Many other discussions besides the fear-mongering ones on most local news places in LA are questioning the sudden surge not in water-use but in fear-explosions, drowning the media repeatedly.

LA Times published a front page article on Sunday 7/27/2014
"Calculating water usage a tough task" pointing to the incomplete data and thus interpretations of what is actually happening in this southern california desert.

California officials admit they have incomplete water usage ...
www.latimes.com/.../la-me-water-use-war-20140727-...
Los Angeles Times

When state regulators tried to tally water use across California recently, ... a hard time figuring out just how much water is being used by Californians. (Justin Sullivan / Getty Images). By Hector Becerra contact the reporter ... The Los Angeles Department of Water and Power initially left the data for ... July 27, 2014.

well, facts are facts until they are unfact-ed and statistics are games with numbers that even sometimes reflect some realities, temporarily.

for more info:

Amazon.com: How to Lie with Statistics (9780393310726 ...
www.amazon.com › ... How to Lie with Statistics

How to Lie with Statistics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Lie_with_Statistics
Wikipedia

How to Lie with Statistics is a book written by Darrell Huff in 1954 presenting an introduction to statistics for the general reader. Huff was a journalist who wrote ...
How to Lie with Statistics - www.goodreads.com

Bestseller Darrell Huff runs the gamut of every popularly used type of statistic, probes such things as ...
[see elsewhere for more on this topic ]

and everyone Wants To Be THE Expert, the One Who Knows It all All Right and all now.

oh well.......

How to save water.

Human beings need around half a gallon to a gallon of water per day.

If it's yellow, let it mellow.

If it's brown, flush it down.

Each flush takes over a gallon of water.

You can live for a day on that water, if you hadn't taken a piss in it.

To measure water usage from a hose, time how long it takes.

A hose typically flows at 10 gallons per minute.

Three minutes of watering is 30 gallons of water.

You can live for a month on that water.

Let the lawn die.

Washing dishes is necessary. So keep doing that. You can do it in five gallons of water if you use a drain plug.

Washing clothes takes around 15 to 20 gallons of water. Just do a full load and hope for the best. Your clothes are pretty dirty.

A showerhead uses 1 to 2.5 gallons per minute. So a five minute shower takes 5 to 18 gallons.

Look up "navy showers hollywood showers".

Global Warming Up Close: It's Time To Drink The Toilet Water

The Effluent Society

This is what we're reduced to after 30+ years of politicians pretending there isn't a problem.


Brantley Hargrove at the Texas Monthly with the story of one city that will soon be drinking its own toilet wastewater. Don't laugh, this may be in your future, too:


None of these measures have turned out to be enough. When the lakes dip below 25 percent—and they will soon—the city will move from Stage 4 Drought Disaster water restrictions to Stage 5, the precise details of which were a matter of conjecture until April, when the city government decided upon them.

Among other things, the city’s outdoor swimming pools won’t be filled from the municipal supply and the car washes around town will be forbidden to use city water two days a week—or seven days a week if levels dip below 20 percent.

It’s a set of restrictions that, like this drought, are without precedent in Wichita Falls. The residents have been asked to change the way they live—to leave behind the days of plenty and adapt to a new reality. A city may survive for a time without electricity or natural gas, but water is the lifeblood of civilization.

We need it to drink, cook, and flush away excrement, the public health hazard that bedeviled our ancestors for millennia and continues to kill millions every year in the undeveloped world. The extremity of need in this part of Texas is so profound that Wichita Falls plans to turn this ancient relationship with human waste on its head—by drinking treated toilet water.

On an early April morning, Schreiber strides across the grounds of the River Road Wastewater Treatment Plant in size fourteen ostrich-skin boots, explaining how he plans to keep the city from becoming a ghost town. This is his corner of Texas—he grew up in the German farm country just to the south, in Windthorst—and he feels the weight of his responsibility acutely. Schreiber walks to a basin that is churning with chlorinated water from Wichita Falls’s toilets, showers, dishwashers, and sinks. “We don’t have an aquifer we can tap and get fifteen million gallons a day out of,” he says. The city draws its water exclusively from the nearby lakes. “Every lake within a one-hundred-and-fifty-mile radius is in the same shape ours are.”


