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Ku Klux Klan crashes Minuteman rally

by Minutemen Suck! Monday, Apr. 02, 2007 at 1:26 PM

Wearing black T-shirts with the KKK insignia, their faces covered with bandanas and sunglasses, the group chanted and waved American flags.

Ku Klux Klan crashes Minuteman rally

2:53 a.m. April 1, 2007

RANCHO CUCAMONGA – About 10 members of the Ku Klux Klan crashed a rally organized by the anti-illegal immigration group the Minuteman Project Saturday, police said.

Wearing black T-shirts with the KKK insignia, their faces covered with bandanas and sunglasses, the group chanted and waved American flags.

Minuteman Project spokesman Raymond Herrera said his group of about 40 decided to leave when the Klan members showed up. He said the group did not invite the racist organization to join the rally and would no longer post the dates of its rallies on the Web.

“We dont approve of standing anywhere near the KKK – theyre not with us,” said Herrera, a Mexican-American from Victorville. “Were a multiethnic group. We dont believe in racism, and when the Nazis show up we cancel the rallies immediately. We do not intermingle and we do not believe in their philosophy.”

More than 100 day laborers held a counter-protest nearby.

Police monitored the dueling protests but made no arrests.
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Overt and covert racists

by 1st hand source Monday, Apr. 02, 2007 at 3:46 PM

<"We dont believe in racism, and when the Nazis show up we cancel the rallies immediately.">

Just how f'ing often has this happened?!

Only a few times that I know of because its hard to cover up nazi flags and kkk t-shirts in a public place. Much more often, they leave their gear at home and are NEVER asked to leave.

Notice how the neo-nazis and the kkk ALWAYS show up to rally WITH the minuteklan/sos, NEVER against them.

Why is that? Simple. Birds of a feather flock together.

Also notice how the minuteklan/sos have NEVER rallied against the "open" racists. They claim to be multicultural and multi-ethnic but they dont even ask open racists to leave their OWN rally!

Instead, they walk off without even arguing with the overt racists and leave them protesting FOR them!

Minuteklan/sos have nothing against the overts personally, just that they would rather not be seen with them in public, cause that would blow their cover and irreparably harm their "image" in the mainstream media-an image that is all important to them.

Don't be fooled. MinuteKlan/SOS are closet RACISTS without the balls to represent what they really feel!
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Of course no photos

by Mex Monday, Apr. 02, 2007 at 4:48 PM

And of course, no one had the common sense to take a PHOTOGRAPH?

Gee whiz, whenever someone with a napkin on their head gets arrested, there are photos galore on here.

But the minute a serious Kodak Moment occurs, not a single photo!

WTF guys!
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by Jammer CC Monday, Apr. 02, 2007 at 8:10 PM

Infact, like I stated before, Advocate was rallying with them in Irvine last year. I went around telling everyone about it and their responses were basically, "well, uh, he's an American right? so?"

They strike out with hostility and aggression towards day labor workers, but just walk off like nothing when Nazi types show up.
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Fotos

by watchale Monday, Apr. 02, 2007 at 10:40 PM

The article is from the San Diego Union Tribune Take up the question of fotos with them if you wanna challenge someone.
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I told you we're not racists

by Thomas Lasswell Tuesday, Apr. 03, 2007 at 6:32 AM

What more do we have to do to prove it? We hate racists. We only expect the law to be honored and illegal people shouldn't be here.

tjlass
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You hate racists?

by obs Tuesday, Apr. 03, 2007 at 6:37 AM

Ted Hayes believes in "reparations" for black people, which means the re-distribution of goverment money based on skin color. It means that Blacks, by virute of their skin color, will be relegated to a preferred legal status as a creditor race, and that white people, by virute of their skin color, will be relegated to a subordinate legal status as a debtor race.

This is a form of ethnic supremacism by which people defined by skin color are being urged to occupy a superior legal status to people with another skin color.

