Cheney loses election after insulting voters by saying, "It doesn't matter what they say about the war or anything else because we will continue to do what we like whether right or wrong ... We're not running for office, we’re just trying to stay out of jail."

With no intention of running for it , Cheney is seeking to stop impeachment of Bush and criminal charges against himself and Rumy for their many crimes while in office.

"The choice before the American people is becoming more clear every day," Cheney said. "For the sake of the security of Rumy and myself, this nation must reject any proper and sensible strategy on anything and vote us back in control of Congress."

Take heed...

Diebold will come to the rescue. They can't loose.

.....have you got yours?

Diebold, the only way the right wing whack jobs can win at this point.

Yea,well the reason I posted that is because I knew some moonbat on here would take it seriously....goes along rather nicely with the Democrat meme of "If we don't win then you cheated" doesnt it?

As long as you subscribe tyo the Dem/Repub nonsense you are doomed to simplicity. There is no doubt among critically thinking people who've studied the isse that the republicans stole 2000 prez election, but if you think that I am a democrap you are sorely mistaken and I wouldn't put it past them to cheat/lie/steal as much as the republicans if they could get away w/ it. They are both parties 'by and for the corporations'--not the people.

obviously he doesn't know anything about Diebold

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/



http://www.blackboxvoting.org/BBVtsxstudy.pdf



Diebold Plans To Eliminate Evidence

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0405/S00217.htm



Slashdot | Feds to Open BlackBoxVoting User Logs?



http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/05/20/012257.shtml?tid=126&tid=172&tid=95





Slashdot | Blackboxvoting.org Raises Vote-Audit FOIA Request



http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/03/1815227



CNN Story - Republicans blocked exit polling in Ohio, SoCal

And we are not kidding.

...if computer tabulated election results in Venezuela are good enough for Jimmah Carter, then you got no complaint about the same thing here in the US

And there was regional counts with a verified chain of custody.

With exit polls. Unlike this soon to be stolen election.

You mean like the 'exit polls' that all showed Kerry winning going away in 2004?

We thought that the exit polls were a mark of fraud during the 'orange revolution' but not here were there is so much freedumb.

Analysis of the polling data vs actual data and voting systems supports the hypothesis that evoting may be to blame in the discrepancies. Nevada has evoting but with verified receipts. In that state the Exit Polling matches the actual results within .1% accuracy. However for other swing states Bush has unexplainable leads.

I'm still compiling data. Please help me determine what voting methods are being used in swing states and which are evoting without audit trails. Post your data under the individual state responses below.

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Kerry is well ahead in exit polls, but still losing the counts. WTH is going on?

Kerry is well ahead in Exit Polling in Ohio. We're being screwed.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/OH/P/00/index.html

Male: 51/49 Kerry 47%

Female: 53/47 Kerry 53%

Dem: 91/8 Kerry 38%

Rep: 94/6 Bush 37%

Ind: 60/39 Kerry 24%



Here is exit polling for Florida (3,824,794 votes for Kerry & Bush)

hhttp://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/FL/P/00/index.html

Male: 52/47 Kerry 46%

Female: 52/48 Kerry 54%

Dem: 86/13 Kerry 38%

Rep: 92/7 Bush 39%

Ind: 60/38 Kerry 23%

3,824,794 votes for Kerry & Bush

2065388 Women (54% of total)

1759405 Men (46% of total)

Bush leads male vote by 5% of M = 87970

Kerry leads female vote by 4% of M = 82615

That means Bush is ahead by just 5355 votes in exit polling in FL.

Another odd thing is that there are more Reps then Dems in Florida by 1%, which is not expected. Either there are more voting Republicans in FL than Democrats, a first and not matching known statistics, or more Republicans were exit polled than Democrats. If the exit poll is off by just 1% that's a difference of 382479 more voters who are Democracts.

The results being posted however show Bush ahead 326,000 actual votes. This is simply not possible from the exit polling numbers. Even skewed for a 5% higher Republican vs. Democrat turnout from 2000, it doesn't add up.



WISCONSIN:

Kerry leads Female voters by 7%, Bush leads male voters by 7%. Male vs. Female voter turnout is 47% M, 53% F. That means Kerry statistically has a 7% edge in exit polling in Wisconsin.

Actual results however show Bush ahead by 1%, an unexplained difference of 8%.

NEVADA:

Just checked, same pattern. Kerry leads in the exit polls by a clear margin, but is still behind in the reported results. This state is even closer. Actual is just 1% favor of Bush. Exit polls show Kerry with a wider margin. Women favored Kerry by 8% here out of 52% of total voters. Men favored Bush by just 6% out of 48% of total voters. Actual reported results don't match exit polling AT ALL in Nevada.