...If there’s any squeamishness about drinking treated toilet water, the city isn’t hearing about it. “My first response was ‘Oh no, I won’t be drinking it. We’ll use bottled water,’?” says Mike Mason, who services water pumps around Wichita County. “But assuming it passes all the state tests, we’re at a point now where we have no other options.”

“They understand they’re running out of water,” says Daniel Nix, Schreiber’s utilities operations manager. “We don’t have anybody standing up in council meetings and saying, ‘No way.’ What we are hearing is ‘Why isn’t this done already?’”

see this is where such magical thinking leads us - to drinking toilet water

there's nothing about the SUPPLY of water running out - only disputing and bickering over the DEMAND

squabbling over who gets what - no concern at all over *where it comes from*


now apply that same 'me-my-mine' kind of thinking (ayn rand is that you?) to the watersheds these desert areas steal the water from, and you see the flow being cut off, because the water (what's left of it anyway) of the people at the lake is again 'me-my-mine'.

begets the beginning of water wars

The title of first American city to be abandoned for lack of water will be awarded in the next decade or so, and it’s hard to decide whether to bet on Las Vegas or Phoenix. It could be a tie.

In Vegas, “the situation is as bad as you can imagine,” according to climate scientist Tim Barnett at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography. Vegas gets its water from Lake Mead, impounded by the Hoover Dam on the Colorado River.

It is lower now than it ever has been since the lake was filled in 1938. Another 37 feet and the Las Vegas intake pipe will be sucking air.

Then what? According to Rob Mrowka, a scientist at the Center for Biological Diversity, “As the water situation becomes more dire we are going to start having to talk about the removal of people.."

"Once the surface of Lake Mead drops the next 87 feet, below the level of the “2nd straw” and representing less than 1/3 of the volume lost in the past decade, there will be insufficient head pressure to spin the turbines in the base of the dam.

Lake Powell is in equally dire condition and when electricity is no longer supplied by those facilities everyone in the Four Corners states, as well as those in several neighboring ones, will go dark and it won’t matter one bit how much silty, super-polluted water remains in either reservoir. I don’t see how those residents have more than 5-6 years to either relocate or die in situ."


"Along with rising sea levels, we’ve drained the major aquifers dry. Too many people demanding too much. It’s not rocket science, just the “rules” you have to play by in an finite world of limited resources.

Building mega-cities in the dry desert was and always will be just plain stupid. Mankind does not control Nature. Nature does and always has (and always will) control mankind of what he sets out to do.

I also worked for the Bureau of Reclamation in Boulder City (Hoover Dam). An ambitious project for sure, but doomed to climate impacts. A longer “straw” will only help suck the lake down even further. This does nothing to mitigate climate change – or the silly decision to build a megapolis in the desert.

Phoenix is no better off. The Colorado “river” is a tiny trickle you can literally step across before in reaches Mexico. Dry desert areas have long been abandoned once they become unihabitable. Modern civilization is not immune to the effects of a warming planet and changing climate.

If you live anywhere in the south (the entire southwest, which of course includes Texas too) – move. Now. Real estate will become very difficult to obtain as millions flee rising temperatures, fires and lack of water.

Bottom line – you can’t suck up (more) water that isn’t there. Spend whatever you want, but no amount of spending will solve this."

so all the water that we have individually been so carefully saving and not-using and trying to be ohhhhh 'so good' as desert dwellers and then...


water ruptures and explodes out on cement, streets, and campuses...wow

what a message there is here...

what is it ?

everyone will surely demand to have the Only RIGHT answer, of course...see comments coming to the rescue right now...

step across this ^

suck other people's water until there's none left.

- then bitterly complain about how they're ENTITLED to water in a desert..

notice the above QUOTED post - notice where they recommend you MOVE NOW while you still can

..move to somewhere that actually has water

Get groups and cameras out to the reservoirs and see what's going on. Think Jack Nicholson in Chinatown. Visit the farm lands and water system. The truth is out there.

