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Enough Rope

by mymicz Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 1:31 PM

How much more leeway regarding international law does Bush really have?

Since this war began, the only thought I have had is how far will Bush really go? He has already gone so far as to kill upwards of 500 civilians, bomb grain silos, water treatment plants, news stations. The question is, this all being in direct violation of international law, is whether or not someone has started making the case and presenting it.
So how much is enough rope? We have given this administration a line far enough to commit some of the gravest infractions. Now it's time for us to watch them hang themselves. In a way, for a peace activist, this couldn't have been a better situation. It's time to reteach our youth the history of Nuremberg, and the grand accomplishment of an international criminal court. While U.S. soldiers are out of state, they are more than vulnerable to the laws of this court.
But it's really not the soldiers we want. They are really just taking orders, with their batallions so fragmented and kept out of touch with reality that they probably don't know the grave error they are commiting. So now, we wait, for Bush to leave the country. Once he does, we have to have him arrested under international law, and try him for putting the world and our boys at risk. The clear conflicts of interest-demonstrated by Pearl's resignation a few days ago, are like honey to a bear.
Do you think that Bush's case will hold up in front of a jury of internationals? Highly unlikely. And what's more, once this case is brought, in it's entirety, to the American people, Bush will lose. And so will the religious right.
My one experience this weekend with the radical left has left me a bit purtubed though. I cannot condone the idea of another Russia here on our soil under the guise of socialism. I believe in Capitalism, but with social healthcare and restraints on Corporate greed and power. Those restraints have to be enforced under the death penalty for those who rob upwards of let's say 3 million and revise that later for liberals. Life in prison is an option, especially for corporations that support the Prison Industrial Complex.
Still, I didn't enjoy being harrangued by Marxists this weekend, as if I'm not intelligent enough to have actually read Marx and be insulted by Jingoistic words like burgious(I can't spell it O.k. but it don't mean I'm stupid). We need a new leadership, or none at all (for you anarchists!!). Peace and Freedom sounds like a great idea.
Above all, we need to stop segregating ourselves on the basis of race or class, and finally galvanize the movement to hang Bush on the rope we gave him (metaphorically speaking that is).
We are rich, poor, colored, white, sick, healthy, healthworkers, mothers, we are everyone. This is an Important time to try to find a way for us to come together behind something other than tired old Marx. Ideas can be borrowed from this arena of course, for some were indeed beautiful, but religion has to play a part, at least in the sense of spirituality, and Capitalism must play it's part too, it can be very profitable(as in the case of employee owned Whole Foods and the companies that sell to them) to be on the side that is for the people. People want money, and a nice life, we need to show that those things are not mutually exclusive from a passionate and activist lifestyle. In fact, those who make money help drive the movement when they agree with us.
I honor the Dems for coming out in force at the rallies, and the commies too. But we must be able to find middle ground in order to build a base from which to launch a political attack. We certainly have enough rope.
The question is, how do we hire a hangman we can trust? Discuss........

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