imc indymedia

Los Angeles Indymedia : Activist News

white themeblack themered themetheme help
About Us Contact Us Calendar Publish RSS
Features
latest news
best of news
syndication
commentary


KILLRADIO

VozMob

ABCF LA

A-Infos Radio

Indymedia On Air

Dope-X-Resistance-LA List

LAAMN List




IMC Network:

Original Cities

www.indymedia.org africa: ambazonia canarias estrecho / madiaq kenya nigeria south africa canada: hamilton london, ontario maritimes montreal ontario ottawa quebec thunder bay vancouver victoria windsor winnipeg east asia: burma jakarta japan korea manila qc europe: abruzzo alacant andorra antwerpen armenia athens austria barcelona belarus belgium belgrade bristol brussels bulgaria calabria croatia cyprus emilia-romagna estrecho / madiaq euskal herria galiza germany grenoble hungary ireland istanbul italy la plana liege liguria lille linksunten lombardia london madrid malta marseille nantes napoli netherlands nice northern england norway oost-vlaanderen paris/Île-de-france patras piemonte poland portugal roma romania russia saint-petersburg scotland sverige switzerland thessaloniki torun toscana toulouse ukraine united kingdom valencia latin america: argentina bolivia chiapas chile chile sur cmi brasil colombia ecuador mexico peru puerto rico qollasuyu rosario santiago tijuana uruguay valparaiso venezuela venezuela oceania: adelaide aotearoa brisbane burma darwin jakarta manila melbourne perth qc sydney south asia: india mumbai united states: arizona arkansas asheville atlanta austin baltimore big muddy binghamton boston buffalo charlottesville chicago cleveland colorado columbus dc hawaii houston hudson mohawk kansas city la madison maine miami michigan milwaukee minneapolis/st. paul new hampshire new jersey new mexico new orleans north carolina north texas nyc oklahoma philadelphia pittsburgh portland richmond rochester rogue valley saint louis san diego san francisco san francisco bay area santa barbara santa cruz, ca sarasota seattle tampa bay tennessee urbana-champaign vermont western mass worcester west asia: armenia beirut israel palestine process: fbi/legal updates mailing lists process & imc docs tech volunteer projects: print radio satellite tv video regions: oceania united states topics: biotech

Surviving Cities

www.indymedia.org africa: canada: quebec east asia: japan europe: athens barcelona belgium bristol brussels cyprus germany grenoble ireland istanbul lille linksunten nantes netherlands norway portugal united kingdom latin america: argentina cmi brasil rosario oceania: aotearoa united states: austin big muddy binghamton boston chicago columbus la michigan nyc portland rochester saint louis san diego san francisco bay area santa cruz, ca tennessee urbana-champaign worcester west asia: palestine process: fbi/legal updates process & imc docs projects: radio satellite tv
printable version - js reader version - view hidden posts - tags and related articles

Enough Rope

by mymicz Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 1:31 PM

How much more leeway regarding international law does Bush really have?

Since this war began, the only thought I have had is how far will Bush really go? He has already gone so far as to kill upwards of 500 civilians, bomb grain silos, water treatment plants, news stations. The question is, this all being in direct violation of international law, is whether or not someone has started making the case and presenting it.

So how much is enough rope? We have given this administration a line far enough to commit some of the gravest infractions. Now it's time for us to watch them hang themselves. In a way, for a peace activist, this couldn't have been a better situation. It's time to reteach our youth the history of Nuremberg, and the grand accomplishment of an international criminal court. While U.S. soldiers are out of state, they are more than vulnerable to the laws of this court.

But it's really not the soldiers we want. They are really just taking orders, with their batallions so fragmented and kept out of touch with reality that they probably don't know the grave error they are commiting. So now, we wait, for Bush to leave the country. Once he does, we have to have him arrested under international law, and try him for putting the world and our boys at risk. The clear conflicts of interest-demonstrated by Pearl's resignation a few days ago, are like honey to a bear.

Do you think that Bush's case will hold up in front of a jury of internationals? Highly unlikely. And what's more, once this case is brought, in it's entirety, to the American people, Bush will lose. And so will the religious right.

My one experience this weekend with the radical left has left me a bit purtubed though. I cannot condone the idea of another Russia here on our soil under the guise of socialism. I believe in Capitalism, but with social healthcare and restraints on Corporate greed and power. Those restraints have to be enforced under the death penalty for those who rob upwards of let's say 3 million and revise that later for liberals. Life in prison is an option, especially for corporations that support the Prison Industrial Complex.

Still, I didn't enjoy being harrangued by Marxists this weekend, as if I'm not intelligent enough to have actually read Marx and be insulted by Jingoistic words like burgious(I can't spell it O.k. but it don't mean I'm stupid). We need a new leadership, or none at all (for you anarchists!!). Peace and Freedom sounds like a great idea.

Above all, we need to stop segregating ourselves on the basis of race or class, and finally galvanize the movement to hang Bush on the rope we gave him (metaphorically speaking that is).

We are rich, poor, colored, white, sick, healthy, healthworkers, mothers, we are everyone. This is an Important time to try to find a way for us to come together behind something other than tired old Marx. Ideas can be borrowed from this arena of course, for some were indeed beautiful, but religion has to play a part, at least in the sense of spirituality, and Capitalism must play it's part too, it can be very profitable(as in the case of employee owned Whole Foods and the companies that sell to them) to be on the side that is for the people. People want money, and a nice life, we need to show that those things are not mutually exclusive from a passionate and activist lifestyle. In fact, those who make money help drive the movement when they agree with us.

