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by Digery Cohen
Wednesday, Jun. 20, 2007 at 10:06 PM
digerycohen@yahoo.co.uk
Has now reached the courts
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Cheney’s corruption of America.
Has now reached the courts.
Libby is about to be corruptly let off going to jail by judges, chosen by Cheney, for a crime Cheney, himself, committed.
That crime was the treasonous attack and exposure of a CIA agent by Cheney because that CIA agent’s husband exposed Cheney’s criminal lead up to the Iraq invasion.
Cheney has used the laws and powers - he brought in after his incompetence in failing to stop 9/11- to corrupt American democracy, totally.
Civil liberties have been destroyed, in public and in secret by the Patriot Act and his other statutes.
The full extent of this has yet to become clear.
Congress is unable to act to protect America because any Congress member who tries will be ejected from their seat, or worse, by the new gatekeepers of democracy in America – The AIPAC.
This is what happens you get when you have a weak, cowardly and stupid President and the country is run by an ex coward and dollar moron like Cheney.
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by THE BUSH 9-11 JUNTA
Thursday, Jun. 21, 2007 at 5:11 AM
HIS UNHOLINESS (GEORGE WARMONGER BUSH) : "Sorry to Oil the Post 9-11 Hijacking of the US Government, the Bush Sponsored Secret Trials in Secret Courts, the Get out of Jail Cards for Bush Junta Felons, the Bush Push to protect Enron Felons, the Bush Push to protect convicted CEO's, and the Bush Push to prosecute Antiwar protesters on Trumped up Charges but Oil comes First. READY TO REVIL WITH THE DEVIL ????????"
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by Lord Locksley
Thursday, Jun. 21, 2007 at 11:01 AM
"Libby is about to be corruptly let off going to jail by judges, chosen by Cheney, for a crime Cheney, himself, committed.
That crime was the treasonous attack and exposure of a CIA agent by Cheney because that CIA agent’s husband exposed Cheney’s criminal lead up to the Iraq invasion."
Once more this 'Digery' clown illustrates his feeble attemps at Orwellian revisionism....Valerie Plame was 'outed',....if that is the right word...by Richard Armitage...who has admitted that it was him....this was known to Patrick Fitzgerald before he even begain his investigation....and he chose not to prosecute Armitage since Plame was not covered by the Intelligence Officers Identities Act or whatever it's called....if she had been,Fitzgerald would have indicted Armitage....so there was never ANY 'predicate felony' to this entire episode....Libby's 'perjury' was a ''process crime'...committed during the investigation itself.....too bad 'Digery' assumed wrongly that nobody knew this
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by cryer
Thursday, Jun. 21, 2007 at 2:06 PM
Wasn't Patrick Fitzgerald the tool that prosecuted the 1993 WTC bombing and let the FBI off the hook even when it was proven that the FBI financed the 'plot', provided the informant ( instigator ) as well as the explosives? The legal system is corrupt, in case anyone wanted to know. This is pure perception management for public entertainment. Not an investigation or parish the thought, justice.
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by Lord Locksley
Thursday, Jun. 21, 2007 at 2:57 PM
It was never 'proven' that the FBI was in ANY way involved in the 1993 WTC bombing... if you have anything to back that up other than your own feeble assertion,then you need to provide it here...Fitzgerald did prosecute that case and succeeded in putting Mullah Omar et al in prison for it...and the word is PERISH....not 'parish',
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by cryer
Thursday, Jun. 21, 2007 at 5:01 PM
Yup it is too bad that Ali Salem had a wire on him when he was under FBI direction as the 'informant' who organized the affair and RECORDED the conversations he had with his FBI handler. Very embarrassing.
But you have to admit that the FBI who did supply the explosives, had good stuff, eh?