- the burning of fossil fuels is melting the arctic ice and weakening the jet streams, altering the climate, leading to permanent drought

the CO2 that was emitted 40 years ago is responsible for the drought we're seeing now, and we've emitted much more since then, so even worse drought is already "baked in the cake".

additionally 3 dozen positive feedbacks are starting up, which during the same time frame (the next 30-40 years) will greatly accelerate the climate chaos, producing wet-bulb temperatures too hot to survive even with a fan, making these affected areas uninhabitable, like death valley

we are now told to [1] not wash cars, [2] yes to tell on your neighbor but anonymously so they wont know you snitched on their water use, [3] and to drink less water, more sodas, alcohol, plastic-bottled-stuff, and [4] please also urinate less often, if you can hold it in.

we are told on 'The News' repeatedly, [1] not only the extemees, to 'save water' in homes, [2] to keep dirty as we can stand, [3] to notify CDC if any antibiotic-resistant germs dont comply with our water shortage-usage and [4] to PLEEESE ! only do as you are told - on any airwaves, printed papers, and uniformed forces.

or

[1] the jails are too full for excess water user types [2] prisons are crowded, even solitary confinement cells [3] executions have been delayed but may be reinstated if dead bodies do not need to be cleaned up before…whatever they do to them and [4] boating and fishing are allowed and not controlled at all because that water is not drinkable, yet.


city water faucets will soon come with sink-meters that
automatically with an app or remote shut off when more than 3 glassfuls of water have used per day -- that is for family of 4, of course, as all housing units are calculated on 'family of 4' as if that has become the norm. If there are less in that housing unit, they will be forced to become 4, or have diminished water supplies.

agricultural watering continues as always before with a small rate increase that will be reduced when the lobbyists and cronies have negotiated the subsidies that make the price increase actually a decrease.

golf courses are not to be touched or left to be other than bright-green-green, with no artificial turf ever included, for businessses cannot be conducted without such necessary facilities for chumminess and secret agreements.

all restaurants may no longer serve water, only beer, alcohol, canned/bottled drinks -- and soup is no longer cooked [too much water usage]. Only dry foods and dehydrated vegetables are on all future menus, unless a 213% surcharge is paid, in advance. food trucks are excluded from above as they can use water from truck when necessary- in order to make up for their driving expenses and reduce land use food outlets.

car washes, laundromats and water 'parks' for children and all playgrounds will have 1/3 of 2013 water supplies available only. so grey'd clothes, streaked cars, dusty children and no-fun-anywhere for those under 12 y.o. is the new mode of this land. No exceptions !

Remember, everyone must give up something to save those who are in this world for profit and publicity only.

All water fountains are dry and removed to avoid tampering with govt properties.

All vending machines are limited to 1 purchase per person [credit cards + ATM cards only] per ea weekday, or 1 for every week-end.

Sodas are limited to foam, fuzz, artificial flavor 'added' and continue with pictures of luscious fruit to induce sales. Both in fast-food places or grocery-sales places, same rules apply.

Grocery stores may [not obligatory ] continue to sell liquids in containers - but limited - with coupons issued by local govt and enforced by the Health Dept of that local area.

Water is precious and 'bodily fluids' should be measured and maintained pure [see Dr. Strangelove's dialogue for correct definition and instructions...they apply to all in USA, especially those in California and mostly to those in the Los Angeles areas = all of the above included].

Enjoy the scenery, what is left of it, rocks, colored dusts, carcasses of native animals, scuttling insects [not affected by lack of water or clear water needs ] and the sky. Desert lands are meant to be lived within it's boundaries and conditions, with equality for all within that territory.

BYOW wherever you want to go. Or go without.

..barren of people, because people require lots of water to live.

some animals and some plants can survive in deserts, but not people, especially entitled narrow minded selfish reactionary people, who want to ignore reality and live in a fairy land of magical thinking where merely bitching about something is seen as an effective way to deal with nature's harsh realities.

- let this map be your guide

"One would think that 36+ million people would be starting to notice that something is seriously wrong."


