Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | May 6 2006

In June 2006 researchers, scholars, journalists, media personalities, and average folks will come together from all over the USA to gather in Los Angeles to invite the rest of the world to examine the facts of 9/11.

Through powerful & insightful presentations from prominent guest speakers & riveting documentary screenings we will examine the Neo-Con Agenda and 9/11 as the pretext for the brutal on-going war in Iraq as well as the establishment's future plans.

This event can be billed as "Two Days Of Truth" and it is a challenge to the establish mouthpiece media that resolutely defends the government fairy tale version of what happened on that fateful day.

The conference will witness the premiere of Alex Jones' newest and most powerful film which largely focuses on the 7/7 London bombings and how the British government ran and exploited the attacks to accelerate big brother's control grid and cashless society.



Jones has been quietly working on this newest documentary for months in his production studio in Austin, Texas keeping even the title under wraps until the premiere at the American Scholars Symposium conference in June 2006.

Noted speakers included on the roster include Dylan Avery, whose Loose Change 2 film has received critical acclaim across the country, causing a mainstream media backlash seeking to debunk the evidence presented in the documentary. See the evidence for yourself and hear the commentary of talented young producer Avery as he counters the elite attack dogs.

This is guaranteed to be unlike any other conference of its kind - the first one ever presented by Alex Jones, a progenitor of the 9/11 Truth Movement who was the first speak out and challenge the government's official story of what happened on 9/11.



Come and experience the biggest ever 9/11 conference - More highly respected speakers than any other, more amazing films than any other, plus special surprise guests. Come to learn, come to share and come to help each other create new strategies to defend the constitution and save the republic from the grip of its greatest enemy.

Participation in this event is not limited to those who are already awake to the truth of 9/11, but is open to all who have questions about the official story. We also invite the mainstream media to join us as fellow truth seekers and face the facts about the events surrounding September 11th, 2001.

The conference will be held in the Sheraton's Grand Ballroom capable of accommodating up to 1000 attendees. The hotel is also adjacent to a modern shopping center full of shops and restaurants.

If you ever only attend one 9/11 event, make sure this is it.

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Is this man really someone you want to associate with

Here's what Alex Jones had to say about the immigration situation on the day of the massive immigration protests. Congratulations on the company you keep:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/010506mayday.htm

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The scenes you will witness on the streets of America over the next few days do not illustrate a 'new civil rights movement' but an invading army of militant foreigners bankrolled and supported by predominantly white rich Neo-Cons and Neo-Libs who are using the different Mexican race groups as a vice to crush the sleeping American middle class.

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Today's massive immigration protests which are being afforded lavish and complimentary media attention were orchestrated by the Neo-Cons and the Bush administration and represent a fifth columnist movement openly intent on destroying America as we know it.

The agenda is multi-faceted and includes protecting government drug-running operations, balkanizing the US and lowering the standard of living, and inciting race riots that lead to the justification of martial law and internment procedures being implemented.
Last month, in late December 2005, Mexican President Vicente Fox hired a lobbying firm to sweeten political sentiment in the US towards Mexicans and the immigration issue. The same PR expert and GOP political consultant helped George W. Bush defeat Ann Richards for the governorship of Texas in 1994 and worked on both Bush's presidential campaigns.

Rob Allyn of Rob Allyn & Co. secretly engineered Fox's 2000 presidential victory and is closely tied with George W. Bush.
There can be no doubt that a foreign government is working in tandem with the government of the United States and a powerful, politically-connected public relations firm to manufacture consent and to hold back a growing grassroots movement to defend America's sovereignty.

The LA Times reported that Vicente Fox hired Allyn & Co. when the rumblings of immigration reform began to be heard in Congress. The firm was hired to create a mechanism to sway public opinion in favor of Mexico and Mexican immigrants into the U.S. at the same moment public concern over border security was beginning to reach a fever pitch. The timing is impeccable.

