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Human trafficking in Israel a $ 1 billion industry

by hex Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 1:55 AM

Israel the so-called "oasis of democracy and human rights" been cited by the United Nations and the US State Department was one of the worst offenders in this slave trade, a $ 1,000,000,000 dollar booming industry which contines to this day

Human trafficking in...
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Israel's sex trade booming - News from Israel, YnetnewsYnet News

Human trafficking in Israel rakes in more than one billion dollars a year, findings in annual parliamentary survey show.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3062297,00.html



TEL AVIV - Thousands of women are being smuggled into Israel, creating a booming sex trade industry that rakes more than USD one billion a year, a parliamentary committee said on Wednesday.

The Parliamentary Inquiry Committee, headed by Knesset member Zehava Galon of the left-wing Yahad party, commissioned the report in an effort to combat the sex trade in Israel. Findings showed that some 3,000 and 5,000 women are smuggled to Israel annually and sold into the prostitution industry, where they are constantly subjected to violence and abuse.

The report, issued annually, said some 10,000 such women currently reside in about 300 to 400 brothels throughout the country. They are traded for about USD 8,000 – USD 10,000, the committee said.

The U.S. State Department ranks Israel in the second tier of human trafficking around the world, saying the Jewish State does not maintain minimal conditions regarding the issue but is working to improve them.

Israel passed a law in 2003 that would allow the state to confiscate the profits of traffickers, but watchdog groups say it is rarely enforced.

Most foreign prostitutes in Israel come from Ukraine, Moldova, Uzbekistan and Russia and many are smuggled in across the Egyptian border.

The committee found that the women work seven days a week for up to 18 hours every day and that out of the NIS 120 paid by customers, they are left with just NIS 20, while the rest of the money is passed on to their traders.




The prostitutes face constant threats of abuse and murder, the report said, and Israeli law does little to help them. Delays in trial dates and prolonged hearings force the women to remain exposed to violence for more than a year until they are called in to provide testimony, and courts rarely collect early testimonies, as permitted by law.



To help combat the problem, the committee recommended that the state prosecutor's office refrain from making plea bargains with sex traders. It also advised to raise the threshold of punitive measures and pushed for financial compensation for sex trade victims.


Human Trafficking & Modern-day Slavery - Israel

Women leaders gather in Israel to combat crime of trafficking ... 2004 Women As Commodities: Trafficking in Women in Israel 2003

http://www.gvnet.com/humantrafficking/Israel.htm




WOMEN AS COMMODITIES - TRAFFICKING IN WOMEN IN ISRAEL, 2003

http://www.kavlaoved.org.il/katava_main.asp?news_id=620&sivug_id=3





BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Israel women trafficking soars

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4380067.stm

Thousands of women have been smuggled into Israel in the past four years to work as prostitutes, a parliamentary inquiry says.




Israel - Facts on Trafficking and Prostitution

"The problem is there is no law against trafficking people, and no law against prostitution." Rachel Benziman, legal adviser to the Israel Women's Network.


http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/israel.htm





FOXNews.com - Israel a Human Trafficking Haven - US & World


TEL AVIV, Israel — Human trafficking is turning into a real problem in Israel, where law enforcement officials say women are bought and sold into ...


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,129157,00.html
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here's the Task Force on Human Trafficking website

by hex Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 1:56 AM

Task Force on Human Trafficking -

Sign Our Petitions Against Human Trafficking.

http://www.tfht.org/




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SchtarkerYid

by Of course these Haters fail to Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 6:29 AM

Of course these Haters fail to mention that of course Israel has its police fighting crime like any other nation (and that they post five year old articles). If the endless pressure of terrorism was removed than israel would have more resources to both fight crime and further technical and medical technology.

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If the endless pressure of terrorism -

by Sheepdog Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 6:32 AM

- created by zionazis ceased, the world would be much safer for all Jews.
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and furthermore

by Sheepdog Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 6:39 AM

as proof of the malicious designs the zionists have dealing with Jews, is to see their aggressive and violent rhetoric while 'representing' Judaism.
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SchtarkerYid

by that didn't even make sense Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 6:43 AM

that didn't even make sense. what are you ranting about? As you should have figured out by now, Zionism is nothing more than a short hand phrase that means the Jewish right and desire for national self determination. I realize that you have a problem with the idea that Jews have the same rights as other peoples. Get over it.
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"israel would have more resources to both fight crime"

by hex Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 6:47 AM

well try making prostitution and slavery ILLEGAL in that "oasis of democracy and human rights" for one thing

are we to actually swallow the idea that the 400 some brothels "can't" be shut down ?