As we previously commented, when scientists start using phrases such as "the worst drought" and "as bad as you can imagine" to describe what is going on in the western half of the country, you know that things are bad. However, in recent weeks the dreadful situation in California has gone from bad to catastrophic as the U.S. Drought Monitor reported that more than half of the state is now in experiencing 'exceptional' drought, the most severe category available. And most of the state – 81% – currently has one of the two most intense levels of drought.

While California’s problems are particularly severe, that state is not alone in experiencing significant drought right now. There are wide swaths of moderate to severe drought stretching from Oregon to Texas, with problems impacting numerous states west of the Mississippi River.

Some of the most severe droughts outside of California are impacting large pockets in Oklahoma, Texas and, particularly, Nevada, where more than half of the state is currently experiencing one of the two most intense drought conditions.

Most people just assume that this drought will be temporary, but experts tell us that there have been "megadroughts" throughout history in the western half of the United States that have lasted for more than 100 years.

If we have entered one of those eras, it is going to fundamentally change life in America.

And the frightening thing is that much of the rest of the world is dealing with water scarcity issues right now as well. In fact, North America is actually in better shape than much of Africa and Asia. For much more on this, please see my previous article entitled "25 Shocking Facts About The Earth’s Dwindling Water Resources".

Without plenty of fresh water, modern civilization is not possible.

And right now, the western United States and much of the rest of the world is starting to come to grips with the fact that we could be facing some very serious water shortages in the years ahead.

"Another climate change / global warming story (on this right wing site) that does not use the phrases climate change or global warming.

Ostriches!"

California’s drought has reached levels so high and widespread that it’s now the most severe drought ever recorded by the federal government in the state, according to new data released Thursday.

The U.S. Drought Monitor, which began issuing drought reports in 1999, showed that the majority of the state is now in the worst category of drought conditions. Specifically, roughly 58 percent of California is considered to be in “exceptional drought” — a category marked by dark red in the picture — which is the most severe of five drought categories.



Freedman also pointed out that even though the Drought Monitor has only been keeping record of dryness since the late 1990s, there’s evidence that this particular drought is “more severe in many ways than a landmark drought in the late 1970s, and is comparable, if not worse than, events that occurred since instrument records began in the mid-19th century.”

California’s drought has been serious for some time. In May, the U.S. Drought Monitor showed that “severe drought” — the level just below “exceptional” — officially covered every inch of the state, setting up “unprecedented” fire conditions in several areas. The extreme drought and heat have depleted reservoirs and even aquifers, increasing the state’s chance of earthquakes, a recent Nature study found.

The severity of the drought now is also increasingly threatening the state’s $44.7 billion agricultural industry, the Drought Monitor noted, saying California’s topsoil moisture reserves are “nearly depleted.” It’s impacting people’s lives, too — earlier this month, California agreed to impose fines of up to $500 on residents who were caught doing things like washing cars with running hoses, watering lawns during the hottest parts of the day, and letting water from outdoor sprinklers run down sidewalks. Some Californians are even taking to social media to call out and shame neighbors and businesses that are wasting water.

The latest report of the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a conservative panel which draws from the expertise of more than 800 scientists around the world, said it is “more likely than not” that man-made global warming is causing longer and more intense droughts in many regions, including the American Midwest and California. Climate change has also been shown to worsen Western droughts, even if it doesn’t reduce precipitation.

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this ^ is the mild, business-as-usual, shop-till-you-drop, don't-scare-the-consumers version of what's happening - the data I've been posting is the real story

we are at the beginning of a never ending mega-drought

this is just the beginning - you haven't seen 'nothin yet

Unfortunately, while the situation in California is already pretty bleak, it looks like things are only going to get worse.

In fact, it's possible that all of the American southwest could soon be seeing the devastating drought conditions that Californians are facing.

That's because the largest surge of heat ever recorded moving west to east in the Pacific Ocean, often referred to as a Kelvin Wave, which was supposed to start an El Niño and bring tropical-like rains to the West Coast and southwest, just dissipated, after it was absorbed by abnormally warm ocean waters.

An El Niño is marked by the prolonged warming of Pacific Ocean surface temperatures, when compared to the average temperature. El Niños usually happen every two to seven years, and can last anywhere between nine months and two years.

As warm water spreads from the western Pacific and the Indian Ocean to the eastern Pacific, it brings rain and moisture with it, bringing rain to California and the American Southwest.