*** KERRY leads by 1.3% in exit polls in NV ***



Can someone determine what percentage of precincts are DIEBOLD or electronic voting machines in these swing states? Of those compare the expected voting results from Male vs. Female against the results reported by electronic vs. non-electronic voting places.

My HYPOTHESIS is we will find a discrepancy in the electronic systems vs. the exit polls and the non-electronic systems.

Kerry up 2 among men, up 6 among women.

Now Kerry is suddenly down 5 among men, tied among women

We should expect 2006 to be different.? These dudes don't know any other way to 'win'.

I'll explain it for all of those whose brains have been paralyzed by their own creeping paranoia....all the exit polls erroneously showed Kerry winning for a very obvious and well known reason.....the actual number of Democrat voters who actually go to the polls to vote on election day is higher than the number of Republicans because more Republicans have already voted early or absentee....thus the polling sample of voters questioned by the exit pollers is naturally going to be skewed toward the Democrats....and this assumes no bias or dishonesty etc by the exit pollers themselves....the Dems got chumped by their own meme when they started whining about how exit polls showing Kerry ahead meant he actually won.....

Perhaps, after a half-century of fine-tuning exit polling to such a science that it's now used to verify if elections are clean in Third World countries, it really did suddenly become inaccurate in the United States in the past few years and just won't work here anymore. Perhaps it's just a coincidence that the sudden rise of inaccurate exit polls happened around the same time corporate-programmed, computer-controlled, modem-capable voting machines began recording and tabulating ballots.

As the Washington Post noted in a January 20, 2005 article by Richard Morin and Claudia Deane ("Report Acknowledges Inaccuracies in 2004 Exit Polls"):

"But 'there were 26 states in which the estimates produced by the exit poll data overstated the vote for John Kerry....' said Joe Lenski of Edison Media Research and Warren Mitofsky of Mitofsky International.

"Throughout election night, the national exit poll showed the Massachusetts senator leading President Bush by 51 percent to 48 percent. But when all the votes were counted, it was Bush who won by slightly less than three percentage points."

Mitofsky and Edison's work also showed that Ohio was one of the states where the discrepancies between the official tabulation and the exit polls were most noticeable. The Washington Post noted: "At the request of the media sponsors, Mitofsky and Lenski are continuing to examine exit polling in Ohio and Pennsylvania, two critical battleground states where the poll results were off."

When four attorneys in Ohio sued that state to discover details of how voting was conducted in that state, they report they were slapped with a massive and expensive lawsuit engineered by the State of Ohio's Secretary of State, Ken Blackwell (also co-chair of the Ohio Bush For President campaign) and Ohio Attorney General, Republican Jim Petro.



Oddly, though, as statistics experts Steven Freeman and Josh Mittledorf noted in an article for In These Times, analyzing the data provided by exit polling companies Mitofsky and Edison, "only in precincts that used old-fashioned, hand-counted paper ballots did the official count and the exit polls fall within the normal sampling margin of error." In those places where computers were used to count the vote, oddly the exit polls showed Kerry winning but the voting machines had Bush winning.



Thus, say these two university experts: "The exit polls themselves are a strong indicator of a corrupted election."

This analysis comes just as Bev Harris' organization www.blackboxvoting.org provided testimony to the House Judiciary Committee, as reported on their website:

"In mid-February, Black Box Voting, together with computer experts and videographers, under the supervision of appropriate officials, proved that a real Diebold system can be hacked.

"This was not theoretical or a 'potential' vulnerability. Votes were hacked on a real system in a real location using the actual setup used on Election Day, Nov. 2, 2004.

"In October, Black Box Voting published an article on this Web site about remote access into the Diebold system. After examining the Diebold software and related internal e-mails, local security professionals were able to demonstrate a hack into a simulated system.

"In February, we were allowed to try various hacking techniques into a real election system. To our surprise, the method used in our October simulation did not work.

"However, another method did work. The hack that did work was unsophisticated enough that many high school students would be able to achieve it. This hack altered the election by 100,000 votes, leaving no trace at all in the central tabulator program. It did not appear in any audit log. The hack could have been executed in the November 2004 election by just one person.

"This hack stunned the officials who were observing the test. It calls into question the results of as many as 40 million votes in 30 states.





Computer programmer Clinton Curtis charged, in a sworn affidavit before a U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary Committee investigation in Ohio, that Republican Congressman Tom Feeney of Florida participated in hiring Curtis to write "undetectable" (when compiled) voting-machine-rigging software. Republicans in the House have also blocked efforts to investigate this and other charges made during hearing held in Ohio by Congressman John Conyers.

In precincts that used old-fashioned, hand-counted paper ballots the official count and the exit polls matched within .1 %

BUT in those places where computers were used to count the vote, the exit polls showed Kerry winning but the voting machines had Bush winning by 5 to 8 %



SO according to Robin's explaination, Republicans only cast early & absentee ballots in areas where electronic voting machines were used but no Republicans AT ALL did so in areas where old-fashioned, hand-counted paper ballots were used.

