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Dugard Rape-Kidnap Case Highlights Anti-Women Government

by Investigate CIA pedophilia rings Wednesday, Sep. 02, 2009 at 6:34 PM

Article with comments questions possible CIA involvement in the Garrido-Dugard child kidnapping ring, and what people can do to prevent these acts from continuing..



The world is riveted in horror at the blatant negligence at best, more likely an INSIDE JOB, that is the 18-year rape of now 29 year old Jaycee Lee Dugard, by a paroled rapist, well-known to the federal, state and local governments for his heinous crimes as he had been convicted of rape & kidnap and sentenced to 50 years to life and then paroled after only 11 years so he can do exactly the same thing in the same area 3 years later, and the FBI openly states they did not even consider him a suspect. THIS IS AN INSIDE JOB.

The world is riveted in horror at the blatant negligence at best, more likely an INSIDE JOB, that is the 18-year rape of now 29 year old Jaycee Lee Dugard, by a paroled rapist, well-known to the federal, state and local governments for his heinous crimes as he had been convicted of rape & kidnap and sentenced to 50 years to life and then paroled after only 11 years so he can do exactly the same thing in the same area 3 years later, and the FBI openly states they did not even consider him a suspect. THIS IS AN INSIDE JOB.

The majority of the world is female and we will not let the US, State of California or Contra Costa County governments forget the heinous crime that was perpetrated, including forcing the raped child to face death, the definition of pregnancy, to bear 2 children by the rapist, one at age 14 and one at age 18.

Here is the FBI's open statement that this paroled, registered sex offender was NEVER EVEN CONSIDERED A SUSPECT. All they had to do was look on the sex offender list to find him, and he had committed exactly the same crime in the same area in 1977, paroled in 1988, kidnapped and raped Jacyee Lee Dugard in 1991 when she was 11 and continued raping her for 18 years ALL WHILE PAROLE OFFICERS VISITED THE RAPIST GARRIDO'S HOME TWICE A MONTH.

1. SF Chronicle, 8/31/09, "Couple never on FBI radar in CA girl's kidnapping"

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/08/31/state/n161038D85.DTL

2. This man was ON PAROLE and A REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER and the police claim they did not have a search warrant to search his backyard where the woman and girls were housed. THIS IS A LIE. IF THEY THOUGHT THEY NEEDED A WARRANT FOR A PERSON ON PAROLE, THEY COULD EASILY HAVE GOTTEN IT. THE POLICE ARE COMPLICIT IN THIS HORRIFYING KIDNAP-RAPE CASE AND SHOULD BE SUED. THIS OUTRAGE WAS PERPETRATED FOR 18 YEARS! No search warrant is needed to search the property of a registered sex offender.



Here is the SF Chronicle's version of 8/28/09, filled with information that is a ringing indictment of the police state:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/27/BA4N19EJ35.DTL

Pertinent paragraph:

"Officials said Garrido served time in Nevada on kidnapping and rape convictions in the 1970s, '80s and '90s and was paroled after one stint in 1988 and another in June 1999. It was not immediately clear where Dugard may have been while Garrido was in custody."

WHERE WERE THE POLICE? They never searched his backyard while he was in prison? They never searched his backyard just before he came out of prison? They never searched his backyard while he was on parole, which is for PRACTICALLY ALL HIS ADULT LIFE.

Here is what the Contra Costa County Sheriffs said:

"Pratt said she had called Contra Costa County sheriff's deputies to investigate, but that officers "told me they couldn't go inside because they didn't have a warrant. So they just told him they'd keep an eye on him.""

THIS IS COMPLICITY. SUE THE CONTRA COSTA COUNTY SHERIFFS.

HERE IS MORE ON THE COMPLICITY OF THE POLICE IN ANOTHER SF CHRONICLE STORY, 8/28/09 AT

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/27/MNHQ19EU4O.DTL

"In 1971, Phillip Garrido was convicted of rape and kidnapping after taking a woman prisoner in Reno and assaulting her somewhere else in the Tahoe area, the brother said."

And the same 8/28/09 SF Chronicle in an article entitled:

"Cops searched home, but didn't see compound"

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/27/BA0Q19EMR7.DTL

"Police, however, had been told about the backyard lair before, according to a former neighbor."

