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The "Patriots and 9/11" Trap

by repost Saturday, Dec. 16, 2006 at 11:42 AM

Morgan Reynolds and David Shayler are "former" government officials who say they believe that real planes didn't hit the WTC towers on 9/11 -- need we say anymore? People have tried to email the webmaster of the web site "Patriots Question 9/11," but get no response to the promotion on there of these individuals as Patriots who "Question" the official version of the events of 9/11. But how hard is that to figure out? Not all who describe themselves as "patriots" are really the type of patriots we think they are. The push by some in the so-called 9/11 truth movement to follow and spread the word of "celebs" has only been shown to tank credibility -- celebs and big names have been shown all too often to function as bait for the explicit promotion of "no planes" theories.

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The "Patriots and 9/11" Trap

Websites like "Patriots Question 9/11" function as bait to attract people who think that it's an asset to have big names in a movement. They spread the urls without realizing that sites like this are packed with nonsense and ultimately function as a boobytrap to link us all to theories that commercial jets weren't involved on 9/11, that passengers were dissappeared or never existed, phone calls were all faked, etc -- all the stuff that makes average people see us as crazy. The most obvious examples on the list are Reynolds and Shayler, but many of the others on Patriots Question 9/11 are supporting nonsense which mainstream media has already trashed us with, like the idea that a missile hit the Pentagon.

At first I wondered, why does the website "Patriots Question 9/11" feature known hologram promoter David Shayler and known no-plane-at-the-WTC promoter Morgan Reynolds? I tried writing to the owner of the website but got no response. Pretty soon, looking at more of the names, I realized that this is just another hoax site that functions primarily to discredit us. Maybe the webmaster is sincere but he's being fed ideas or information from others, or maybe he isn't sincere. We generally can never know these things. But what we do know is that knowingly listing a HOLOGRAM advocate as a "Patriot" is absurd, and government officials who think a missile hit the Pentagon are probably still working for the givernment and will only decrease our credibility.

Ultimately, however, getting rid of Reynolds and Shayler won't help this site or these types of efforts. It's already clear what its message is - mix the nonsense with the real stuff and label and hype it as "big names" from the government who can "help" us. Well, we've got all the "help" we need. Instead, why don't we stick to the work of real activists and real researchers - grassroots - and forget about the slick loud hoax traps that everyone walks into over and over when they are trying to reach people through FOX news, cool films and big names celebrities. Even Charlie Sheen was saying he didn't think those were "real" commercial jets that hit the WTC. Did you notice that? Well he did. Look again.

http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/

SHAYLER:

"A recent article for the British magazine New Statesman profiled David Shayler and Annie Machon, former MI5 agents who went public with details of their service, who have since joined the growing "9/11 truth movement." Much to Machon's chagrin, Shayler outed himself as a "no-planer" who believes the airliners we saw strike the World Trade Center towers were actually cruise missiles disguised as planes using sophisticated hologram technology. "The only explanation is that they were missiles surrounded by holograms made to look like planes…I know it sounds weird, but this is what I believe," Shayler told journalist Brendan O'Neill."

http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/1006/1006debunking.htm

The Sunday Times - Comment

The Sunday Times September 10, 2006

Rebel MI5 agent says 9/11 planes were holograms

David Shayler, the former MI5 officer turned whistleblower, has joined the 9/11 deniers. "We know for certain that the official story of 9/11 isn't true," he tells the New Statesman. "The twin towers did not collapse because of planes and fire. They were brought down in a controlled demolition. The Pentagon was most likely hit by an American missile, not an aeroplane." Not that he thinks planes hit the towers. "I believe no planes were involved in 9/11. The only explanation is that they were missiles surrounded by holograms made to look like planes." Hard to believe, isn't it? Come to think of it, are we sure this isn't an MI5 agent posing as Shayler in an attempt to discredit him? Is there indeed such a person as Shayler, or was he — as some now think — invented by the CIA?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2088-2350584,00.html

"got the chance to chat with David Shayler afterwards, who was drawing quite a crowd around him. I was a little surprised to hear him talk about holograms, and it seems Shayler may be a 'no-planer'."

http://jultra.blogspot.com/2006/09/911-david-ray-griffin-david-shayler.html



REYNOLDS

The papers of Reynolds and Woods grab at anything they can to try to discredit Physics Prof. Steven Jones, which functions to deflect attention from any sincere address of the content of the debate -- they make stabs at Jones' character, his previous work in cold fusion, the timing of his responses to their papers, and call him names like "retarded," of all things. Just looking at the papers briefly, the character attacks and efforts to deflect away from content are everywhere.

Here are some quotes from the essay, "Reynolds & Wood Try to Help Steven E. Jones"

http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=helping_jones

http://seattle.indymedia.org/en/2006/10/255413.shtml

Other references on Reynolds:

A response to Reynolds and Wood (Word Document)

Frank Legge

http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/Response_to_Reynolds_and_Wood2.doc

A Critical Review of Morgan Reynolds' "Why Did the Trade Center Skyscrapers Collapse?"

by Jim Hoffman

Version 1.1, June 26, 2005

http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/reynolds/

Reply to Reynolds and Wood--Part I (Word Document)

Steven E. Jones

http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/JonesReplytoReynolds-Wood.doc

No Planes Theory: R.I.P.

12 September 2006, georgewashington.blogspot

http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/09/no-planes-theory-rip.html

A Critical Review of WTC "No Plane" Theories

by Eric Salter

28 September 2005

http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/salter/review.html

updated version: http://journalof911studies.com/volume/200610/Salter.pdf (PDF)

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