Somehow all the Republicans knew well in advance all the areas where all the electronic voting machines would be used - and only cast early & absentee ballots in such areas..

And all the areas where old-fashioned, hand-counted paper ballots were used so that *none* of the Republicans cast early & absentee ballots in those places.



And CNN changed the exit poll numbers *in the middle of the night long after the polls had closed* to match the electronic voting machine numbers *for no reason*

So now hex thinks that CNN was in the tank for GW....lovely....what he fails to mention is that most of the target precincts that were eventually reported as showing Kerry winning were solid Democrat precincts to begin with....and I havent even begun to factor in bias on the part of the exit pollers and what their methodology was for determining who was asked how they voted and who wasnt asked...nor have I mentioned the fact that some people are going to lie to pollsters about how they voted just to be contrary....nor have I mentioned that a lot of conservative and GOP voters arent going to be as naturally effusive and eager to share how they voted as libs and Dems who seem to be genetically predisposed to so just that......simply too many unfactored variables in the 2004 exit polls to consider them valid....and those who put their faith in them built their electoral house on a base of sand

I showed actual sceen captures of what CNN did..

And data & quotes of actual experts who actually looked into the fraud

Plus the people of BlackBox Voting who demonstrated several times in several ways how the machines can be easily hacked - it was even shown on a show on TV - the votes where changed right in front of your eyes in seconds

You have cited nothing, quoted no one and the weak explaination you offered is bogus - as I pointed out



But you can be counted on to argue anyway -

what else can you do if not run your mouth ?

It sure would be nice to have the people's will carried out. That hasn't happened since the 2000 election swindle was pulled. And since we as a people didn't take the streets then, this only showed that all the fluoride in the water has done its job and has pacified the herds of farm animals.

Sea water has twice as much fluorine as what's added to some people's drinking water

Sea salt

seaweed

SEA FOOD

also some natural wells (untreated locally drawn water) have up to 10 times more fluorine due to rock deposits in the area like calcium fluoride, etc

fluoride +death +camps

And you'll see for yourself that it wasn't Jack T. Ripper paranoia.

Although, maybe he needed some.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/11/348728.shtml

-In the 2000 election, it was only through a combination of Jim Crow vote suppression tactics and a rich array of different methods of vote-count fraud that George W. Bush was able to arrive at a point at which his father's Supreme Court appointees could push through what has been appropriately described as a judicial coup d'état. His party won control of the Senate in 2002 through what was almost certainly vote-tabulation fraud.3 The 2004 presidential election was marked by fraud on a gigantic scale, not just in Ohio, which ended up being the deciding state, but in many other states as well: by January 2005 there was compelling evidence to show that had the votes been honestly counted, John Kerry would have defeated Bush by a commanding margin.-

Much thanks to Portland

Yea - much thanks to portland imc:
1) for stifling pre-election activism whilst featuring chemtrails
2) for permitting the wailing and gnashing of teeth and hand-wringing and infighting post facto
3) for killing hope
and
4) for ensuring that my posts are intercepted and don't reach even the compost.

anyone who passed even basic grade school science knows this :)

the measurements don't lie though flakes on the internet do

Sea water DOES contain twice the fluorine

Sea salt has a bunch of it in it (concentrated) - people eat sea salt as a healthy alternative to regular mined salt...

Seaweed is quite salty and also has a lot of fluorine in it - typically it's encrusted with sea salt...

All seafood has fluorine in it too, fish, clams, lobster, shrimp, etc , etc



and some people's wells have very high (compared to fluorination) levels due to natural geological features

I suppose they are "super mind controlled" then :)

Wasn't this the guy who equated DU contamination to 'lead in a battery'?

Too much flouride certainly makes bones and teeth brittle. Fluorine is higly reactive, corrosive and toxic.

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts11.html

Fluorine is a gas.

HF is a liquid.

Fluoride is the basis of anti depressants.

Fluoride +death +camps

is a search criteria.

'nuf said.

I believe that the compound used in flouridation is in fact stannous flouride. a compound of tin

If the 'Lord' says it that must mean that the israeli lobby and their team of psychopaths needs to have Americans sedated and compliant,

Look it up.

Fluoride +death +camps

And he doesn't want to deal with it except to divert distract and dribble.

With asinine graphics, again, no less.

Yes there is historical evidence that the nazis used stannous fluoride to pacify the death camps.

Why is 'hex' gate keeping this as well as DU?

Using double, triple and quintuple spacing no less.

A study funded by the US government has concluded that conservatism can be explained psychologically as a set of neuroses rooted in "fear and aggression, dogmatism and the intolerance of ambiguity".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1017546,00.html

just testing please ignore