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Area cops lead minuteman invasion of Maywood

by Leslie Radford Monday, Nov. 13, 2006 at 8:15 PM
leslie@radiojustice.net

Residents of Maywood and their supporters outnumbered minutemen objecting to their sanctuary city, but the counterprotestors were met by a hostile array of local and area cops fronting for the racist invaders.

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MAYWOOD, CA, 12 November 2006--Maywood has a problem, and it isn't the minutemen who invaded the small city outside of Los Angeles yesterday.  Maywood has a police problem.  The minutemen at yesterday's protest were penned in behind wooden sawhorse barricades and fronted by a hundred or more aggressive police, guarding the minutemen from two hundred and fifty peaceful Maywood residents and supporters.

Save Our State, a group that routinely contributes their time and resources to hassling day laborers, joined with leaders of the California Coalition for Immigration Reform, Minuteman Project, and the Crispus Attucks Brigade, all area anti-immigrant groups.  Together they managed to pull together seventy or so supporters to protest Maywood's resolution to be a sanctuary city, refusing federal funds to aid in immigrant roundups.

They were led into Maywood with a police escort, and the police spent the day serving as shock troops for the racist agenda.

After some minutemen cars were vandalized at a September protest in Maywood, Save Our State arranged with Maywood police to protect their vehicles.  The cop escort led the minutemen into a gated parking lot off Slauson.  Apparently they appropriated the parking lot without notifying the owner, who later in the day called a towing service to haul the vehicles away.  The cops turned the tow truck away.

Pro-Maywood counterprotestors were kept a hundred feet away, mostly behind heavy metal barricades across Slauson Boulevard, while police, at times with rifles drawn, surrounded the city's residents in the street and from rooftops on the remaining three sides.

It didn't take ten minutes after the minutemen showed up when the cops, an "emergency response" force from area law enforcement, were wrestling to rescue a piñata of a Ku Klux Klansman tied by Maywood supporters to a traffic light behind the Maywood crowd.

Twenty minutes later, at 10:30 a.m., a minuteman was allowed to leave the pen and stroll through the Maywood crowd handing out Mexican flags with an orange S.O.S mark on them, presumably to set up a photo-op for the minutemen.  He finally threw them on the ground when they were refused.  A few people chased him out and, as he crossed to barricade into "no-man's land" between the minutemen and the protestors, the cops stopped him.  When he flashed his wallet at the cops, he got an escort across the zone between the two groups.  Meanwhile, one of the protestors dogging him crossed a couple of steps beyond the barricade and was thrown down, handcuffed, and led away.  It was only after another protestor complained to the Maywood mayor that Sam Zislman, attorney at law and professor at Irvine University, was plucked from the minutemen cohort and taken off to jail.  Both protestors were released a few hours later.

Reportedly, another counterprotestor, perhaps two, were arrested later in the day, and one was shot with a rubber bullet.  The cops pulled one arrestee's shirt over his face and led him, on their way to the cop car, through a gauntlet of minutemen shouting abuse.  Some counterprotestors managed to lob eggs at the minutemen from a rooftop.

While Maywoodians chanted, "Desde Oaxaca a Maywood, los obreros vercerón," the minutemen replied by blaring an unrecognizable cowboy song and bullhorned, "Speak English--we don't understand you."

When one protestor touched a barricade, Sgt. Barajas, holding a tear gas gun, warned the protestor that he would "light 'em up" if he touched the barricade again.  The minutemen called out, "Who's streets?  Our streets!"  The irony wasn't lost on those who had counted on their police to protect and serve them.

Along Slauson Boulevard a dozen county sheriff's deputies, assisting the Maywood police, faced the people, while three faced the invaders.  Cops, often without badges displayed, from Maywood, Whittier, Southgate, Bell Gardens (at least one masked without a nametag), Downey, and Bellwood manned barricades along the side streets.  They lined up practically shoulder-to-shoulder against the counterprotestors, as a sheriff's helicopter occasionally circled overhead.

"We are indigenous. We will never leave!" "The citizens of Maywood order you to leave!" demanded the counterprotestors.  They began a chant of "Smallpox infested squatters!" aimed at the mostly European-descent minutemen.  The minuteman cranked up "Yankee Doodle Dandy" on their PA system.

By noon, many of the Maywood supporters gone to another event, leaving mostly Maywood residents and the Mexica Movement, who arrived at 6:00 a.m. and remained until the end.

By about 1:00 p.m. the minutemen began to orchestrate their exit.  They began by walking in a circle with their flags.  Then they blared Bruce Springsteen's "Born in the USA," a peculiar choice given its despondent outlook on the condition of those born here.

Meanwhile, on Fishburn Avenue, twenty cops drew their batons and shoved thirty protestors backwards, including a women carrying a baby, to move them down the street from one of the parking lot gates.  With police cover, the minutemen taunted the counterprotestors from behind the parking lot's cast-iron fence.  One protestor, after some disagreement, held up a small U.S. flag, asked the cops if it was illegal to burn it, and proceeded to do so. The police held off a handful of remaining protestors for twenty minutes after the minuteman cars had exited, until they withdrew to the intersection of Fishburn and Slauson and the counterprotestors followed.  