and the *extremely tight border checkpoints* that keep Palestinians and lately even international care workers and Americans out can't keep 4,000 slaves out per year ?

oh poor poor Israel - always the victim - EVEN WHEN VICTIMIZING

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indigenous Jewish people

by Sheepdog Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 6:56 AM

You mean the 'indigenous Jewish people' of the lands that zionism poisoned with their murderous ideology?
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SchtarkerYid

by National Self Determination Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 6:59 AM

National Self Determination is somehow anathema to you? Or only for Jews?
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sad

by Sheepdog Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 7:02 AM

the very problem is that zionist only recognize their own National Self Determination to the grief of everyone.
Even Jews.
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and the water ?

by hex Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 7:21 AM

> look these things up then post

don't tell me - the water lying under Palestinian land belongs to Israel - right ?

and Lebanon... - naturally !

so Israel's water is it's neighbors water..

funny how the zionist mind works

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rejecting 'rights'

by Sheepdog Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 7:23 AM

Who the hell gave lord Balfor the 'right' to give someone else's' home away w/o the people who lived there having any say in the matter?
Some great white [wealth ] leader. Try again.
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just another page in the book called crusade

by hex Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 7:29 AM

invading other lands and driving the indigenous peoples away then announcing the land is theirs

they did it here too..

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SchtarkerYid

by Too Ignorant to post Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 7:40 AM

You guys are simpy too ignorant to post. Arabs are not "indigenous" to Israel. In fact, most of todays "Palestinians" are descended from immigrants from other Arab countries in historic times, often after the beginning of Modern Zionism rather than from the orginal Arab invading armies.

Next, Lord Balfour didn't give away anyone's land. After the Turks LOST WWI, alot of things were re-adjusted (1.3 Greeks were transferred from Turkey to Greece for instance). One of the things that occurred was that the British recognized the right of the Jewish people to self determination in their own land.

Read a realbook, not the propaganda that they try to feed you.
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the whole notion

by of land ownership is screwy Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 7:46 AM

"they did it here too.. "

What gave Napoleon the right to "sell" the Louisana Purchase to Jefferson? It wasn't "his" to sell.

When do we start returning what isn't rightfully ours?
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further impressed

by Sheepdog Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 7:46 AM

And all the 'new' immigrants in Palestine are... what? Indigenous?
Like, far out man.
Unbelievable frontiers of hypocrisy.
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SchtarkerYid

by Slowly Sheepdog Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 7:54 AM

Slowly Sheepdog, but you are starting to get it. When we speak English, we use the word "Jew". Its related to the original name of the country, "Judea", essentially "Land of the Jews." So yes, modern Jews dispersed by the forces of imperial Rome arround the world are the descendants of the indigeneous people of Judea. Medical studies of Jewish genetics have confirmed this fact. As per previous discussions, thats why a person that can read Hebrew can also read the Moabite stela.

So now we have two groups immigrating to the land of Israel, one un-documented and over land, the other by sea, and dueling nationalisms.
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"1.3 Greeks were transferred"

by hex Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 7:55 AM

"1.3 Greeks wer...
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doesn't even look like you know what indigenous means - and you're telling US to "read a book "

I'd recommend you go to school :)

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question

by Sheepdog Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 7:59 AM

When do we start returning what is everyones' right to live in peace?

The real victims are not just the victims of ruthless seizure by force but also the innocents born into the results of a conquered land.
All share the after effects of the original crime. The solution would be a culture of respect.
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Quick history lesson

by for the uninformed Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 8:04 AM

Pre State Palestine was a barren, desolate area


From Mark Twain:

To find ". . . the sort of solitude to make one dreary," one must, Twain wrote dramatically,
Come to Galilee for that... these unpeopled deserts, these rusty mounds of barrenness, that never, never do shake the glare from their harsh outlines, and fade and faint into vague perspective; that melancholy ruin of Capernaum: this stupid village of Tiberias, slumbering under its six funereal palms.... We reached Tabor safely .... We never saw a human being on the whole route.
Nazareth is forlorn .... Jericho the accursed lies a moldering ruin today, even as Joshua's miracle left it more than three thousand years ago: Bethlehem and Bethany, in their poverty and their humiliation, have nothing about them now to remind one that they once knew the high honor of the Savior's presence; the hallowed spot where the shepherds watched their flocks by night, and where the angels sang, "Peace on earth, good will to men," is untenanted by any living creature... Bethsaida and Chorzin have vanished from the earth, and the "desert places" round about them, where thousands of men once listened to the Savior's voice and ate the miraculous bread, sleep in the hush of a solitude that is inhabited only by birds of prey and skulking foxes.

