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by Indyreaderwriter
Friday, Feb. 27, 2015 at 8:07 PM
changes to keep out the riff-raff repeaters were made
here at la.indy.media and notice the lack of effort most will make to jump the hurdles and whatallittakes to respond, even if we want to we seem to say "why bother if it takes that much More effort ?"
Open Letter to LA indymedia re hardly any more comments
Intentions surely were well meant to somehow curb the extraneous repeaters that filled any article with their own topics and agendas, ignoring whatever the article said or in 5 paragraphs adding 4 words of any nearby relevance. So a new system was installed, hopefully as an experiment.
so look now ! what happened ? did most commentators simply go elsewhere to do their proliferation on their own selective slanted views? where did they go to?
did this move make indymedia less relevant to many who dont read only articles but learn and also get irritated at commentators. Both are often interesting, as in the Guardian - a favorite comment site that provides extensive and diverse information beyond the limited views of any article there.
But this has seemed to be a failure and loss here at Indy with the experiment that may need to be
1. reconsidered seriously for changing again
2. a return to an altered way of having people write, read and come to Indymedia at all, as w/o comments there is less of interest here now.
3. find a different method of being able to monitor or avoid the loss of those who did actually make comments of relevance to the article - not agreement but staying on topic
4. be thanked for these efforts, knowing that volunteers have their own lives, economic woes, and limited time, but otherwise, if this stays as it is, it seems as if the site has become 1/2 of what it was before the shift to how comments can appear being changed.
5. do nothing else and more of those who returned to learn from each other here will start our own blogs and lose this community site in LA.
whatever... changes are not always productive as planned and unintended consequences are actually the norm, tho not considered 'normal' but are.
please consider # 3 above. thanks for all you workers-for-free do here.
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by johnk
Thursday, Mar. 12, 2015 at 12:10 AM
I think the main things that happened were that the news sites added comment moderators, so the comments area isn't so horrible. Also, they got a court ruling that prohibits reposts on other sites - so the news sites are the go-to location to comment.
(I happen to think the decision to disallow reposts was reasonable.)
What also happened were facebook and reddit. FB has human filtering, so the quality is pretty high. Reddit does as well, but is a little more community oriented. Both tend to end up signal-boosting mainstream media.
Finally, the other thing that has happened is that there are more alternative news outlets, so the people who needed IMC to reach an audience has changed. They have many more media outlets. So the end up on Ustream, or on their own blogs, or the big commentary sites.
I also suspect that the culture of writing was growing a lot from the 1990s when email became widespread. Through the 2000s, that culture waned as the internet has become more of a photographic and videographic medium.
Also, when the net was slow, there were many more readers, and many more writers, mainly because everyone had to be a reader or a writer. That's no longer the case.
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