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Censored by IMC/Free Speech TV

by Miki Seifert & Willie Franco Thursday, Aug. 17, 2000 at 2:25 AM
spgekko@hotmail.com

On Monday, August, 14, during the IMC/Free Speech TV satellite meeting, my husband, Willie Franco, and I were told that Silencing Dissent, a segment that we put together for the Monday night show, was deemed too controversial to be aired.

On Monday, August, 14, at 2pm, during the IMC/Free Speech TV satellite meeting, my husband, Willie Franco, and I were told that Silencing Dissent, a segment that we put together for the Monday night show, was deemed too controversial to be aired. The focus of this controversy was that one of the issues to be discussed was the questions that are being raised about the validity of the hypothesis that HIV causes AIDS.

This segment had been on the Monday Night Grid from the beginning and had been discussed at several meetings. There had been a few questions about the focus of the panel, and privately, one person, who is very much involved in the current medical model, expressed concern about this issue, but nothing else was said. We had expected more questions and were prepared to educate people on this issue and provide the scientific research that I used to write the script, but no one asked.

Below is a summary of the segment and the text of the script that was too controversial for even the alternate media.

Silencing Dissent was to consist of a 5-minute video package, followed by a 10-minute panel discussion. As our goal was to open people

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Hmmm...

by Anonymous Thursday, Aug. 17, 2000 at 2:46 AM

I don't know about "censored." It is possible the priority level of this piece was lower than many of the other things. They can't just air everything.

Also on Monday during the time the IMC show was to air, the police took over the building and parking lot to check for a supposed bomb, therefore nothing at all was aired.

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stopping misinformation is not censorhip

by Michael Eisenemenger Thursday, Aug. 17, 2000 at 3:08 AM
eisenmen@tao.ca

Sorry, but I really have to disagree with the charge of censorship here. If the IMC is to have any credibility, it has to filter out stories that are malicious either by intent or by virtue of misinformation. This is especially true in it's video programming which has a wider general audience.

The AIDS segment described above is so full of inaccuracies and assumptions that it nearly constitutes a public health menace. To many people it would come off as potentially homophobic (AIDS as a lifestyle disease) and racist (Africans are dying of poverty not AIDS related illnesses). Every AIDS case worker I know would be in rage over the broadcasting of such misinformation. I'm no fan of Gallo, but I don't think this approach to the facts would have any impact on his work or methodology.

There are also many reasons segments may get moved around or cut entirely from the show grid. The live TV coverage is following an event that is as unplanned as they come, the grid will change mid show if something happens. This segment also seems more extraneous than most to the issues at hand, and it's allot to cover coherently in 15 minutes (a huge chunk of time in the IMC grid by the way). One issue would have been more focused of an approach. It may have simply been a format or timing decision (panel discussions make for difficult TV, especially longer ones).

Also - I'm not involved directly in this IMC project, I'm watching from a distance this time around.

Michael

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Misinfomation???

by Shawn Ewald Thursday, Aug. 17, 2000 at 3:58 AM
shawn@wilshire.net

Michael,

Going by your logic they shouldn't air people claiming that

Mumia is literally innocent -- this is a very contraversial issue even among Mumia supporters and is viewed as misinformation by many.

Going by your logic, the Black Bloc should not be covered

because they are a very contrivesial issue among the activist community. Some think that they distort the message of the demonstrations.

There are many valid criticisms put forward by the AIDS Dissident movement and that are scientifically valid -- like why is AIDS called a virus yet the AIDS virus has never been isolated, if AIDS is a virus why does AIDS behave like no other virus in human history.

Example: Influenza, Symtoms: fever, flem in lungs, body aches and other cold like symtoms. Symtpoms are the same for all humans who contract Influenza. Influenza mutates yearly yet symptoms are always the same with each new mutation.

All other viruses behave exactly like influenza (i.e. known

symptoms, symptoms are the same for all humans who contract

the virus, virus symptoms do not change when virus mutates).