Are Ted Hayes and other Negros who support this racist proposal banned from SOS/MMP functions?
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Hayes is not racist

by Thomas Lasswell Tuesday, Apr. 03, 2007 at 6:43 AM

He's just a misinformed negro. He doesn't mean any harm.
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SOS/mm/kkk

by Duh Tuesday, Apr. 03, 2007 at 9:20 AM

SOS MM kkk racist scum go away.
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Internal fight is all

by Fredric L. Rice Tuesday, Apr. 03, 2007 at 9:51 AM
frice@skeptictank.org

It appears that the requests by SOSMM scumbags that they leave their Nazi and Confederate flags and other KKK-based symbols at home this time was ignored by some of their members.

This appears to have been another internal fight, one of many taking place among the hate organization.

My opinions only and only my opinions.
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Where's that SOSMM posting?

by Fredric L. Rice Tuesday, Apr. 03, 2007 at 11:34 AM
frice@skeptictank.org

Where's that SOSMM message pointing where the SOSMM leaders asked their followers to leave the Nazi flags and flyers at home because it makes them look bad? I used to have copies when I had the Dark Wind web site up but I removed that web site.

Thanks!

My opinions only and only my opinions.
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by Jammer CC Tuesday, Apr. 03, 2007 at 1:10 PM

Old Preach once posted on Stormfront asking them to leave their ideologies at home, or something to that effect. I think I have that one printed, among others. But this was in regards to the Minuteman thing at the border, not SOS.
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similar ogr

by V Tuesday, Apr. 03, 2007 at 1:33 PM

they talk one and another about plans. united american commintee, save our state, minuteman project, etc.
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pictures

by poco Tuesday, Apr. 03, 2007 at 3:00 PM

My girlfriend got a few pics with her cell phone. Poor quality but you can see the KKK
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rancho cuke

by Atheist Tuesday, Apr. 03, 2007 at 5:42 PM

Rancho Cuke's a big time racist city. But Holy F*CK!

Yeah, I cant believe no one out of a hundred protestors had a cell phone to record this CR*P! You GOTTA post it people!

OMFG!!
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links to news story

by infiltrator Tuesday, Apr. 03, 2007 at 7:04 PM

link to picture of kkk guys:

http://dailybulletin.mycapture.com/m...844&thispage=1

link to story, has 8 photos:

http://www.dailybulletin.com/news/ci_5568917



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by Jammer CC Wednesday, Apr. 04, 2007 at 3:14 AM

Remember next time to observe who is talking to who at the rallies. An SOS/MM member may be there before any Nazis show up and may turn out to be a Nazi also. If that's the case, try to see who that person interacts with. I try to get a quick shot of all the faces when I arrive at a rally incase any of them turn out to be a Nazi. Also see who leaves with who and riding in who's car. Get it on film and photo, post it, and the Minutemen/SOS can explain it.

On a side note, SOS is putting a total smear on the stabbing incident in Laguna Beach. What Eileen aka Ghost does is look for articles and reports on violent crimes and incidents and posts only the ones with Mexican/Hispanic names. She pastes the article and highlights the names in some way. So basically that's all she's focusing on, people with Mexican/Hispanic names. Then other people reply and assume things like "illegal," "anchor baby," etc. As for the incident in Laguna Beach, the depot is NOT across the street from the day labor center like Eileen states in her post. It's waaaay down the road from the center. But that doesn't stop her from trying to pin this incident on the labor center, another pathetic attack on the workers there. Another new low by SOS.

If the day labor center is in some way bringing problems to Laguna Beach, I'll be the first to say tear it down. But that's not the case and it's actually taking the whole pick up operation away from some random parking lots and putting it out of the way so people can do their business. Who's to say there were any problems with crime with those workers in particular anyways? Anything of the sort has yet to be proven.
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USA hate-reeiot OUTED!

by 1st hand source Wednesday, Apr. 04, 2007 at 2:13 PM

The fat lady with the amerikkkin flag identified as Debra Bedoy of Upland in the daily bulletin photo gallery posts as "USA Patriot Mom" on the save our state website.

Hateriot mom "organized" the counter-protest at san bernardino city hall a couple of weeks ago. She's another TOTAL f'ining lunatic whose racist rage is going to land her in jail before too long.