When The Jewish people began returning, they built up the land and made it prosperous. At that point, Arab migration into the land began.

History aside- the Arabs have 22 homelands. Why begrudge the Jewish people one?
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SchtarkerYid

by even slower for Hex Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 8:06 AM

Lets go even even slower for Hex. Remember the Christian story? Ancient Judea under Roman occupation? Lotsof Jews, lots of Romans, Greeks, an doccasional Samaritan, but do you recall any Arabs? No, of course not, they weren't there. Caliph Omar and his Arab armies invaded arround 638 C.E. from Arabia. Of course, alot of history has passd since then, including Umayyads, Abbasids, Crusaders, Ayyubids, Mamluks, Ottomans and British. Not to mention the Mongol invasions and the Black death twice. So its unlikley that many of the descendants of the original Arab armies are todays "Palestinians" . Far more likely, historically recent migrants evading Mohamad Ali's draft etc.
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good points, Yid

by ever hear of Jesus? Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 8:09 AM

I understand he's pretty well known- he lived in the area known as Israel about 2,000 years ago. Wasn't he Jewish? Wasn't he called "the King of the Jews"?

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still no solution offered

by Sheepdog Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 8:12 AM

aside from the quibbling about genetic nuances we shold remain focused upon the fact that Palestine was invaded no matter the tassels and lace applied to cover this little fact over. The natives were made into the aggressors and interlopers, the injured party as a matter of SOP propaganda.
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SchtarkerYid

by distant relative Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 8:23 AM

Because he was identified as being of the tribe of Judah, he's a distant relative. "The King of the Jews" reference was a Roman reference to the crime of treason against the Emperor, essentially for asserting the right to Jewish national self determination against the brutal authority of Rome. Over the years, there have been alot of oppresors who desired to take the land of the Jewish people from the Jewish people.
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dead people can't count

by Sheepdog Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 8:31 AM

'land of the Jewish people' is a bible reference and not relevant to current history.
This is a foolish comparison because it neglects a few thousand years of human progression.
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Wrong, wrong

by and here's why Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 8:45 AM

Its relevant because:

It shows a historic presence
and there has been a continued Jewish presence for over 3000 years
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exactly

by Sheepdog Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 8:53 AM

And it's funny that zionists only recognize this flimsy chain of 'possession' ignoring the fact still, that others also lived there. Are you using the bible as a document of ownership?
How weird.
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SchtarkerYid

by no, thats not correct either Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 8:53 AM

no, thats not correct either. For one not all Jews were expelled by Rome. Many just stayed on the land. There were Jewish revolts through 613 C.E.
The rest have prayed for return ever since. Over the years, even well before the advent of modern Zionism, Jews have returned. Our claim was never relinquished even though we were forcibly prevented from returning at times.
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forcibly prevented from returning at times.

by Sheepdog Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 8:56 AM

how strange of you to bring this up.
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SchtarkerYid

by most recently Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 9:01 AM

most recently by the British and the Arabs till 1948.
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"Jews have returned"

by anti-Zionist Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 9:04 AM

Jews who were not born there "returning" is not the real problem.

Jews not allowing Arabs who *were* born there to return is a problem.

Jews living in Palestine is OK, as long as they make themselves welcome. Jews attempting to rule Palestine by force, and treat the other Palestinians as dhimmi is *not* OK, not by any stretch of the imagination.

Palestine, like the rest of the earth, no more belongs to one ethnic group than it does to another. It belongs to all the people who live there, equally.
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just

by wondering Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 9:08 AM

Palestine, like the rest of the earth, no more belongs to one ethnic group than it does to another. It belongs to all the people who live there, equally.

Then why were the Jews in Gaza forced to leave?
Why were 850,000 Jews forced to leave the Arab countrieswhere they lived for generations?
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same old shit

by Sheepdog Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 9:40 AM

but wrapped in so many words.
a land without people [ lie #1 ] for a people without a land [ lie #2 ]

The real truth is that israel was created to fracture the Islamic world.
No big loss to the European zionists, but a calamity to Jews, Arabs and Christians living in the region.
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"why were the Jews in Gaza forced to leave?"

by straw man Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 12:48 PM

(1.) That's a seperate issue.

(2.) It was other Jews who forced them.


>Why were 850,000 Jews forced to leave the Arab countrieswhere they lived for generations?

