Who is David Irving?

David Irving is a British writer of histories who has been involved with the fascist political scene since the 1960s. Always known for the pro-Hitler bias of his books, approximately two decades ago Irving made the transition to being a fully-fledged Holocaust-denier, when he testified at the trial of neo-Nazi Ernst Zündel in Canada, and also arranged the publication of Fred Leuchter’s widely-refuted report on gas chambers at Auschwitz. In addition to spreading blatant historical lies, Irving has publicly stated that “The Jews are the architects of their own misfortune”. Unsurprisingly, Irving has been an extremely popular speaker at neo-Nazi rallies in Germany.

In the British libel case Irving v. Penguin Books and Lipstadt, the final ruling in favor of the defendants confirmed that Irving “is an active Holocaust denier” and that “he is anti-Semitic and racist and that he associates with right-wing extremists who promote neo-Nazism.” In 2006, Irving was jailed in Austria after pleading guilty to a charge of “trivializing the Holocaust”, which is a crime in that county. Since his release, Irving has been marketing himself as a former “political prisoner”.

Why Oppose These Events?

Irving’s current tour focuses on “"Re-writing history, using the decoded Nazi messages" (see: http://www. focal. org/speaks/index.html). The re-writing of Third Reich history—especially in relation to the Nazi “Final Solution” for Europe’s Jewish population—is a major preoccupation for modern neo-Nazis and neo-fascists, who correctly believe that memory of the Holocaust is a significant barrier to the mainstreaming of their beliefs. The Holocaust is denied so that, paradoxically, it can be repeated. Wherever Irving appears, he is backed and promoted by virulent anti-Semites and fascist organizers.

Irving’s bogus history is both blatantly offensive and incorrect. However, we oppose Irving not for what he thinks, but rather for what he does. As the name of his own publishing project suggests, Irving serves as a “focal point” to bring Jew-haters and goose-steppers together. He is part of a political tendency that is actively organizing for ethnic and racial hostilities, and in particular to persecute Jewish people. (James von Brunn’s murder of a security guard at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum is one recent example of where this anti-Semitic and neo-Nazi tendency can lead. Von Brunn moved within many of the same circles that promote Irving’s work.)

We believe that fascist activism and movement-building should meet with organized resistance. As the Anti-Racist Action Network states in its Points of Unity:

“Whenever fascists are organizing or active in public, we're there. We don't believe in ignoring them or staying away from them. Never let the nazis have the street!”

We invite you to help this effort along, by organizing in your own community.

When and Where?

At present, the dates for Irving’s speaking tour are as follows:

July 3 Friday: Kansas City, 19:00
July 6 Monday: Oklahoma City, 19:00
July 8 Wednesday: Albuquerque, 19:00
July 10 Friday: Phoenix, 19:00
July 12 Sunday: Las Vegas, buffet, 19:00
July 13 Monday: Salt Lake City, buffet, 19:00
July 15 Wednesday: Boise, buffet, 19:00
July 16 Thursday: Spokane, buffet, 19:00
July 18 Saturday: Seattle 15:00
July 19 Sunday: Portland, OR, buffet, 15:00
July 22 Wednesday: Sacramento, buffet,18:30
July 23 Thursday: San Francisco, buffet 18:30
July 25 Saturday: Costa Mesa, 18:30
July 26 Sunday: Sherman Oaks, 15:00
July 29 Wednesday: Denver, 19:00
July 30 Thursday: Omaha, 19:00
July 31 Friday: Chicago incl. de luxe dinner, 19:00

The exact location of Irving’s talk in each city has not been made public, due to Irving’s fear of encountering the opposition he so richly deserves. Any determined group of individuals ought to be able to pinpoint the event location in their city, however. Many of these events are probably booked under false pretexts, and venue owners may not necessarily know who they are hosting.

Further dates may be added (or subtracted!) as the tour progresses. Irving also plans to speak on the East Coast later this year, although dates have not been announced for this yet. Let’s set the tone for the East Coast wing of Irving’s tour right now!

No platform for fascists, no compromise!

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You just need one look at his website - he's got a lot of hate for Jews. He's a BNP fascist.

Add it up - he's not just against Jews, but any people of color within the old dominion. I'm sure fascists like Prion Teabag Party will line up to kiss his testes.

Like the professional Nazi-apologist David Irving, PrionPartyy is one of those guys who goes around saying "there's no proof of gas chambers."

They'd get along great.

It was so bizarre, so breathtakingly stupid, that they shipped it to the Smithsonian.

Just imagine, if LA indymedia actually enforced its own rules against racism. PrionPartyy would be goosestepping somewhere else in a hurry.

No shit, you poor antisemitic fuckwad, you're really trying to push Fred Leuchter? Even the professional Holocaust deniers like David Irving -- who published Leuchter's horseshit in the UK -- are too embarrassed by his obvious idiocies to bring him up any more.

Why don't you do us all a favor and flush yourself down a toilet, ya dumbass bigot.