"Erika Pratt said that two years ago, she called police after seeing what looked like a living compound with tents and sheds."

THE POLICE KNEW ALL ABOUT THE BACKYARD COMPOUND AND DELIBERATELY, WITH MALICE AFORETHOUGHT, DID NOTHING.

AND NO TRUANT OFFICER LOOKED INTO THE FACT THAT THE 2 CHILDREN WERE NOT IN SCHOOL ALTHOUGH THEY WERE OFTEN SEEN IN PUBLIC.

The US government, the State of California and Contra Costa COunty should be sued for MILLIONS OF DOLLARS for the kidnap, rape and torture of the victim, and the refusal to provide education to the 2 children, as well as never rehabilitating the rapist.

Here it is from SF Chronicle 8/28/09 by Henry Lee, "Sheriff: 'No excuse' for missing kidnap house" at

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/28/BAT219F97H.DTL:

"A warrant would not have been needed to search a paroled sex offender's property."

The Sheriff is admitting millions of tax dollars in liability as the rape victim and her 2 daughters, now living with the rape victim's parents, need therapy, education and job training. The Sheriff should either resign or be fired immediately.

The rapist essentially got tired of it all and turned himself in by bringing his rape victim to his probation officer.

In addition, the rapist wore a GPS-linked ankle bracelet, monitoring all his movements. Did the monitor fall asleep at the wheel or was he paid off?

Here is the story:

From:"Questions arise over how kidnapper went undetected" by AP reporters,TERRY COLLINS and BROOKE DONALD at;

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_kidnapped_girl_found

"As a parolee, Garrido wore a GPS-linked ankle bracelet that tracked his every movement, met with his parole agent several times each month and was subject to routine surprise home visits and random drug and alcohol tests, California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation spokesman Gordon Hinkle said."

"A neighbor called 911 in November 2006 and described Garrido as a psychotic sex addict who was living with children and had people staying in tents in his backyard."

"The investigating officer spent a half-hour interviewing Garrido on his front porch but did not enter the house or search the backyard, Contra Costa County Sheriff Warren E. Rupf said. The deputy, who did not know Garrido was a registered sex offender even though the sheriff's department had the information, warned Garrido that the tents could be a code violation before leaving."

The last unannounced visit by a team of local police agencies was conducted in July 2008. Paramedics also were summoned to the house five times since 1999, presumably to help Garrido's 88-year-old mother, who had dementia."

Garrido was required to register as a sex offender because he was convicted in 1977 of kidnapping a 25-year-old woman from parking lot in South Lake Tahoe, the same town Jaycee Dugard lived in when she was snatched from a school bus stop.

"He was convicted of raping the woman multiple times at a Reno storage unit that the investigator from the case described as a "sex palace." It featured various sex aids, sex magazines and videos, stage lights, wine, and a bed, said investigator Dan DeMaranville. "

"18 years of missed chances to find kidnap victim" 8/29/09 SF Chronicle at

Jaxon Van Derbeken, Henry K. Lee,Kevin Fagan, Chronicle Staff Writers

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/29/MNT219F97H.DTL

TWICE A MONTH VISITS BY A PAROLE OFFICER AND NO ACTION:

"But despite that monitoring - including twice monthly visits recently by a state parole officer - Garrido's lair escaped discovery. " AGAIN, NO WARRANT NEEDED TO SEARCH PROPETY OF PAROLED SEX OFFENDER.

LIABILITY OF STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR WHICH THEY CAN BE SUED FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS (THESE LAWSUITS ARE COMMON AND SUCCESSFUL):

"State and federal agencies had the job of watching over him during those years, and local law enforcement had the responsibility to investigate any suspicion of criminal activity."

"The state parole agency took over monitoring Garrido in 1999, Hinkle said. For the previous 11 years, since being released from prison on a forcible rape and kidnapping conviction, Garrido was overseen by federal parole officials."

CODE VIOLATION LIE:

"An unidentified deputy sent out to the house on Walnut Avenue stayed for half an hour, deemed the situation to be a potential code violation and concluded that "there was not any criminal misbehavior," Rupf said." (NO ONE CAN BE THAT STUPID OR LAZY WHEN DEALING WITH A PAROLED SEX OFFENDER.)