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by Lord Locksley
Thursday, Jun. 21, 2007 at 11:36 PM
Actually all I 'have to admit' is that you made the whole thing up...you can't site a single reference or source for your lame ass assertion so clearly this is simply disinformation on your part
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by cryer
Friday, Jun. 22, 2007 at 3:39 AM
The 'lord' thinks you're too stupid to look up the particulars. Yes the FBI was the terrorists who set up the 1993 WTC bombing. -Who Bombed the U.S. World Trade Center? — 1993 http://takingaim.info/articles/wtc93.html Or -FBI Informant Edam Salem: "...we was start already building the bomb which is went off in the World Trade Center. It was built by supervising supervision from the Bureau and the DA and we was all informed about it and we know that the bomb start to be built. By who? By your confidential informant. What a wonderful great case!" Just use a search engine to find [ -FBI +WTC +1993 ] and see for yourself. Just because the 'lord' is ignorant, it doesn't mean the reader has to be.
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by Lord Locksley
Friday, Jun. 22, 2007 at 4:41 AM
So what you are saying in effect is that Blll Clinton was behind it and only used the FBI to do his dirty work and that every media outlet in the US went along with the so called coverup out of love and loyaly to Clinton...heh.....you cite the same Ralph Schoenman who habitually questions the sanity of ANYONE who has the temerity to disagree with him....including the late Bertrand Russell to whom he was personal secretary....you site nothing other than the OPINION of a life long anti American activist with an axe to grind here....sort of like citing Lyndon LaRouche in terms of his credibility....and the article you site says nothing at all about your assertion that the FBI provided the explosives.....so, like I said,you just made that up
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by cryer
Friday, Jun. 22, 2007 at 4:55 AM
The 'lord' is really hoping you're stupid and didn't read the link. but here's another to provide the explosive connection.
THE NEW YORK TIMES * * * * * Thursday October 28, 1993 Page A1 "Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast" By Ralph Blumenthal Law-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center, and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after the blast. The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer, Emad Salem, should be used, the informer said. The account, which is given in the transcript of hundreds of hours of tape recordings that Mr. Salem secretly made of his talks with law-enforcement agents, portrays the authorities as being in a far better position than previously known to foil the February 26th bombing of New York City's tallest towers. The explosion left six people dead, more than a thousand people injured, and damages in excess of half-a-billion dollars. Four men are now on trial in Manhattan Federal Court [on charges of involvement] in that attack. Mr. Salem, a 43-year-old former Egyptian Army officer, was used by the Government [of the United States] to penetrate a circle of Muslim extremists who are now charged in two bombing cases: the World Trade Center attack, and a foiled plot to destroy the United Nations, the Hudson River tunnels, and other New York City landmarks. He is the crucial witness in the second bombing case, but his work for the Government was erratic, and for months before the World Trade Center blast, he was feuding with the F.B.I. Supervisor `Messed It Up' After the bombing, he resumed his undercover work. In an undated transcript of a conversation from that period, Mr. Salem recounts a talk he had had earlier with an agent about an unnamed F.B.I. supervisor who, he said, "came and messed it up." "He requested to meet me in the hotel," Mr. Salem says of the supervisor. "He requested to make me to testify, and if he didn't push for that, we'll be going building the bomb with a phony powder, and grabbing the people who was involved in it. But since you, we didn't do that." The transcript quotes Mr. Salem as saying that he wanted tocomplain to F.B.I. Headquarters in Washington about the Bureau's failure to stop the bombing, but was dissuaded by an agent identified as John Anticev. Mr. Salem said Mr. Anticev had told him, "He said, I don't think that the New York people would like the things out of the New York Office to go to Washington, D.C." Another agent, identified as Nancy Floyd, does not dispute Mr. Salem's account, but rather, appears to agree with it, saying of the `New York people': "Well, of course not, because they don't want to get their butts chewed." From Trial Transcript tapes made by Salem for the his protection & the FBI. As for the portions which clearly indicated that the FBI was involved in a classic entrapment setup and had collaborated with Salem in the implementation of the bombing, they were conveniently not publicized. In a surreptitiously taped conversation involving Salem and Special Agent John Anticev, Salem refers to his contribution in the making of the bomb and the Bureau's awareness and consent of it. An avaricious Salem is seen pressing for more money. The conversation revolves around references to the bombing and the FBI's acquaintance of the bomb making: Anticev: "But ah basically nothing has changed. I'm just telling you for my own sake that nothing, that this isn't a salary but you got paid regularly for good information. I mean the expenses were a little bit out of the ordinary and it was really questioned. Don't tell Nancy I told you this." Salem: "Well, I have to tell her of course." Anticev: "Well then, if you have to, you have to." Salem: "Yeah, I mean because the lady was being honest and I was being honest and everything was submitted with receipts and now it's questionable." Anticev: "It's not questionable, it's like a little out of the ordinary." Salem: "Okay. I don't think it was. If that what you think guys, fine, but I don't think that because we was start already building the bomb which is went off in the World Trade Center. It was built by supervising supervision from the Bureau and the DA and we was all informed about it and we know what the bomb start to be built. By who? By your confidential informant. What a wonderful great case! And then he put his head in the sand I said "Oh, no, no, that's not true, he is son of a bitch." (Deep breath) Okay. It's built with a different way in another place and that's it." Anticev: "No, don't make any rash decisions. I'm just trying to be as honest with you as I can." Salem: "Of course, I appreciate that." Former Watergate associate prosecutor Richard Ben-Veniste warned that these tapes pose "an absolute nightmare for federal prosecutors."
