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ISIS is not Islam!

by #BurnISISFlagChallenge Monday, Sep. 01, 2014 at 4:22 PM

ISIS is threatening the entire Middle East. This action originated in Lebanon- its a small gesture you can take to let the Kurds, the Yizidis the Christians and the other besieged minorities of the Middle East know that they are not alone.

ISIS is not Islam!...
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1. go to Google Images and type “ISIS flag”. Choose one that you can print on one page.
2. Print it (if you can print larger ones, all the better).
3. Get someone ready to take a picture or film.
4. Light it up (just be sure to not set anything else on fire).
5. Take pictures of the thing burning (no need to include anyone in the picture, although landmarks in the background will add to the weight of the message.
6. Post on all your social media and send to all your friends, using the hashtag # BurnISISFlagChallenge
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#BurnISISFlagChallenge

by #BurnISISFlagChallenge Monday, Sep. 01, 2014 at 4:24 PM

#BurnISISFlagChallen...
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One more from the #BurnISISFlagChallenge
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Burn ISIS Flag Challenge

by Abir Bidi Monday, Sep. 01, 2014 at 5:27 PM

If the Prophet Muhammad were alive today, he'd be the first person burning that flag down
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CIA's All CIA Duh ISIS & ISIL are Satanic Miltants serving The CIA

by CIA's ISIS & ISIL Satanic Militants Tuesday, Sep. 02, 2014 at 1:58 AM

CIA's ISIS & ISIL All CIA Duh are Satanic Militants Subservient to The CIA and Satan God's Adversary and NOT Allah or God. Their Goals are Satan's Goals not God's as are their Methods. ISIS & ISIL answer to The CIA and their Master Satan.
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Yes it is Islam

by Sandy Duncan Wednesday, Sep. 03, 2014 at 4:53 PM

In actual fact the ISIS / ISAL Islamic terrorist cult *is* Islam, and denial only makes it possible to allow Islamics to pretend it's not their problem.

Christian terrorism is far worse than Islamic terrorism and Israeli terrorism, however every cult savage refuses to accept the fact that they are part of the problem, that they are terrorists, that their colleagues are terrorists, and that's how these death cults manage to survive century after century.
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Of COURSE it's islam

by Dude Friday, Sep. 05, 2014 at 7:38 PM

ISIS/ISIL is a group of avowed koranic adherents (islamists) engaged in koranically-sanctioned activities (cutting off the heads of people they consider to be non-doctrinaire) for koranically-motivated reasons, conducted in a koranically approved fashion. . The koran orders islamists to kill non-believers, and to do it in this fashion. It is dishonesty and lies to pretend these ISIS/ISIL are somehow NOT islamists, and that their actions are somehow not islam. - of COURSE they are. This is what islam is all about. When an islamist speaks of 'freedom', it is not Western-style freedom he refers to, it is freedom to worship in an islamic manner. Similarly, the word 'innocents' in the koran does not apply to non-muslims, and only muslims are worthy of mercy. It is taquiah (lying, but it's okay if you're lying to a non-muslim) when you say 'don't blame islam for this', but you are not fooling anyone. If islamists want to be seen as a legitimate Religion, and not as a fascist totalitarian death cult, then they must police their own compatriots' behaviors.
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The Bible also has a lot of murder in it

by johnk Saturday, Sep. 06, 2014 at 6:44 PM

I was re-reading Genesis, and God is telling people to kill other people.

I was thinking of re-reading the book of Joshua, where God tells the Israelites to raid cities, kill people, and go to war.

Perhaps it is the warlike, hateful parts of these religious books that makes these large religions successful. If murder and racist domination is embedded into the key religious texts, it gives a society the moral authority to kill and oppress.

Consider "Manifest Destiny" in North America: it was a religiously justified invasion, settlement, and genocide.