How about giving Prion Partyy a lethal injection?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_A._Leuchter#cite_ref-12

How typical that this board is used by bigoted leftists to recruit thugs to violate the free speech activities of others, to wit, enforcing a gag rule on an author whose books most of you most certainly never read.

You seek to use physical force to enforce rigid conformity with the official version of history, just like in the old USSR.

Hey editors. What if someone were to come to LA IMC and say something like: How about giving an abortion doctor a lethal injection?

Would you have called the police by now?

And what if you didn't call the cops and some abortion doctor in LA got murdered?

That poster is pushing the idea that people who expose holocaust lies should be murdered. What if Irving gets murdered in Sacramento by someone who got his itinerary from LA IMC? Do you think you would be facing criminal charges for failing to call the cops?

That poster being arrested sure would bring exposure to this thread and the holocaust lies that have been forcved on Americans for decades.

Once again PrionPartyy proves what a pathetic mental cripple that it is. Anyone else would understand that the reference to Leuchter was an engineer poseur, a faker.

If the mental cripple would follow the link it.... no, never mind. Someone so breathtakingly stupid wouldn't make the connection.

We've got a couple of Holocaust deniers posting in this thread.

Is LA Indymedia just fine hosting Holocaust denial?

Let's see - so Leuchter is a fraud, but you can't attack a fraud's report?

PrionPartyy needs to be euthanized. It's cruel and unusual to allow such fantastically stupid fecal matter to breathe our air.

Hey, genius. Here's a simple one.

Leuchter's bullshit report says that the cyanide gas was an explosion hazard. What he doesn't mention is that it only starts to be an explosion hazard when it's much, much more concentrated than the way it was used in the gas chambers.

Even David Irving says that Leuchter's report is full of shit.

But if you think that Leuchter's report hasn't been thoroughly shredded over and over again in its collision with the facts, then you don't know the slightest thing about his report.

1st of all, he was charged with misrepresenting himself, never convicted. Prosecutors don't make deals when they have strong cases. Prosectors make deals when they have weak or non-existant cases. The allegations of fraud that were leveled against him because he dared to refuse to bow down to your idolotry fell to pieces.

But clearly, you worship the god of allegation, and to hell with any reality that stands in your way.

And defendants do make deals when they don't want to suffer the expenses of defending themselves from frivolous lawsuits.

"practicing engineering without a licence". Hmmmm, now where does the fraud come into play? I don't see it. You obviously see what you wish. And it shows.

Sure, you can attack a fraud's report. You can even attack a report writen by someone who has never been convicted of fraud. But that is not what we have seen from you, is it???? You have not even bothered to attack the report. you suggest that a failed charge of misperpresenting himself as an engineer denigrates the report.

Nope, you suggest that because he was charged with fraud in a case than prosecutors felt they had no chance of winning that his being charged with fraud makes the report less legitimate. You FAILED to attack the report. You didn't even try. Maybe you can find someone who isn't smoking on a crack pipe to explain that to you.

ALLEGEDLY used in the ALLEGED gas chambers

Yep, I should check out that tiny piece of the report again.

But I am no engineer either. Where my talent shines is when I read the peer evaluations and pick up on the misleading arguments that are used against him. Public relations is my BA degree. And I am very good at seeing how some people try to confuse the issue. Just look above about how I pointed out IN THE KNOW never even tried to attack the report. It really is easy to trash posts that are a load of dung to begin with.

"to breath our air"

OUR air???

Would you care to explain that one?

And there is another one of my posts that was removed.

I had writen about how people who push the holocaust allegations say the NAZIs were killing so many prisoners that the smoke from the crematoria never stopped billowing out. But that dozens of allied air recon photos showed no smoke. And that was one of the holocasut lies that is undeniably a fabrication intentionaly told to mislead people.

I had also writen that we were showed video and photos of people who died in the camps and that we were told that the NAZIs had murdered them. But qualified US ARMY pathologists had examined the corpses of dead prisoners and found that the cause of their deaths were from typhus. Again another holocaust lie gets exposed as pure fabrication intentionaly told to mislead people.

This is what editors removed. Would you care to tell us why?

The mental defective just doesn't get it. It thinks the indymedia is for open publishing, when it's as heavily censored as any site that exists.

Perhaps this will explain?

http://cleveland.indymedia.org/news/2009/06/45264_comment.php#46545

"there best is the worst
by PPyy Sunday, Jul. 12, 2009 at 10:42 AM

I respect my Palestinian neighbor's basic human right not to be destroyed by murderous thieving Zionist crusaders.

I also respect my Palestinian neighbor's basic human right to defend themselves from the murderous thieving Zionist crusaders.

Defending one's self includes 2 options, fight or flight. If a tiny fraction of a percent of Palestinians (something like .0000032%) defend themselves (fight) in ways you don't like (what you and others call terrorism) , they are still defending themselves. I sure as hell don't consider it my place to be judgeing others for how they choose to defend themselves from murderous thieving Zionist crusaders. I will still respect my Palestinian neighbor's basic human right of self defense even if you judge (which makes you the wanna be god) the tiny fraction of a percent of Palestinians as defending themselves in ways you do not approve of.