Because the Zionists antagonized Arabs everywhere, and Arabs are no better than Jews at telling one indivodual from another, so even innocent Jews get blamed for the crimes of the Zionists. Before Zionism, Jews were more welcome in Arab lands than in Christian lands. After Zionism, people who used to like Jews and treat them well, now hate them. It's a lot like how innocent Germans were ill treated because of what the Nazis had done.
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SchtarkerYid

by reality check-corrected it for you Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 1:20 PM

Why were 850,000 Jews forced to leave the Arab countries where they lived for generations?

Because the when Israel defeated the combined armies of 7 Arab countries in the 1948 War of Independence, Arabs everywhere felt that their HONOR was offended and so they took it out on their own, innocent, defenseless Jews in a fit of pique.

Before Zionism, Jews were treated as a subservient class called "dhimmi", in Arab lands and lived under a set of laws similar to "Jim Crow" laws in the U.S. It is a baseless myth that Jews were better treated in Moslem lands than in than in Christian lands. There were periodsof tolerance and intolerance in both. After Zionism, people who hate Jews found a new excuse to continue their racist attitudes.
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one eyed snakes

by Sheepdog Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 1:23 PM

-Arabs everywhere felt that their HONOR-
Who the hell made you the spokesman for 'Arabs everywhere'?

Just twisting reality into your warped mold.
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"SchtarkerYid" - the KING of generalizations and strawmen

by hex Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 1:35 PM

On the planet of the Arabs

well none of the denyers are refuting Israel the "osasis of democracy and human rights" slave trade which I just got *detailed statistics for as to ratio, compared to the rest of the "devil" nations and cultures..

And Becky & Tia the "feminists" are still supporting their sisters in Israel by -

TOTALLY IGNORING THEM
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SchtarkerYid

by that post had no content Hex Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 1:45 PM

that post had no content Hex. I try to keep it simple for you here because I know no one is going to read a dissertation. The level of ignorant beliefs expressed by the "anti-zionists" here is shocking. I just try to help when people say something really stupid or really hateful.
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unusal

by ? Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 1:49 PM

I just try to help when people say something really stupid or really hateful.

More like
I just try to help by saying something really stupid or really hateful.
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when propaganda fails - do damage control

by hex Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 1:52 PM

> The level of ignorant beliefs expressed by the "anti-zionists

so you're here to re-educate us

as to context look at the topic of this thread

and then look at what you've been posting - a diversionary tactic

you can't refute the data so you deny, distract, dismiss, divert and demonize

- damage control

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SchtarkerYid

by actually Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 1:55 PM

actually I'm here because I was astounded at the level of raw anti-semitism being spewed and accepted on Indymedia. I have never tolerated racists and Nazis on the streets and I won't tolerate them elsewhere.
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then point out the "raw anti-semitism" in the article

by hex Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 2:01 PM

or is the topic too uncomfortible for you to deal with ?

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No, that's RIGHT Sheepdog

by TW Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 2:02 PM

"The real truth is that israel was created to fracture the Islamic world."

That's right. At first the British plan was to retain direct colonial control of this wedge driven between Africa and Arabia. Balfour deal be damned, they weren't about to hand proxies control of such a crucial geostrategic possession. But then to everyone's surprise WWII broke the British Empire's back and they had to surrender EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE, like it or not. The next best plan became letting zionist fanatics flood into a newly created zionist state, where they would be certain to lash out viciously and hold the land very efficiently. This was a complete reversal of British Palestine policy during WWII. Then over the next ten years the Western Axis (UK, US, France) began secretly helping Israel build a nuclear arsenal. This shows you how important Israel is on their "Grand Chessboard."

Isn't it pathetic how the zionists think they're the masters of their own destiny, when they're actually just berserk monkeys jumping at the beck and call of reptilian billionaires in London and New York?
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SchtarkerYid

by for example here Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 2:06 PM

for example here this article:

1. Is from March of 2005
2. chosen to selectively demonize israel
3. omits any mention of israeli law enforcement efforts
4. no other country's similar situation is mentioned or ever has been mentioned, only Israel despite far worse goings on elsewhere


Simply, a half truth is a whole lie. Similar lies are directed hereat any other than the Jewish state are they?
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we did, and your fugued

by Sheepdog Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 2:08 PM

If you wish to scroll up...
It's been addressed.
And you went into a fugue.
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"this article"

by hex Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 2:13 PM

is citing mainstream sources
does NOT use any Arab, Islamic or left-wing sources
some sources are *from Israel it'self*

they don't divert the problem elseware, they DO mention law enforcement efforts

(obviously you aren't even reading it - just making assumptions)

if you're not even reading MSM cited data while spewing your ad-lib propaganda

why in the hell should anyone here pay any attention to what you have to say ?

this shows THE TRUTH MEANS NOTHING to you - you are an enemy of truth

zionists whole game depends on lies

is it any wonder that you have no interest in the truth ?

the truth is at the top of this thread

please feel free to ignore it and "re-educate" us with your lies

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SchtarkerYid

by wrong again TW Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 2:22 PM

The British certainly had their own imperial plans and used anyone and any country that they could. Whatever their plan was, it certainly wasn't to inflame the millions of Moslems in their empire, and certainly not after oil was discovered in 1938 and they started favoring the ARABS. Read upon what realy went on during the a mandate period. The British plans were not the Jewish plans however, which is where you get confused.