Officer Ruiz called one counterprotestor who asked him a question a "b*tch."  A few minutes later, a minutewoman had moved west to the barricade on Slauson and Fishburn, and was photographing the counterprotestors.  When this reporter asked Officer Acosta to move to the minutemen's barricade fifty feet down east on Slauson to photograph the few remaining minutemen, Acosta said no.  When asked who was in charge, Acosta answered, "No one's in charge."  He quickly revised that when it was noted and said to talk to City Hall. When a counterprotestor asked who the officer in charge was, Acosta repeated "Talk to City Hall" over and over.

Left on Fishburn and Slauson was Ted Hayes, organizer of the Crispus Attucks Brigade and fresh from unsuccessfully trying to mobilize Chicago's African-American community against immigrant sanctuary-seeker Elvira Arellano, with funding from the California Coalition for Immigration Reform.  He had a few sidekicks, including SOS executive director Joseph Turner, as he pranced behind thirty cops and shouted, "Cowards! anyone who won't fight is a coward!"

Maywood has an unpleasant history with its cops, who, until a year ago, routinely used traffic stops to confiscate immigrants' vehicles so that the local tow-truck company could sell them.  That prompted the election of a predominantly Chicano city council, which promptly denounced HR4437, the heinous Sensenbrenner anti-immigrant bill and declared Maywood a sanctuary for immigrants, free from police harassment.  After today's event the city's cops were in more trouble, as residents planned to address the cops' behavior at the protest at Tuesday night's city council meeting.  It seems that the minutemen have inadvertently solidified the community against the cops, and confirmed the city council as residents' haven.

After the protest, Save Our State report in two threads that they went to the Citadel Mall in the City of Commerce, where they taunted, air horned, and ultimately pepper sprayed and tazered shoppers.  One shopper responded by punching one of the minuteman's car window.  The manager of Rudy's Diner refused to seat the white bangers at the restaurant and insisted they take their food to go. 

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Sam I am

by Sam I am Monday, Nov. 13, 2006 at 8:46 PM

He teaches at Lee College in West Hills.
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Don Silva; Same Liar, Different Day

by Watchale Monday, Nov. 13, 2006 at 9:50 PM

Don Silva ALWAYS lays the exact same claim - that Radford has wrongly counted the crowd.

I've seen this lying thug do it again and again, after demos I've been to. This horse's ass doesn't give a damn about the numbers, he knows Radford's numbers are correct - he just wants to have an excuse to call an Indymedia reporter a liar and a phony journalist.

If this were Oaxaca he'd be gunning independent journalists down in the street.

These SOS assholes always come out with the same old sh__.

They hate Indymedia because, as they see it, Indymedia _is_ their opposition.

I'm grateful to Indymedia because it does help us- it is, rightly, an organizing tool, although in quite an opposite way from the SOS website, which they use to organize.

Don's demonization of Radford is vile and ongoing.

He should, simply put, be banned from posting here, first, because he is the very soul of banal evil, and secondly, because he lacks even the minimal imagination to come up with new ways to attack Indymedia in the person of Radford.

It's always _exactly_ the same old song, the same petty, stupid little lie.

Don hasn't studied his buddies Hitler and Goebbels well enough. The Nazi idea is to tell a BIG lie over an over, until people believe it, not some petty ass garbage that no one can even take with a hint of seriousness.
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Cops fired rubber bullets!

by 1st hand source Monday, Nov. 13, 2006 at 10:07 PM

An anti-racist protestor was struck by a rubber bullet at the Maywood protest on Saturday. It hit him on the left side of his torso leaving a fairly deep perfectly circular red wound about 1 1/2 inch in diameter. He had only been wearing a t-shirt at the time.

After the racist Minutemen/SOS had left Maywood, the comrade showed me the wound. I asked him if he wanted me to take him to the hospital because he was obviously in a lot of pain. He said no and just asked me to drive him home.

He mentioned that the pig who shot him didn't even give a warning. The fascist cop just leveled his gun and fired at him for no reason at all. After being hit, the comrade was also chased by the cops for several blocks but thankfully was able to escape.

I told him he should post pictures of his wound on Indymedia to show the world the tactics of the racist cops we had to deal with in Maywood. From providing motorcycle escorts to security guard detail over the racists cars to shooting at unarmed peaceful demonstrators the paramilitary police forces clearly showed on Saturday that they overtly SUPPORT the fascist/racist agenda of SOS and the minutemen.
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DON SILVA DOWN FOR THE COUNT

by Watchale Monday, Nov. 13, 2006 at 10:53 PM

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To Watchale

by big lie detector Tuesday, Nov. 14, 2006 at 5:58 AM

The entire SOS board is a big lie.