Something is odd, feel like I'm God...

That is a line from a song by The Offspring on the CD SMASH called Bad Habit. It is a song about road rage."

Hey, we can't be judgmental against those who kill children on school buses, right? But we can be judgmental against da Jooooooooooooooos!

I am not going to be judgemental against people defending themselves and acting under the extream durres of foreign invadors destroying their lives and lifes. That brings up extenuating circomstance which is a part of a real court of law, often left out of the court of public opinion which can be manipulated by media, education, etc. Would a tiny fraction of Palestinians be blowing themselves up to kill murderous thieving Zionist crusaders if the murderous thieving Zionist crusaders were murderous thieves occupying Costa Rican lands? I couldn't see that happening. Clearly it is the Zionist crusaders chosen murderous theft of Palestinian lands that is the cause of the hostilities.

Zionist crusaders are more than just "Jooooooooooooooos", as you put it. Zionist crusaders are murderous thieves occupying the Palestinian's homeland. And that is an offensive act of war which Zionists have chosen to take against their chosen Palestinian victims. NAZIs didn't much like their cities being bombed either. And what does the world generaly think of that . Too fukin bad Geeeeeeeeeeeeeermans. Looks like starting a war wasn't such a hot shit idea after all.

It is easy to be judgemental of people who are being offensive in their actions. Justice demands it. As do many religions (Lev 5:1). But being judgemental of people acting under the extream durres of murderous thieves destroying their lives and lifes, not so easy. In fact, impossible for some of us.

But you go ahead and keep pushing the notion that people are judging the murderous thieving Zionist crusaders because the Zionist crusaders are "Jooooooooooooooos", as you put it. After all, since crap is all you got, crap is all we will ever see from you.

"I am not going to be judgemental against people defending themselves"

Except for da Jooooooooos!

I'm not a Nazi, but that doesn't mean it's not true.

Zionists are not defending themselves. Zionists are occupying the Palestinian's homeland and stealing more and more every day, which is an offensive state of war that the Zionist's have chosen for themselves and their chosen victims. Duh.

You quoted only half of that sentence. Any reason way??? What, did I misspell duress? Or are you a mental defective? Well, you prejudicialy confuse the Zionist's murderous theft of Palestinian lands with defending themselves. So my money is on you being a mental defective. Probably why you feel some need to tell us you are not.

On D - Day, the NAZIs on the coast of Normandy France were "defending themselves".

Sounds kind of stupid, doesn't it. Ohhh, just leave out the part that NAZIs were occupying the French people's homeland.

One big differance between NAZI occupation of France and Zionist occupation of the Palestinian people's homeland is that France declaired war on Germany and Zionists chose to become murderous thieves of Palestinian lands.

Another big differance is that NAZI soldiers occupied France while Zionist occupation includes not only military forces but is joined by Zionist civilians driving the Palestinians from their homes and farms and orchards and hotels and restrurants and tourist shops etc etc to feast off the mysery of the vanquished Palestinians. Which is the more offensive state of war? NAZI soldiers occupying France or Zionist civilians actualy destroying the Palestinian's lives?

Would you rather have a foreign military ruling your homeland or a foreign military helping their civilians drive you into the wilderness? Pretty simple answer there. That is why the Zionist civilian's occupation of Palestinian lands is actualy an even greater offense than Zionist military ruling Palestinian lands.

Now the hypocritical terrorist fellator is being judgmental.

"hypocritical"? Me??? I don't see it.

Can you point the alleged hypocracy out to us? OR is this just another vacant allegation which would be par for the corse for people who worship the idolotry of allegation.

A breathtakingly stupid terrorist fellator never saw anything except Arafat's crotch.

Anyone who opposes Zionism and the Fascist Agenda of Israel is in my book a Liberator and a Saviour in this Zionist Owned-American Media Oppressed world of ours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Costa Mesa on Saturday and Sherman Oaks on Sunday.

If you are going to be voting for Democraps and Republitrash who sell out your fellow American's peace by supplying the murderous thieving Zionists crusaders with the means to destroy your Palestinian neighbor's lives and lifes, then I, and maybe even YOU think or at least feel that you have a duty to find out the truth.

OR maybe you don't even care if you sell out your fellow American's peace or how much Palestinian blood is staining your hands.

Let's get back to how we can shut down David Irving's meetings tomorrow and Sunday, and stop debating Nazi scum trolls. And let's stop sounding like Nazis in these inane debates, using anti-gay and anti-disabled insults.

Our existence is not debatable. No platform for Nazis, even on Indymedia.

Now let's see what do we already know? Irving will be speaking at a (so far secret) hotel in orange County on Saturday, along with the Mark Weber, head honcho of the Institute for Historical Revue. This event is sponsored by the institute for Historical Revue, a neo-nazi holocaust denier group.

A funny note: On the IHR website advertising this event it says "No T-shirts". Odd for a summer event in Southern California.