The Britishs fought Jewish immigration, pandering to the Arabs by the way,and put captured Jews in camps on Cyprus.

Read a book sometime
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heard it before

by pot/kettle/black Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 4:41 PM

>Before Zionism, Jews were treated as a subservient class called "dhimmi", in Arab lands and lived under a set of laws similar to "Jim Crow" laws in the U.S.

After Zionism, Arabs are treated as a subservient class just like "dhimmi", in Jewish lands and live under a set of laws similar to "Jim Crow" laws in the U.S.
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Ancient History Verses Modern Crimes

by The Angry Goyim Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 4:44 PM

Ancient History Verses Modern Crimes

2,200 year old claims cannot justify modern war crimes and violations of international law.

The relatively new theft of Palestine for the creation of “Israel” is an insult to Christianity, Islam and according to Neturi Karta, Judaism as well.

Has Yid read “One Palestine, Complete” by Segev? How about “Beyond Chutzpah” by Finkelstein?





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Sex Trafficking: problem for 150 Nations

by repost Thursday, Oct. 05, 2006 at 9:08 PM


Sex Trafficking: Problem for 150 Nations
by Becky Johnson Tuesday, Oct. 03, 2006 at 10:58 AM
Santa Cruz, CA.

THANKS HEX for posting several articles detailing the problem of sex trafficking in Israel. As you know, sex trafficing is a worldwide problem, and probably exists in your own home town.

Statistics on sex trafficking generally follow the pattern that in countries where there is a great differential between mens wages and womens wages, the incidence of prostitution proportionally increases. For instance, in Iceland, where mens wages and womens wages are nearly identical, female prostitution is virtually unknown.

But don't take my word for it!! You have previously reported in this thread how "dishonest" I am. (like to see a single example of that someday, Hex. Still waiting.) See the link given below.

re: Israeli prostitution:

Israel, has a fairly equitable wage/gender differential, hence prostitution is considerably less than some other countries. Furthermore Israel has laws against sex trafficking and enforces them. The articles you posted document Israel's free press reporting on some of those enforcement operations.

Isn't sex trafficking in countries where there is violent govt. repression, no free press, and greater victimization of women and boys and girls more of a problem?

Wouldn't you expect LESS reporting where conditions are WORSE?


Here is some more information of the topic if you are interested:

FROM THE USA STATE DEPT. WEBSITE:

Notice to the Press
Office of the Spokesman
Washington, DC
June 1, 2005


Public Release of the 2005 "Trafficking in Persons Report"

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice will release the fifth annual Department of State Trafficking in Persons Report on Friday, June 3, at 11:45 a.m. in the State Department’s Press Briefing Room (Room 2209). Following Secretary Rice’s opening remarks, Ambassador John R. Miller, the Secretary’s Senior Advisor on Trafficking in Persons, will brief the press on the report and respond to questions.

THE 150-COUNTRY REPORT (emphasis mine) is the most comprehensive worldwide report on the efforts of governments to combat severe forms of trafficking in persons, or modern-day slavery. Its findings will raise global awareness and spur countries to take effective actions to counter trafficking in persons. The assessment includes reports on countries determined to have a significant number of victims of severe forms of human trafficking.

This year, there will be an added focus on forced labor trafficking including involuntary servitude and debt bondage. This type of slavery, involving millions of people every year, happens most frequently in an individual’s own country and is often based on culture, heritage or economic well-being.

This on-the-record, on-camera briefing is open for press coverage.

from: http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2005/47037.htm

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in other words

by bottom line Friday, Oct. 06, 2006 at 12:38 AM

BECKY is in support of ethnic cleansing of Palestine to rid itself from its original population of Palestinians.
'give them green cards' or just push them out.
Very clear.
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Very clear. - true

by hex Friday, Oct. 06, 2006 at 1:59 AM

what is also clear is that she would rather discuss anything other than the topic of the thread

completely ignoring her sisters in Israel when they come between her & zionism

*I* care more about the 10,000 women slaves in Israel than Becky does...