"Even a surprise visit to Garrido's home in July 2008 by a multiagency task force, checking up on local sex offenders, turned up no sign of children, Rupf and Antioch police said." THEY DID NOT EVEN BOTHER TO SEARCH HIS ENTIRE PROPERTY. THIS IS NOT STUPIDITY; THIS IS AN INSIDE JOB.

"Ralph Hernandez, a former police officer, said he visited Garrido's home last year and met his wife and a young girl. Although he saw nothing suspicious himself, parole officials should have done more than just look around the inside of the home, he said. " THIS COP MET 2 OBVIOUSLY MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE WITH A YOUNG GIRL. ONE MENTALLY ILL PERSON WAS A PAROLED SEX OFFENDER WHO HAD NO BUSINESS BEING AROUND ANY CHILDREN OR YOUNG WOMEN OR ANY OTHER WOMEN IN HIS HOUSE BESIDES HIS WIFE.

And the New York Daily News story asks the question, why was this rapist paroled after 11 years when he was sentenced to 50 years to life AND HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SENT TO A MENTAL HOSPITAL? See:

Here it is from the New York Daily News, 8/30/09 at

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/08/30/2009-08-30_i_remember_monster_someone_dropped_ball_sez_cop_who_busted_sicko_in_1976_rape_an.html

THIS IS THE ENTIRE POLICE STATE IN THE USA MAKING WAR ON ALL WOMEN. This is not just another sleazy crime story. The heinous crime is too great to be ignored or be considered negligence, but rather it is most likely an inside job. Rapist Garrido must have friends in high places to get paroled after serving 11 years of a 50 to life sentence for rape. The same friends obviously steered the FBI away from looking at the most obvious first place: the list of sex offenders. And the same friends instructed the federal and state parole officers to do absolutely nothing. WE NEED ALL LIGHTS POSSIBLE ON THIS CASE BECAUSE THE LIVES OF THE MAJORITY OF US, NAMELY WOMEN, ARE IN SERIOUS DANGER IN THIS COUNTRY. The political antenna of all of us who support women's liberation and despise the bankrupt social order that exists in the US must be turned toward this story. What we are witnessing is unforgivable and unforgettable and will not go away by ignoring it.



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Comments;

Authorities aided in Jaycees evil

by Justice

( boyerschefsoncall [at] gmail.com ) Tuesday Sep 1st, 2009 6:27 AM

Jaycee did or did not contact the authorities for many reasons. Maybe someone or many people within the local authorities were involved in Jaycees Hell

- They Kidnaps her in 1991 wearing an ankle tracking device

- They Possibly kidnaps Rapes, Injures and Kills many girls and children in the community while wearing an ankle tracking device

- Has a parole officer visit his residence often

- Had perverted parties that which the neighbors witnessed

- The neighbors knew he was a sexual predator

- The neighbors sometimes saw him with young girls

- He was know as Creepy Phil in the neighborhood

- Neighbors called the police about his perverted ways and that people were living in the yard, and a police officer checked it out

- He went to the FBI with the girls to give them information regarding this case

Thank God that I Am not the only one that thinks someone(s) with authority could have been involved in this evil

Comment;

more details

by +

Tuesday Sep 1st, 2009 7:31 AM

One thing that i've been interested in is how the British articles that I've found via News.google seem to present a new set of details that I haven't found in the local TV news coverage or SFGate.

Does this mean that the local papers are being more cautious than the Daily Mail (which is known as a gossipy paper in England), or have they just sent more staff to cover the story, which is digging deeper in finding local testimonials about him and his wife.

For example, while Garrido is known as a tremendous criminal who is suspected of killing several other people, there is a slight implication that she was kept isolated in a room or shed, and even was treated better in the later years along with the sisters. The question arises how this one 'crazy' parolee could have afforded a house, a few cars, and food for five people based on business card printing. Also, was he 'crazy' the whole time, or just in recent years?

This article, unless it's completely false, might answer that question, because it says that he might have been selling drugs and bringing men out to use Jaycee as a prostitute (so many more people would be aware of her presence).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1210151/Garridos-neighbours-reveal-creepy-Phil-drug-fuelled-orgies-hillbillies.html

Comment;

CIA involvement in child kidnapping rings cont's

by Revisit Franklin credit union scandal

Tuesday Sep 1st, 2009 1:27 PM

During the past several decades, child kidnapping rings and organized pedophilia clubs have operated under the watch of federal agencies, and there is always a hint of CIA involvement when it goes international. Basically, people with accumulated power and higher stature in society can get away with it for years before they are caught, and every now and then a lower ranked member like Garrido is exposed to the public as an "isolated" incident..