Jammer youre right--laguna beach resident hater-about-town Eileen, aka "Ghost" to sos, cant get enough of hating people with spanish surnames which is funny cause her last name is GARCIA. Yet another case of go figure.
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pic of nazi-kkk-sos-minuteman

by BaBaBooey! Thursday, Apr. 05, 2007 at 11:56 AM

i thought The Donkey told his friends to stay home

http://www.dailybulletin.com/search/ci_5580562
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this is really kinda funny in a sick way

by coyote Friday, Apr. 06, 2007 at 6:16 PM

You'd think some of the so-called MM non-racists would get it eventually. Nobody in the community agrees with them but the white nationalist wingnuts.
this is really kinda funny in a sick way. I don't think a north american political tendency has taken the klan seriously enough to increase organizational security culture since the Maoists back in the 80's
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by Jammer CC Saturday, Apr. 07, 2007 at 3:06 AM

It could be that the majority of Americans who don't have much insight in this issue just go by a simple "the law is the law" reasoning and want the immigration laws to be enforced. That is until they take other things into consideration, like oh human life for one. That's how I was first coming into this. I still respect the laws but I'm not about to rally for mass deportations. I'm not rallying in favor of amnesty/guest worker programs either, but I am much to that idea.

It's interesting to note that those who favor people here against immigration laws got many thousands of people to participant in a gigantic rally march in Los Angeles. And the Minutemen hardly make a blip on the radar when they try their thing in Hollywood. And I'll bet you they're not gonna get anywhere near the same numbers in Washington DC. If the need for harsh measures like deportation is so urgently needed, wouldn't there be many thousands of people rallying for it?

Funny thing is, if that many people will march I know the Minutemen will pull an ANSWER and show up with their signs, take pictures, and claim the whole march was a "Minuteman march."
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by Jammer CC Saturday, Apr. 07, 2007 at 3:08 AM

I meant to say I am open to the idea of a "guest worker" program or some measure that gives them a chance to make things right and stay. I typed "much open" but meant to delete "much" to just say I'm simply open to the idea.

And no offense to any ANSWER fans, but they do have their publicity tactics.
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Reparations Myth

by Dan Thursday, Apr. 12, 2007 at 9:40 AM
sturg1dj@cmich.edu

the basic idea of reparations is not to give free money based on skin color....think of it more about back pay for hundreds of years of free labor. (the government does owe 40 acres and a mule...right?)


and its not like this is some cooky grand thing dreamed up by the black community....since the Jewish community received reparations from Germany, the asian community received reparations from the US for the internment camps during WWII (yeah, we had camps too, and even though they were not death camps people did die, or lose their belongings, or their businesses) and many indiginous groups all over the world have received some sort of reparations based on the fact that Europeans like to kill them and all.



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Re: reparations

by not sure Thursday, Apr. 12, 2007 at 11:46 AM

Jewish community received reparations from Germany, the asian community received reparations from the US for the internment camps during WWII ...


But not for their descendants, right?

I think we'd all agree that its ok to get reparations for being stuck in manzanar for 2 years- but is it ok for the great grandchildren of those stuck in Manzanar to also get repartaions? Right?
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Minutemen can't get it right

by nazis for target practice Saturday, Apr. 14, 2007 at 11:15 PM

Even the Nazis recognize the minutemen for what they are: half-assed Nazi wannabes who can't even get it together to qualify for brown shirts. Yet.



Here's the Nazi take on their rally at Rancho Cucamonga, straight from overthrow.com, which gleefully features "Happy Birthday Hitler!" on the cover of its National Socialist Magazine.



It includes some straight-up, practical suggestions for the minutemen and SOS on how to get their Nazi act together.



Poor minutemen, just can't get it right. Their leaders are suing each other for identity theft (fraudulent IDs anyone?), Joey pretty much abandons SOS for greener/$$$ pastures, Ted Hayes cons SOS into riding on his reparations float, and now they're not pure enough to be stormtroopers.



Wonder how much longer it will take them to realize they're everybody's fools.

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Minutemen can't get it right

by nazis for target practice Saturday, Apr. 14, 2007 at 11:15 PM

Even the Nazis recognize the minutemen for what they are: half-assed Nazi wannabes who can't even get it together to qualify for brown shirts. Yet.