The legislation that Fox found so "shameful" is the very same that is being protested so vehemently by hundreds of thousands around the country. The mainstream media's massive protest coverage kept coming back to a few central themes: the protesters are against "criminalizing" the illegal crossing of U.S. borders and they are seeking a blanket amnesty for undocumented immigrants currently residing in the country. Fox turned to Allyn & Co. to push this very agenda.

An LA Times report on last December's announcement quotes Allyn (pictured) on his tactics on behalf of Fox,
''Our focus is on public opinion, which influences policy outcomes in Congress,'' said Allyn, 46, who grew up in Huntington Beach, Calif., and moved to Texas when he was in high school. "There is a huge misperception among the U.S. public about Mexico.''

Allyn set up a phony human rights front group called Democracy Watch, supposedly to "monitor" elections in Mexico. The group solicited donations and used the money to illegally sway the Mexican election in favor of Vicente Fox.

The scenes you will witness on the streets of America over the next few days do not illustrate a 'new civil rights movement' but an invading army of militant foreigners bankrolled and supported by predominantly white rich Neo-Cons and Neo-Libs who are using the different Mexican race groups as a vice to crush the sleeping American middle class.

The real agenda embraced by the ringleaders of the protests are still being whitewashed and covered up by the mainstream media.
The demonstrations are part of an orchestrated advance on the part of a race hate movement that seeks to enact a brutal program of ethnic cleansing that will wipe uncooperative whites and blacks from the south and western states off the map, as detailed in our previous article.

The Atzlan movement openly states its goal is to create a separatist state that encompasses the entire southern and western states. Their version of Hitler's Mein Kampf is the Plan of San Diego, which outlines the plan to ethnically cleanse the entire region of whites and blacks by mass genocide. Mecha's own slogan reads, "For the race everything. For those outside the race, nothing."

The catalyst for the agenda to intern millions of Americans deemed subversive in a time of manufactured chaos could be race riots kick-started by radicalized Mexican Klan groups and their establishment controllers.

During our reporting on the immigration protests that are a front for the violent separatist Atzlan movement, watching Spanish TV news stations we were able to ascertain that the marches were not wholly an organic response to the introduction of the immigration bill but were being artificially promoted and organized by the Spanish-language media.

The very next day the Associated Press reported that, "Many of the 500,000 people who crammed downtown Los Angeles on Saturday to protest legislation that would make criminals out of illegal immigrants learned where, when and even how to demonstrate from the Spanish-language media.

"For English-speaking America, the mass protests in Los Angeles and other U.S. cities over the past few days have been surprising for their size and seeming spontaneity."

"But they were organized, promoted or publicized for weeks by Spanish-language radio hosts and TV anchors as a demonstration of Hispanic pride and power."

Last week Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff dismissed concerns over repeated incursions onto US soil by the Mexican military and drug runners, calling claims of a border war "scare tactics."

Over the past few years there have been hundreds of incidents of rocket attacks, drive by shootings, murders of sheriffs and police chiefs and abductions of US citizens. If Al-Qaeda was engaging in this kind of behavior it would be all over the front pages without recourse.

Sheriff Rick Flores, whose jurisdiction includes vast swathes of the southern border, told the London Telegraph last week, "Yeah, it's a war."

"These people are sophisticated and they are organised. They wear body armour and helmets, just like our soldiers in Iraq. They have no respect for life and are not afraid of law enforcement on this side."

The National Executive Director of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps Al Garza calls the southern border a "warzone" and says that areas of south Texas and Arizona are more dangerous per capita than Israel's West Bank.

"We are virtually at war, we should in fact deploy our military to the borders. You do that and you will seize all these criminals and all these drug cartels that do what they want to do," Garza told The Alex Jones Show.

Mexican drug commando organization los Zetas (pictured) has been carrying out kidnappings of American citizens and politically motivated assassinations which have stretched from the border town of Nuevo Laredo through to Dallas, Houston and San Antonio all the way to Nashville, Tenn., and Atlanta, Ga.