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by so what did they do?
Friday, Jun. 22, 2007 at 5:14 AM
They found a certain Patrick Fitzgerald to prosecute the case with a certain American/Israeli citizen, Michael Chertoff, and totally ignore or dismiss or deny the information in these tapes. Like I always say, this is not justice.
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by Lord Locksley
Friday, Jun. 22, 2007 at 5:18 AM
....then 'Scooter' Libby SHOULD be pardoned and Fitzgerald should be indicted for misprision of a felony and disbarred
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by good idea
Friday, Jun. 22, 2007 at 7:28 AM
Well of course. This nation is run on conflict of interests. The honest judiciary is a fractional minority. But the entire upper echelons of command and control are compromised and controlled themselves by their benefactors. If all the richest 5000 people of the world died tomorrow, there would be a golden age.
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by good idea
Friday, Jun. 22, 2007 at 7:28 AM
Well of course. This nation is run on conflict of interests. The honest judiciary is a fractional minority. But the entire upper echelons of command and control are compromised and controlled themselves by their benefactors. If all the richest 5000 people of the world died tomorrow, there would be a golden age.
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by The FBI cooked the 1993 WTC bomb
Friday, Jun. 22, 2007 at 7:43 AM
So in essence the FBI as in the- cough cough- Justice Dept. with the usual slant towards they showed in the Waco, Ruby Ridge, Pine Ridge and I'm sure, countless other as yet unproven or undiscovered incidences are an arm of the secret government replete with full military hardware when needed. They violate the law they are sworn to uphold and they engage in monstrous criminal slaughter.
So all I'm saying as I stated in the beginning is/was
-Wasn't Patrick Fitzgerald the tool that prosecuted the 1993 WTC bombing and let the FBI off the hook even when it was proven that the FBI financed the 'plot', provided the informant ( instigator ) as well as the explosives? The legal system is corrupt, in case anyone wanted to know. This is pure perception management for public entertainment. Not an investigation or parish the thought, justice.-
And I stand unrefuted on all points.
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by cryer
Friday, Jun. 22, 2007 at 7:54 AM
about the spelling error on parish. Point for you. Thank you for the lesson in spelling. I will always cherish it.
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by Lord Locksley
Friday, Jun. 22, 2007 at 2:05 PM
I also caught you fabricating the assertion that the FBI provided the explosives for the 1993 WTC bombing as well....but thanks for believing that Bill Clinton was behind the whole thing and the coverup as well....yet another reason not to vote for his so called wife next year
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by jess
Friday, Jun. 22, 2007 at 3:28 PM
Can Lord Locksley even read? He must be cognitively challenged. Perhaps a brain transplant with someone who has a clue would help. What part of -". It was built by supervising supervision from the Bureau and the DA -" and "-Law-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center, and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after the blast. The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer, Emad Salem, should be used, the informer said. -"
Which means ( for minimal IQ types ) that the FBI 'informant' built a bomb "under supervision" from the FBI with a hot H.E. payload.