I honor the Dems for coming out in force at the rallies, and the commies too. But we must be able to find middle ground in order to build a base from which to launch a political attack. We certainly have enough rope.

The question is, how do we hire a hangman we can trust? Discuss........



Report this post as:

LATEST COMMENTS ABOUT THIS ARTICLE
Listed below are the 10 latest comments of 14 posted about this article.
These comments are anonymously submitted by the website visitors.
TITLE AUTHOR DATE
WINNER! fresca Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 4:57 PM
fresca fresca Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 4:59 PM
fresca fresca Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 4:59 PM
Hey, Fresca: Bet Me Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 5:03 PM
What? fresca Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 5:06 PM
Peace activists David Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 5:12 PM
To David Concerned Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 5:16 PM
Concerened David Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 5:22 PM
Could you be any less insightful fresca Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 5:23 PM
fresca fresca Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 5:25 PM
That's it fresca Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 5:28 PM
fresca fresca Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 5:32 PM
OneEyedMan KPC Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 5:37 PM
OneEyedMan KPC Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 6:38 PM

Local News

Change Links 2018 July posted J09 1:27PM

More Pix: "Families Belong Together," Pasadena J02 12:16PM

"Families Belong Together" March, Pasadena J02 12:08PM

Short Report on the Families Belong Together Protest in Los Angeles J30 4:26PM

Summer 2018 National Immigrant Solidarity Network News Alert! J10 11:58PM

Watch the Debate: Excluded Candidates for Governor of California M30 10:20PM

Change Links June 2018 posted M28 12:41AM

The Montrose Peace Vigil at 12 Years M22 1:01PM

Unity Archive Project M21 2:42AM

Dianne Feinstein's Promotion of War, Secret Animal Abuse, Military Profiteering, Censorshi M17 3:22PM

CA Senate Bill 1303 would require an independent coroner rather than being part of police M10 2:08PM

Three years after OC snitch scandal, no charges filed against sheriffs deputies M10 1:57PM

California police agencies violate Brown Act (open meetings) M02 1:31PM

Insane Company Wants To Send Nuke Plant Waste To New Mexico A29 4:47PM

Change Links May 2018 A27 1:40AM

Worker-Owned Car Wash on Vermont Closed A26 10:37PM

GUIDE TO REBEL CITY LOS ANGELES AVAILABLE A12 5:39PM

lausd whistle blower A10 11:58PM

Website Upgrade A10 3:02AM

Help KCET and UCLA identify 60s-70s Chicano images A04 1:02PM

UCLA Luskin: Casting Youth Justice in a Different Light A02 11:58AM

Change Links April 2018 A01 11:27AM

Nuclear Shutdown News March 2018 M31 6:57PM

Join The Protest Rally in Glendale on April 10, 2018! M29 7:00PM

Spring 2018 National Immigrant Solidarity Network News Alert! M19 2:02PM

Anti-Eviction Mapping Project Shows Shocking Eviction Trends in L.A. M16 5:40PM

Steve Mnuchin video at UCLA released M15 12:34AM

Actress and Philanthropist Tanna Frederick Hosts Project Save Our Surf Beach Clean Ups M06 12:10PM

More Local News...

Other/Breaking News

Un monde de pauvreté J22 12:54AM

14 Disturbing Facts About Scott Gottlieb, Trump's FDA Head J20 10:47PM

Behind the scenes at fbi National Academy J20 2:47PM

Treasury Takes Aim at Shell Companies J20 11:18AM

Paraphysique de l'intelligence J20 9:08AM

Oklahoma GOP Senator Jim Inhofe's Bloody Record J20 4:01AM

Globalization: hope on the horizon despite Fake Liberals. J20 3:41AM

Sorry President Trump,Ted Cruz Texas Judicial System,is Worse Than Many Shithole Countries J19 4:49PM

The Shortwave Report 07/20/18 Listen Globally! J19 4:33PM

The System Question as a Survival Question J18 8:54PM

Nation's Largest Voting Machine Co., ESS, Admits Lying Re Having Installed Remote Control J18 11:55AM

Du pain et des jeux J18 9:53AM

Paraphysique de martyrologie J17 8:00AM

Children Incorporated Earns 4-Star Rating on Charity Navigator J16 11:24AM

Democratic Socialists of America J14 4:57PM

Leonard Peltier Non Violent Native American Political Prisoner since 1970's J14 4:18PM

Paraphysique miscellanées de l'aggiornamento J14 12:54AM

FBI Investigated LA County Sheriff Baca,Why Not Hank Skinner's Persecution? J13 3:52PM

Updated Partial List Of Famous Vegetarians, Vegans, & Fruitarians J13 2:59PM

The Shortwave Report 07136/18 Listen Globally! J12 4:36PM

Social Policy as Social Infrastructure J12 3:38AM

Vol I: 84 Varieties Of GOP Election Fraud J12 1:50AM

Texas Can Call it An Execution,But It is A State Sponsored Murder of Hank Skinner.. J11 6:48PM

June 2018 Honduras coup update J11 3:35PM

Maria Estrada doubles down on racist support J11 1:40PM

New York Women in Film & Television Announces 2018 NYWIFT Ha Phuong Scholarship Recipients J11 10:14AM

Trapps de la domination, trapps de l'aliénation J11 1:31AM

Please Work For The Defeat Of Brett Kavanaugh And Why J09 8:54PM

More Breaking News...
© 2000-2018 Los Angeles Independent Media Center. Unless otherwise stated by the author, all content is free for non-commercial reuse, reprint, and rebroadcast, on the net and elsewhere. Opinions are those of the contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Los Angeles Independent Media Center. Running sf-active v0.9.4 Disclaimer | Privacy