Why would the US government make it easier for drug smuggling death squads to enter the country? Because the US government controls los Zetas and uses it as the front group for their narco-empire.

Retired DEA Agent Celerino "Cele" Castillo III served for 12 years in the Drug Enforcement Administration where he built cases against organized drug rings in Manhattan, raided jungle cocaine labs in the amazon, conducted aerial eradication operations in Guatemala, and assembled and trained anti-narcotics units in several countries.
Castillo affirms the truth is that they are still working for the US government in protecting drug routes to keep the wheels of Wall Street oiled. Castillo has gone on the record to state that the commandos are working directly for the US government drug cartel in carrying out hits on rival drug smugglers who aren't paying their cut.

This is why President Bush attacked the Minutemen as "vigilantes" and the Border Patrol in Arizona were ordered to stand down and not arrest people illegally crossing the border, in order to make the Minutemen look bad and ineffective.

9-11 is the single most vulnerable point of the beast.
Exposing the truth about it transcends any other issue.

The public must understand the events of 9-11 to prevent the repeat of another staged terror attack, most likely to attack Iran.

Good job, attack the man and not the issue at hand....the 9-11 symposium.
In any event, look at what he is really saying.
geez, any person who is "white looking", and says anything about the "illegal immigrant" problem in Amerika is naturally a "racist".
Did you read Mecha's slogan? If that was said by a "white looking" person, could you believe the press and threats he would get?
Now i know those who read this will immediatly think this guy is a racist who wrote this , but not true.
What do you think the Mexican govt would do if you were staying there illegally?
Mr Jones is stating multicultural facts.
He is saying that the US govt want us ALL to live like the poor do in Mexico.
The govt only allows "illegal immigrants" into the country because the corporations dictate what should be done.
Thin out the entire population with race riots.
Lower wages for all.
Enact NAFTA so we can exploit the mexican countryside with pollution.
The govt can enact martial law and take everyones rights.
Open your mind and realize what is really going on in this country.
You think the amerikan govt gives a crap about "white americans?" NO!
The destabalization of the middle class and the pillage of all our monies and taxes to finance wars to benefit the very corporations that exploit the "illegals".
Once the corporations take over , we will be pushed back a thousand years and it will become
FEUDALISM in amerika.
We ALL lose.
Listen to the man before you critique him.
He is not anti mexican.
The views he has will help ALL people of the world to realize that WE HAVE ALL BEEN FOOLED!!!!
Workers of the world unite!
One race!
the HUMAN RACE!!

Do we want a world without racism and war?
Expose and try the ones that grew far too arrogant and power hungry to be allowed to proceed if we are to survive as a race of humans.

Nothing matters as much as this crime and the monsters who performed it.
We must all join hands in justice to crush these creatures once and forever.

I hope any halfway intelligent visitor to LA IMC is paying close attention to the responses to my quoting of Alex Jones, because they say A LOT about both him and the supporters of the so-called "9/11 truth movement." Basically, that they are closet right wing racists, plain and simple.

I also hope any supporter of the immigrants rights movement is paying close attention to LA IMC's complicity in promoting the work of Jones-- you may be losing any chance you have of building your solidarity with immigrants rights protesters.

Like I say all the time to my friends, the agents of power are clearly the ones who introduce division instead of forming common grounds.

Yes, Alex serves the Libertarian agenda. Now we all know it. He's a property rights, deny the greenhouse/rising sea levels, knuckle head. Fine .
He sure knows his shit about the weaknesses of the governments complicity in the events of 9-11.
What's your problem? Don't like unity in this particular purpose? I wonder why. Do you object to exposure of this criminality and need to proceed with the manufactured wedge issue of these immigrant / worker marches whose 'spontaneous' demonstrations were heavily funded and superbly organized without the usual police violence and crowd control?
Is your side that desperate?

What “watch who you embrace” let’s call him (WWYE) is doing is called Poisoning The Well. As SGM points out he attacks one of the speakers of the event not the issue. WWYE does not want there to be a debate about 911. Then WWYE goes on in his second comment to play the Blame The Messenger trick by attacking LA-IMC.