Some background on Franklin Cover-up;

"Franklin Cover-up

Bonacci's lawyer, John DeCamp, has waged a long, lonely and expensive legal campaign in exposing crimes involving an international pedophile-pornography ring.

In 1991, DeCamp filed a 12-count suit in federal court, charging 16 prominent individuals and institutions, including Lawrence E. King, Omaha World Herald Publisher Harold Andersen and the Omaha Police Department with conspiracy to deprive Paul Bonacci of his civil rights. DeCamp's suit detailed slander, false imprisonment, child abuse, assault, battery and infliction of emotional distress suffered by Bonacci.

The complex case also involved high-level politicians, business leaders, judges and police officials with connections to the drug distribution/money laundering operations known as "Iran"-Contra which goes back to then Vice-President George Bush. DeCamp, a former Nebraska State Senator, even wrote a groundbreaking book about the sordid history of the case called The Franklin Cover-Up: Child Abuse, Satanism and Murder in Nebraska.

(CIA) Monarch Project

The horrendous Monarch Project "refers to young people in America who were victims of mind control experiments run either by U.S. government agencies such as the Central Intelligence Agency or military intelligence agencies," writes DeCamp. "The story told by Monarch victims--one of whom was Paul Bonacci--is that they were tortured for the purpose of creating 'multiple personalities' within them," DeCamp continues from his book. "These multiple personalities could then be programmed--as spies, 'drug mules,' prostitutes or assassins."

"

article continues @;

http://highstrangeness.tv/articles/franklin.php

also see;

http://www.johnnygosch.com/

also see;

http://www.franklincase.org/

John DeCamp is the former Republican senator who first exposed the Franklin cover-up in his book, implicating members of his own political party up to the highest rungs of the Bush Family. The crimes committed by high ranking Republican operatives during the Franklin episodes ranged from rape, kidnapping, murder, drug smuggling and more..





Excerpts from Alex Jones interview with John DeCamp;

"AJ: Because they've found that soldiers, and in Vietnam especially, most people will not fire up-close on somebody and through the video games it trains them to disconnect and do it. And these will be our swat team commanders of the future. And now they've found out that a bunch of swat teams are actually shooting the kids too. So, it's credible. Getting back into “The Franklin Cover-up,” it’s such a huge story. There is so much evidence of it. And a lot of these people actually got convicted – some of the low-level minions.

JD: That’s about right.

AJ: Some of the low-level minions but I mean after writing the book and being out there for many, many years now, what has the effect been? Have they just moved the operation out of Omaha, Nebraska?

JD: I would not say that is completely correct. I believe the operations that they were doing still are occurring. Where all they emanate out of, I don’t know. And I have been very, very reluctant to say anything at all that I didn’t absolutely have a smoking gun and able to prove. Why? Because believe me, when you start tampering with some of the people that we tampered with in this thing, you learn real quick that they have power to do a lot of hurt and damage and threats and things like that. So, I’ve been super cautious. If you ask me, is it stopped now? The answer would be no."

What happened during the Franklin cover-up;

"JD: Well, I have a , I have right here the diary. Do you want me to read a little? Understand that I didn't know that the thing was Bohemian Grove back then, nor did the kid when he was writing it. All he knew was he was taken to this place. Let me just read it. It'll take three minutes. Is that okay?

AJ: Go ahead.

JD: I went in January, now this is Bonacci, this is Paul Bonacci writing this. This is directly word-for-word from his diary.

"I went in January of ‘84 on every trip. I was paid by men King knew for sex. The summer of ‘84 sometime I went to Dallas, Texas and had sex with several men King knew in a hotel. I flew on YNR airlines (by the way that’s a private airline or a private charter deal) and Cam airlines (another private charter deal) normally for King. I never had much personally to do with King only went where he told me to go.