So, during an El Niño period, winters are often a lot wetter than usual in the southwest U.S., including in central and southern California, where drought conditions are currently the worst.

That's why Californians were hoping for a strong El Niño period, to bring the rains and moisture that's needed to help ease the drought.

Unfortunately, while some weather models are still predicting that an El Niño is possible, the chances of an El Niño strong enough to break the devastating drought that California is seeing are now very, very slim.

As a result, there's probably no end in sight to the current drought conditions in California.

And, since warm ocean waters that bring rain are moving farther north up the Pacific, While Oregon and Washington and Alaska will get rain, the jet stream is set to extend drought-like conditions to much of the southwest.

It could get so bad that there's now a very real possibility that devastating drought conditions will soon cover everywhere from Texas to California.

Warmer ocean waters, like those that absorbed the record Kelvin ocean heat wave, and the drought-like conditions they're helping to influence, are a direct consequence of climate change and global warming.

Because of climate change and global warming, our oceans are getting warmer and warmer, shattering previous temperatures records on what seems like a daily basis.

And as our oceans continue to warm, we'll have more severe forms of weather, like the historic drought that has engulfed California.



"California and the rest of the American southwest may soon look more like the Sahara"

Unfortunately for California, the US Southwest, and for a growing portion of the country, the most recent drought may be just one in a string of many increasingly worsening events to come.

Climate models predict a wholesale drying out of the US Southwest and Central US under an intensifying regime that has already begun to take hold.

For Californians suffering under a three year long drought, such long-range forecasts indicate that the worst may be yet to come.

But Californians are not alone, as model predictions show most of the US coming under an increasing regime of drought as human-caused warming intensifies throughout the 21st Century. Drought emerging now in the US Southwest is expected to expand north and eastward, eventually taking root and reaching an extreme intensity in the Central US. The front of drought then rides into the US Southeast and Mid-Atlantic as, by mid-to-late century, it surges northward into Canada.

The lesson to take from this is that few in the US are spared a fate of worsening drought spurred by human-caused climate change. And with climate change clearly linked to the California drought, we may be getting a bit of the bitter taste of what’s still to come.

UPDATE: US Drought Monitor now reports that the California Drought is now the worst in state history and that soil moisture levels are nearing zero for much of the state.

The only category of drought higher than the one now assigned to nearly 60 percent of California (the USDA’s Drought Monitor calls it “exceptional”) is “Biblical.”

Three years in, there is no relief in sight — the much-anticipated El Nino pattern of sea-surface temperatures in the equatorial Pacific, which usually increases rainfall in California, has not materialized.

It would take a full year of normal rain and snowfall to restore surface waters to normal levels.


It is, right now, one of the worst droughts in the history of North America. Bad enough, says Lynn Wilson, chair of the School of Arts and Sciences at Kaplan University and member of a UN delegation on climate change, that “we may have to migrate people out of California.”

Which immediately led to a post on the aptly named Lunatic Outpost ( I am not making any of this up) titled “UN panel recommends moving people out of California.” In black transport helicopters, one assumes. (For the record: Dr. Wilson’s UN service is not her day job, and her observation had nothing to do with the UN.)

But just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean you might not have to leave California. “Civilizations in the past have had to migrate out of areas of drought,” says Dr. Wilson, and although heroic measures can be expected before any such decision is reached, she says, “it can’t be taken off the table.”

Ominously, heroic measures are already being taken. Californians can now be fined $500 for washing their car or watering their ornamentals. Time to move to Phoenix. Oh, wait….

Like an earthquake far out to sea, the California catastrophe has raised a tsunami of consequences that has not yet reached the doorsteps of the rest of the country. Except for much higher prices for lettuce and, one assumes, arugula. California industrial agriculture produces half of America’s produce — fruits, vegetables and nuts — and to do it sucks up 80 per cent of the available water. (Which is why, when the drought gets really, really bad, the government cracks down on car-washing.)