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punch & Judy

by shill Friday, Oct. 06, 2006 at 5:04 AM

on with the show.
Ha ha ha ha ha
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exploitation of women and children

by a world wide problem Friday, Oct. 06, 2006 at 6:06 AM

The multi-billion dollar worldwide sex trade in children is growing, with more than one million youngsters trafficked every year for the purpose of sexual exploitation according to the United Nations Children's Fund

"The situation is getting worse, paradoxically and ironically because of some of the progress in transport, communications, and the Internet," UNICEF's deputy executive director Kul Gautam told a news conference.

The Internet has made it much easier to distribute child pornography and modern transportation and communications facilitate moving larger numbers of children for longer distances, he said.

In 1986, , 20,000 children were estimated to be in the sex trade in the Philippines but in 2000, the estimated number rose to 100,000.

ECPAT International, a voluntary group that campaigns against child sexual exploitation, estimates that 400,000 children and women are subjected to commercial sexual exploitation in India, 200,000 in Thailand, 100,000 in the Philippines, China's Taiwan and Brazil, and 35,000 in west Africa.

A new U.S. study by Richard Estes and Neil Alan Weiner estimates between 244,000 and 325,000 children and women are similarly exploited in the United States, UNICEF said.
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offered 5 choices

by Aunti-Hexamole-bottom line Friday, Oct. 06, 2006 at 7:00 AM

BECKY is in support of ethnic cleansing of Palestine to rid itself from its original population of Palestinians.
'give them green cards' [ option one ] or just push them out of the land. [ option two ]
Very clear.
here were the choices.

1. Giving a "green card" to all Palestinians on the West Bank which allows them to live there until they die. making all newborns citizens of Israel.
[ option one - codified 2nd class status in their own land ]
2. Jordan incorporates the West Bank and the Palestinians become Jordanian citizens [ option two - kick them into Jorden ]
3. Egypt incorporates Gaza and they become Egyptian citizens
[ option two - kick them into Egypt ]
4. Israel expands to include West Bank and Gaza---all Palestinians who cannot submit to Israeli rule,, are given homes in nearby Arab countries. Whoever stays, becomes an Israeli citizen. [option two- 'submit' ( grovel for life at the whim of a people who despise them ) or fuck off to where ever ]
5. the independent state of Palestine actually forms on the West Bank and Gaza [ option stupid- in a separated nation through a security grid ]

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and now back to our regularly scheduled "re-education" campaign

by hex Friday, Oct. 06, 2006 at 8:06 AM

> You, on the other hand, think you're so smart / We know that you are a mysogynist who condemns female speakers for their femaleness. You have done it to me and Tia both, showing your colors.


yes you're right - and totally ignoring the $1. billion a year women slave trade issue *just because* it's Israel is proof positive of your "speaking"

While my _unifying_ the sexual abuse issue as a problem that affects *both men & women* while the shameful response we get of "go deal with your own" is further proof


I see this and reply that the rejection of this attempt is "sad" upon which I am condemned even *more* as a mysogynist and now it's being repeated again and again..




> Look at the photo you posted of the dog with the painful porcupines in its face and its jaws all bloody. The caption you posted said "Tia can't buzz off." The accompanying post said 'Look what happens to those who can't buzz off."


that's quite simple - tia was the one I was having the debate with *at the time*

you would almost think the dog was in the right to keep messing with porcupine and get all those quills in it's skin - never mind that the animal's *own stupidity* is to blame

the only way this straw man could hold any water is if it was a *female* dog

whereas you automaticly think *being female* grants you extra privledges to go around ball-bashing then scream mysogynist at anyone that doesn't let you roll over them




> HEX can't STAND for women to speak up---especially against him. That is standard for a mysogynist.

totally ad hominem with no supporting data what so ever (but don't let that stop you - it never has before)



> not Gehrig

Well he was refered as a "pig fucker" and I went into a more detailed assertation relating my personal experience with a confirmed pig fucker and how closely his personality matches

*if that had been you or tia* - you would have both screamed bloody murder - MYSOGYNIST !!!!

so it's only *selective* examples that you use - an animal stupid enough to attack a porcupine is twisted into a "threat" while my support of sex slave women in Israel is twisted (again) into "closet mysogynist" then to top it off me directly calling for unification of both sexes on the abuse issue again is another case of "closet mysogynist"



and the strategy is revealed -

> hatred of *women AND Jews*


there we have it - the reasoning of a zionist

use any issue, press any button, exploit any percieved vulnerability in the cause of the zionist agenda

you (as a zionist not a woman - sex has nothing to do with it) *thrive* on conflict and sowing discontentment and practice doing so with any one and any issue that gets in the way of the zionist cause

I won't even stoop to relating what that indicates about your mental state since as a zionist it's perfectly clear already what it means

that you would hijack the issue of women sex slaves AND sexual abuse of either/both sexes speaks volumes about where honesty and co-operation, unity & solidarity stand

I'm being effective in raising these issues and calling out what zionists are doing and so "taking me out" has become a top priority

the fact that in reality I have no direct interest in women at all seems to have been lost on you - how much could a man hate women who doesn't have feelings for women to begin with ?