This Maywood event is like the KKK marching through Skokie.
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YOU GOD DAMNED FUCKS!

by Fredric L. Rice Tuesday, Nov. 14, 2006 at 12:37 PM
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Which one of you god damned fucks are burning American flags? Jesus fucking H. Christ, you scumbags who do that don't fucking deserve to live in America.

Man, if I ever caught some mother fucker setting fire to an American flag, I'd fucking cram it up his fucking ass! (Yes, just as disrespectful but _so_ satisfying.)

If you hate America so much, move back to fucking Mexico where you'll find it must better! You can join the uprising and work to depose the current fascist regime like your bothers and sisters are doing even now.

So there.

I've long been a supporter of equal rights for all, whether they're in the United States legally or illegally, gay, straight, black, brown, man, woman... I have always rabidly and vocally opposed to these racist mother fuckers who wave Nazi and Confederate flags all the while proclaiming themselves to be "patriots" and not racist Nazis, and I turned out in support of brown skin and in opposition to the Nazi mother fuckers in Baldwin Park -- TWICE!

But when someone sets fire to _any_ nation's flags, and does it within the very nation that they're venting their hatred in, such behavior needs to be denounced in the strongest of words.

God damn you! GOD DAMN YOU! No fucking mystery about why racist scumbags hate everyone with brown skin just because of the actions of a few -- a few like these who set fire to American flags. If you ever needed to give the white supremacist scumbags of the SOS/MM/Aryan Nations et al. an excuse, THIS IS IT, ya fucking idiot!

My opinions only and only my opinions. Apologies to anyone who is offended by the truth.
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Burn the flags of every nation state

by No borders Tuesday, Nov. 14, 2006 at 12:41 PM

"Flags are bits of colored cloth that governments use first to shrink-wrap people's brains." - Arundhati Roy
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get over your self Rice

by Sheepdog Tuesday, Nov. 14, 2006 at 12:52 PM

Please. As a vet, I have ricked my life to allow this kind of political protest. If I see one of your authoritarian ilk defend a 'F FLAG instead of your brother, you will find yourself facing someone who will do their best to knock your nationalistic dick in the dirt. Stick to cleaning up camps and read some Bill o Rights [ Try the 1st amendment ] and for Pete's sake, calm down before you blow a gasket or loose some teeth.
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Sea of white faces

by Fredric L. Rice Tuesday, Nov. 14, 2006 at 12:55 PM
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I see a lot of fat white Georgia crackers spewing their racist hatred from the safety and protection of the police... Were there _any_ brown faces in among the SOS / MM / Aryan Nations et al. scumbags? Any at all?

My opinions only and only my opinions.
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LOL! Relax, chumly.

by Fredric L. Rice Tuesday, Nov. 14, 2006 at 12:58 PM
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> and for Pete's sake, calm down before you
> blow a gasket or loose some teeth.

Care, now. I'm not quite as annoyed as I pretend to be. }:-} In fact the suggestion that all national flags should be burned if any must be burned. That's actually a very good idea however I'd demand that it's not Nation States that are the enemy of humanity, it's Corporate States.
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Genocide

by Duh Tuesday, Nov. 14, 2006 at 3:20 PM

Fredric supports all the genocide under this flag.
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Legal Observer Report

by NLG Legal Observer Tuesday, Nov. 14, 2006 at 3:44 PM
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On Saturday I was over in Maywood to legal observe a protest against the minutemen. My group and I arrived in Maywood at 9:30am. All was well for the time being, the minutemen had not shown up yet and the maywood police had set up barricades on two sides of the street. We were on Slauson and Pine. The Minutemen were set up west of us also on Slauson. Each barricade was intended to keep the minutemen on one side and we were on the other, about 80-100 yards apart. The police had set up a surveillance spot on top of the grocery store, on the corner directly behind our side (which was not a neutral point of surveillance when you consider the minutemen are over 100 yards away from them on the other side).

At 10am the Minutemen showed up on their side. They had full police escort. The police escorted them into a private parking lot on Slauson for a building called Fallas Y Paredes. The police set up posts in the parking lot to protect the minutemen vehicles, would not allow patrons to go into the business and when several of the renters of the property protested and called tow-trucks, the police refused to let them enter. (I am curious to know under what authority the Maywood Police can do this?)

At about 10:15, a minutemen came over to our side, wearing a bandana on his head with Marijuana leaves on it and black t-shirt. He was passing out Mexican Flags.

(Does anyone know who this is?) When the community discovered he was a minutemen, several young men asked him to leave. He refused to leave. He and another man got into a verbal dispute, and the minuteman started to walk through the barricades to cross back to the minuteman side. Our community member was grabbed from behind the barricades by several police officers and pushed down to the floor and handcuffed.

