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by el la mira
Tuesday, Sep. 04, 2007 at 6:18 AM
Save Our State, and now No More Invasion, always cry that they are the victims, but the facts tell us otherwise.(Photo is of SOS member Sam Ziselman)
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On Sunday, September 2nd, members of Save Our State and No More Invasion attacked 2 different workers at the HomeDepot in Van Nuys, Ca. According to posts on nomoreinvasion.com, Don Silva and Sam Ziselman (who are both Save Our State members) claim to have video evidence showing they were attacked first. However, when I viewed all the video posted by Save Our State and No More Invasion I did not see any such proof. Also, when the LAPD showed up on the scene the HomeDepot security told them that the nativists were the perpetrators of the violence. Here is the link to the only video that shows part of what happened. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ9krCx9CMo
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ9krCx9CMo
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by Rick
Tuesday, Sep. 04, 2007 at 7:50 AM
What's new? These bigots continue to harrass day laborers by shouting obsenities at them, calling them disgusting names, shoving cameras in their faces, to name a few. If anyone shows discontent with their actions, they are met with pepper spray, a cowardly act in itself. Dont these idiots have anything better to do on a weekend than harrass day laborers outside of a Home Depot?
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by Jammer CC
Tuesday, Sep. 04, 2007 at 4:33 PM
Looks like the Minutemen like vandalism too. http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=4620 Here two people are supportive of the guy who damaged a check out stand. According to the Minutemen, any indication of the Spanish language is an invasion.
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by Jammer CC
Tuesday, Sep. 04, 2007 at 4:58 PM
There's the derogatory comments again, as if that's what day labor workers did all day. If the Minutemen had no choice but to work like that, they'd be worse. They wouldn't last a week because they are consumers, not survivors.
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by Jammer CC
Tuesday, Sep. 04, 2007 at 6:20 PM
No they are not survivors. One little mishap and they can hop in their SUV's and head home. The true survivors are those who traveled here by foot to come here to work, not to bring drugs or whatever. Yet the Minutemen want people to think that about all of them. The minutemen know nothing about real survival.
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by Jammer CC
Tuesday, Sep. 04, 2007 at 8:17 PM
What do you mean? There are reasonable posts here. I didn't claim that no day labor workers have engaged in alcoholism or urination in public(because of lack of restroom facilities). I'm saying that the Minutemen/SOS would have people think of that first thing whenever they think of day labor workers. They want the American public to be scared of people coming across the border, even if a small fraction are the actual drug runners. That's why they are always trying to scare people saying the same things over and over again. I'm sure there are tons of people who want to take on the drug problem, but are still waiting and waiting for the Minutemen to grow up and step aside because they don't want to be part of that stigma in the public eye.
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by Little Bunny Foo Foo
Tuesday, Sep. 04, 2007 at 8:53 PM
Sorry Jammer, I have no Idea what you are trying to say....
Im not trying to be sarcastic.... Its just that the last sentence of your last post post did not come through very clearly.
---I'm sure there are tons of people who want to take on the drug problem, but are still waiting and waiting for the Minutemen to grow up and step aside because they don't want to be part of that stigma in the public eye.---
Sorry, I have no idea what your point is.......
But alas, as I said you have lost all credibility
---They want the American public to be scared of people coming across the border, even if a small fraction are the actual drug runners---
So what is an acceptable amount of drug runners?
What is an acceptable amount of murderers?
What is an acceptable amount of rapists?
What is an acceptable amount of pediphiles?
What is an acceptable amount of terrorists?
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by Jammer CC
Tuesday, Sep. 04, 2007 at 9:15 PM
What I mean is no one can do anything publicly relating to this issue without the Minutemen coming over trying to kiss their asses and trying to get them on their sides. Tan Nguyen spoke at a CCIR meeting and Gilchrist then ran onto the stage to get pictures with him. I told Tan about the Nazis in the Gilchrist campaign. He tried to contact me but we weren't able to speak in person. Things were busy I guess but you don't see him affiliating with the Minutemen as far as I can.
Whenever someone's kid dies related in some way to the issue, people like Chelene Nightingale and others from SOS rush to them and she does the crying act to exploit their tragedy.
I tried to explain to the guy who beat Gilchrist, John Campbell at a meet and greet. He blew me off and verbally supported the Minutemen. The Minuteman members there on hand cheered because they were tools. Later on Campbell passed some legislation or did something that was counter to his apparent support for the Minutemen. Campbell is a douche bag, forget him whichever side you're on.
If someone wants to take action related to this issue, they may get the Minutemen coming over and pulling them to their side. If they object, they're call unpatriotic.
How about the feds put a stop to their border schemes and take away their firearms, all of them. They have more than enough reasons and motives to do it. Same with the Ranch Rescue people and whoever else is doing it. And finally keep them away from day labor workers the same way a city may get rid of bad gang activity. They bring hostility to the streets, same thing.
Then finally maybe, just maybe some more reasonable people with more reasonable ideas can come forward and not have to worry about being branded a Minuteman.
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by Jammer CC
Tuesday, Sep. 04, 2007 at 9:18 PM
And I wasn't trying to side with Campbell btw. This was more than a year after the Congress election and I was trying to tell him about "Lil Dog," the active Minuteman who has admitted to murder earlier in his life and, as Jim Chase has explained, has been doing drugs on border watch and spoke about killing drug smugglers(who I'm sure supports Ramos and Campeon).
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by V
Saturday, Sep. 15, 2007 at 4:37 AM
...got arrested yesterday and has 20000 bail.
www.nomoreinvasion.com/forum/index.php?topic=1113.0
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by BaBaBooey!
Saturday, Sep. 15, 2007 at 1:03 PM
click the "play" icon on the right and wait a minute http://youtube.com/user/YTCommunityWatch2
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