“In or on July 26th, I went to Sacramento, CA. King flew me out on a private plane from an airfield in Omaha to Denver where we picked up Nicholas. A boy who was about 12 or 13, then we flew to Vegas to a desert strip and drove into Las Vegas to some ranch and got something. Then flew on to Sacramento. We were picked up by a white limo and taken to a hotel. I don't remember the name of it. We, meaning Nicholas and I, were driven to an area that had big, big trees. It took about an hour to get there. There was a cage with a boy in it who was not wearing anything. Nicholas and I were given these Tarzan things to put around us and some stuff like that. They told me to, (I won't use the word) blank the boy and stuff. (In other words have sex with him.) At first I said no and they held a gun to my genitals (I'll use that word) and said do it or else lose them or something like that. I began doing it to the boy and stuff. And Nicholas had anal sex and stuff. We were told to blank him and stuff and beat on him. I didn't try to hurt him.

“We were told to put our blanks in his mouth and stuff and sit on the boy’s blank and stuff and they filmed it. We did this stuff to the boy for about 30 minutes or an hour when a man came in and kicked us and stuff in the genitals. And picked us up and threw us. He grabbed the boy and started blanking him and stuff. The man was about (I'm not sure how to say this) the man was about so many inches long and the boy screamed and stuff. The man was forcing his blank into the boy all the way. The boy was bleeding from his rectum and the men tossed me and him and stuff and put the boy right next to me and grabbed a gun and blew the boy's head off. The boy's blood was all over me and I started yelling and crying and the men grabbed Nicholas and I and forced us to lie down. They put the boy on top of Nicholas who was crying and they were putting Nicholas's hands on the boy’s blank. They put the boy on top of me and did the same thing. They then forced me to blank the dead boy. (It gets pretty crude.) They put a gun to our heads to make us do it. His blood was all over us. They made us kiss the boy’s lips. (Anyway, a few other things.) Then they made me do something I don't even want to write so I won't.

“After that the men grabbed Nicholas and drug him off screaming. They put me up against a tree and put a gun to my head but fired into the air. I heard another shot from somewhere and then saw the man who killed the boy drag him like a toy. Everything including when the men put the boy in the trunk was filmed. The men took me with them and we went up in a plane. I saw the bag the boy was in. We went over a very thick brush area with a clearing in it. Over the clearing they dropped the boy. One said the men with the hoods would take care of the body for them.

“I didn't see Nicholas until that night at the hotel. He and I hugged and held each other for a long while. About 2 hours later the men or Larry King came in and told us to go take a shower since we'd had only been hosed off at some guy’s house. We took a shower together and then were told to put on the Tarzan things. And after we were cleaned up and dressed in these things we were told to put on shorts, socks and a shirt and shoes and were driven to a house where the men were at some others. They had the film and they played it. As the men watched it they passed Nicholas and I around as if we were toys…”

"

entire interview @;

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2004/210704johndecamp.htm

To quote DeCamp again;

"If you ask me, is it stopped now? The answer would be no."

Overall the public is powerless to stop the continued episodes of kidnapping, molestation, rape and drug smuggling because the CIA is protecting those who maintain their grip on power indefinitely. Operation Monarch is CIA psychological warfare on minors and mentally unstable individuals attempting to influence their behavior in the worst way. The Garrido personality cult shows long term effects of what this CIA program can do, in effect stealing the free will of Jaycee Dugard at a young age and preventing her from leaving her captor..

Without making baseless claims that no individual child molesters exist and that everything is CIA controlled, it needs to be stated that organized pedophilia and drug smuggling rings are far more common than individual cases, even if our corporate media attempts to discredit ANY organized child kidnapping rings and paints each incident as "lone nutcases" acting out on their own free will..

When CIA's Project Monarch backfires;

Needless to say, every project attempted by the CIA will have certain rates of failure, not every psychologically tampered with youth will show the predicted results. My personal theory is that the CIA lines up thousands of teenagers every year to fit their profile of either school shooters or sex-slaves or drug smugglers, depending on each personality type. Not every one of these youths will function as the CIA desires, so they either suffer from fatal "accidents" or are set adrift in the mental health system where nothing they can say will ever be taken seriously, thus reducing the threat of them exposing their CIA mentors..

What we are now seeing with the Garrido personality kidnapping cult is only the tip of the iceberg, this international pedophilia ring continues to expand in power and influence, and very few people like DeCamp exist to expose this to the pubic..