The minuteman flashed a police badge and was allowed to walk back to the minuteman side. At 12:30pm, my friend who is a photographer and I went over to the Fallas y Parades side of the street to ask the management if they had given the Minutemen permission to park their cars in the driveway. The information above was reiterated by several of the managers there and when I attempted to speak with the police they would not answer my questions. (I urge Maywood residents to call the Maywood Police Department and ask under what law they are allowed to protect the Minuteman, close off a PRIVATE parking lot, and then prevent business owners from exercising control of their own property? (323) 562-5700.) I went back to Slauson and Pine to continue to support the pro-immigrant protestors. At 1:34pm another individual from our side crossed over the barricade. I was sitting over on a sidewalk when I saw the commotion. My friend and I ran over there. I wanted to try and get people behind the barricades and my friend was going to take pictures of the police. This second man was taken down by five police officers and arrested and taken away.


(If you notice in this picture at the very right of the picture there is a heavyset police officer aiming his pellet gun right at the crowd.)

I was yelling at people to get back. I was right behind the barricades motioning people with my hands and screaming for them to get back. A white police officer, with the name badge R. West saw me doing this, came over to me and with both hands pushed me to the floor. I fell back and saw several men come up behind me to defend me. The whole time police were shoving and pushing people back. I got up and continued to ask people to get back. (If anyone has pictures of a woman being pushed down to the floor or the man who was arrested, please forward them to me.)

At 1:45pm another individual from our side crossed the barricade and when I saw him do this I yelled at him to get back. I must have yelled three times when I heard a shot and I saw a blue rubber pellet hit his left side near his abdomen. We all witnessed the man flinch from the pain of being hit. (No warning was given, and there were women and children right behind the protestor. Had this pellet missed him, it could have SERIOUSLY injured a child.) I yelled at him to get back and at this point, six police officers charged him. The protestor ran in the opposite direction. An additional four then followed him. I didn't want to leave the protest site unattended and so my friend ran after the police. There were patrol cars and officers on foot to arrest this man. When they returned to the site, several of the police officers shoved past protestors to get back behind our barricade. Things were very intense at this point and young children were crying.

I took names of witnesses for each incident and gave people my phone number to call me. I feel that the police treated our side as if we were criminals. They were standing facing our side (not the other side) holding batons. They were aiming pellet guns at our side (not the other side).

I would like to file a complaint against the Maywood Police Department. I was attempting to assist them in their work and trying to keep the protestors back from the barricades, I was not crossing the barricade when I was pushed to the floor. If anyone has information on how I should go about doing this it would be greatly appreciated. I have already contacted a few attorneys to inquire if they will assist me.

As I was leaving the protest a woman with her three year old daughter approached me and asked if I was an attorney. She wanted to know if there were going to be more protests and who she could contact to get more involved. She spoke with me for a little while and when she was done her daughter looked up at me and said, I just wanted to ask you if the police are going to kill us. She had tears in her eyes.

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check other article

by anahuac warrior Tuesday, Nov. 14, 2006 at 5:46 PM

nlg, check out the other article, which has a link below this one. in it you will find ther perp's name and possible vocation.
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gloating scumbag

by anahuac warrior Tuesday, Nov. 14, 2006 at 6:21 PM

i guess this scumbag is proud of what he did. he posted this on the sos forums:

Kele, he did exactly the same thing to me when I was on the other side. He spotted me, got in my face (he's trying to grow a beard now ... without a whole lot of success), started the full court press tactics and funneled me toward more of his buddies who also recognized me. I saw familiar poorly dressed characters that have popped up in Laguna Beach, Hollywood and Downtown. I got surrounded and one guy kicked me in the ankle. I dropped the items I was distributing, pushed past the guy separating me from the barricade and went through the barricade. I figured I'd rather get attacked by the cops than have to deal with the goons whacking me around. Surprisingly (to me), when I got near the nearest cop (a few feet past the barricade) he just sort of looked at me. I pulled my SOS button and showed him, he just sort of shrugged, and I walked past. That's when the goons went ape sh** and I heard the commotion behind me. The riot cops all ran past me and started dealing with the misbehaving anchor babies who were having a fit because The White Man had been on their side.

F 'em."
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SOS member arrested

by sappho Tuesday, Nov. 14, 2006 at 6:26 PM
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The SOS member that was passing out Mexico flags to our side & who was later arrested for passing police barricades, goes by the name "Sz in West LA" on the SOS website forum. I have heard his people also refer to him as "Sam". Apparantly he is a lawyer.

Here is a link to an area at the SOS forum where he & other members discuss his arrest & a pic of him being hauled off for his big date in jail.
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Fred Rice - Certified Loon

by Caught Lying Again Tuesday, Nov. 14, 2006 at 6:54 PM

Fred, you are such a putz. You complain about the Mexican Supremacists trashing the US flag and yet they do this at EVERY rally in some capacity. This is no secret and has been going on since day one. YOU have consistently supported these Brown Supremacists and then turn around and pretend to denounce racism. You've got your cranium lodged so far up your ass you'll need major surgery to remove it. Oh, and yeah, It just wasn't a bunch of "fat Georgia crackers" (nice racist remark there, slick) standing with the Americans. We had Blacks, Hispanics and Asians too.