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by mnch
Saturday, Jun. 23, 2007 at 1:17 AM
What will convince the Lord is a certified statement from the FBI accepting full criminal responsibility on all the major networks for a week without let up. Otherwise it's still the 'I don't understand or believe you-- nah nah.." as if suppling the 'informant' who put the bomb together under their direction wasn't enough. The 'Lord' wants really, really, REALLY clear evidence.
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by yes, it's true
Saturday, Jun. 23, 2007 at 7:37 AM
The 'lord' is retarded as he is unable to use a computer or search engine. http://www.911omissionreport.com/first_wtc.html Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast THE NEW YORK TIMES | Thursday October 28, 1993 Page A1 By Ralph Blumenthal Law-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center, and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after the blast. The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer, Emad Salem, should be used, the informer said.
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by Lord Locksley
Saturday, Jun. 23, 2007 at 7:46 AM
That URL does NOT connect to the alleged original NYT article...it is a site run by so called 'truthers' and is NOT evidentiary....show me a URL for the original NYT article....not some doctored crapola by some group with a revisionist agenda
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by my precious
Saturday, Jun. 23, 2007 at 6:32 PM
Hmmm even though it's on hundreds of references, the NYT didn't maintain the page. I guess it went the way of the Washington Times expose' [29Jun89] of the Bush Sr. Pedophile call boy ring. They don't have that in their archives either.
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by Lord Locksley
Saturday, Jun. 23, 2007 at 6:51 PM
....for the simple reason that it was never there......just like the fictional example I previously mentioned about the FBI and the WTC plot....pure invention
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by 77777
Saturday, Jun. 23, 2007 at 7:09 PM
It proves that even with multiple references with author, publication and the date, across multiple references on all sides of the political spectrum, when the NYT scrubs an article from its archives, it was never there. Handy!
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by Lord Locksley
Saturday, Jun. 23, 2007 at 7:16 PM
......all it proves is that the one source cited about...some so called 'truther' group.,..is capable of faking a NYT citation....and that URL is the only one that was mentioned for the assertion that 'cryer' made about the FBI....if the NYT article actually had existed we would see more sources for it then simply the one 'truther' site
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by Dick Danger
Saturday, Jun. 23, 2007 at 7:59 PM
That's really fairly funny, Key in - THE NEW YORK TIMES | Thursday October 28, 1993 Page A1 By Ralph Blumenthal - http://this-must-stop.com/newyorktimes.htm and if you think it's a forgery why don't you drop a line to Mr. B? He would be interested. Or maybe you don't believe in Mr. Blumenthal. Welcome to Ralph Blumenthal's Web Site The website of Ralph Blumenthal award-winning New York Times journalist
av.rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5W97tnxGxl4ATSODBqMX;_ylu=X3oDM...
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by Lord Locksley
Sunday, Jun. 24, 2007 at 4:44 PM
"and if you think it's a forgery why don't you drop a line to Mr. B? '
...I did just that since he lives here in Houston......the following is my email to Ralph Blumenthal this morning and his response....read 'em and weep,dude.....
"Mr Blumenthal: I'm wondering if you can clear up a matter for me...it concerns a series of articles you wrote in late October of 1993 about the WTC bombing and the FBI informant Emad Salem and the possibility that he was supposed to substitute fake powder for the explosives that were used in the bomb....it is being asserted by some so called 'truthers' on various Indymedia sites that the FBI itself provided the actual explosives for the device and your article of that day is being cited as 'proof' of this assertion...albeit the links provided as the 'proof' are to the 'truther' websites and not the original article you wrote about it....I have contended,contrariwise,that although the FBI and the informant Salem may have failed to substitute fake powder for the explosives,that the actual explosives were provided by the perpetrators themselves and that your original article does NOT in fact assert they came from the FBI...I would appreciate any clarification you might be able to give on this matter....not only in the interest of journalistic accuracy,but also to make it clear that the FBI was not the source of the actual explosives...best regards
.....and his response......
