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an Anarchists perspective on the WTC/Pentagon terrorist atacks.

by anonymous Friday, Sep. 14, 2001 at 9:42 AM

Is this attack a terrible tragedy? Yes, of course. Has the US done terrible things to people all over the world? Yes, of course. Thousands of dead, millions dead, no matter what their location, is never something to cheer about.

So many of you just fail to realize that Bin Ladin was a direct client of the CIA. The CIA knew about his financial infrastructure and had relative internal information regarding his multi-national terrorist enterprise. But our government did nothing. Instead we embraced him, we supported him. We gave him even more fucking power.

Bin Ladin probibly did what alot of CIA clients tend to do, he probibly then started to branch off with the power given to him by our government, and started to do his own thing. He had then set up several new terrorist organizations, smaller ones during this time. The government is lying to you on corporate media. They're telling you they have no intelligence on his operations.

That's complete bullshit. You people talk about how you back the government because you want revenge, you people are such fucking hypocrites. You just want to take more inocent lives now.

Why do you think terrorists bombed the US, it's because we've been bombing their world community time and time, over and over. Now you want to seek bloody revenge? Your asking for a 3rd global war. The US did the same thing with Noriega, who was a drug smuggler, a direct client of the CIA and apointed into Panama. The CIA then used him as an excuse, a "threat to national security" to launch a full-scale invasion on Panama which killed millions of inocent lives. We threw the dead bodies of so many inocent people we killed into mass graves so we could hide them. We established military bases and invadid so we cold get deeper into the coke smuggling region to ship crack back into the United States.

And you americans supported this.

Just like how your about to support another invasion that's going to kill many inocent lives. Blood is on the hands of your government. If you want peace, then you need to change the policies of your government, and CHANGE THEM NOW!!! Poor people of this planet will never be safe from the US government ever again. That is what i'm afraid of.

If you would have changed your policies sooner, and stopped enforcing them upon the rest of the world by military violence, then none of this would have happend. Inocent people wouldn't have been killed in this terrorist attack because there wouldn't even have been a terrorist attack. But no. You had to be ignorant. You had to ignore the fact that we've killed over 1.5 million in Iraq, half of which are children. And that's not even the half of it. You had to ignore the fact that sooner or later the world community was going to respond, due to the fact that you've ignored the genocide you've been inflicting upon them for years and years. You had to be rich, powerful, and you had to do this by murdering. Now it comes back and hits us here at home, right where we can see it. But this time you cannot ignore it, because it's in all of our faces. Right where we can see and feel the pain, fear, suffering, and chaos.

And now we want to seek bloody revenge? Now you want to bomb the fuck out of every muslim? This show's an example of your own hypocricy and prejudice. Perhaps maybe now you feel only a fraction of what much of the world community has been feeling for too many years. So many years that it gets to a point where people respond in emotional outrage, because a human being can only take so much. For so long, it can only be a matter of time.

We've let emotions get in the way of your logical thinking. If you want peace, then we need to STOP bombing eachother, we need to STOP blowing eachother up NOW.

These terrorists didn't attack Canada or Brazil, or Mexico. They purposly attacked the US. And not because they were jelious. We have to stop the way we enforce our policies upon the rest of the world if we ever except peace...

But it's a bit too late for peace now. These terrorists didn't launch this attack just to make a statment. This time They've declared war. We could have avoided this, but we didn't care to focus on the issues effecting the world in our name, which compelled such an attack. And many, many inocent lives had ot be taken in NYC and DC, and now we want to take even more inocent lives by blowing them up, again?

Do we not think that if we seek violent retaliation that they won't respond? If they see their terrorist enterprise under fire, they're going to respond, allies will get together and it's going to trigger a 3RD world war. Would you rather have that if it ment getting your "revenge?". At the same time, we all think people who commit these types of violent acts against humanity should be punished. Then why havn't we punished our own government? How come america is the only thing on this planet that's too precious to question? We rather sit on our couches and watch sit-coms while mothers watch their children die in Iraq.

If it's true justice we seek, then we wouldn't seek a blood-thirsty retaliation which would kill even more inocent lives. Is that what some of you want? Some of you talk about peace, democracy ..etc and all this, yet you fail to realize that the US Government has always colaborated with terrorists. The US government has openly admited this many times in the past.