Here's the Nazi take on their rally at Rancho Cucamonga, straight from overthrow.com, which gleefully features "Happy Birthday Hitler!" on the cover of its National Socialist Magazine.

It includes some straight-up, practical suggestions for the minutemen and SOS on how to get their Nazi act together.

Poor minutemen, just can't get it right. Their leaders are suing each other for identity theft (fraudulent IDs anyone?), Joey pretty much abandons SOS for greener/$$$ pastures, Ted Hayes cons SOS into riding on his reparations float, and now they're not pure enough to be stormtroopers.

Wonder how much longer it will take them to realize they're everybody's fools.

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by Jammer CC Tuesday, Jun. 05, 2007 at 3:16 PM

More on Eileen Garcia of SOS posting articles. Yesterday a man in Dana Point, CA was arrested because of a carjacking and stabbing incident. But unfortunately for Eileen and surely to her disappointment, the guy doesn't have a Spanish, Mexican, or otherwise ethnic sounding name. So that means she won't bother posting the article or bother mentioning it.
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Here's how the deal with these Klowns in Tennessee

by good one, pass it on Tuesday, Jun. 05, 2007 at 9:17 PM

Original-To: xxxxxxxxxxxxx@lists.riseup.net

(snip)

>http://video.ap.org/v/Legacy.aspx?f=TNKNN&g=bcf25941-1f55-4f99-9f44-1b3354cbe147&t=s1176394841410&rf=http%3a%2f%2fwww.knoxnews.com%2fkns%2flocal_news%2farticle%2f0%2c1406%2cKNS_347_5557548%2c00.html&fg=tool&partner=en-ap
>
>Clowns KKKick KKK ass!
>
>
>Saturday May 26th the VNN Vanguard Nazi/KKK
>group attempted to host a hate rally to try to
>take advantage of the brutal murder of a white
>couple for media and recruitment purposes.
><http://www.volunteertv.com/special>http://www.volunteertv.com/special
>
>Unfortunately for them the 100th ARA (Anti
>Racist Action) clown block came and handed them
>their asses by making them appear like the asses
>they were.
>
>Alex Linder the founder of VNN and the lead
>organizer of the rally kicked off events by
>rushing the clowns in a fit of rage, and was
>promptly arrested by 4 Knoxville police officers
>who dropped him to the ground when he resisted
>and dragged him off past the red shiny shoes of
>the clowns.
><http://www.volunteertv.com/home/headlines/7704982.html>http://www.volunteertv.com/home/headlines/7704982.html
>
>
>“White Power!” the Nazi’s shouted, “White
>Flour?” the clowns yelled back running in
>circles throwing flour in the air and raising
>separate letters which spelt “White Flour”.
>
>“White Power!” the Nazi’s angrily shouted once
>more, “White flowers?” the clowns cheers and
>threw white flowers in the air and danced about
>merrily.
>
>“White Power!” the Nazi’s tried once again in a
>doomed and somewhat funny attempt to clarify
>their message, “ohhhhhh!” the clowns yelled
>“Tight Shower!” and held a solar shower in the
>air and all tried to crowd under to get clean as
>per the Klan’s directions.
>
>At this point several of the Nazi’s and Klan
>members began clutching their hearts as if they
>were about to have a heart attack. Their beady
>eyes bulged, and the veins in their tiny narrow
>foreheads beat in rage. One last time they
>screamed “White Power!”
>
>The clown women thought they finally understood
>what the Klan was trying to say. “Ohhhhh…” the
>women clowns said. “Now we understand…”, “WIFE
>POWER!” they lifted the letters up in the air,
>grabbed the nearest male clowns and lifted them
>in their arms and ran about merrily chanting
>“WIFE POWER! WIFE POWER! WIFE POWER!”
>
>It was at this point that several observers
>reported seeing several Klan members heads
>exploding in rage and they stopped trying to
>explain to the clowns what they wanted.
>
>Apparently the clowns fundamentally
>misunderstood the nature of the rally, they
>believed it was a clown rally and came in force
>to support their pointy hated brethren. To their
>dismay, despite their best jokes and stunts and
