BEIT HANUN, Gaza Strip — In what was called by Washington as "self-defense," Israel continued on Saturday, November4 , its campaign of deadly air strikes in the Gaza Strip, killing four more Palestinians, taking to 39 those killed since its latest operation began four days ago.

Early Saturday an Israeli aircraft fired a missile at a car traveling through Gaza City carrying a local official in the military wing of the resistance movement Hamas Ezzedine Al-Qassam Brigades, killing him and wounding four others, a medical source told Agence France-Presse (AFP ).

In nearby Jabaliya, five members of Qassam Brigades were wounded by artillery fire. One of them, Raed Siam,30 , then died of his wounds in hospital.

Two people were also killed in the northern town of Beit Hanun, which has borne the brunt of the Israeli operation since it began on Wednesday morning, November1 .

Nineteen Palestinians were killed Friday, November 3 , in the deadliest day in the Gaza Strip for months, as Israel stepped up the Autumn Clouds offensive to stop missiles launched by Palestinian fighters at its territory.

The raids came just hours after resistance fighters escaped a besieged mosque in a daring rescue bid mounted by hundreds of mothers and wives in the northern Gaza town of Beit Hanun, which Israeli troops have been occupying since Wednesday.

Four protestors, including two women, were killed ahead of the rescue of the resistance fighters who had been besieged in the Al-Nasr mosque, seeking protection from one of the biggest Israeli operations of recent months.

Braving Israeli gunfire and tanks, around 200 women marched on and entered the mosque to collect the gunmen, before walking out, shielding them in the midst of their heavily veiled ranks, protecting them from Israeli gunfire.

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amil Mattar* seeks an end to the morally corrosive guilt that infects international relations



"There have been plenty of words of condemnation of suicide bombers but few on the Israeli attacks on Gaza, in particular the attacks on civilian installations," MP Andrew Turner told a panel on the Palestinian question and the war against Lebanon.

"Indeed, they [UK parliamentarians] blamed Hizbullah and the seizing of two soldiers for the conflict in Lebanon and for Israel's reaction to the seizing of those soldiers." In contrast, "Human Rights Watch condemns both sides pretty unequivocally for breaches of international law and of internationally recognised human rights. It condemns Hizbullah for taking hostages and using the soldiers as pawns to negotiate the release of prisoners held in Israel... and it condemns Israel over the lawlessness of its attacks on South Lebanon, for the extraordinarily high level of civilian casualties that followed."

"Those were the tactics of the Nazis in 1939 and 1940 -- attacking fleeing civilians from the air," he added.

Jews in the House of Commons and throughout Britain were deeply offended and demanded an apology from the MP for comparing Israel defending itself with the Nazi Holocaust. The head of the Conservative Party asked Turner to apologise, which he did. Israeli leaders, and Zionist leaders in Britain, went away satisfied; they had benefited considerably.

The whole incident provided an opportunity to remind the British public, and the wider world, of the holocaust, which is a permanent feature of the agenda of Israeli leaders and Zionist lobbyists abroad. The incident also proved a gift to Israel and British Jews since, in asking a member of his party to apologise, the Conservative leader landed exactly where Israel and British Jews want him. Henceforth, whenever his party so much as thinks of criticising Israel they will be able to remind him that it has anti-Semites in its ranks.

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"Braving Israeli gunfire and tanks, around 200 women marched on and entered the mosque to collect the gunmen, before walking out, shielding them in the midst of their heavily veiled ranks, protecting them from Israeli gunfire."

Amazing! This is the stuff of immortal folk songs

The IDF closes in like ravening wolves on Palestinians trapped in a mosque, men fighting an invading army ON THEIR OWN TURF (I'd invoke examples of Jews doing the same during WWII, except there AREN'T ANY), and for you this is an example PALESTINIAN violence?? You're such a despicable racist pig! Fuck off. Nobody cares what you think.

How nearly the entire self-critique of Jewish bigotry has come from men? Noam Chomsky, Mordecai Vanunu, Victor Ostrovsky, Norm Finkelstein, Israel Shahak, Dennis Bernstein, Ralph Schoenmann, Gilad Atzmon, Israel Shamir, Uri Avnery, Ilan Pappe...

While the majority of bloodthirsty pro-Israel haters around here are women!

It's VERY interesting

> While the majority of bloodthirsty pro-Israel haters around here are women!



well you can't go by just here - even though it just happens that my "pet Zionist" on another forum WHICH DOESN'T HIDE POSTS is a woman too :)

the deal is that male Zionists get either banned quicker or move on when they see too many posts get hidden - a personal pride thing, or maybe they just see the futility of it easyer...

(the female Zionists have less shame it seems)

fresca claims to be male BTW (or at least used to)

but consider this too - they can always play the "woman hater" card HERE and due to the presence of a person with his cranium up their collective posteriors they often gain an advantage when they do.

that grants them at least some power which encourages them to stick around a bit more..



look at all the IMC's and *see which ones/how many have the special category "Womyn"*

that explains much :)

but consider this too - they can always play the "woman hater" card HERE

I only do it when its appropriate: What would you call this startling juxtiposition of sex and violence? Do you think he would have responded this way to a male commentator?

Hey Eliza

by TW Saturday, May. 13, 2006 at 8:23 AM



I suggest you suck my balls dry. There's full sense behind everything I've said. Try me. C'mon, let's get into it. I wanna hear your bones snapping and your warbling screams.

Why don't you scold him in private chat line?