Blood is on the hands of the US Government, and now you want to put even more blood on YOUR own hands by supporting a violent, blood-thristy retaliation. That's not going to solve anything, it's only going to trigger another war. Another DECEPTIVE war. It's only going to trigger a very, VERY deceptive violent reaction that's going to kill millions of inocent people.

Panama for example. Or what we did after Pearl harbor for example, when we knew EVERYTHING, we had EVERY SINGLE CLUE that the attack was going to happen.

Many people out there need to realize that they are being to lied to. Because I see so many people out there asking the question, WHY? This confusion does not come without a sense of irony.

At this point in time, a 3RD world war could very well possibly mean the complete destruction of this planet along with the human race. Is that what we want? The circle of violence and destruction is only going to continue if we try to seek violent retailation.

We must not let our emotions get in the way of our logical thinking.

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an anarchist response to 'anarchist response'

by anarquista Friday, Sep. 14, 2001 at 3:16 PM

This is a not a problem with 'you Americans'. Since we were born, our government and media have been manipulating and lying to us in order to win our support. Obviously, they have succeeded in winning most people to support them.

If we are going to "put our emotions aside", we need to stop being arrogant fucks and stop attacking our neighbors and friends for being manipulated. Instead, we need to stop the manipulation and educate our neighbors and friends about what's really going on.

Times ahead are going to be tough enough without alienating ourselves by arrogantly talking down to all those who disagree with us.

Please, talk to your neighbors, friends, coworkers, and fellow students about what is going on. How capitalism requires war, how war requires scapegoats and patriotism, how the U.S. government (or any government) can never be a benevolent institution. How war and capitalism promote racism - the racism that is causing many American Muslims to be attacked at their mosques, schools, offices, and homes.

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Voice of Reason

by mango x Friday, Sep. 14, 2001 at 5:06 PM

...and a level head. Thanks for the good words, anarquista.



It is up to us and people like us to educate everyone to the truth of what is happening throughout the world, hence, IMC.

This was not an "attack on america", this was not an "attack against democracy" nor was it an attack by "irrational religious zealots". The symbolism of the targets is beyond obvious: it was an attack against global economic policies and their chief administrators and enforcers.

Let's close ranks and move forward, we have a big job ahead of us.

VIVA LA EVOLUCION!!

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Embarrased for anarchists

by libertarian socialist Friday, Sep. 14, 2001 at 6:00 PM

As an anarchist, I am embarassed by the top post. The immaturity of the tone is silly and pointing fingers at

people who are reading it is only going to alienate

people who might otherwise be sympathetic. It does

absolutely no good to constantly write *at* people by

saying:

"You had to be ignorant. You had to ignore the fact that we've killed over 1.5 million in Iraq, half of which are children. And that's not even the half of it."

Listen, I understand what you are trying to do, but don't

assume everyone is against you because you are a "anarchist." Grow up a bit and treat people as your

equal and they might actual listen to what an "anarchist"

has to say about these matters.

In my work, I always assume people are my equal and have

common sense. I respect them, they respect me. When I tell them I am an anarchist, I have just opened the door to

people asking why. And that is the first step towards

a social revolution.

In Solidarity,

anarchist.

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YES!

by PeeZo Saturday, Sep. 15, 2001 at 1:16 AM

I agree with the above message. If you're serious about good change then anarchism is the answer. If you would really like to succeed then you realize that self-righteous finger pointing will never convert anyone or even interest them long enough to listen to you.

A lot of self-described anarchists act more like weirdo TV evangelists than educated and concerned citizens.



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How do we do it?

by darrell Saturday, Sep. 15, 2001 at 3:46 AM

I am in agreement with most of the article but have one question. How do we stop a speeding train that is very close to impact. From what I have seen, most people are completely in the dark and REALLY don't want any help finding the light. Have any of you read "The Creature from Jekyll Island" by G. Edward Griffin. While watching the news Tuesday I was reminded of a section in his book that says people always need a prodded to be moved to war. We are running out of time. People of like minds must band together in order to make a lasting change. It seems we are running out of allies, so do you think once we are defeated that the victors will just hand over the remains of our land to the survivors? We need to do something while we still have a country to change. We have let our country become what it fought so hard to break away from so many years ago.

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