With half a million acres of farmland idled for lack of irrigation water, with lettuce wilting and fruit trees dying, the hurt will soon spread beyond the region’s devastated farmers. Just this year, the California Farm Bureau estimates, the average American family should expect to spend $500 more on food because of the California drought. And next year, it’s going to get serious.

Next year, or soon thereafter, they are going to start running out of groundwater to pump onto their fields. And while the effects of that will be obvious and immediate, there’s more: they have already pumped so much water out of the Central Valley’s deep aquifer that the Sierra Nevada has rebounded upward by a half inch just in the last decade — six inches in the last century-and-a-half — and the massive San Andreas Fault has been twitching with unusual clusters of earthquakes nearby.

The UC Davis study went to great lengths to monetize the costs of the drought just this year to the state ($2.2 billion), to agriculture ($1.5 billion), and so on.

But it may not be until we see the first battalions of climate refugees trudging across the Oregon border in search of rain that we comprehend the true cost of screwing around with Mother Nature.

anyone can write fear-horror stories and quote some far out other persons 'version of of what "estimates, guesses, predictions, imaginings, fantasies, and whatnots else the mind can create".

so ???

fear pushing is like drug dealing...
trying to cause sensational images and selectively repost and repeat the same as commercial mass media uses...for what ourpose?
not to tell it truthfully
but to get attention to that author or topic
and to feel important as those messages were "important" or valuable.
mostly they are NOT...just pushing
FEAR. ...sort like amphetamines or other artificial stimulants
just to feel sumtin ? or to be aroused ? or to get attention, finally ?

easy.
try doing something more difficuly and constructive...
not the immediate easy gratification of mass media tactics
yuk!

I post pictures for the reality impaired and the science adverse

-any chart or graph will be dismissed, but it's hard to keep that stance, when actual pictures of reality are staring you in the face..

who do you believe - your lying eyes or some internet troll

"
But just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean you might not have to leave California"

but to be paranoid is to exaggerate what dire circumstances MUST WILL MUST BE come....insisting that any dangers are extinction-based

to be paranoid is to like drama, extremes, and hawk news that fits that fearful and grandiose mindset

to be paranoid is not a 'bad' or 'evil' state of mind but one that cannot reside in the intermediate, moderate, middle-way or real world that changes and shifts and creates differences constantly, without putting Big Huge FEAR up front !

to be paranoid can be fun and games ...for a while but is exhausting and fixed/ rigid for long term living

to be paranoid is to find what will only confirm those fears and those 'facts' selectively selected to prove "I Am Right !" and "only I know the Truth" etc. etc. to be bigger, better, smarter, writing more and proving his-self as The Best of alllllll dem other dumb ordinary folks...

yep, it can be exciting. but part of reality and truth is Never Fixed and as Limited as any human mind prefers to portray.

try trusting that your life, my life, our lives as we live in USA now is only a temporary state and place and does not need to be 'easy' nor 'always same' or even 'comfortable, safe and perfect' most of the time.

To have less water may be a reality, especially when UCLA's Sunset Blvd water waste showed how much still flows in our LA pipes....regardless of shallower lakes, dams, and minds.

when we run out, oh well.... whatever we do next is whatever is possible....

and yes, plan, worry, call out the * wasters *

[i.e. commercial businesses of all kinds that use as much Public Water as ever before or pay a little more and use more for their own profits and keeping up with their competitors]

call out the agricultural BUSINESSES commercial corporations that continue to demand and get extra water for their trees [not for our use but their profits, still same effects of watering their organizational 'needs', not The American California Public's ]

complain to anyone - because we know no one is listening - they are just BLAMING : the ordinary residential and homeless and anyone who dares use their regular water use. We do not waste - as we are people who pay and make no profit on their water use - we do not waste our paid-for-utilities.

The loud screaming and fear-mongering is striking the basic fear of “dying of thirst”...not of having less water - to wash clothes or food in. while the vociferous advertising and promoting of limiting residential common-folk water usage is for a reason, and it is not altruistic, realistic nor honest either !

join in with the capitalist-water-users and add to their campaigns - where they get more [ get MORE water, profits, $, political power and land too, etc ] and while everyone else, the majority of the California inhabitants [native ones ] get less.

as usual. what's new here ? who is being fooled by headlines and fancy photos...not photo-shopped but that become instead news-hopped-up-dramatically = faked. The pix are not fake, but the stories promoting them are. Any change is a Danger ! Any lack is a Death Threat !