Tia's quote, "in the time-honored Islamic tradition of avoiding the consequences of their actions"

Wow. I wonder what Tia's reaction would be if the same was said about Judaism...lemme guess.

Once again, the inherent bigotry of zionism rears its ugly head.

Kinda like when Mel Gibson let his comments slip, huh?

"Why don't you scold him in private chat line?"

You think I should tell him what a naughty, naughty boy he's been? I think he knows.

Hizbollah has trained Hamas in creating a win win situation, based on lack of respect for human life. Use women and children as shields- if they are killed, leak the photo to your shills at Indymedia- they can cry about civilian deaths. And if the Israelis refuses to fire on women and children-- there now, you achieved a workable strategy, haven't you?

The Nazis would have just mowed down the women, btw. You know that.

It just looks to me as if anywhere the IDF shoo,t it is the just target.

israel can never admit any wrong.

Ever.

They are always justified, no matter how many or who they slaughter.

Show us the buss again or your staged terrorists photo ops.

Anything to avoid the truth.

Two hate-fuelled racist comments here stand out like white phosporous in Lebanon - or a metal fire in Manhattan:

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Women as shields . How original
by Tia
And men dressing as women, in the time-honored
Islamic tradition of avoiding the consequences of their actions.
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Silver Lining Dept.
by Lord Locksley Saturday, Nov. 04, 2006 at 2:35 PM
Look at it this way.... every Palestinian woman who is 'correctly' used as a body shield equals one less womb to produce X little suicide bombers.....works for me
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What happpened to the less warlike image?
Didn't you get the memo?

In Deir Yassin, the Iraqi soldiers dressed in womens garb and fired on the Israelis. Just last week, a kidnapped photographer in Gaza was dressed in womens clothing to disguise him during transportation. And this week, gunmen disguised as women are smuggled out of a mosque. I suspect we are going to see the casualty rates among Palestinian women go up as Israeli soldiers learn that things aren't always what they seem.

You didn't address any of the content of my post, Tia.

Nice links. Thanks for the search. Blows a few large holes into the usual scree we see from son o AIPAC.

The letter signed by Einstein was published in the New York Times , Becky J.

Until you admit that fact, you have no right to expect anyone to read a single word of your shameless victim-blaming lies.
I certainly won't.

What we've got here Hex, is another anti-Zionist attempt to change the subject- to baffling enough- something that happened 60 years ago. Divert Distract, Deflect.....

And those old propaganda photos- I've asked before- why does the car change color in the last photo? And why do the uniforms change color? No one was able to answer that last time, either. And whats a "Plastinian", anyway? This series lacks credibility, sweetheart. Thank you for playing. Please try again soon.

> we've got here Hex / attempt to change the subject / something that happened 60 years ago.



all I mentioned was the gender issue in reply to TW

something that happened 60 years ago ? well TW was born 60 years ago I guess :)

and look - Zionists are lecturing about credibility :)

hahahahahaaa :)

thanks for the sunday morning laugh - I needed that - it's raining here :)

Geez. - how'd you miss the photos and misspellings spammed above?

None so blind as those who will not see, I suppose.

You are still ignoring the referenced content embedded in my prior post, Tia - and you still haven't defined the borders of Israel for us.

The borders of Israel wil be defined by a future peace treaty. I am not Israeli. Yet. I have no say in the matter.

The borders of Israel wil be defined by a future peace treaty. I am not Israeli. Yet. I have no say in the matter.

to make it look like he was a bomber..

keep up with what ?

I have a more detailed account of that which I didn't post because I didn't want to go to the trouble to either assemble the pictures or use HTML

but where did 60 years ago come from ?

and where did I come into it ?

the only post I did was replying to TW about the gender issue..

you probably haven't noticed but I only post when it's something I already have either prepared for another forum where you can post as many pictures as you want and format them in any way without HTML and nothing is ever hidden, or, when I've prepared pictures anyway for another reason like the Boycott Israel Campaign - which I'm involved with :)

that's worth spending time & effort on - you are not :)

but where did 60 years ago come from ?

The previous poster is talking about a 60 year old letter to the New York times.

and where did I come into it ?

I was pointing out, to you, how the non-Zionists change topics at will.

Oh I see you meant to be addressing the posting of the link TO me (as if I care)

I take the link at face value - it's your links I check out :)

the poster isn't a known liar - you are..

as to the crap - well you can only post so much of it before I start skipping over it - like I already do with Becky

once it's shown over & over (by combing the links/keywords/phrases) that it's always Zionist crap there's *no reason to*

it's safe to assume *everything* you post is.. The only time I will even do more combing is when you attempt to sell something _new_ as neutral/un-biased..

anything that's already been covered (like that link) is ignored

I don't think you quite realize how little your spamming matters to people here - Becky _definitely_ doesn't.

Her "re-education" efforts were exposed and laid bare long ago.

You are rapidly following in her footsteps - you already have 3 heavy quotes that self-discredits you..

Who wants to watch you digging your own grave deeper ? it's already so deep your head is below the surface - you're disappearing with each shovel full of CRAP you toil

the "fuck it. I'll do what I want" is your head going below ground level

I don't think you quite realize how little your spamming matters to people here - Becky _definitely_ doesn't.

Becky and Gehrig serve as inspiration to the forces of Truth.

(Traditional Jewish blessing): May they always go from strength to strength.

Heh... I know the Zionists need to give each other group hugs, but this

'Becky and Gehrig serve as inspiration to the forces of Truth' crap travels past absurdity and journeys well into perversion.

Can't you bleeping Zionists racists circle jerk somewhere else? We're getting the over spray.