God, you're a dick.
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Unbelievable Video: A sea of white racists

by jorge Tuesday, Nov. 14, 2006 at 6:57 PM

SOS is nothing more than the KKK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc6WH1l50N0&mode=related&search=

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ZISLMAN, SAMUEL, JD, PROFESSOR

by nazis for target practice Tuesday, Nov. 14, 2006 at 7:11 PM

Prof. Zislman received his BA in Sociology from San Jose State University in 1986 and his JD from Tulane University School of Law in 1989. His academic achievements include achieving the Dean’s List, being a member of numerous honor societies, and three-time intra-school moot court competition finalist. Prof. Zislman is currently a sole practioner for Samuel Zislman, Attorney at Law and provides general legal services. Prof. Zislman’s teaching experiences include serving as an Instructor with New Way Academy from 1996-1999, as an Instructor with Pasadena City College in 1997, as an Instructor with Phillips Junior College from 1994-1996, as an Instructor with Lee College from 1997-1999, as a Visiting Instructor with Teikyo University, Hachioji, Japan from 1999-2000, as an Instructor with English Training School from 1999-2002, as a Private Tutor/Behaviorist with Optimum Behavior Services from 2002-2003, as an Instructor with University Language Service in 2003, and as an Instructor with Maric College from 2003-2004. Prof. Zislman has taught a variety of subjects including Bankruptcy, Business Law, Civil Procedure, Computer Office Systems (Excel, PowerPoint, and Word), Constitutional Law, Contracts, Corporations, Criminal Law, English, Family Law, Insurance, Introduction to Legal Assisting, Legal Research, Property, Sociology, Torts, and Wills, Trusts and Estate Planning (Probate), English, ESL, Grade school skills, PSAT (Verbal), SAT I (Verbal), SAT II – Writing, TOEFL, and TOEIC. Prof. Zislman is an active member of the California State Bar.
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More on Sam

by nazis for target practice Tuesday, Nov. 14, 2006 at 8:43 PM

I wouldn't have posted this before the SOSers pulled out the pepper spray and stun guns this weekend, and I really should be going after Weasel and the rest of the white gangsters, but someone here asked about Sam, so here he is.  He can thank his SOS pals that I posted this, and he can thank me that I didn't post everything I've got.  Someone else can take it from here.

Sam also goes by his given name, Samuel Anthony Ziselman, and szinhonshu@hotmail.com

http://www.rateitall.com/SZinHonshu

http://youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=cfnn7wTgoE8&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3Dcfnn7wTgoE8

 

Samuel Anthony Ziselman - #195887

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195887

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Advocacy Center for Special Education
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San Jose State Univ; San Jose CA

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Tulane Univ Law School; New Orleans LA

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6/8/1998

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Only of rightards, chumly

by Fredric L. Rice Wednesday, Nov. 15, 2006 at 11:35 AM
frice@skeptictank.org

> Fredric supports all the genocide under this flag.

Only of rightard traitors, chumly. }:-}

Please choke to death.

Thanks.
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Police went violent of course

by Fredric L. Rice Wednesday, Nov. 15, 2006 at 11:47 AM
frice@skeptictank.org

I see that the police once again committed massive crimes against the citizens, protected from all reprisals from behind their guns. In a polite society, these criminals would have been dragged to the nearest light post, be given a fair trial, and be punished for committing violent assault with deadly weapons against unarmed, non-violent, peaceful citizens.

This comment caught my eye:

> When the community discovered he was a
> minutemen, several young men asked him
> to leave.

White supremacists -- indeed no citizen -- is required to leave when standing or walking on a public sidewalk. (The fact that white supremacists were allowed to try to instigate violence among the anti-hate group is irrelevant.) The white supremacist didn't leave when asked -- and that's perfectly acceptable.

I mention it because the legal observer's report tends to unreasonably indicate that the white supremacist not leaving was some how committing a crime.

In the eyes of these fascist, violent police, of course, brown people who exercise their rights to stand in public spaces are committing crimes -- tresspassing or disturbing the peace or some other god damned Republican claim.

My opinions only and only my opinions.
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Truth in advertizing. LOL!

by Fredric L. Rice Wednesday, Nov. 15, 2006 at 11:59 AM
frice@skeptictank.org

Oh man, the irony of an anonymous coward Republinazi scumbag calling himself "Caught Lying Again." Ah, the delicious irony invokes a chuckle.

> YOU have consistently supported these Brown
> Supremacists and then turn around and pretend
> to denounce racism.

You might have notice, ya fucking scumbag pile of Republican shit, that not once has any of your hated enemies ever stood on street corners waving Nazi and Confederate flags like you white piles of Republinazi shit do. Not one of them call for the extermination of your "Master Race."

I don't agree with open borders. I don't agree with illegal immigration, nor do I agree that the United States should allow _legal_ immigration any more. We're full up. Way past capacity.

And of course I don't agree with the suggestions and demands that all us honkey mother fuckers move back to Europe from where we came from.

But in weighing you god damned Nazi mother fucker clowns in the balance against the people you victimize and the things they advocate that I don't support, you god damned piles of Republican shit are far, far worse.

