submitted a query or proposal before, please resubmit with our new forms and site for the conference. YOU CAN... ... Register to attend the APOC conference ... Submit a workshop proposal for the APOC conference ... Request rides or offer rides to the conference NOW ONLINE @ http://www.illegalvoices.org WHAT: An organizers' conference of people in various communities of color who are sympathetic to the Anarchist movement. WHEN: October 3-5, 2003 [please note change from previously announced August date!] WHERE: Wayne State University, Detroit, Michigan, USA WHY: to lay the foundations for an anti-authoritarian, grassroots movement of peoples of color that will organize in their communities against racism and repression. WHO: This conference is for community activists, oppressed and Indigenous peoples, Anarchists and anti-authoritarians of color. THIS IS A PEOPLE OF COLOR-ONLY EVENT. Local organizing committees are coming together to organize caravans from regions. Check the website for further information. Please forward widely!
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by lynx-13
Tuesday, Jul. 15, 2003 at 12:37 PM
thanks very much for posting this info. i've been waiting for news about this. --------------------------------------------------------------------- anticrisis
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by Bush Admirer
Tuesday, Jul. 15, 2003 at 3:04 PM
Yea, I've been waiting for this too.
I'm rounding up a number of my Republican friends and think I can get 30 or 40 attendees.
We have definite ideas on what this group should do and where they should go. The first thing we intend to challenge is the 'people of color only' stipulation. That's racist and we Repubs are anti-racist.
We'll try to have the majority vote when the group is ready to make decisions. Hopefully we can take this over and neutralize it.
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by Ignatius
Tuesday, Jul. 15, 2003 at 7:09 PM
Jesus Christ, what would be the reaction of you lefty a holes if ANYONE tried to have a White People only gathering, of ANY description. You clowns really slay me.
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by Rational Normal Person.
Tuesday, Jul. 15, 2003 at 7:16 PM
Hey isn't pink a color? http://www.illegalvoices.org/basics/about.html ""WHO: This conference is for community activists, oppressed and Indigenous peoples, Anarchists and anti-authoritarians of color. THIS IS A PEOPLE OF COLOR ONLY EVENT, sponsored by the Students Movement for Justice at Wayne State U., the Black Autonomy Network of Community Organizers-S.W. Michigan chapter, and our friends in the Anarchist movement."" http://www.illegalvoices.org/basics/faq.html ""WHY ARE WHITE PEOPLE NOT ALLOWED TO ATTEND THE APOC CONFERNCE? This is our conference, and just like women, gays or other autonomous groups, we decide whether or how to allow others outside our tendency to participate. We believe it is important to hold on our autonomy, as we discuss among ourselves those issue which most effect us. For years, we have been generally excluded from Anarchist movements and programs. However, we realize that there are whites in the Anarchist and progressive scene who are sympathetic to our cause But, we feel that we have the absolute right to meet an plan an agenda of our own choosing around our own interests, especially how we deal with racism, poverty, racial profiling, police brutality, mass imprisonment of youth of color, and other issues which most effect our community. Historically, there have always been ethnic Anarchist tendencies in the United States, whether Jewish, German, Italian, Russian, Polish, or others in the 3rd world. It should be no surprise that Africans in America, Xicanoa, Boriquen (Puerto Ricans), and others would try to build their own tendency. White people, even fellow radicals, have yet to deal with their own racism, within progressive political circles. We do not expect that they can contribute anything at this time to our program. We do ask for the material aid, mutual political support, solidarity, and deep and honest understanding while we hold this conference and try to create our movement.""
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by Rational Normal Person
Tuesday, Jul. 15, 2003 at 7:23 PM
Specifically... ""This is our conference, and just like women, gays or other autonomous groups, we decide whether or how to allow others outside our tendency to participate.""
In other words "no whites allowed in here"
Isn't that a bit racist???? Well don't be surprised when someone refuses to let a "Person of color" attend any event in the future. You can yell all you want but the reply will be... "This is our conference...etc"
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by anti-nut
Wednesday, Jul. 16, 2003 at 7:32 AM
"Jesus Christ, what would be the reaction of you lefty a holes..."
In addition to Jesus, what other fairy tales do you believe in? Santa Clause? The Easter bunny? The Tooth Fairy? You're nuttier than a truckload of peanut brittle!!!!