"Thanks for your inquiry. You are referring to my article of Oct. 28, 1993 but as you suggest, it does not say that the FBI provided the explosives. I don't have any independent recollection of anything beyond what appeared in the paper. Best wishes, Ralph Blumenthal"
.......if you doubt the authenticity of my email and the response,I invite you to email him yourself and verify our exchange
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by Lord Locksley
Sunday, Jun. 24, 2007 at 5:21 PM
.......there was no underlying crime or 'predicate felony' in this case....Valerie Plame was not covered by the Intelligence Officers Identity act at the time her name came into play......and when it did,it was as a result of it being made public by State Department official Richard Armitage who as admitted it was he and not Dick Cheney.....once more 'Digery' is caught out by the facts
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by didn't you say it was a fake?
Sunday, Jun. 24, 2007 at 6:46 PM
You said it was a 'fabrication'. Just scroll up and refresh your memory, if needed. Why are you always wrong?
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by Lord Locksley
Sunday, Jun. 24, 2007 at 7:07 PM
......that the assertion made by 'cryer' that the FBI supplied the explosives was a fabrication.....he said that Blumenthal's column was 'proof' of that.....and clearly it wasn't.....that was the central bone of contention of this entire thread
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by cryer
Tuesday, Jun. 26, 2007 at 1:09 PM
Ahhh, but you lied again. ".if the NYT article actually had existed we would see more sources for it then simply the one 'truther' site"
Why are you always such a liar? And the FBI was the agency that supplied the non- inert explosives as well as the informant. Pegged again. Ha.
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by Lord Locksley
Tuesday, Jun. 26, 2007 at 3:47 PM
.....by claiming that Blumenthal's article was 'proof' of your assertion that the FBI supplied the explosives....Blumenthal himself says "nay,not so"....ask him yourself if you don't believe me...or you afraid of exploding your own bogus assertion?
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by cryer
Tuesday, Jun. 26, 2007 at 7:26 PM
Let me say a few things before I even read your re. Patrick Fitzgerald is a prime fink who, with Michael Chertoff, let the FBI off the hook for their criminal conspiracy against the citizens in the WTC in 1993 who were killed or wounded. The FBI paid informant/ringleader was in fact under FBI pay and direction. The FBI ‘called off’ the ‘dud’ bomb scenario. They financed their informer to build a hot load. They allowed it to happen. Then they went into this big dance on how the vehicle was tracked by the PART NUMBER on an axil. When they knew damn well who did it cause it was their own man and his team. Perhaps even a moron would get it by now.
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by Lord Locksley
Tuesday, Jun. 26, 2007 at 7:43 PM
.....would see that you have been falsely claiming that the FBI provided the actual explosives and now it is been made clear that they didn't and that you simply invented that...along with who knows what else.....what you're really saying is that the Clinton White House and his stooge Janet Reno 'let them off the hook' for this....besides, there is nothing in Blumenthal's column to suggest that the FBI or anyone else knew what the actual eventual target was....apparently that wasn't ever determined by Ehad Salem or anyone else prior to the actual WTC bombing....the FBI knew they had an extremist cell building a bomb for some unknown target.....they had to allow it to be constructed with a hot load or there would have been no case....you can't put people like that in prison for making toy bombs.....more to the point, now everyone knows that you simply fabricated your main assertion....that the FBI provided the actual explosives for the bomb and that you falsely cited Blumenthal's column as 'proof' of that
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by ha.
Tuesday, Jun. 26, 2007 at 7:56 PM
One thing is real clear. Number 1 is you or a cadre of helpers live on this board. Your author only acknowledged his article which you said was a let me see... "faking a NYT citation" and that since the director himself, with a convenient photo copy to prove it to you is not available, it shall just be conceded that the bomb was made with full knowledge of the non dud nature of this device, by the FBI. And to say that their informant was not keeping track of the particulars in this incident to provide the intelligence he was being paid to perform to the FBI is moronic. Points for the attorney like eel dance though.