Without a doubt there are small groups of Latin and South American individuals in the United State who advocate the same things you white supremacist scumbags do -- the other side of the same Christian racist coin. Overwhelmingly, however, your victims only want to live and work, feed themselves and their families, just like you do.

I don't like the fact that they're here one bit, but the fact is that they're here and they're going to keep coming here. The fact is that the brown skin you hate is out breeding your white skin and North America is eventually going to be all brown, and you clowns standing on sidewalks screaming your hate isn't going to stop it.

But what you clowns advocate is far worse than what they do.

Hope the truth makes ya shit yourself and choke on it. (No offence, I'm sure.)

My opinions only and only my opinions.
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Another Republinazi Scumbag exposed

by Fredric L. Rice Wednesday, Nov. 15, 2006 at 12:09 PM
frice@skeptictank.org

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/local/16005664.htm

Here we have another SOS / MM / Aryan Nations et al. scumbag Republinazi, this pile of shit proclaiming that abortions are caused by illegal immigration -- or maybe illegal immigration is caused by abortions.

God damned Republishits!

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/local/16005664.htm

My opinions only and only my opinions.
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with the conservatives

by V Wednesday, Nov. 15, 2006 at 6:20 PM

Joe Turner still works with a republican asemble member in San Bernadino. Majority of them have voted for Bush for the first election. When I went to oppose SOS for the first time, some of them had Bush's placard and Bush bumper stickers. They recently supported Tan Ngyen for the OC congressional race. Also, they supported Dick Mountjoy too.
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what is the process of getting a lawyer disbarred?

by BaBaBooey! Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006 at 12:37 PM

the CBA should kick Zislman to the curb for participating in a neo-nazi organization
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So whats the story here

by Just can't figure it out Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006 at 2:34 PM

So whats the story here? Both sides claim the other side is racists. I actually believe both sides are racsists. To me this is not a debate that has to go to the extremes to prove one side is right and one side is wrong. If that were the case, I think both sides should meet in the desert and go at it. This would never happen and would solve nothing.and you all would still hate each other.

Where I differ on the issue is fairness. What is the fare thing to do. I have both liberal and conservative views on illegal immigration so where does that leave the average citizen on this issue.

I guess we are at an area of polarization. You have to pick sides. How do you do that? You certainly gain no rational perspectives from visiting websites like this or for that matter, any website. Everyone has an agenda. Does there have to be a right and wrong over this issue? If there has to be a right and wrong on this issue I guess I would tend to lean toward the anti-illegal immigrant movement.

Why you may ask ? I guess it comes down to the law. You either respect and abide by it or you don't. It wouldn't be prudent for any citizen to pick and choose what laws to enforce and what laws to ignore. If we engage in this then we effectively leave ourselves open for tyrany and opression. We lose the very freedom that gives you all the right to protest and the right to counter protest. We become the servants of the master.

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get a clue

by BaBaBooey! Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006 at 3:12 PM

>>>"So whats the story here? Both sides claim the other side is racists."

only one side has waved nazi flags and confederate flags in public: the SOS/MMP.

this article makes the connection clearly

http://whpsocal.blogspot.com/2005/08/where-did-these-guys-come-from.html
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SZ today

by nazis for target practice Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006 at 7:25 PM

Here's just one guy (our friend Sam) on the SOS board in the past couple of days. You tell me who the racists are.

on the "maywood 2-video 11-11-06" thread:

"I dropped the items I was distributing, pushed past the guy separating me from the barricade and went through the barricade. I figured I'd rather get attacked by the cops than have to deal with the goons whacking me around. Surprisingly (to me), when I got near the nearest cop (a few feet past the barricade) he just sort of looked at me. I pulled my SOS button and showed him, he just sort of shrugged, and I walked past. That's when the goons went ape sh** and I heard the commotion behind me. The riot cops all ran past me and started dealing with the misbehaving anchor babies who were having a fit because The White Man had been on their side."
http://www.saveourstate.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19023&hl=

on the SOS thread "Ghetto Chicanas in Maywood get hostile":

"Do larger society a service and perform hysterectomies. Just take them out of the gene pool.

"Why, why, why does God allow some people to reproduce?"
http://www.saveourstate.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19038&hl=

btw, I see no one's Doug up anything on Wease, I mean Weasel, the stun gunner in Canoga Park. He's looking at a $30K bail--what's that, assault with a deadly weapon?
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Weasel Is Easy

by to call a racist Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006 at 7:56 PM

Here is the link to a video from SOS's Canoga Park rally. In this video you see the Weasel attacking a young boy. http://idawg.com/ap77/Canoga111206Part1a.wmv (the file is about 50megs and will take a while to download)
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False Nazi Allegations

by Ya Basta Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006 at 9:22 PM

In fairness to SOS. The Neo-nazis who showed up in Laguna last year were not affilated with SOS. In fact, SOS denounced them openly on their forums. The Neo-nazis were stormfronters who thought they could ride SOS's coattails. It didn't go over well. As soon as the nazis showed up SOS left. If you check the boards about that incident you will clearly see that there is no relationship between nazis and SOS. Its just a leftist propaganda trick to sell you the idea that secure border activists are racist. Bunch of hooey. Notice that the nazis never showed up at another rally again.
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Nazis choose to stand with SOS

by SOS=KKK Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006 at 9:57 PM

The point is: Who did the Nazis choose to stand with? SOS or the day laborers and their supporters?