The sex slave issue is an ABUSE issue - a *pro-victim* one, not a male or female one

the sexual abuse issue likewise - pro-victim, not pro-women or pro-man (which I've already explained AND cited professional's in the field's writings on)


I'm sorry zionists, but this little game isn't going to work - trying to leverage the battle of the sexes conflict upon battle of the cultures conflict to work out your personal demons isn't building anything - it's *just repetitive*

there's no button you can press, not pride (well look things have been hidden/you think you're so smart), not the IMC staff (exploiting them with these games, trying to hook and link your status as "victims" in with the only bargaining chips available - women and animal issues - and not the "he said-she said" confrontational game of turning everything into a conflict where you're at your best.

the situation is more complex than you seem to be aware of - johnk is smarter than you give him credit for, he doesn't have to agree with every little detail of my assertions to realize what I'm calling for - UNITY, BOTH SEXES WORKING TOGETHER

or what you're calling for - continual war

between cultures, between sexes

all I can say is try being honest and open, try NOT linking issues together for strength and leverage and try not being hypocrites

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SchtarkerYid

by I guess thats a "yes" Friday, Oct. 06, 2006 at 8:31 AM

I guess thats a "yes".
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just another

by manic Thursday Friday, Oct. 06, 2006 at 8:59 AM

A quick anecdote, from Douglas Adams:

"...on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much -- the wheel, New York, wars and so on -- whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man -- for precisely the same reasons. "

I personally, would like more time to muck about in the water.

So yes, for example, male rape is an interesting issue, but it is not something I am personally involved with. I need to limit my involvement with many progressive issues that move me, simply because of limited time and resources. I understand the value of mucking about in the water- I understand the problem with spreading myself too thin.

This does not make me a hypocrite, nor does this make me complicit in the gender/class/race wars.

It makes me just another stretched to the limit American, who needs to pick up rabbit food, milk and light bulbs on the way home from work.
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spread too thin

by hex Friday, Oct. 06, 2006 at 10:33 AM

:)


well there's women out there who aren't ^

thank god




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whoops file had an error

by hex Friday, Oct. 06, 2006 at 10:38 AM

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I converted it to png
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Huh?

by re: spread too thin Friday, Oct. 06, 2006 at 10:50 AM

"well there's women out there who aren't"

Spoken like a true man. Or an heiress.

"Mans' work lasts till set of sun.
Womans' work is never done.''

Add that to your list of bigotted nursery rhymes.
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the woman in the picture

by hex Friday, Oct. 06, 2006 at 11:01 AM

has got it together - she's someone you should look up to - I have great respect for her (because I'm a woman hater - zionist logic)

as to your adage

a ZIONISTS work is never done - there's truth all over the world to stamp out - a never ending task
like stamping out the news that Israel has a $ 1.billion per year women's slavery trade in this "shining example of democracy and human rights"

it's a tiring task scanning the newswire for stories like that, to spam and flood with diversionary zionist propaganda

I feel sorry for the person tasked to do it

there you go - some more victimhood to stand on as you shout zionist propaganda with the megaphone software

-always the victim, so the real victims become invisible

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Expolitation of Women and Children

by so what are YOU doing about it? Friday, Oct. 06, 2006 at 11:28 AM

Over 1 million kids are exploited worldwide for sexual purposes. Many more women are exploited as well

100,000 in the PI
400,000 in India
35,000 in West Africa
300,000 in Thailand

Accurate figures are hard to find- many governments are ignoring this issue, Hell, it brings in tourists!
At least Israel is addressing these problems.

Its a worldwide problem- and its in America, too- estimates are over 200,000 women and children are sexually exploited in America. When I look at the porn thats spammed all over the Network, it makes me wonder - Are the women participating in this because they want to, or because they have to?

Yes, NAMBLA is also part of the issue, Nessie- attempting to legitimize the exploitation of boys. Minors cannot give consent.

So Hex- what are you doing about these issues?
You don't fool me for a second- you could care less about the exploitation of women and children- its just a means to an end . Your only goal is demonizing Israel.