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by Hang em High
Wednesday, Jun. 27, 2007 at 3:15 AM
Janet Reno and Bill Clinton are both mass murderers and treasonous assholes. No problem with that. I always thought that this was a requirement for higher office anyway. The Egyptian intelligence officer, Ehad Salem was an expert at high explosives as anyone could see by the results. Too bad for the FBI that the dupes were unable to park their package against the base of the core and the blast was dissipated by the air gap. Love the way you are defending our homeland secret police/assassination division, though. Are you their attorney?
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by Lord Locksley
Wednesday, Jun. 27, 2007 at 3:44 AM
.....is Ralph Blumenthal...against the scurrilous charge made by 'cryer' that his column on the WTC bombing is 'proof' that the FBI supplied the explosives....this was falsely imputed to him and he was gracious enough to respond to my email inquiry on the subject and to confirm what I had previously stated....that his column does no such thing....the entire idea was pure invention by 'cryer'....and now everyone knows that
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by "that's contridiction"-"no it
Wednesday, Jun. 27, 2007 at 3:52 AM
Since you're going to continue to state the same thing over and over again, I would suggest to the reader, to scroll up and read any five comments in series. They'll get the picture.
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by boB
Wednesday, Jun. 27, 2007 at 9:26 AM
U.S. Tackling Blast Probe on Unprecedented Scale Ronald J. Ostrow and Robin Wright Los Angeles Times, March 3, 1993 "-Even as office workers were trying to pry their way out of stalled elevators or stagger down smoky stairwells in the wake of a devastating explosion last Friday, a special team of men and women were leaving FBI headquarters here for the next flight to New York.-" From the testimony, backed up with recordings made with his FBI handler of Ehad Salem, the FBI informant/ringleader about his activities pertaining to the 1993 WTC bombing. It was built by supervising supervision from the Bureau and the DA -" and "-Law-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center, and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after the blast. The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer, Emad Salem, should be used, the informer said. -" And just because the author doesn't have enough gusts to state it outright, -""Thanks for your inquiry. You are referring to my article of Oct. 28, 1993 but as you suggest, it does not say that the FBI provided the explosives.-" he doesn't have to exactly by skirting the edge of "but the plan [ which was to have used inert powder] was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor" [ which means the supervision gave the go ahead to use real explosives] and then you reply : "the FBI knew they had an extremist cell building a bomb for some unknown target.....they had to allow it to be constructed with a hot load or there would have been no case" which is a far cry from "...for the simple reason that it was never there......just like the fictional example I previously mentioned about the FBI and the WTC plot....pure invention" And your defense is they didn't know what was going on?
Buying this kind of crap is why assholes like Patrick Fitzgerald and Michael Chertoff go on screwing the concept of justice under the defacto selective enforcement clause of this criminal enterprise.
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by Lord Locksley
Wednesday, Jun. 27, 2007 at 9:32 AM
....who seems to think that the FBI provided the actual explosives is 'cryer'....certainly Ralph Blumenthal didn't...and since he has worked for the NYT for years it is safe to say he is no right wing idealogue...if he had thought or suspected such a thing he would have said so in his NYT series of articles....at least inferentially...and he never once even hinted at it....it is solely a product of cryer's imagination.....as for Fitzgerald and Chertoff,they were both taking their orders on this very high profile case from AG Janet Reno....which means that Bill Clinton told her how to handle the case.....to suggest that Fitzgerald and Chertoff acted independently in this matter is to be utterly ignorant of how the DOJ operates
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by Billy
Wednesday, Jun. 27, 2007 at 12:31 PM
what is this crap you are feeding us? "he has worked for the NYT for years it is safe to say he is no right wing idealogue." The NYT has always been a CIA asset since Project Mockingbird. The FBI is a product and instrument of the real rulers and as we can see after JFK's assassination which they facilitated and help cover up, your assertion that the asshole in the Presidents office is responsible for their behavior is questionable at best. Janet is in hell now and Clinton will just have to wait for his turn. As will the psychopaths that use the FBI for their own personal political police. And garbage like Patrick Fitzgerald and Michael Chertoff, act as co-conspiritors.
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