AIDS, Symptoms: too innumerable to mention. Symptoms vary

among various risk groups. Alleged reason for this is that the "virus" has allegedly mutated to affect various risk groups in different ways.

There is a well known test to isolate viruses, all known viruses have been isolated through this methon except AIDS.

Dr. Robert Gallo, the man who first put forward the theory that AIDS is a virus, had made the same claim about cancer, he was wrong. Much of his "cancer virus" research

was essentially rehashed to make his case for AIDS.

These are all honest questions, where are the answers?

I suggest that people check out the following websites:

http://www.virusmyth.com/

http://www.actupsf.com/

I agree that some of the dissident criticism is "out there" but you DO NOT defeat misinformation with censorship, you defeat it with DEBATE.

Finally, the claim that it is racist to say that people or color are dying of poverty is absurd. People of color ARE dying of poverty every day -- far more people of color are dying of poverty every day than are dying of AIDS.

Shawn

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2 of 3 aint bad

by anonymous Thursday, Aug. 17, 2000 at 4:40 AM

Hello, I'm just anonymous because there's no impressive reputation for me to advertise,

and currently no specific affiliations. Just a reader in science areas over the years.

Observations:

The whole HIV-AIDS controversy is in a less rock-solid category than the other two issues. While

it may turn out that the connection is off somehow, the details of it are way too specialized for full

analysis in this format.

The other two are absolutely valid, intense concerns. Never heard of the "konformist" guy,

though, and if "rebellion" and "subversion" are on his agenda, he's just as likely going to be a

liability to the good food movement as he is an asset. Readers should direct their research to:

www.mothers.org

www.bio-integrity.org

www.purefood.org

www.greenpeaceusa.org

among others. And, keep up-to-date with these and other threads via

www.newscenter.org

Keep it healthy!

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SHAME ON THE CENSORS

by SF SUNSHINE Thursday, Aug. 17, 2000 at 10:49 AM

It is outrageous that discussion of the HIV theory as genocide and the poisonous drugs being promoted was not allowed at IMC. AIDS is Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome, a condition of immune deficiency. Immune deficiency is caused by intravenous drugs, blood transfusions and malnutrition. The World Health Organization does not require HIV to be present for them to call it "AIDS." They require simply a high fever, cough or serious weight loss, all symptoms of many curable diseases. In the US, most people who supposedly have "AIDS" are/were intravenous drug users and/or had improperly treated VD. Shame on IMC.

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Re: Michael Eisenmenger by Christine Maggiore

by Willie Franco Sunday, Aug. 20, 2000 at 3:37 PM
spgekko@hotmail.com 310.210.9929

The type of censorship endorsed by the IMC--accompanied by cries of homophobia

and racisim--is nothing new. Many people that fight the malevolent interests of

multi-national chemical companies march in lock step with profiteering

pharmaceutical giants when it comes to HIV and AIDS.

In contrast to the baseless notions of Amy Goodman and Michael Eisenemenger,

people actually living in Africa--rather than reading about it in the

newspaper-- are very appreciative of my work and my challenge to orthodox views

of AIDS.

With regard to the unfounded and unkind comments by Mr. Eisenemenger that I

promote racist agendas, please see these excepts from three of many notes I've

received from Black Africans since returning from the AIDS conference in Durban

and a month in South Africa:

"My name is Dr. Vitalis Chipfakacha MB. MD. MPH and am head of HIV/AIDS in a

Province of South Africa. I have just read your book "What if everything you

thought you knew about AIDS was wrong". Thank

you very much. I would appreciate a list of all the materials you have on the

subject and their costs. Further is there any other material you can send by

E-mail. Thank you very much for standing up for the common man."

"Your books arrived today, thank goodness. Uganda needs this information. The

biggest problem I have seen is that our people have been lied for too long that

they take HIV to be real. People have been hoodwinked not to see the dire

consequences of Poverty and senseless wars ravaging the continent

causing disease and malnutition as the bedrock of 'African AIDS'."