The fact is that the Nazis stood with the SOS. And the SOS did not tell them to go away or challenge them. In fact SOS stood there with them and there are photos to prove this.

See this link: http://www.la.indymedia.org/archives/archive_by_id.php?id=852&category_id=3
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Nazis choose to stand with SOS

by SOS=KKK Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006 at 10:00 PM

The point is: Who did the Nazis choose to stand with? SOS or the day laborers and their supporters?

The fact is that the Nazis stood with the SOS. And the SOS did not tell them to go away or challenge them. In fact SOS stood there with them and there are photos to prove this.

See this link: http://www.la.indymedia.org/archives/archive_by_id.php?id=852&category_id=3
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SOS

by V Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006 at 11:54 PM

it is not only laguna beach the neonazi stood with SOS. They stood with them in Baldwin Park, Victorvile, glendale, burbank, garden grove, etc. SOS even went to a neonazi sponsored protest at Victorvile.
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neonazisos

by V Friday, Nov. 17, 2006 at 10:47 AM

neonazisos...
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part1
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neonazisos

by V Friday, Nov. 17, 2006 at 10:58 AM

neonazisos...
neonazisos.jpg, image/jpeg, 600x400

this rally was in baldwin park where sos stood with neonazi. the neonazi held the banner "stop immigration." SOS didnt tell them go away at baldwin park. and SOS are ok with a banner. no if but about it. This event was before the neonazi rose there flag in laguna beach.
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Ms

by Sharmaine Lopez Saturday, Nov. 18, 2006 at 12:11 PM
sharmaine@wi.rr.com

Illegal immigration is not the American way why there illegal fight us in our own country and the law helps them proves some of our leaders in the senat support illegal immigration we need to put a stop to it they are killing the us and on CNN Lou Dobbs every night he has storys on this every day thank god for lou dobbs there illegal try calling us races what it is them they are the first ones to say it they are layers and cheeters and have on respect for us or our laws and country they need a one way tick to mexico then can help there own fight there goverment and change there country
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ms

by p. mcmillan Sunday, Nov. 19, 2006 at 11:54 AM
, monrovia

Leslie Radford: It seems to me when you work for the media you should be FAIR and also have FACTS included in your story, not just your opinion or partial lies. Parts of your article that I have problems with include you saying SOS routinely hassles day laborers, you called the Sensenbrenner bill heinous, you called us "white bangers", you called the illegals 250 PEACEFUL residents & supporters, you didn't bother to mention why that one guy had his shirt pulled over his head when he was being led away (he was spitting at us) PLUS our people didn't just start pepper spraying & tazering shoppers after the protest-we were taunted & one of THEM reached for someone's camera & so he got it! What's in it for you to write biased stories like this? What's in it for ME is that I simply love my country which is being overrun by illegals & it's changing the quality of our (Americans') lives. How about getting the facts straight before you write another one of your very biased articles (?) Don't you love this country & if not, why are you here???
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Disband the Maywood Pig Dept

by BaBabooey! Sunday, Nov. 19, 2006 at 2:22 PM

for their collaboration with the neo-nazis. The L.A. Sheriff's dept can be contracted out to patrol Maywood (the city of West Hollywood does this)
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Just the facts

by Leslie Monday, Nov. 20, 2006 at 10:24 AM

To p. mcmillan--

What you object to *are* the facts. You may not like me pointing to them, or that I call a banger a banger, but are you really denying that SOS routinely hassles day laborers? Cripes, it's just about all they do! Except when they invade small cities to overturn the democracy there.

And now they march into shopping centers and taunt, air horn (an infant in arms), pepper spray, and stun gun shoppers.

What's in it for me? That's your real question, isn't it? It's not about facts at all--I've got plenty of them. Your question is really, "How can a "nice" white woman be so mean to (or honest about) her own?" My answer--check your premises. When you do, you'll realize you ain't seen nothing yet, as the old song goes.
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Unfortunate

by notice Monday, Nov. 20, 2006 at 11:02 AM

The forces that criminalize the refugees.
Do they DARE to go to the figures of wealth that promote the grinding exploitation that drove them away from their home? Do they support the indigenous Mexican revolution in Ox?
Did they scream about our dead IMC camera man?

one big
no
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reply

by Jammer CC Monday, Nov. 20, 2006 at 2:44 PM

Those photos of early SOS/Nazi rallies are photos I wish I saw before I got mixed in all this. The little piece of the puzzle I can bring here is that, like I have said before, former and I guess current again SOS member Debbie Sattler told me herself that Joe Turner let the Nazis rally with them. She told me in September 24th of last year in Gilchrist headquarters.
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haha

by mike almeida Monday, Nov. 20, 2006 at 2:53 PM

the above pic is hilarious. if the SOS were ok with the nazis there, why are the nazis in there own little corner on the other side of the street?
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Jim Gilchrist for President

by LOL Monday, Nov. 20, 2006 at 6:59 PM

Heard and saw signs in Lagoona, that Jim G might be running for President in 2008!!!
I hope so!!
Bye bye illegals!!!
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Weasel

by nazis for target practice Monday, Nov. 20, 2006 at 7:26 PM

Weasel...
weasel3.jpg, image/jpeg, 200x318

is the guy who went off in Canoga Park last Sunday, zapping his tazer at day laborers until the cops took him away.  Weasel has a real anger management problem, the kind that comes from hidden secrets.  Know this picture.

