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Dear Circle A

by a trainer Thursday, Aug. 10, 2000 at 8:16 PM

we are about creating cultural change and creating alternative ways and bringing attention to it and supporting the masses and developing parallel government - that's what's up.

I can't say it enough - we need ALLIES, we don't got cash, we don't have political power, we don't have pretty movie stars, and we don't have mailing lists. We need the moral high ground and we need our ALLIES and our ALLIES don't understand property damage - that means dumpsters, tire slashing, regardless of target. Think about - what you gonna do with no allies? Keep on doing your own thing like it has been? And what is the effect on the media - you see it - we worked so freakin hard on this action and we lost any kind of differentiation between police violence and demo violence. The prop. destruction tactic has some benefits and some costs - evaluate them! um OK, err, lessee - if you're wanting folks to understand you, let alone join you, have you thought about DIALOG? Seems like you read the paper cause you're answering some of the misperceptions, so it's not like you're out of the loop. Did you notice how, like, when you burn the dumpsters you get on TV? cool- huh? And while you are on TV the people who aren't destroying property, but are practicing NV CD are getting peaceably arrested, then beat, but no one sees that cause their watching you on TV? You must have seen that. Could you carry on at your OWN action and not poach the hard work that lots of people do? Could you attack police cars that end up being repaired at working people's expense ANOTHER DAY? And if you are going to be around when the puppets are around could you let them STEAL THE SHOW for once. Puppets are doing more to change the culture (which always proceeds social change) and scare the man than any tire-punchin spray paintin paint tossin dumpster burnin. That's why the man arrests puppets and allows you to stand on that burning dumpster with your mask on your face scarin plain folk. Feel me? get it? Don't do it in LA. I appreciate the addition to the diversity of the movement your participation adds, but we got to work together. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE exercise restraint for a few days in LA. All you say about statist - corporatists rings true, just please think strategy. We need to show a DIFFERENCE between how the man comes down and how we do. Your actions are trotted out as examples of misbehavior and do not accurately reflect your OWN message. Smash the state when the puppets aren't around for just this once. We have a lot riding on this, and we are very close to demonstrating a real opening for allies of all sorts to join this movement - we need some space. Do us a big favor and maybe help out with some child care or some radical tree planting actions. Also if you want jail solidarity support which many BB wanted and needed at R2K could you please give us your support information BEFORE

going into the actions? How can we help each other help each other if there's no communication? What's up with that? Also please don't rationalize damaging police property with 1) 'if we disable the cars then we can get away easier so it's a good tactic.' That's not so. And even if it was they don't care, they'd rather just video tape the tires and roll it on TV over and over again tarring NV CD as 'violent'. Talk to me. Get it? 2) 'People of color communities want us to stick it to the man cause we can get away with it and they can't.' I know you didn't say this but I've heard it and it's racist, elitist, and wrong. Poor communities need police - go ask them. please allow some media space for the non-destructives, smash the state the next week - you'll still get press, I'm really sorry BB people got so targeted Aug 1 in the evening. They provoked you, they rode over you, they chose you to provoke. It's just to easy for them to get a reaction. There's too much at stake. Also, best to commit to NV fully and embrace it, cause if you fight fire with fire you better look around and check out where you are - cause this is not the third world. peace -a

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Message to Circle A (Response) The Idiot Thursday, Aug. 10, 2000 at 10:37 PM
re Dear Circle A Fernando Friday, Aug. 11, 2000 at 1:58 AM
Soldier vrs. Citizen TheNewOhioGreen Friday, Aug. 11, 2000 at 4:29 AM
We need alies. Joan Flynn Friday, Aug. 11, 2000 at 5:52 AM
A Call For Anarcho-Pacifism Vincent R Friday, Aug. 11, 2000 at 7:47 AM
A Call For Anarcho-Pacifism Vincent R Friday, Aug. 11, 2000 at 7:50 AM
Tactics Commander Tofu Friday, Aug. 11, 2000 at 8:52 AM
scare the plain folk Winston Smith Friday, Aug. 11, 2000 at 9:18 AM
Response Vincent R Friday, Aug. 11, 2000 at 9:24 AM
On Property destruction in Philly and Seattle Alec Friday, Aug. 11, 2000 at 11:30 AM
Response to Response Commander Tofu Friday, Aug. 11, 2000 at 11:58 AM
STOP IT!! Maverick Friday, Aug. 11, 2000 at 12:04 PM

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