"I met you at the 13th Int AIDS (Pharmacutical) Conference in Durban South

Afica. Firstly let me apologize for my ignorance or should I say my

miseducation as a health care worker. I work for the Health Department in and

already have been catching hell for my questioning about what we are preaching

to the public. I'm originally from Mozambique and South Africa, and want to

help in all ways possible. I've misled people to believing certain facts, so

now I need to correct this. I have a lot at stake, my kids to support, etc, but

my guilt over what exactly we are doing as health care professionals,

continually troubles me!"

I have similar notes from Black Africans, many with similar credentials to Dr.

Chipfakacha, as well as from HIV positive and AIDS diagnosed Africans directly

affected by these issues.

With regard to my alleged homophobia, I have three huge binders full of praise

for my book and Alive & Well's work, the majority of which come from gay men,

and four of Alive & Well's seven board members are HIV positive gay men.

I would be happy to share our collection of letters of support with Michael and

others at the IMC (or with those at that supposed bastion of free thought,

Pacifica Radio) who are openly prejudiced against HIV positives who dare to

think outside the lines of the AIDS orthodoxy.

I challenge Michael to cite the "inaccuracies and assumptions" in my book that

he maintains "constitute a public health menace." And I challenge any of the

many AIDS case workers he knows to meet with me for an open public dialogue on

these issues.

I also encourage everyone on this list to share this email message in an effort

to alert others to censorship perpetuated by the very people who profess to

fight against it.

Thank you,



Christine Maggiore

Following Michael's letter, please find an account of my recent trip to South

Africa that will be published in the next issue of Awareness Magazine.

Following that is a brief summary of what happened with Mikki Sieffert and

Willy Franco's program "Silencing Dissent."

=====

Stopping Misinformation is not censorship

By: Michael Eisenemenger

eisenmen@tao.ca

Sorry, but I really have to disagree with the charge of censorship here. If

the IMC is to have any credibility, it has to filter out stories that are

malicious either by intent or by virtue of misinformation. This is

especially true in it's video programming which has a wider general

audience.

The AIDS segment described above is so full of inaccuracies and assumptions

that it nearly constitutes a public health menace. To many people it would

come off as potentially homophobic (AIDS as a lifestyle disease) and racist

(Africans are dying of poverty not AIDS related illnesses). Every AIDS case

worker I know would be in rage over the broadcasting of such misinformation.

I'm no fan of Gallo, but I don't think this approach to the facts would have

any impact on his work or methodology.

There are also many reasons segments may get moved around or cut entirely

from the show grid. The live TV coverage is following an event that is as

unplanned as they come, the grid will change mid show if something happens.

This segment also seems more extraneous than most to the issues at hand, and

it's allot to cover coherently in 15 minutes (a huge chunk of time in the

IMC grid by the way). One issue would have been more focused of an approach.

It may have simply been a format or timing decision (panel discussions make

for difficult TV, especially longer ones).

Also - I'm not involved directly in this IMC project, I'm watching from a

distance this time around.

=====

I can't really say how the 13th International AIDS Conference went as I spent

the entire time at our exhibit booth. Because of the near constant crowds of

delegates interested in our materials and discussions, I was not able to attend

a single session, panel, presentation, or cultural event. I spent eight full

hours each day engaged in lively, polite, and very productive conversations

with a wide range of people from around the world. In fact, all I saw of the

conference were the restrooms, the cafeteria, and the hundreds of people who

lined up to talk, listen, and learn about alternative views of HIV and AIDS.

In contrast to the media hype about the less than warm welcome that awaited us,

our inventory of 490 pounds of printed materials and 500 books began to run low

by the morning of the second day. Testimony to the success of our presence is

the number of times we raced out for photocopies and the hundreds of books

orders we carried back home. These requests for books, information and further

contact come from doctors, educators, activists, health ministers and other

government officials, treatment counselors, heads of AIDS organizations, and

HIV positive and AIDS diagnosed people from an amazing array of countries

including South Africa, Botswana, China, Ethiopia, India, Iran, Korea, Kenya,

Malawi, Namibia, Nigeria, Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey and Uganda. Rather than

being put down or challenged--or even worse, ignored--we found that our

alternative data and discussions we were warmly and enthusiastically embraced.