BTW; This isn't about race, sex or religion, ANY group of persons involved will attempt to frame their reasons for this insane behavior, though it crosses the race, sex and religion lines as many people in the status quo are involved. This would be like comparing GW Bush to Martin Luther King Jr. as both claimed to be Christians, one must take into account the ACTIONS, not the WORDS of those making this claim!!





Comment;

CIA pedophilia rings meets Taliban justice

by Some positive aspects of vigilantism

Tuesday Sep 1st, 2009 2:21 PM

This thread continues to draw in more connections, when dealing with current CIA torture trials of Al Queda and Taliban operatives, we need to question who we are fighting and why;

"America's media repeatedly claimed that Afghan women would be better off under the U.S.-supported Northern Alliance puppet government headed by Karzai than under the Taliban. But when I went to Afghanistan and asked women what they thought, they had a different story. The defeat of the Taliban brought about the collapse of law and order, making life even more dangerous, especially for women. "Under the Taliban," a woman told me, "I watched rapists being executed. Now I see them in the government."

"

entire article found @;

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/21682

Fairness in justice is a needed component, and the Afghan government under Mullah Karzai was anything but fair, granting favors to his fellow tribal warlords who were enabled by Karzai to rape women and children with no interference from corrupt police. At least the Taliban public executions were fair and not based upon tribal favoritism..

What the CIA pedophilia and kidnapping rings are getting away with today would not occur under Taliban law. We may object to other impositions against women under the Taliban, though when dealing with rapists and child molesters the Taliban's justice was swift, fair and certain. This opens the discussion to potentials for vigilante response to child molesters and rapists here in the U.S.

Under vigilante response monitored by the Taliban, the victim's party is enabled to balance the scales themselves. All this occurs after a fair trail where all evidence is presented and the Taliban decrees that the offending party is responsible and can therefore be held in judgement by the victim's party..

"For the first time since losing power in December 2001, the Taliban has publicly executed a convicted murderer. Speaking from an undisclosed location, a Taliban spokesman told ABC News that the condemned murderer was executed in the presence of a large number of people in the town of Gizab in the Urozgan province. The prisoner was killed by gunshots fired by a relative of his victim.

The heirs of the victim had refused to forgive the man, Badshah Khan, or accept blood-money despite repeated requests from the family of the convicted murderer. "The members of the Shariah court then gave the go-ahead signal to the heirs of Fateh Khan to exercise their Islamic right of Qissas and execute Badshah Khan," the spokesman explained.

The spokesman said the execution shows the level of Taliban control in Urozgan. There the Taliban has the power to arrest and try criminals and publicly implement decisions of its Shariah courts."

article found @;

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/05/taliban_justice.html

Though i remain an environmentalist, i have long since parted ways with the "left" when it comes to justice and death sentences for rapists and child molesters, assuming there is 100% certainty of the crime. In other words, we should not execute people based upon rumors, hearsay and false accusations, which there are many of also. This complicates the scenario, as mistakes and false charges are often recanted later on, and this is ineffective if the person has already been executed. Many false charges and executions of people later found to be innocent occured under the U.S. system of justice, showing their ineffectiveness at catching the real criminals and often killing innocent people either mistakenly identified or falsely accused. We're dealing with our own Karzai-esque politicians here in the U.S. that perpretrate pedophilia rings themselves..

It seems to me that the U.S. government is not capable of enforcing the law in a fair and just manner, and therefore individuals and family members of victims who have 100% certainty of perpretrators will need to take matters into their own hands. Since the family members of victims are not used to guns and violence in general, and are often outmatched by their perpretrators, a vigilante group similar to the Taliban would be needed here to help in balancing the scales of justice..

That leaves the choice of punishment up to the victims and their family, without state interference. Anyone caught making false accusations should be treated the same way, that would discourage people from causing needless executions of innocent people. There is no hope for child molesters, the only solution is a "mercy killing" to remove their physical being from the Earth so that they cannot commit further crimes against innocent children..

Think not about revenge, it is also to end the suffering of the tortured souls of the child molester's themselves, that is what they are calling for by their own behavior; "Look at how sick i am to do this to a child! Will somebody please kill me already?!"

Allow me to extend an invitation to the Taliban to attempt to solve this CIA pedophilia ring with their own brand of justice. The CIA are their mortal enemies in Afghanistan who subjected Taliban members to illegal torture, now is the time for retribution and public execution of CIA child kidnappers right here in the U.S.!!

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