BorderRaven aka Borderblob aka Gerry puts up this picture and this remarks"I'm interested in web site and graphics design. I see HTML. I have some ideas for marketing at the grassroots level."

The woman and a christian, Chelene Nightgale aka PatrioticDream did not say anything about it. This tells u that she does not care for sexist remarks.

I don't see anything wrong with a bikini. Maybe I'm old fashioned.

I don't recall any sexism in SOS or the Minutemen. Paranoia, fanatical behavior, indications of racism, white nationalism, support for the warfare in Iraq, support of Bush, criticism against Islam, favoritism for Christianity, and herd mentality, yes. But I don't remember any sexism. Infact I've seen them very protective of their female members coming from their fears and claims of females being targeted by their opponents at protest rallies.

Unless this person agreed to advertise Save Our State on her body, this is no-brainer sexism. It is merely another example of appropriating a woman's body as an object (no head, face, limbs, no humanity here), as an advertising tool.

I could go a lot further with what's offensive here (she's white and blond, clearly drawing the licit gaze of white men, and so forth), but that would require that Border Raven actually had a clue about sexism.

But if this is an example of his website and graphics design skills, I'm not worried about SOS becoming a Google hot property. Anyone could do as well with MS Paint and no other computer knowledge at all.

Go get a dictionary and look up the word "licit." Then try to tell me it's "licit" for men of color to openly ogle this woman.

Shannon will live forever.

Then 'imperfection' is nonwhite.

This garbage is sexism and racism in one.

is a thing of the spirit, when the soirit infuses and is in consonance with the heart and mind, when the spirit is an balance witin itself and the world, when the natural beauty and grace within each of us finds its ease and expression.

It is their hatred and distress that makes Dottie, Border Raven and other SOSers hard to see.

Soul- numbed, heartless people -women or men - cannot be so-called 'perfect.'

Women are not objects - how can a woman be a 10? - that's a damn shoe size.

If you think a human being can be rated on a scale then you''ve been turned into a slavering robot

A killer robot crushing the soul and true beauty OUT of women.

A KILLER of natural spirit filled beauty, one who must defile and degrade and repress and do violence against women in an effort to posess and reduce a 'beauty' THAT IN FACT IS NOT AN OBJECT BUT A SPIRIT.

SOS is bringing together people.

r u finally admitting that MMP/SOS are racist?

and not when they have white nationalist on there side i.e. laguna beach rally

inside the belly of Burger Raven-ous? It would explain his absence in recent Nazi-SOS events

I'm careful with the word racist and don't throw it out for any slight reason. There are various ways to look at this. One way is the opinion that the Minuteman and similar points of view are in nature racist. That's of course up for debate. And there's the matter of invidual persons involved in the Minutemen/SOS/etc. I was saying I've seen indications of racism, regardless and separate from actual racism. As for actual racism, I wouldn't use a few words because explaining isn't that simple. I know that a lot, probably most, people involved in the MM are trying to be nonracist and regard their efforts as "patriotic," heroic, law-abiding, etc. Most aren't in daily contact with the main leaders. From my interaction with some of them, especially very recently, some of them seem to be in denial of the possibility of organized racism invovled, don't care about it, don't want to believe it, are open to the possibility of it existing but changing, or are so desperate for their efforts that they're willing to let it slide(like perhaps Debbie Sattler in regards to the Gilchrist crowd and rallying now with SOS members).