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an "ordinary" $ 1 billion sex trade

by hex Friday, Oct. 06, 2006 at 11:30 AM

news you won't find on fox

but wait ! what's THIS ?

FOXNews.com - Israel a Human Trafficking Haven - US & World


TEL AVIV, Israel — Human trafficking is turning into a real problem in Israel, where law enforcement officials say women are bought and sold into ...


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,129157,00.html

"Human trafficking is turning into a real problem in the United States - a $ 1 billion per year industry"

"just like any other country" :)

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The Sex Trade Industry

by in Thailand Friday, Oct. 06, 2006 at 11:39 AM

BANGKOK, Thailand – The pop music blares from the speakers situated on the steamy and seedy Patpong Road: "One night in Bangkok and the world's your oyster."

"Oh, that is so '80s," says Mylee, a pretty 24-year-old Thai prostitute from the city of Chiang Rai in Northern Thailand. Mylee has perfect teeth, long, flowing jet-black hair and a graceful manner that belies her social status. She once studied to become a veterinarian at a Thai university, but the 1997 Asian financial meltdown forced her family into bankruptcy and destitution.

For Mylee, life – as it is for so many Thai women – is anything but a fairytale, yet her lot is better than many of the women and children caught in the no-man's land of Southeast Asia's human-flesh trade. It is a trade that includes not only sex, but pedophilia, human slavery and even organ harvesting.

"People are bought and sold – children, too," Mylee said over a meal.

"I can tell you that my body is hard currency," she explained. "Men want certain types of skin color, a compliant attitude. Submission and curves. But there aren't really any reasons anymore. There are only tears."

Thai and other Southeast Asian women are popular with men seeking sex. The zoos of Patpong Road and Soi Cowboy in Bangkok's red-light district are filled with them. The light-skinned Thais from the north of the nation – ethnic Mongolians and Tibetans – are preferred over the darker-skinned girls from the ethnic Muslim and Malay south. Indo-Aryan women are too thin for most men, which precludes sex slaves coming to Thailand from poor countries like Bangladesh. In India, exotic women from the Himalayas are brought to Calcutta and other cities for their own perceived standout qualities. Islamic nations like Malaysia (and to a much lesser extent, Hindu Nepal) officially frown on the sex trade in Asia, while "Christian" and Buddhist nations like the Philippines and Thailand tend to turn a blind eye to it.

Though nations like Sweden have recently refused to legalize prostitution, in Thailand it is a sort of national pastime on the scale of Amsterdam. When the transnational military exercise Cope Tiger 2002 brought 1,100 foreign troops to Thailand – including many American soldiers – the Thai government's Interior Ministry enacted special legislation to help the soldiers enjoy Thailand's sex industry. The 2 a.m. closing time for most bars was extended, and sex workers and others involved in the industry were warned against raising prices.

"Don't feel sorry for me. Feel sorry for the children, for they are most at risk," Mylee said.

Indeed, child rape, an epidemic in South Africa, is spreading like a wildfire into Southeast Asia. Cambodia's child sex slave industry is globally famous. In communist Vietnam, over 3,500 child rape cases have appeared in courts since 1998. The Vietnamese government has released figures showing that in some regions of the nation, between half and 90 percent of sexual crimes and abuse occur against minors.

Throughout Southeast Asia, it is estimated that some 300,000 women and children are involved in the sex trade. They work in border towns between Burma and China, or even on the streets of Bangkok. Some are ethic Chinese nationals seeking a better life in Southeast Asia. They have no money, and many have lost their families – or have been sold off by them. They march through malaria-infested jungles in Laos and Burma and then ride in cramped vans into Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. There pimps and other shady characters bargain for their ownership and services (between $2,000-$4,000, say Thai authorities), while expecting nothing less than full allegiance. Some women will be traded as much as seven to 10 times between pimps and criminal gangs.

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pop goes the weasle

by hex Friday, Oct. 06, 2006 at 7:16 PM

> the embarrassment he's caused his 'toady' friend...

who's toady ?

> What should we place bets on -- 'toady' hitting the hide button on Hex's post?

how about hitting the "hi toady" hide button :)

did the bet pay off ?

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South Korea: Sex industry a 21 BILLION dollar a year industry

by more than electricity and gas combined Monday, Oct. 09, 2006 at 8:08 AM

Today, in South Korea sex work accounts for 4 percent of the country's gross domestic product, according to government reports. Prostitution brings $21 billion a year -- more than electricity and gas combined. There are an estimated 330,000 sex workers, 80,000 brothels and 69 red-light districts in a country the size of Indiana.
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