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by lynx-13
Wednesday, Jul. 16, 2003 at 10:17 AM
" The Myth of Reverse Racism" by Tim Wise " So, what's the solution? Within the rubric of the values and focus of their projects, publishers, editors, and conference organizers must meet representative participation goals no matter how they feel about what the new folks are saying. And to make these acts of political integrity fiscally wise, funders, readers, conference-goers, and everyone who relates to projects, institutions, and campaigns of the left must welcome sexual and racial balance and must vote for it with feet, funds, and support." - - Michael Albert see also: Welsing's definition of racism related KPFK issues --------------------------------------------------------------------- anticrisis
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by lynx-13
Wednesday, Jul. 16, 2003 at 1:31 PM
Lorenzo's blog another related comment from kpfklisteners.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- anticrisis
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by lynx-13
Thursday, Jul. 17, 2003 at 11:11 AM
anarchist people of color kpfklisteners.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- anticrisis
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by lynx-13
Saturday, Jul. 19, 2003 at 9:14 AM
check out the amazing movement that is growing in DETROIT!! --------------------------------------------------------------------- anticrisis
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by lynx-13
Saturday, Jul. 19, 2003 at 12:53 PM
photos from Detroit --------------------------------------------------------------------- anticrisis
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by lynx-13
Friday, Jul. 25, 2003 at 3:15 PM
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by lynx-13
Sunday, Jul. 27, 2003 at 3:59 PM
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PEOPLE OF COLOR IN SOLIDARITY!! " millions of Bolivians marched to Cochabamba, held a general strike, and stopped all transportation. At the gathering, the protesters issued the Cochabamba Declaration, calling for the protection of universal water rights." Blacks oppose water privatization, from Detroit to South Africa Vandana Shiva on WATER WARS busting the global water cartel anarchist people of color lynx latest comments -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- anticrisis
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by KOBE SBM
Wednesday, Jul. 30, 2003 at 5:16 PM
Okay, Im half black, and half Puerto Rican (Caucasian descent). That makes me a "person of color". First, I think that ALL anarchists are stupid motherfuckers trying to being a nightmare to life which can NEVER be. Anarchists are the enemy of any nation. Their goal is to eliminate government. Now you fucking idiots come along, and add racism to the mix? FUCK YOU.
"People of color". Who the fuck are you fooling? How DARE you base something on race. Hell, I know many whites who are at least 3 shades darker than me right now from suntans. What about the albino black woman? Does she get to attend your shindig???? You are the worst type of morons. RACIST morons.
I hope the cops raid your shitty little gathering, spray all of you with pepper spray, beat you with clubs, kill a few of you, and jail the rest. FUCK YOU!!!!!!!
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by lynx-13
Wednesday, Aug. 06, 2003 at 12:43 PM
disregarding the disgusting trivia of the above post, i have heard some serious criticisms of this conference from serious activists of color. some say they don't think it is a good idea to organize specifically as people of color. i don't understand that perspective but would like to hear from activists of color who are interested in discussing this rationally.... anybody out there? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- update: i found this update at the infoshop website. i've been annoyed and turned off by infoshop ever since they parroted the OC WEEKLY line on Long Beach Mayday 2001, but many good people post there so it's still worth a peak now and then. the anarchist people of color conference website has posted an APOC Network proposal. i don't understand point #2 from the points of unity but the general idea (a national network of anarchist people of color) is a very valuable one in my opinion. see also the more general anarchist people of color website. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- anticrisis lynx latest comments
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by The Logic of Aldo
Wednesday, Aug. 06, 2003 at 2:45 PM
1-800-REALITY
Yeah, Josef's got it right on. I wonder how long an anarchist society would last; 12 hours tops?
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by lynx-13
Wednesday, Aug. 06, 2003 at 8:51 PM
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by Rational Normal Person.
Wednesday, Aug. 06, 2003 at 9:00 PM
Can you get me into the Anarchist People of Color Conference in October??????
That is the point... This thread is not anti-anarchist, it is anti-racial discrimination.
On a lighter note... The food on offer looks really interesting!!!!
Pity I can't be allowed to go and fucking taste it because I am not colored enough though!
That is the issue! not anarchism.
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by The Logic of Aldo
Thursday, Aug. 07, 2003 at 10:43 AM
1-800-REALITY
I wonder how long I could survive outside of my gated community? 1 hour tops?
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by where's dingo?
Thursday, Aug. 07, 2003 at 10:45 AM
whersdingo@tuckedtailandrun.net
Where's dingo?
wheresdingo.com
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by Diogenes
Thursday, Aug. 07, 2003 at 11:18 AM
Right here, idiot.
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by Dingo Fires Back
Thursday, Aug. 07, 2003 at 11:27 AM
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Recently Diogenes, having been duped into thinking his friends at the LA IMC collective actually cared about him, discovered that he had been outted by them to the government agents, in order to keep their own asses out of dutch. In the wake of all the turmoil and strife, Diogenes launches an all out counter offensive.
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by Dingo Fires Back
Thursday, Aug. 07, 2003 at 11:30 AM
Of course, I think that the sky is red, so what do I know? Not a whole hell of a lot!
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by oh really!
Thursday, Aug. 07, 2003 at 11:37 AM
"Not a whole hell of a lot!"
How are things on River Road?