Notice the words he chooses and how he tries to argue that the appearance of this article should be cause for those that support immigrants rights to distrust this site.

Here is the illogic of his argument:
A link to a comment by one of the speakers at this 911 event is proof that that speaker is a racist. Then he makes the claim that this site is some how associated with that speaker. Then he uses the Guilt By Association fallacy to say that this site is racist. The conclusion that he hopes the reader draws from this is: Those 911 people are racist, racism is wrong, so the 911 debate is also wrong.

His two goals: Distract from the issue and get the readers to argue with each other about something else.

fine, lets take these one at a time:

"A link to a comment by one of the speakers at this 911 event is proof that that speaker is a racist. "

Well, perhaps you can find some way to deny the proof of this claim in some sort of twisted way. I think 99/100 people who read what Alex Jones wrote about the immigrant marches would not only say its racist, they'd say its reprehensible. The fact that you even posesses the ability to read this any differently only convinces everyone that you are deep inside your own brain and probably beyond help.

"Then he makes the claim that this site is some how associated with that speaker. Then he uses the Guilt By Association fallacy to say that this site is racist."

Not really. I know enough about Indymedia to know that much of what appears on the site in no way reflects the thinking of those who moderate it. But this article is in the center column, which means an editor had to see it, like it, discuss it with other members of the collective, and promote it. That shows a certain degree of collective support for the message.

"Those 911 people are racist, racism is wrong, so the 911 debate is also wrong."

Bottom line: you have to be responsible for who you choose as your allies. Don't try to weasel out of it. I actually respect spook jones, who admits all the backwards, fucked up shit alex jones and his disgusting ilk bring along with them, but then say it doesn't matter because the 9/11 "conspiracy" is more important. Fine, thats your opinion. I would argue that most people would disagree, and that they will distrust you when they see who you choose to spend your time with.

By promoting this feature, LA-IMC has chose to associate with and endorse the words of someone who would shit all over every single brave mexican who the imc just wrote about less than a week ago. if any immigrants rights marcher has actually started reading this site for the first time, they will flee in horror and never come back. When you choose to roll around in the mud, you can't blame other people if you get dirty.

I doubt it.
What I do know is that the desperation of the perps involved in the event of 9-11 will use anything to keep the general public from learning or uniting on this outrage..
That would cement their doom. In all respects.

I'd think the only reasonble way to counter the immigration argument would be to embrace the immigration activists (movement) and awaken them to the 9/11 Truth issue. And inform them that it's in no way to scare them out of being in the U.S., but that we want them to embrace and advocate the issue. Of course it'll take grueling persuasion and persistence. They need to be informed that they're entering into a country who's own leaders have attacked itself, murdering thousands of their own people.

On another note, remember what rabid animals do when cornered...especially ones that have prior guilt.

This thread should also be reposted in Spanish.

What's funny is, if AJ and his right wing militia and "patriot" followers think Mexico is so bad, how can they have any hope for the US, which they think has a President who bombed his own people. Damn. They're so angy, they should be burning the American flag.

Don’t take WWYE’s bait The topic is 911 not immigration.

On this 911 event

There are a number of groups that are raising questions about 911. This symposium is sponsored by one group that people might want to be careful about. Jones is not a reliable source. This could be an example of what is called controlled opposition, best to check out who is funding this event. The spooks set them up all the time for all kinds of things. There are other 911 groups maybe check them out as well. Look for those who are independent and whose funding can be verified.

The Devil (Bush): "Sorry to Oil the 9-11 Attacks but Oil comes First. Fill her up with some 'Cheap' Bush 666 ???????"