So when people, particularly Christians, condemn Islam, I take it with a grain of salt. They're just being bigots, in my opinion.
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I smell the stink of 'intelligence'

by Wacker Saturday, Sep. 06, 2014 at 8:33 PM

These preparation pieces towards yet another Western financed terrorist group is reminiscent of the pre-9-11build up towards the Ben Laden CIA asset as the patsy in another false flag terror event was baked into a fantasy essential to goad the American public to accept a never ending police-warfare state ...
Beware.
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Only the islamists kill in the name of their book

by Dude Tuesday, Sep. 09, 2014 at 10:27 PM

It doesn't matter how many other ANCIENT religious texts espoused murder of non-believers, 'johnk'. What matters is that ONLY the islamists are STILL running around butchering people in the name of their 'religion' TODAY (and muslims do it with REGULARITY). So you "take any criticism of islam with a grain of salt, do you?" What you're trying to do here is draw a false equivalency, pretending that religious wars waged by Jews, Christians, Hindus, Zoroastrians, or a hundred other religious groups a thousand or more years ago are somehow equivelent to the muslims of ISIS/ISIL butchering muslims and non-muslims alike TODAY! That is sheer nonsense. More likely, it is sheer Takiyah, or deceitful LIES aimed at the kuffirs, or non-believers. No other group treats non-adherents as if they were sub-human, and just fit for slaughter, the way muslims do. You should be condemning these atrocities, as should all civilized 21st century people, but instead, you minimize, deny, make excuses, and ultimately try to pretend that "everybody butchers their enemies", using examples from 3000 year-old texts as if they were today's news reports. Clearly YOU are muslim, just as clearly you should be ashamed.
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ha ha " ONLY the islamists are STILL"..blah blah...

by another Israeli wanker?^ Tuesday, Sep. 09, 2014 at 11:58 PM

you fools are sooo full o shit!
thanx for proving it.
what raging paranoia
'Dude' sounds like a perfect example of programing.
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neoNazis for nessie

by laughing man Thursday, Sep. 11, 2014 at 6:16 PM
nessie@pattonstate.com

Sheepshit is still here, still stupid after all these years.

Congrats, Indymedia, for being nothing but a day care center for the mentally infirm.
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ha

by after all these years Friday, Sep. 12, 2014 at 12:54 PM

look who's typing....." after all these years"
still an insane, racist psychopath, camping on this IMC.
One of our dedicated zionist, bat sh*t, mental cripples.
With problems of projection and pen envy.
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The danger of saying ISIS is not Islam Read more: The danger of saying ISIS is not Islam

by Liz Lightstone Wednesday, Sep. 17, 2014 at 1:44 AM

I’ve been thinking about this a lot and posted this morning on twitter about David Cameron’s comment (“they are monsters, not Muslims”). I’m very concerned by growing reprise that “Islamic State” (IS) is not Islam, that they are not Muslims. I can understand where it’s coming from but its a very dangerous form of political correctness. Clearly not all Muslims support IS, nor are all terrorists Muslim. But there is no doubt that IS say they are acting on behalf of Islam, they are Muslims and they want to establish an Islamic Caliphate.


If you detach their monstrous ideology from what we like to think of as Islam, then do you detach from the Muslim community responsibility for denouncing it? I have no problem if moderate Muslims — as some have done (albeit late in the day) — stand up and say that IS does not represent what they believe to be Islam. I similarly say that Naturei Karta, the “ultra-Orthodox” anti Zionist Jews — who by the way simply throw words, not stones, not swords and are nonviolent — do not represent Judaism in any form that I know. But I want the moderates to stand up and say it.

More importantly, do you, by saying IS is not Islam, they’re not Muslims, detach from the Muslim community at large the responsibility for helping prevent radicalisation which we know full well goes on in certain mosques and on campuses? (It is astonishing how many campuses world wide have HUGE investment from Saudi and Qatar and huge investment in BDS, anti Israel, and radicalisation programmes.)

I am not blaming any particular Muslim community but just as I hung my head in shame when extremist Jews murdered that poor young man in Jerusalem after the death of the three Jewish teenagers, so the Muslim community worldwide must say, not that IS is an Israeli / CIA conspiracy (as Iran currently claiming) but that something is rotten within the Muslim world and it must be stopped.

There are Middle East and other Muslim societies, particularly Iran, bringing up their children on a relentless feast of hate — against Jews, against the US, against the West. There has also been dreadful oppression of Sunnis by Shias in Iraq, of Shias by Sunnis in Iraq (depends which year and who’s in charge) and all over the ME, Iran and Pakistan etc. IS, a radical Sunni movement, has grown out of those struggles and has been strongly funded by Qatar (they would claim not but even if not directly, certainly indirectly and they directly fund Hamas, another murderous Sunni regime). But we must wonder why so many well educated EU-born men AND women are flocking to take part in the barbaric IS regime. It is a shame for the whole of British society that some of the absolutely worst offenders (“Jihadi John”, the women in charge of the sex slaves) are British Muslims who have turned their backs on their homes and gone to Iraq. Some might just be hot headed young people looking for an ideology. But some have been indoctrinated and that must stop, now.