He's Charles Douglas (Doug) Fenn, 43 (maybe 44 by now), assistant planner for the City of Rancho Cucamonga.  He goes by Weasel and Wease.  He, too, owes me for what I haven't posted.

My favorite Weasel quotes:

"I have family that lives in Mexico and fortunately for Mexico the Jews are the upper class which actually helps their economy, and I bet money that the six are Jews. The only problem is that there are not enough Jews in Mexico."

  "I love the smell of "napalm" in the morning."

"Having lived in the Middle East for ten years I am more concerned about the insidious belief of Islam. When of the reasons I volunteer at the border is to help catch an Arab Hammas bitch from coming into this Country. I'll defend a country with strong Christian ties than over an intolerant Islamic state. There is a war on the western culture that has just begun."


Wrightwood man accused of deliberately running over Caltrans worker’s foot on Hwy 138

A Wrightwood man is accused of deliberately running over a Caltrans worker’s foot with his car, in an apparent case of “road rage” on Highway 138 Monday evening. Charles Fenn was arrested on “suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon.” Fortunately, the flagman, Todd Sanders, suffered only minor injuries. Several Caltrans workers have been threatened by drivers, upset with the delays caused by a construction project on Highway 138.

News Article - K-FROG 95.1 FM

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Get your facts straight

by Maria Monday, Nov. 20, 2006 at 7:42 PM

That is not Weasel in the picture. Morons!
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Sam

by V Monday, Nov. 20, 2006 at 8:05 PM

that is sam who got arrested in Maywood.
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Jim Gilchrist for President?

by CommonTator Monday, Nov. 20, 2006 at 8:42 PM

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Little man have a Napoleon complex.
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you are one sick person if you think what you printed was worth a read

by GrammyPatriot Tuesday, Dec. 05, 2006 at 7:07 PM

you are so far off the page you need to look at the reason the people from all over California were there.
By the way, I counted 173 Patriots there in Maywood that WAS MY HOMETOWN! NOW RUINED IN IMAGE AND CULTURE.
You seem to have a side all picked out on where you stand.

The pictures you choose I will be sending to our governor my senator the Homeland security, the President the first lady Polloi and on and on. You will be famous! Thanks so much for the close ups of all the criminals and illegal's that are marching against Americans.

I would be embarrassed if I was you, unless you are a communist and it was OK with you that Maywood didn't even fly a flag for Veteran's Day!
Funny how you kind of missed that. Oh of coarse that kind of thing is not thought of right> hmmm.
Again thanks for showing our government what mentality and signs that were held. GOOD JOB.
Shame on you and shame on the devil's head that runs my home town.
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correction

by nazis for target practice Tuesday, Dec. 05, 2006 at 7:10 PM

Grammy now hails from Chino Hills, where I hope she is happier than she was in Maywood after the Carls Jr got replaced by a Campos Tacos.

Talk about ruining her culture!
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MIKE ALMEIDA: I would LOVE to see the look on your boss' face at Jay Nolan...

by zionazis 4 target practice Thursday, Dec. 07, 2006 at 1:28 PM

Community Services-Autistic Kids Program after I send him/her those pix of those confederate/nazi flag wavers and indicate YOU are a member of that group!
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SchtarkerYid

by Racism oozes out here Thursday, Dec. 07, 2006 at 2:31 PM

The racism just oozes out here even on other issue threads
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To: MIKE ALMEIDA

by V Thursday, Dec. 07, 2006 at 4:22 PM

On the first pic, I posted the SOS/neonnazi were on the same side. can u recognize the black shirts and the banner? I guess you cant make it out. right mikey. and the second pic was the neonazi showed up at the corner first. u didnt go mikey. i did. I can pull up more pictures mikey.
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go home

by mike Thursday, Dec. 07, 2006 at 10:20 PM
far-home@hotmail.com 323 555 5555 los angeles`

My coment is that I work around imigrants in constrution. And people say white people wont do that kind of work. I say we do. The guys I know speak english. That works for me. Not understanding one another is a problem in L.a..
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I am ashamed

by Jonathan M. Friday, Feb. 09, 2007 at 11:28 AM

as a mexican american....I am disguisted that you would actually place these pictures on you website and expect people to give you amnesty after burning our flag. My parent's who come from mexico taught me to love this country not to show hatred towards it.
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