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How many Minutemen does it take to formulate an argument?

by everardo carvajal Monday, Apr. 16, 2007 at 6:11 PM

Minutmen protest peaceful commemoration. Why?

How many Minutemen does it take to formulate an argument?

The fifth annual Cesar Chavez pilgrimage occurred in Pomona, CA. this past Saturday. The event commemorated Chavez’s commitment to service and worker/human rights. Approximately one hundred and fifty Pomona Valley residents attended the walk and festivities. Several area leaders, students, professionals, and political representatives participated. Several members of the local Minutemen were also in attendance. However, given that walk was set to honor the legacy of giving and civil rights, why were the Minutemen/women compelled to attend?

Rather than formulate a hasty judgment about those who were protesting the legacy of Chavez, it is important to recognize the perspective of the individuals. For these reasons, I conversed with several of the Minutemen/Minutewomen in attendance. It seemed important to locate the most compelling argument that a Minuteman could offer. The importance of discovering their position is straight forward; an argument need not be decisive in order to be a valid and perhaps respectable argument.

I first spoke with a blonde woman whom carried a four foot flag pole fixed to a flag of the same size. Her modest American pride was hidden by her “Rocky” inspired jacket which looked as if it was made from an actual flag. I thought she might offer a well reasoned position for why she countered the celebration of a man committed to non-violence and civil rights. Unfortunately, she was unprepared to speak, or think for that matter as was indicated by her responses to a couple of questions.

After an introduction, I asked the woman for her “motivation” to attend. She quickly and calmly responded that she was in attendance because of “the constitution” and that it gave her “a right to free speech.” I’m not quite sure how my question about motivation was lost in translation, so I asked again, with a reframed question. “What is it about celebrating non-violence and civil rights that brings you out today”, I asked. Her response took a bit longer, I waited, hoping to hear the best reason and explanation yet, only to be disappointed by her words. Her motivation was to “Cause a revolution in Mexico so that Mexicans can take back their own country, and stop migrating to the U.S.”. At that point, I was worried that her ignorance was contagious, so I quickly thanked her for her time, and then I proceeded to speak with the national spokesperson of the Minutemen.

Unfortunately, the woman’s male counterpart demonstrated the same type of expressive deficiency. His motivation was to free the two Border Patrol agents currently detained for the shooting death of an unarmed man attempting to cross the border. The reader should also understand that no individual in attendance was in any way related to this detainment of the agents; which is why it became brilliantly clear that the best argument I could attribute to the day’s agitators was that they were upset. The two were not only upset but determined to be heard. Both issues are indeed commendable aims, however, their efforts are poorly misguided.

The interviewees were clearly dismayed by something. Their determination to agitate a crown of a non-violent commemoration revealed this much. The woman literally waved a giant flag so that it gently whipped the faces of the crowd as she walked by. She also interrupted the Aztec dance group by shouting “viva Oaxaca”. As for her male-counterpart, he mainly remained calm except when somehow discussing the arrival of pilgrims to America. It became clear that the only clear thing about the Minutemen in attendance was that they believed in something deeply. However, they simply don’t know what they believe in. Their actions, words, and even presence reveal their confusion. None of the people in attendance had any influence on the issues of their concern. The event was a commemoration. Why the presence then? It’s unclear. That is, if the Minutemen/women couldn’t even say why they were present, their argument could hardly be clearer to anyone else.


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thanks

by Ch Tuesday, Apr. 17, 2007 at 6:20 PM

props on the actual analysis. a lot of arguing goes on here on this website and its great when someone makes a strong point without being clouded by their anger.
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cesar chavez

by radical Wednesday, Apr. 18, 2007 at 6:16 PM

critical analysis of cesar chavez and his role as head of the UFW has been suppressed since his death and subsequent deification. chavez is depicted as a some sort of saint to whom "progressives" must pay homage, but most know little about his policies and actions as a union leader.

the fact is that the UFW, after early victories, was rendered basically lifeless under his fundamentally conservative rule. the consumer boycott, for which the UFW is best known, was a demobilizing tactic (elevated to a strategy) that rendered fewer and fewer successes as time passed. chavez was an authoritarian who didn't countenance much in the way of "democracy" within "his" union; those who dissented frequently found themselves iced-out. one of the many policies that he advocated which wasn't supported by many was--as the the previous poster indicated--his opposition to illegal immigration, which he viewed as a threat to his (anti-radical) conception of working class organization.
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by Jammer CC Thursday, Apr. 19, 2007 at 5:58 AM

It's always been obvious that many of the Minutemen are doing it for show. They just want a reason to protest and they want people to look at them and say, "wow, those are the Minutemen." From the average age of most of them, I would have thought it was something they would have outgrown long ago. I guess not.
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Chicken MM

by V Thursday, Apr. 19, 2007 at 1:54 PM

The minuteman went away from there own protest a couple weeks ago in ranchocuc because they are too chicken to talk to there own white supremist.
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Tony Biotch

by V Friday, Apr. 20, 2007 at 6:18 AM

you have your own board save our state, minuteman, vdare, freerepublican, and don the donkey silvia even posted on stormfront. you are just a troll in this board tony.
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Why? Because they HATE Mexicans!

by infiltrator Friday, Apr. 20, 2007 at 7:37 AM

why else would the minute-nazis show up to counter-protest a man who stood for non-violence and civil rights?
think about it.
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Tony Biotch

by V Friday, Apr. 20, 2007 at 12:37 PM

Dont want to burst your bubble, tony. Majority of people who oppose the minuteman are born here or citzen to the united states. and we have to right to counter the minuteman.
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