We need interfaith discussions; we need to avoid the vile rhetoric that appeared everywhere, instantly, over the Israel Gaza conflict. The rhetoric which painted the problems in black and white, condeming Israel without contemplating the impact, the propaganda and the lies that Hamas were feeding the West and that were so willingly believed (and spread by the media which apparently Jews control — if we do, we do it very badly!). We need to open our eyes to how the hate is poisoning the youth of our land.

We have to consider the anti-Semitism (and sorry that’s what it is) that led to the huge disparity (disproportion to use an emotive term) in the speed, ferocity and extent of the response to the Israel Gaza conflict compared with, for instance, how many months it took anyone to notice and even quietly protest that Assad was slaughtering hundreds and hundreds of civilians (nearly 300,000 dead in three years in the conflict, many many civilians including thousands of children but none of the emotive hour by hour accounts we had over Gaza); that IS was truly ethnically cleansing Mosul of Christians, was waging a genocide (still is) against the Yazidis, was systematically raping women and children as a punishment (there has never been a single case of rape by an IDF soldier — not something to celebrate but notable in modern warfare).

Why were so few people raging over these mass slaughters and war crimes and yet out on the streets in minutes over Israel defending itself against 100s of rockets raining down aimed at civilians.

My take was that it was fuelled fundamentally by anti-Semitism (the singling out of a particular state etc) but also importantly there is no sanction for criticising Israel (and Jews). However, Muslims don’t/won’t criticise Muslims and others are afraid of doing so. I realise that’s a generalisation and some, such as the Quiliam Foundation are doing wonderful work in this area. But you only have to look at how slow the UN (with one member one vote, and just one Jewish state but 50+ Muslim states) has been to denounce Syria and even ISIS, yet has criticism of Israel as a standing agenda item.

Muslims who support democracy, who reject a Caliphate, who reject the barbarism of IS now need to speak up. In Britain and the EU and all Western liberal democracies, we cannot have increasing ghettoisation, we cannot have areas run by Sharia law where police turn a blind eye to abuse of women and children, and we have to say, this is Britain and the law is British. We have to have mutual respect for all faiths and people of all faiths have to abide by the laws of the land.

I have not set out to offend with this post and I am trying to read it as if everything I’ve said about Muslims mentioned Jews instead (a la the terrible piece by Matthew Parris in The Times a few weeks ago). But we do not solve the problem by pretending that fundamentalist Islam is not Islam and is not run by Muslims. As Edmund Burke so wisely said “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” I truly believe the Muslim communities in Britain (I can’t speak for the rest of the world) are now speaking out louder and more strongly — from my perspective they weren’t and there has been a reluctance to criticise bad Muslims in direct contrast to the willingness to denounce Israel at the drop of the hat.

At least with IS it is very clear, no one can blame Israel and in fact Israel is the front line for the West against IS. Thank God Israel is there. Not least, it’s proving a safe haven for UN troops running away from IS in Syria on the Golan border. We need to unite in our condemnation of Islamic terrorists whether ISIS, Hamas, Al quaeda or the Muslim Brotherhood – they all subvert democracy, fail to respect other faiths and are murderous in their methods; they may differ in the detail but not in the fundamental ideology. And that is what all of us, Jews, Muslims, Christians, Atheists need to speak out
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Naturei Karta are the only one's

by crazy_inventor Wednesday, Sep. 17, 2014 at 3:47 AM

I have any respect for

these regular zionist hit pieces from megaphone hasbara agents mean nothing - no one here gives a rat's ass what you post under different pseudonyms.

most of them are pre-pasted propaganda, often years old, recycled over & over again, despite the millions of dollars israHELL spends on PR, this bottom of the barrel blatant zionist vomit is the best you can do