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by good one
Thursday, Aug. 07, 2003 at 11:37 AM
Good one Warren.
Don't make me post your bank statements.
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 3:22 AM
"Don't make me post your bank statements."
You WON'T post my bank statements due to the fact that you don't have access to them. You don't even have a clue as to who I am. Idiot.
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 4:08 AM
You said it, moron. I'm STILL waiting for you to post my bank statements.
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 4:15 AM
You said it, moron. I'm STILL waiting for you to post my bank statements. You're nothing but a blowhard.
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by right
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 4:21 AM
Right. BTW where's Diogenes?
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by I'm a pickin' and he's a grinin'
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 4:38 AM
Where oh where are you tonight? Why did you leave me here all alone? I searched the web over and I thought I found Dingo. They got his info and PLLLLOOOOOPP, He was gone.
HEE HEE HEE HAW HAW!
What a great show Hee-Haw was! Wonder what ever happened to it? (sarcasm)
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 4:44 AM
I'm right here, waiting for you to PROVE that you know who I am.
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by Toot Toot
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 4:45 AM
Don't mess with my Dingo, Don't mess with my Dingo, If you mess with my Dingo, Imma break yo face.
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 4:49 AM
Thanks for proving that you're nothing more than a blowhard.
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by 50 cent
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 4:59 AM
"In Da Club"
[Dingo] Go, go, go, go Go, go, go Dingo It's your birthday We gon' party like it's yo birthday We gon' sip Bacardi like it's your birthday And you know we don't give a fuck It's not your birthday!
[Chorus (2x)] You can find me in the club, bottle full of bub Look mami I got the X if you into taking drugs I'm into having sex, I ain't into making love So come give me a hug if you into getting rubbed
[Verse] When I pull out up front, you see the Benz on dubs When I roll 20 deep, it's 20 knives in the club Niggas heard I fuck with Dingo, now they wanna show me love When you sell like SBM, and the hoes they wanna fuck But homie ain't nothing change hold down, Dingo’s up I see Xzibit in the Cutt that nigga roll that weed up If you watch how I move you'll mistake me for a playa or pimp Been hit wit a few shells but I dont walk wit a limp In the hood then the ladies saying "Nigga you hot" They like me, I want them to love me like they love 'Pac But holla on IMC the niggas'll tell ya im loco And the plan is to put the chat game in a choke hold I'm feelin' focused man, my money on my mind I got a mill out the deal and I'm still on the grind Now Faker Kobe said he’s feeling my style, he’s feeling my flow His girlfriend wanna get bi and they ready to go
[Chorus (2x)]
[Bridge] My flow, my show brought me the doe That bought me all my fancy things My crib, my cars, my pools, my jewels Look Dingo i done came up and i ain't change.
[Verse] And you should love it, way more then you hate it Dingo you mad? I thought that you'd be happy I made you I'm that cat by the bar toasting to the good life You that faggot ass Dingo trying to pull me back right? When my junk get to pumpin in the club it's on I wink my eye at ya bitch, if she smiles she gone If the roof on fire, let the motherfucker burn If you talking bout Dingo homie, I ain't concerned I'm a tell you what Banks told me cause go 'head switch the style up If the Impers hate then let 'em hate Watch the money pile up Or we go upside there head wit a bottle of bub You know where Dingo fucking be
[Chorus (2x)]
[Talking] [Laughing] Don't try to act like you ain't know where Dingo been either nigga I be in the club all the time nigga, so go ahead and pop off nigga G-Unit
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 5:02 AM
Again, thanks for proving that you're nothing more than a blowhard.
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by ?
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 5:05 AM
Where's Dingo?
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 5:07 AM
I'm right here, you idiot. Where's that bank statement you promised me? Keep blowing that hot air!
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by dolt
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 5:10 AM
I wanna talk to Warren. Wanna make him a deal.
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 5:13 AM
Oh really? I thought that you wanted to talk to ME. Your handle suits you, as you ARE a dolt.
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by dolt
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 5:16 AM
What you want to talk about? You want me to sign you up with some bukkake/scat mail lists?
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 5:18 AM
You WOULD know those mailing lists, you reprobate. I'm STILL waiting for you to prove that you know who I am.
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by we know everything
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 5:20 AM
you don't think we government agents know who you are? Naive.
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 5:24 AM
Who am I? Feel free to PROVE that you know my identity.
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by certainly
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 5:27 AM
Your name is Bob. I always liked that name Bob. It's a palindrome. You know what a palindrome is, don't you? A word that can be spelled the same way backwards and forwards. Like race-car. That's a PALINdrome too. I love PALINdromes. They're so much fun to play with.
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 5:33 AM
Again, thanks for proving that you're nothing more than a blowhard.
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by Robert
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 5:35 AM
BTW, where's Dingo?
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 5:36 AM
I'm right here making you look like a fool. Where's that bank statement?
