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by wg2k1
Wednesday, Aug. 12, 2009 at 10:28 PM
A summary of what I saw in Alhambra. Little political content, fyi.
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I spent only a short time at the event, but it was incredibly well
attended, by people on both sides of the issue. It was
attended by around 700 to 1000 people. They moved it from a
conference room to an outdoor knoll between City Hall and the High
School.
People were vocal, but, they were not combative (too much).
The "sides" were not clustered against each other, but intermingled
within the crowd. The crowd was not as rowdy as it sounds in
the video, because people
did go silent at times, but it was definitely not a polite
crowd. The
right-wingers were particularly crude with their cussing.
Some people got into debates and discussions.
This is reminiscent of other heated political events that have happened
in Alhambra, and that I've experienced. One group has a
demonstration, and a counter-organizing effort brings
opponents. They yell support for their own side, but
individuals and small clusters of people also talk to each other.
Though people are politically polarized, many want to engage discussion
as well. This is something that's rarely acknowledged in the
press, but it's been happening a lot.
The moderates and liberals pulled out the "shhh be quiet and polite
card" (figuratively and literally), and were pretty sedate.
The crowd was about evenly pro/anti reform, maybe tipping a little more
to the pro side. The HR 676 folks made only a small showing,
and that was too bad because a larger contingent of single-payer
advocates would have helped the "public option" supporters.
The victory goes to the pro-reform side, because this was a last-minute
mobilization and they got little press. The anti-reform side
had a longer lead time and got more press from the Pasadena Star
News.
Another winner in this was Adam Schiff, who is a centrist Blue Dog,
pro-defense, pro-war, pro-business guy. He's practically a
Republican. He's locked in some progressive votes with this
event. The reform side also won, by keeping Schiff in the
reform camp. Imagine what would happen if no liberals showed
up!
Logistically, the cops and the city, and Schiff's office did a good
job. They moved the meeting outside so everyone could get in.
Being indoors in a small room would have sucked.
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A very good post from
Craigslist
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/pol/1318749085.html
Date: 2009-08-11, 9:25PM PDT
Reply to: comm-ztkd8-1318749085@craigslist.org
Summary: About 1,000 attendees (media personnel, add another 40)
Make Up of Attendees: 50%=Obama Supporters, 40% Visibly Shaken
Conservatives, 7% Undecided, 3%=Single Payer Supporters(Medicare for
All)
Alhambra Police presence was low(~50 officers) and impatient; they
walked out one handicap young man(~age 25) who interrupted at start of
Meeting by yelling out mixed right-wing rhetoric(I hope he was paid,
b/c he was dressed badly).
Media was reserved and they interviewed people mostly angry w/the Obama
Reform(s) for Health Care. Low Union turnout; college students low in
turnout; Senior Citizens Turnout was great! They are the most relevant
crowd tonight! And finally, Adam Schiff WILL NOT oppose Health Care
Reform(s) by Brand Obama.
And sadly, Single Payer Action activists were nearly invisible, as Dr.
Bruce Hensel described an invisible patient he, "couldn't see in his
office" at the start of the night.
29th District Organize!
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LA Times Blog
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/...health-care.html
Pasadena Patriot - a
right-wing anti-reform group
http://pasadenasubrosa.typepad.com...apparatchiks-.html
The so-called Health
Care "Town Hall" sponsored by Congressman Adam Schiff apparently is not
a town hall at all - it is a discussion among selected health care
policy wonks, all of them on one side of the issue and with ties to the
Democratic Party.
[Actually, this event was like a reverse town hall - a campaign
event. It's similar to what Bush did to promote Social
Security Reform (aka, Repeal). The difference was, at those
meetings, he failed.]
After the meeting:
http://pasadenasubrosa.typepad.com/...agitprop-townhall.html
[A strange post, but, my two real quarrels with it is that there were
not 4,000+ people there, and I think that preventative care and a
better diet to help avoid a heart attack is a good thing.]
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by wg2k1
Wednesday, Aug. 12, 2009 at 10:29 PM
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They're hijacking the term "mutual aid"!
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by wg2k1
Wednesday, Aug. 12, 2009 at 10:29 PM
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WTF is this about? Did you confer with Mr. "Repeal Medicare" to come up with this sign?
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by wg2k1
Wednesday, Aug. 12, 2009 at 10:29 PM
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The O-man says you're on point sir.
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KABC Coverage |
wg2k1 |
Thursday, Aug. 13, 2009 at 12:04 AM |
What's Really Going On, and What's Being Obscured |
wg2k1 |
Thursday, Aug. 13, 2009 at 7:56 AM |
From LAAMN List |
repost (orig. Arch Miller) |
Thursday, Aug. 13, 2009 at 9:02 AM |
Link to Good Article on Black Agenda Report |
wg2k1 |
Thursday, Aug. 13, 2009 at 5:53 PM |
SINGLE-PAYER NOW |
Marcus |
Friday, Aug. 14, 2009 at 3:11 PM |
I Disagree - the Media Are There |
wg2k1 |
Friday, Aug. 14, 2009 at 4:48 PM |
Why Aren't Progressives Disrupting ObamaCare Town Halls? |
By DAVE LINDORFF |
Friday, Aug. 14, 2009 at 5:19 PM |
I disagree with Lindorf |
wg2k1 |
Friday, Aug. 14, 2009 at 10:45 PM |
wHO DO THOSE NOISEY CONSERVATIVES THINK THEY ARE, CODE PINK? |
Roger Young |
Wednesday, Aug. 19, 2009 at 12:01 PM |
LOL. Nazi Health Care. |
Fredric L. Rice |
Thursday, Aug. 20, 2009 at 5:30 AM |
Sorry Fredric |
Roger |
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