So FYI, you're implying that Alex Jones may be an agent of the New World Order posing as someone who's against it?
I doubt it very much. He just exposes way too much stuff the elite cannot possibly want getting out. I can certainly see Michael Moore or Amy Goodman being controlled oppostion, lord knows they rarely talk about anything of substance. Listen to DemocracyNow! lately? There is virtually no information on that show that I find groundbreaking. Alex Jones, on the other hand, does deal with such issues. Even though he is very eccentric, I don't think he's "controlled oppostion". Unless what seems to be "no holds barred" is now considered "controlled" opposition.

manufactured wedges like the nationwide demonstrations are a measure of the power of the media.
We must realize the players behind these media powers.
And the purpose of their message.
Alex serves the sectors of wealth represented by old money and property holders and is a bully pulpit for the Libertarian platform and virulently anti- socialist
We still need to form unity in action without aligning to other platforms.
Certainly refrain from advocating his anti immigrant views. If fact, we should pressure Alex to realize these movements can serve all of our popular concerns like corporate gangsterism and autocratic brutality.
Common enemies.

OK, man, I don;t have lots of faith in the indymedia editors but JODER!

What on EARTH are you people THINKING to give this Alex Jones guy such a promo!??????????

This guy is a fool, a racist, and a RIGHT WING XENOPHOBE.

Look at his pinche video. He spends half his time on this sloppily produced pedazo de animal RED BAITING every left group imaginable at an anti-war march in NY.

This guy is a KLOWN.

KILL this story!

Here's Jones on migrants: It's somehting you'd expect on the SOS board or coming out of one of those -Paranoid - anything -goes - MInutemen email lists...

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Bushite Neo-Cons Responsible For May Day Immigration Protests
Today's scenes do not herald 'new civil rights movement,' only invading army of foreigners

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | May 1 2006

Today's massive immigration protests which are being afforded lavish and complimentary media attention were orchestrated by the Neo-Cons and the Bush administration and represent a fifth columnist movement openly intent on destroying America as we know it.

The agenda is multi-faceted and includes protecting government drug-running operations, balkanizing the US and lowering the standard of living, and inciting race riots that lead to the justification of martial law and internment procedures being implemented.

As we reported last month, in late December 2005, Mexican President Vicente Fox hired a lobbying firm to sweeten political sentiment in the US towards Mexicans and the immigration issue. The same PR expert and GOP political consultant helped George W. Bush defeat Ann Richards for the governorship of Texas in 1994 and worked on both Bush's presidential campaigns.

Rob Allyn of Rob Allyn & Co. secretly engineered Fox's 2000 presidential victory and is closely tied with George W. Bush.

There can be no doubt that a foreign government is working in tandem with the government of the United States and a powerful, politically-connected public relations firm to manufacture consent and to hold back a growing grassroots movement to defend America's sovereignty.

The LA Times reported that Vicente Fox hired Allyn & Co. when the rumblings of immigration reform began to be heard in Congress. The firm was hired to create a mechanism to sway public opinion in favor of Mexico and Mexican immigrants into the U.S. at the same moment public concern over border security was beginning to reach a fever pitch. The timing is impeccable.

The legislation that Fox found so "shameful" is the very same that is being protested so vehemently by hundreds of thousands around the country. The mainstream media's massive protest coverage kept coming back to a few central themes: the protesters are against "criminalizing" the illegal crossing of U.S. borders and they are seeking a blanket amnesty for undocumented immigrants currently residing in the country. Fox turned to Allyn & Co. to push this very agenda.

An LA Times report on last December's announcement quotes Allyn (pictured) on his tactics on behalf of Fox,

''Our focus is on public opinion, which influences policy outcomes in Congress,'' said Allyn, 46, who grew up in Huntington Beach, Calif., and moved to Texas when he was in high school. "There is a huge misperception among the U.S. public about Mexico.''

Allyn set up a phony human rights front group called Democracy Watch, supposedly to "monitor" elections in Mexico. The group solicited donations and used the money to illegally sway the Mexican election in favor of Vicente Fox.

The scenes you will witness on the streets of America over the next few days do not illustrate a 'new civil rights movement' but an invading army of militant foreigners bankrolled and supported by predominantly white rich Neo-Cons and Neo-Libs who are using the different Mexican race groups as a vice to crush the sleeping American middle class.