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by Dick
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 5:38 AM
You want me to post your personal info on the internet? Some sick, twisted wacko might get his grubby little hands on it and use it for evil.
Not like me.
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 5:42 AM
You WON'T post my personal info because you don't HAVE it.
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by Ted
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 5:48 AM
Yes I do have it too.
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 5:50 AM
If you did in fact have my personal info, you would post it. You haven't a clue as to who I am.
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by Frank
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 5:52 AM
What fun is there in that? I'd prefer to keep your info safe and sound. Wouldn't want it to fall into the wrong hands.
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 5:54 AM
It won't fall into the wrong hands because you simply don't have ANY of my personal info. You have tarnished the reputation of KOBE.
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by Stan
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 5:57 AM
Kobe's are half-wits. They don't have Dingo's info, Stevie-dee. We do.
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 5:59 AM
I'm not Stephen. I'm Dingo, you know, the guy whom you know absolutely NOTHING about.
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by Lee
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:01 AM
Prove it Stevie-dee. Prove that you're Dingo. Go ahead tough guy. Prove it. Post your info.
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:03 AM
The burden of proof is on YOU. It is YOU who must PROVE that you know ANY of my personal info. You won't post it, because you haven't a clue as to who or where I am.
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by Ralph
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:05 AM
When I get back I wanna see solid proof that you're Dingo. You better have posted your own info or else.
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:07 AM
In other words, you don't have it. You don't scare anyone. Take your childish head games elsewhere.
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by generic name
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:18 AM
Where's Dingo?
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:20 AM
I'm right here, you dim wit.
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by prove it
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:21 AM
no proof you're him.
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:23 AM
What's this "deal" that you wish to make with me?
I don't want to talk to you. by dolt • Thursday August 07, 2003 08:10 AM
I wanna talk to Warren. Wanna make him a deal.
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by Diogenes (the real one)
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:24 AM
I'm Diogenes. He's just a reprobate.
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by Monty Hall
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:27 AM
Let's make a Deal...
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:28 AM
I'm so glad that I was able to teach you a new word. You even used it in a sentence!
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:29 AM
The only thing that I will tell you is that I live in Oregon.
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by pay attention
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:30 AM
How old are you Dingo?
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:31 AM
Nice try. Just admit that you know NOTHING about me.
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by 49
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:32 AM
Tilt.
Play again?
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:35 AM
Lucky guess. Feel free to describe the deal that you wish to make with me.
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by insert coin
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:37 AM
What is your political party preference Dingo?
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by MENSA
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:39 AM
49 is your IQ.
Tilt.
Play again?
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:39 AM
If you had more than one brain cell left, you would already know that I am a Libertarian.
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by ?
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:40 AM
Now tell us why you are a Libertarian.
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:41 AM
"no Dingo. that was not your age."
No shit, Sherlock. Do you actually think that I would tell you my REAL age? Did you hurt your head when you fell off of that turnip truck yesterday? Idiot.
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:42 AM
"Now tell us why you are a Libertarian."
Tell me about this deal that you wish to make and then I'll tell you why I am a Libertarian.
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by insert coin
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:44 AM
Tilt.
Play Again?
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:46 AM
I just love fucking with your head. You have NONE of my personal info and you have NO deal that you wish to discuss with me.
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by W.O.P.R.
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:48 AM
You are a hard man to reach Professor. Could not find you in Seattle and no terminal is in operation at your classified address.
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by Joshua
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:51 AM
How about a good game of Chess?
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:51 AM
Maybe I'm just more skilled at IT than you? Yeah, that's probably it. You don't seem too bright. You should also take a few psychology courses.
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by Professor Faulcon
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:54 AM
and I'm here pulling your strings.
Welcome to Psychology 101. Put away your books. Time for a pop quiz.
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:57 AM
The strings that you're pulling aren't attached to me. Sorry, but my knowledge of psychology is well past the 100 level. Next?
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by yeah it's me again
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:59 AM
What's with the fake Diogenes/psyco stalker dual monologue? Talk about tower of babble BS. Not convincing. Someone needs meds very badly.
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by ?
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 6:59 AM
Why have you been so quiet the past two weeks Dingo?
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 7:01 AM
I don't know. Why don't you tell me? Am I not allowed to take a vacation once in a while?
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by Citibank
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 7:04 AM
Had any unusual charges to your credit cards this month?
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 7:11 AM
No. Feel free to let me know what this "deal" is that you wish to make with me.
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by Yawn
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 7:17 AM
I'm bored now little one. Going outside to get some fresh air. It's suddenly gotten stuffy in here.
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by Diogenes
Friday, Aug. 08, 2003 at 7:39 AM
You need a lot more than fresh air. You need a Prozac the size of a basketball.
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by lynx-13
Friday, Aug. 15, 2003 at 2:20 PM
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