Despite all the big talk from AIDS enthusiasts about putting so-called AIDS

dissidence to rest, the highly touted "showdown" did not occur officially or

informally, and the statements made in the Durban Declaration were dismantled

point by point, complete references, before the conference began. You can find

this detailed response to the stance taken by the 5,000 signing AIDS experts at

www.thedurbandeclaration.org and I would be happy to mail a printed copy to any

interested reader without internet access.

The whole idea of a confrontation between AIDS rethinkers and AIDS hardliners

was just one of many media misrepresentations. Had journalists promoting this

notion done their homework, they would have quickly discovered that our

organization was the only official presence at the conference representing

alternative views, and that only one of the "dissident" members of President

Thabo Mbeki's AIDS Advisory Panel, Dr. Charles Geshekter, was registered as a

conference delegate. Instead, they misled the public and missed the real story:

me, my husband and three-year-old son took on the entire AIDS establishment in

Durban.

I found that much noteworthy news went unmentioned and that the obvious irony

of many events escaped the attention of most reporters. For example, uncritical

global coverage was given to a humanitarian rally demanding toxic AIDS drugs

that South Africa can't afford in which protesters carrying signs that warned

"One Dissident, One Bullet" marched alongside members of the Nobel Peace Prize

winning group Doctors Without Borders, while unanimous media silence followed a

rally of traditional African healers using affordable natural therapies for

AIDS who were excluded from official participation in the conference.

Of the thousands of reporters hanging around Durban, my husband was the only

one to investigate the shanty town a few miles from downtown and speak with

people living at ground zero of the AIDS epidemic. In taped interviews,

residents told him how conference organizers prohibited them from attending

public events associated with the AIDS conference--a conference whose theme was

"Breaking the Silence." Mainstream journalists also failed to address the

question of whether malnourished people crowded into homes made of scrap wood,

cardboard and other found objects--often with no electricity or running

water--might suffer from diseases now called AIDS as a consequence of these

conditions.

Among many unreported events was ACTUP's admission that their widely publicized

take over of pharmaceutical giant Bohringer Engleheim's booth was staged and

that Bohringer actually funds ACTUP. This revelation made ACTUP's cries of drug

company greed and profiteering ring more than a bit hollow, and revealed that

Bohringer's post-take over announcement of lower prices for their AIDS drug

Nevirapine was a publicity stunt than a compassionate gesture.

The most disturbing and blatantly incorrect of the accounts coming from the

conference had to be the international news reports of booing crowds and a

walk-out during President Mbeki's opening address. We witnessed an attentive,

respectful audience and that the president's remarks inspired a standing

ovation. Second to this was an unchallenged front page news story "Young,

Talented and Dead" that featured ominous predictions of a lost generation of

South Africans and charts suggesting huge death tolls from AIDS. Simple math

showed that what the charts actually indicated was that the number of deaths

from all causes including AIDS among South African men and women over age 15 is

remarkably low at 8/10ths of 1% annually, a rate almost equal to that of the

United States. We also learned that in contrast to hysterical media reports of

plunging population, infant mortality rates have not increased in South Africa

during the AIDS epidemic and that life expectancy there is at an all time high.

We discovered that the media is remiss in its portrayal of Nkosi Johnson, the

11 year-old HIV positive AIDS activist who spoke on behalf of drug therapies at

the opening ceremony. The media has popularized the idea that Nkosi's illness

is proof that HIV causes AIDS and that Mbeki is wrong for considering poverty,

unsanitary living conditions and drug treatments as causes of immune

suppression in his country. This idea is based on the fact that Nkosi was

adopted into a middle class home as an infant and claims that he began drug

therapy a few months ago only after becoming ill. During an interview filmed by

my husband, Nkosi told me that contrary to official statements, he has been on

toxic AIDS drugs for eight years and has become ill while taking them. I

tactfully shared this revelation with his adopted mother Gail Johnson and the

rest of South Africa during a live radio program that had us both as guests.