The real agenda embraced by the ringleaders of the protests are still being whitewashed and covered up by the mainstream media.

The demonstrations are part of an orchestrated advance on the part of a race hate movement that seeks to enact a brutal program of ethnic cleansing that will wipe uncooperative whites and blacks from the south and western states off the map, as detailed in our previous article.

The Atzlan movement openly states its goal is to create a separatist state that encompasses the entire southern and western states. Their version of Hitler's Mein Kampf is the Plan of San Diego, which outlines the plan to ethnically cleanse the entire region of whites and blacks by mass genocide. Mecha's own slogan reads, "For the race everything. For those outside the race, nothing."

The catalyst for the agenda to intern millions of Americans deemed subversive in a time of manufactured chaos could be race riots kick-started by radicalized Mexican Klan groups and their establishment controllers.

During our reporting on the immigration protests that are a front for the violent separatist Atzlan movement, watching Spanish TV news stations we were able to ascertain that the marches were not wholly an organic response to the introduction of the immigration bill but were being artificially promoted and organized by the Spanish-language media.

The very next day the Associated Press reported that, "Many of the 500,000 people who crammed downtown Los Angeles on Saturday to protest legislation that would make criminals out of illegal immigrants learned where, when and even how to demonstrate from the Spanish-language media.

"For English-speaking America, the mass protests in Los Angeles and other U.S. cities over the past few days have been surprising for their size and seeming spontaneity."

"But they were organized, promoted or publicized for weeks by Spanish-language radio hosts and TV anchors as a demonstration of Hispanic pride and power."

Last week Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff dismissed concerns over repeated incursions onto US soil by the Mexican military and drug runners, calling claims of a border war "scare tactics."

Over the past few years there have been hundreds of incidents of rocket attacks, drive by shootings, murders of sheriffs and police chiefs and abductions of US citizens. If Al-Qaeda was engaging in this kind of behavior it would be all over the front pages without recourse.

Sheriff Rick Flores, whose jurisdiction includes vast swathes of the southern border, told the London Telegraph last week, "Yeah, it's a war."

"These people are sophisticated and they are organised. They wear body armour and helmets, just like our soldiers in Iraq. They have no respect for life and are not afraid of law enforcement on this side."

The National Executive Director of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps Al Garza calls the southern border a "warzone" and says that areas of south Texas and Arizona are more dangerous per capita than Israel's West Bank.

"We are virtually at war, we should in fact deploy our military to the borders. You do that and you will seize all these criminals and all these drug cartels that do what they want to do," Garza told The Alex Jones Show.

Mexican drug commando organization los Zetas (pictured) has been carrying out kidnappings of American citizens and politically motivated assassinations which have stretched from the border town of Nuevo Laredo through to Dallas, Houston and San Antonio all the way to Nashville, Tenn., and Atlanta, Ga.

Why would the US government make it easier for drug smuggling death squads to enter the country? Because the US government controls los Zetas and uses it as the front group for their narco-empire.

Retired DEA Agent Celerino "Cele" Castillo III served for 12 years in the Drug Enforcement Administration where he built cases against organized drug rings in Manhattan, raided jungle cocaine labs in the amazon, conducted aerial eradication operations in Guatemala, and assembled and trained anti-narcotics units in several countries.

Castillo affirms the truth is that they are still working for the US government in protecting drug routes to keep the wheels of Wall Street oiled. Castillo has gone on the record to state that the commandos are working directly for the US government drug cartel in carrying out hits on rival drug smugglers who aren't paying their cut.

This is why President Bush attacked the Minutemen as "vigilantes" and the Border Patrol in Arizona were ordered to stand down and not arrest people illegally crossing the border, in order to make the Minutemen look bad and ineffective.

Blindness to Racism: It's a White Thing, You Wouldn't Understand

What is it with the so-called Left in America? They're so tolerant of racism, and don't even recognize blatant racism.