Anything less than they/we had a moment before is a Serious Loss ! Anything PR’d , promoted, sold via any media to a gullible fearing [already well trained to fear and buy-more – even pills and diversions – anything! to allay those commercially-induced-fears ]

fear not dear one as all will end in the ways it will,
and you too will not be heard or here to proclaim and display your fears so well.

too bad. death is at our door while profits continue to roll in into jackpot [gambling image] machines in elite islands of what livable lands are left.

so ? what ?

your explaination is a work of art, so I'll leave you to it ^

have fun

"A catastrophe of unimaginable proportions is unfolding in the Arctic Ocean. Huge quantities of methane are erupting from the seafloor of the East Siberian Sea and entering the atmosphere over the Arctic Ocean.

Peak levels as high as 2363 ppb were recorded at an altitude of 19,820 ft (6041 m) on the morning of August 12, 2014. The middle image shows that huge quantities of methane continued to be present over the East Siberian Sea that afternoon, while the bottom image shows that methane levels as high as 2441 ppb were recorded a few days earlier, further indicating that the methane did indeed originate from the seafloor of the East Siberian Sea.

On August 12, 2014, peak methane levels at higher altitudes were even higher than the readings mentioned on above image. Levels as high as 2367 ppb were reached at an altitude of 36,850 ft (11,232 m). Such high levels have become possible as the huge quantities of methane that were released from the seafloor of the Arctic Ocean over the period from October 2013 to March 2014, have meanwhile descended to lower latitudes where they show up at higher altitudes.

Methane eruptions from the Arctic Ocean's seafloor helped push up mean global methane levels to readings as high as 1832 ppb on August 12, 2014.

Ironically, the methane started to erupt just as an international team of scientists from Sweden, Russia and the U.S. (SWERUS-C3), visiting the Arctic Ocean to measure methane, had ended their research."


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on another note, cali politicians have reached an agreement to only try to SPEND their (our) way out of the drought by approving a $ 7 billion tax on YOU

- throwing YOUR money at the predicament is all they know how to do. the construction will comsume huge quantities of CONCRETE which is a huge source of CO2, further accelerating the very predicament they're trying to address, but notice none of the $ 7 billion is allocated to desalination like foolish israhell is pushing, because it takes huge amounts of energy with their 'advanced technologies' to do so and it will never scale to meet demand..

- all of these measures are in furtherance of business-as-usual with no effort or even thought directed to the core issue - industrial civilisation's looting & polluting, which is typical and which drives even more nails in our Near Term Extinction coffin.

..the arctic is spitting such nails right now

Re: wetter waterer

We are in a severe drought. We will need to force agriculture to cut its usage. It can be done by cutting hereditary water rights by some fraction. It can be done by raising the price of water to agriculture. Raise the price, and they'll find ways to conserve it.

Our usage stays high because, at least in Los Angeles, the people don't seem to be informed that we're in a severe drought. I suspect it's mostly the mainstream media, particularly the print and online media, pushing the story, and the ethnic media not pushing it. Also, newer LA folks won't remember the old days when we had to change our toilets and empty pools.

The westwood leak is not proof of anything. It's just one accident, and our water system is vast. There are 10 million people in the county, and nearly every single person has access to water from a tap.

We will need to reduce water use again. We'll have non-flushing urinal or toilet systems. We'll have even more shower restrictions. We'll have more carwashing restrictions – the $10 carwash will become the $15 carwash. Restaurants will have to adjust. We should look into hydroponic farming. We should also cut back on things like soda and beer, which consume more water than what ends up in the bottle.

Your rant is amazing in its illogic, too. The best sources of water are fruits and vegetables, which have purified the water and stored it in a relatively sanitary package, complete with vitamins, sugars, and some minerals. An orange is almost entirely water, for example. While it's not a water-saving plant, it can be watered with well water, which is basically clean but not purified, and the water within the orange is clean. A cucumber is even better – a fast growing plant that stores water in the fruit, and the rest of the plant is relatively dry.