In addition to a private meeting with Gail and Nkosi Johnson, I was also able

to see Winnie Mandela at her home in Soweto and introduce and discuss

alternative approaches to South Africa's alleged AIDS epidemic. I also had the

unparalled honor of chatting with my hero President Thabo Mbeki in his office

at ANC headquarters in Johannesburg one evening.

This article just touches on the many enlightening and encouraging experiences

we had during our South African sojourn. I hope you will check our web site for

further articles and for information on my husband's documentary film of our

adventures.



> On Monday, August, 14, during the IMC/Free Speech TV satellite meeting, my

> husband, Willie Franco, and I were told that Silencing Dissent, a segment

> that we put together for the Monday night show, was deemed too controversial

> to be aired.

>

> The focus of this controversy was that one of the

> issues to be discussed was the questions that are being raised about the

> validity of the hypothesis that HIV causes AIDS.

>

> This segment had been on the Monday Night Grid from the beginning and had

> been discussed at several meetings. There had been a few questions about the

> focus of the panel, and privately, one person, who is very much involved in

> the current medical model, expressed concern about this issue, but nothing

> else was said. We had expected more questions and were prepared to educate

> people on this issue and provide the scientific research that I used to

> write the script, but no one asked.

> The focus of the segment was how and why dissenting scientific opinions to

> the prevailing orthodoxy are not heard in the mainstream media. We selected

> the issues of fluoridation, HIV/AIDS, and genetic engineering to illustrated

> this global pattern. These issues are commonly discussed in the mainstream

> media and impact the essentials of life -- food, water, and the medical care

> that people receive.

>

> The premise of the discussion is that the scientific evidence upon which the

> public policy on these issues was based is questionable, at best; that

> scientists who raise valid scientific concerns are defunded, and their work

> is not published; that this occurs because of the vested interests of

> corporations and government agencies that benefit from the accepted dogma;

> and that the public is prevented from learning about this struggle within

> science and how it impacts their daily lives. As this shows how money is

> influencing public policy, we felt that it was an appropriate topic to be

> aired during the DNC and the D2K actions.

>

> The panelists have and continue to fight to get this information into the

> public debate. They were:

>

> Jeff Green is Director of Citizens for Safe Drinking Water, a national

> organization that provides scientific documentation as well as grassroots,

> legislative and organizational support to individuals and groups of citizens

> concerned for the quality, access, and safety of their public water systems.

> They have sponsored successful proactive legislation in California and other

> states to prohibit the addition of hazardous waste fluoride from the

> phosphate fertilizer scrubbers into the public water supplies. He has owned

> and operated a management consulting firm for health professionals,

> including more than 400 dentists, since 1972, and teaches on a nationwide

> basis the protocol for determining the source and remedies for chronic

> breath malodors that may be emanating from the mouth, nasal cavity or

> digestive system.

>

> Christine Maggiore is a former AIDS awareness educator, the founder of Alive

> & Well AIDS Alternatives, a healthy, unmedicated HIV positive mother and

> author of the book "What If Everything You Thought You Knew About AIDS Was

> Wrong?" which has been translated into four languages and is used as a text

> at several American and African universities.

>

> Robert Sterling is the chairman of The Great Boycott, a group opposed to

> genetically engineered foods and the power of the chemical industry. He is

> also the editor of The Konformist (http://www.konformist.com), the internet

> underground magazine dedicated to rebellion, konspiracy & subversion. His

> works have appeared in The Whole Life Times, Sightings, Disinformation,

> Parascope, Steamshovel Press and Paranoia. He is a contributing editor to

> The Los Angeles Free Press and has a regular "Konspira-palooza" column in

> Getting It online.

>

>

>

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