ISIS is entirely a product of israHELL and saudi arabia who israHELL is in bed with, nothing but bullshit propaganda, and all these hit pieces are to distract the american taxpayers israHELL is sucking dry from their latest round of war crimes and genocide in illegally occupied Palestine, while they steal water, oil and tech from everyone including their so-called allies, continue their neo-con endless war and export their chief product - lies


your hasbara manual clearly states to not engage audiences who are wise to your lies with such obvious propaganda because the manual warns we will see right through it, and it will do more harm than good..

imagine the stupidity and desperation when even your own lying manual is ignored. the BDS movement is really having an effect with the fresh outrage of the latest mass genocide behind it

hasbara clowns are their own worst enemies ;)

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look it up

by what? Wednesday, Sep. 17, 2014 at 9:56 AM

Doesn't anyone know that ISIS used to be the Israeli Secret Intelligence Service? Back in the 90s.
Wow, what incredible coincidence.
Not.
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Fail

by Tom Vee Wednesday, Sep. 17, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Except that they speak Hebrew in Israel, not English. Duh.
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willfuly stupid...?

by Tom Vee-fail- Wednesday, Sep. 17, 2014 at 8:22 PM

In an excerpt from a 1990 C-SPAN interview with Brian Lamb, Dan Raviv and Yossi Melman, authors of the book Every Spy a Prince: The Complete History of Israel’s Intelligence Community (Houghton Mifflin 1990), describe (passage at about 2:40) how the Israeli Prime Minister’s Office officially refers to its subordinate organization “the Mossad”–Hebrew for “the institute” and denoting Israel’s most well-known intelligence agency–as the “Israeli Secret Intelligence Service,” or ISIS, “interestingly enough [drawing on] kind of the British model” for referencing such government entities, Raviv remarks.
http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/09/15/isis-israeli-secret-intelligence-service/
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ISIS=ISIL= terror

by Toby Blome Thursday, Sep. 18, 2014 at 6:11 AM

From the start, exactly what to call the extremist Islamist group that has taken over much of Syria and Iraq has been problematic. At first, many called it the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS). However, due to differences over how the name should be translated from the Arabic, some (including the U.S. government) referred to them as ISIL (the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant).

To make matters more complicated, the group later announced that it should simply be called the "Islamic State" – a reference to the idea that the group was breaking down state borders to form a new caliphate. A number of media groups, including The Post, the Associated Press and, eventually, the New York Times, adopted this name, while others stuck with ISIS and ISIL.

Now the French have added another complication. On Monday, the French government released a statement that included a reference to the group under a different name: "Daesh."

France had hinted that it would begin using this term – how the group is referred to in much of the Arab world – before, but this week appears to be the first time that the country has used it in official communications.

“This is a terrorist group and not a state," Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius told reporters last week, according to France 24. "I do not recommend using the term Islamic State because it blurs the lines between Islam, Muslims and Islamists. The Arabs call it ‘Daesh’ and I will be calling them the ‘Daesh cutthroats.’ ”

That logic is certainly understandable, and the French aren't alone in bristling at the idea that an extremist group gets to take the moniker "Islamic State."

Last month, Egypt's leading Islamic authority, Dar al-Ifta, called on the world's media to stop using the term, instead suggesting a new term: “al-Qaeda Separatists in Iraq and Syria” or QSIS. “The initiative by Dar al-Ifta came to express the institution’s rejection of many stereotypes that attach the name of Islam to bloody and violent acts committed by such groups,” Ibrahim Negm, an adviser to Egyptian grand mufti Shawqi Allam, told al-Arabiya News.
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What ISIS really is

by Ahmed Thursday, Sep. 18, 2014 at 6:17 AM

ISSI =Institute for Software Integrated Systems
ISIS =Institute for Science and International Security

This PROVES that ISIS is a conspiracy.
This PROVES that ISIS has nothing to do with Islam.
This PROVES that ISIS is a zionist conspiracy.
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the war criminal post is always a good citation

by crazy_inventor Thursday, Sep. 18, 2014 at 6:49 AM

I simply call ISIS

blowback

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more like a direct fire downrange

by blowback Not Thursday, Sep. 18, 2014 at 6:39 PM

ISIS is and was a creation of western intelligence.
It's a gun pointed by the dark network towards the people who pose any threat to the current banking systems. The center of this network. It may be the catalyst to impose martial law and all that will mean.
Beware and prepare.
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