Re: Crazy_inventor – LA is not a desert. It's got a couple rivers and used to have a lot of streams, which are now covered. There have always been trees and brush. Normally, we get a little over a foot of rain, and the plants get a lot of watering from the overnight dew. It does use much more water than the climate provides. We're not good at harvesting water from the air, or building in ways that allow us to keep water longer.

People will eventually move from LA when the costs of living here get intolerably high. Capital needs to exit the area first.

so, the 'solutions' you've proposed are to conserve but not evacuate (business-as-usual), to use well water even though fossil aquifer's which take thousands of years to replenish, are so depleted that salt is encroaching and RUINING them (see israhell) and 'harvesting dew' in a desert (palaeoclimatologists beg to differ on the claim it's _not_ a desert) which is also just business-as-usual.

there IS no solution, it's a predicament, you can't spend your way, conserve your way, magicly think your way, or ignore your way out of it, because you 'forgot' to acknowledge the 800 lb gorilla in the room, man-made climate chaos triggered Near Term Extinction.

- which means not only is it a permanent drought with no end, in a desert, but the wet-bulb temperature will soon climb to lethal levels - around 2035 or so according to the most recent data IF NOT SOONER.

what this means is, not only will all plant life die (which solves the farms hoarding 80 % of the water problem) but humans (this means YOU - I think) cannot survive under such conditions, even with a fan blowing on you.

think death valley

apply all your techno-fixes, 'solutions' and magical thinking to death valley, because THAT is what you're facing within only a few decades.

don't believe me? look at the data (I've been posting it and warning people here all along but here again are the citations)

http://arctic-news.blogspot.fr/

https://robertscribbler.wordpress.com/

OAKLAND - “Food & Water Watch is disappointed with the $7.5 billion water bond passed by the State Legislature and Governor Brown, now slated for the November ballot. While this bond will not solve California's water problems, it will stick taxpayers with serious debt. The bond prioritizes $2.7 billion of taxpayer dollars on wasteful dam projects: spending money to pour more concrete won’t create a drop of new water or increase water use efficiency. An investment in dams is an investment in private interests, not in the public interest.

“In addition, the bond would funnel taxpayer money to purchase more water for big agriculture interests on the west side of the San Joaquin Valley, where corporations are exporting water-intensive crops grown on toxic soil. Meanwhile, the Brown administration has yet to take serious action to promote water efficiency and stop the over-pumping of our groundwater.

This bond measure fails to respond to the current drought and relies on solutions from the last century.”

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the dams they have now are nearly dry, building more dams does NOTHING to address the core issue - 36 million people living in a desert, the unfolding climate chaos, the never-ending drought, the ruined aquifers and the coming soon lethal heat.

the money being thrown at the predicament is a futile gesture of kicking the can down the road, pretending that the needed _years worth of rain_ will magicly fill them AND the ones already sitting empty AND reverse the damage of dried/dead compacted soils along with the salt rapidly building up in what living soils are left.

- this is exactly the kind of thinking that got us into this predicament in the first place, so it's just more dig in & double down, keep repeating the same mistakes as things slow turn to burning hell

I check the various 'progressive' websites with their wedge issues, corporate media echo fluff pieces, spectacles and if-it-bleads-it-leads worthless distractions, and the unfolding climate chaos is barely mentioned, and even then we get the business-as-usual fragmented never-connect-the-dots, solf pedaled version like the above story. People seem to be actively ignoring this reality and these websites - like corporations - only seem to care about the bottom line, page views, to hell with reality.

yet reality is what's doing us in..

this is why climate chaos is ALL I talk about/present on community affairs, even though we're not facing any immediate impacts here locally so far. I see this dynamic playing out everywhere capitalism has infected - the active denial, the willful ignorance and the magical thinking, so when the impacts spread here, I want to be well practiced in the fine art of getting through to people despite the pathology induced by capitalism. The more people think they've got a good thing happening the stronger the denial, so while this area (mid-west) is a hotbed of tea bagging war criminal southern hospitality, the denial runs even stronger on the west coast I see, because california is 'the place to be'.

not for long