>pratfalls the Nazis and Klan refused to laugh,
>and indeed became enraged at the clowns
>misunderstanding and constant attempts to
>interpret the clowns instruction.
>
>The clowns on the other hand had a great time
>and thought the Nazis were the funniest thing
>they had ever seen and the loud laughter of over
>100 counter protesters greeted every attempt of
>the Nazis and Klan to get their message out,
>whatever that was.
>
>Many of the local Knoxvillians that came to
>counter demonstrate had no illusions about why
>these out of state bad clowns with swastikas
>were doing in their town.
>
>“KKK YOU CAN’T HIDE, WE CHARGE YOU WITH GENOCIDE!”
>
>“GAY, STRAIGHT, BLACK, WHITE ONE STRUGGLE ONE FIGHT!”
>
>“U.G.L.Y. KLAN YOU AIN’T GOT NO ALIBI, YOU UGLY, YOU UGLY”
>
>Were just a few of the chants that the non clown
>counter protesters rained down upon the Nazis.
>The clowns interacted with the non clown
>protesters with glee and even participated in a
>chant or two, though apparently with no idea
>that the Nazis were indeed not clowns thinking
>it was just part of the show.
>
>In the end the 20 or so sad VNNers left with
>their tails between their legs. At this point
>over 150 counter demonstraters were present. The
>clowns seeing how dejected and sad the Nazi’s
>looked began singing to cheer them up.
>
>“hey hey hey hey, ho ho ho ho—good bye, good
>bye” everyone sang waving their arms in the air
>in unison.
>
>After the VNNers left in their shiny SUVs to go
>back to Alabama and all the other states that
>they were from the clowns and counter
>demonstrators began to march out of the area
>chanting ‘WHOSE STREETS? OUR STREETS!”
>
>But the cops stopped the clowns and counter
>protestors. “Hey, do you want an escort” an
>African-American police officer on a motorcycle
>asked. “Yes” a clown replied. “We are walking to
>Market Square in the center of town to
>celebrate.”
>
>The police officers got in front of the now anti
>racist parade and blocked the entire road for
>the march through the heart of Knoxville. An
>event called imagination station was taking
>place and over 15,000 thousand students and
>their parents were in town that weekend. Many of
>them cheered as the clowns, Knoxvillians and
>counter protestors marched through the heart of
>Knoxville singing and laughing at the end of the
>Nazi’s first attempt at having a rally in
>Knoxville.
>
>On June 16th the Stormfront Nazis are trying to
>have a second rally in Knoxville. Clowns,
>anarchist, activist and others are all invited
>to come and creatively and nonviolently help us
>confront these Nazis and give them an even
>bigger counter rally than the first. If you can
>come, or can help email.
>
>knoxvilleantiracistaction@yahoo.com>knoxvilleantiracistaction@yahoo.com
>
>or join our myspace at:
>
><http://www.myspace.com/knoxvilleantiracistaction>http://www.myspace.com/knoxvilleantiracistaction
>
>Thanks to Three Rivers Earth First!, Mountain
>Justice Summer, Katuah Earth First!, Knoxville
>Anti Racist Action, Katuah Anti Racist Action
>and the clown block for utterly wrecking the
>failed attempt of the Nazis to get a foothold in
>Knoxville. In one day Three Rivers Earth
>First!ers posted over 1000 anti racist fliers
>all over Knoxville recruiting people to come,
>this is just one example of all the work and
>effort that went in to creatively and
>nonviolently rejecting the VNNers out of
>Knoxville.
>
>
>
>
>
>"That government being instituted for the common benefit,
>the doctrine of nonresistance against arbitrary power
>and oppression is absurd, slavish, and destructive of
>the good and happiness of mankind."
>
>Section 2 of the Tennessee Constitution
>
>UNITED MOUNTAIN DEFENSE!
>
>http://www.unitedmountaindefense.org/
>
>join our list at:
>
>http://lists.riseup.net/www/info/unitedmountaindefense
>
>Check my Global Warming Blog at
>
>http://globalwarmingfacts.blogspot.com/
>
>Myspace at
>
>http://www.myspace.com/revoltandresist
>
>
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