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WTC Demolition?

by curious george Saturday, Aug. 02, 2008 at 12:22 AM

Who is "Gretavo Verdadero"?

Gretavo Verdadero is owner of the website wtcdemolition.com. The website appears to be one of those fake 911 truth websites intended to paint all 911 truth websites as kooky in the way that sending a smelly unwashed government agent into a crowd of real anarchists gives the impression that anarchists are smelly I've seen posts by this "Gretavo" character on various 911 forums. The main push of his participation seems to be to paint everyone else as a fake 911 truther, which is consistent with the starting assumption of this post.

I began to wonder, just who is this "Gretavo Verdadero"? I found strange videos by Gretavo on Youtube. I found posts by people saying he was smearing them online. Finally, I discovered that "Gretavo Verdadero" has a real name and that name is Gustavo Espada, some person working at Harvard University in IT.

A search on Espada yields an accusation that he is a CIA agent. A little more digging reveals statements he has made online that he grew up on U.S. Embassies in Latin America. Most interesting of all is a statement on his website. If you visit his website, there is a link with the text: "A note to U.S. servicemen and women an other federal agents"

I was kind of curious about why a 911 truther would be posting a note to federal agents, so I checked out that link. It goes to this page: http://wtcdemolition.com/note.htm

On this page, a strange page, is an image that contains text. Now, if you put text in an image, Google won't index it. Near the bottom of the text is the sentence: "The author of this site is an American citizen who has served his country as you now do, and whose sole interest is to preserve our liberty in a time of great danger and deception..."

I don't know about you, but I find this statement very interesting. Specifically this: Espada claims to be someone who has served his county as one of the following, by virtue of the addressees of the link: a U.S. Serviceman or a Federal Agent. Now, I've found no information claiming that he has ever been a U.S. Serviceman, so this leaves "Federal Agent." Interesting?
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Just a conman, not an agent

by anon Friday, Dec. 02, 2016 at 9:21 AM

Gustavo Espada aka gretavo isn't a CIA agent. He IS a political conman, of some years standing. His only interest in entangling anarchists and peace activists in 9/11 "truth" is to build a fake grassroots movement for the Ron Paul alt-right. What he gets out of it, no one knows.

But people do know he doesn't like people knowing he was a member of Jim Fetzer's Scholars for 9/11 Truth organization:

http://www.lowellsun.com/front/ci_4173789

"Lacking a smoking gun to make their argument, Scholars for 9/11 Truth members point to a list of reasons they say proves their point when taken together.

"It's sort of a cumulative effect," said Gustavo Espada, 31, of Somerville, a member and graduate of Harvard, where he works in information technology. "I don't think anybody has a 100 percent view of what actually did happen on 9/11."

Espada spends about 10 hours a week handing out literature, Web logging and talking with people on the street about his views on 9/11. A 90-minute symposium organized by Scholars for Truth was also broadcast on C-SPAN last month."

Or that his website was host to all sorts of sleazy content if you look in the wayback machine:

http://web.archive.org/web/20060625225955/http://wtcdemolition.com/

Including some out there delusional attacks of people as "traitors":

http://web.archive.org/web/20071016205952/http://wtcdemolition.com/traitorkos.html

The bad photoshops are not for the faint of heart.

Espada is also a Holocaust Denier, claiming Zyklon B couldn't have been used to kill people and being a fan boi of the fraud David Cole(Real Truther is another nom of Espada's):

http://911blogger.com/news/2007-02-02/alternet-revisits-911-article-sander-hicks#comment-113477

"Well misterguy, I'm glad you believe in free speech. In theory anyway--you seem quite keen on using every non-legal method of discouraging discussion in this case. Let's start here, for example. The gas chambers. You assure me and everyone else that the Nazis used gas chambers to kill large numbers of people (presumably Jewish and otherwise). I have watched a documentary made by David Cole, who is Jewish, that raised valid questions about the "gas chamber" at Auschwitz. Now before you get all upset for my putting that in quotation marks, you have to at least acknowledge a few things that you would know if you watched David's film of his tour of Auschwitz. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9176742040462080597&q=david+cole...

The gas chamber at Auschwitz appears to be a large room with holes at the top which are said to be for throwing in the zyklon-b pellets (not a fake shower, by the way, that also seems to be legend) The first tour guide David speaks to tells him that this is the gas chamber in its original state. David notices some mrkings on the floor where there seem to have been walls at one point. She insists this is in the original state, including the holes in the ceiling."

Espada was interviewed by Kevin Barrett, a "truther" who supported White Supremacist Merlin Miller for president in 2012:

http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.com/2013/03/mark-weber-merlin-miller-report-on-trip.html

The interview, which included Espada's batshit delusional co owner/moderator of his forum, was deleted but could be found here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20080802001358/http://www.barrettforcongress.us/lamadrid.htm

The comments show this person is either as much of a conartist as Espada is or a brain dead millennial imbecile:

" Subject: Re: Bio information for Friday show

Date: July 23, 2008 1:48:21 PM CDT

Sure, post away -- I did notice a typo in there somewhere -- if you could proof-read it that would be appreciated.

I agree that your more nuanced take on the "fake consensus" is more correct. My analysis is based on reading that site intensively for the last 2+ years and following certain posters as they attempt to channel the discourse in a particular direction. Jon Gold is the prime example, and he has been increasingly strident both in refusing to accept the overwhelming evidence for CD (actually ED but that's not a good abbreviation at all) and in deriding and dismissing those of us who do. He was the person who came up with the whole idiotic "church of controlled demolition" meme, which tries to frame us a cultists. It's very true that the site still supports the Architects and Dr. Jones, but it had also prohibited me and others from responding to any of Jon's posts (as in, did not publish them) for a good 6 months before the banning. I would argue that this in fact IS an attempt to control dissent. Anyway, that's a complicated argument to make and I'm typing with my thumbs.

As for David Cole, he produced a very interesting video of his experience touring Auschwitz -- I'm away from my computer but maybe RT/gretavo can send you the link. He's a very courageous Jewish guy who was quite young when he made it and subsequently received death threats from the JDL and "recanted" -- chalking his mistake up to being a self-hating Jew. "

In the real world, everyone knows David Cole is a sleazeball, as are the conspiracy clowns this chick worships. The entire "controlled demolition" so called theory was based on a fraudulent peer review paper published in a vanity press.

So, yeah, Gustavo Espada is a kook, but he knows he's a kook pushing a fraud. Hard to tell if he started out as a liar or if his involvement with this Sara chick pushed him over the edge. She makes him look even more cray cray than he is. The weird thing? The current site is virtually dead, but he keeps paying for it. It's registered through February of 2017:

Domain Name: WTCDEMOLITION.COM
Registry Domain ID: 338410932_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Update Date: 2015-02-11T17:22:36Z
Creation Date: 2006-02-08T00:30:12Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-02-08T00:30:12Z

Guess he's got money from his rich family to burn.

Like dude, it's over. No one is buying this swill anymore.
Anyone conned by Espada should just contact the FBI or Harvard, where he works. Shut his shit down.


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