The "peak oil" thing is a great example. Mike Ruppert et al are all concerned about oil running out, and the imminent collapse of civilization and suburbia. Well.... so what? LA is full of collapsed suburbias. It's where poor people live.

As we experience peak oil, it just means that many white people who ran away from their suburbs to go to other suburbs... will finally get to experience living without a car or access to air conditioned office jobs. Cry me a river.

Likewise, how are Leftists failing to see that Alex Jones is pretty racist?

Jones is against the expansion of the police state, but, this entire border issue is one huge step in the expansion of the police state. It will increase the power of police, require hiring more police, require building more prisons, and probably lead to mass detention centers. That's your prison planet right there. Is it less of a prison simply because the people detained won't be white?

The increase of this police state is the main reason why there are more undocumented immigrants than ever. The more you intensify class or caste divisions, the more that lower class becomes appealing as workers. They can be paid *more* money, and are still a bargain, because they are not going to upset business.

The way out of this isn't to create more borders, but to tear down the borders, to make workers more equal.

If those militia people really are upset at the rip off the Mexican elite are playing on the Mexicans... maybe the militias should make alliance with the people of Mexico who are here, instead of going racist on them.

Mr. Alex Jones is becoming a real nuisance to the ruling class.
It was okay when he was in the pocket of the Libertarian party or promoted excuses for global warming by inferring a solar peak, rather than CO2 burdens in the atmosphere.
But lord, he went too far. He has started to see the fabric of control and the forces behind it, like the well orchestrated marches and the very predictable racist response in the media. He pointed out the coordination of the elite spanish media to bring these people out into the streets,

I disagree with many of his ideological planks but we have to realize that if we don't expose the cancer that has taken command of our nation, only more terror is on the way from these creatures.
In the treason of 9-11, Alex and I are in solidarity.
The other misconceptions he has are remediable and subject to further enlightenment... Listening to him, he seems rather tame ( to address various knuckle dragging incredibly mud fucking racist and ignorant people that will be out there until the end of time but can be taught different modes of perception, if one is patient and the recipient not being mentally damaged ) for a Texan.
The only issue of this nation, upon which the entire garment of deceit and terror is framed on, which can be pulled apart and what all the other crimes and criminality are woven into...the outrage the nation needs.
Treason at the top.

9-11 was treason.

you know it would be great if all of the immigration hubbub was working towards workers rights across the board....but its not. i have a feeling that if and when open immigration is allowed that will be the end of it. the bold immigration movement will stop there....no huge marches for better pay, no "1 million" people in the streets for health coverage and no major calls for ALL workers to have overall better working conditions. i havent heard anything about this movement trying to improve immigrant conditions and definitely not the conditions of legal workers..... just that we should allow anyone and everyone "in".

its my opinion that if corporations can move money freely across boarders that people ALONG with their unions should be able to do the same...globalize should also include workers rights. the immigration movement isn't concerned with such things. if it wants to have an even larger effect it should embrace workers rights also and begin moving toward or at least stating an end common goal. as it is, most whites, blacks and even some latinos cant get behind this shifting platform. theres no clear goal and no benefit for most people to get involved. the movement also comes off as very standoffish. with its la raza, mexican flag waiving, we were here first chanting. i think its a little late for that. these things wont gain support....only alienate those who otherwise may be sympathetic.

people need to unite over worker conditions and by allowing a mass of people who only want to come and work, not improve standards, it will drive everyone else down. people need to unite against corporations and this sham government not each other. if americas gov and multi national corps didnt go into mexico and every other south and central american country; stage coups, kidnap, disappear people, destroy the environment, and prop up murderous regimes THERE WOULD BE NO IMMIGRATION. weve succeeded in making things suck so bad in "their" country that they have no choice but to come "here" and try to do better....who can blame them.

on the issue of jones and 911. listen to what he has to say....you dont have to agree with everything but at least listen and research it. hes done his homework. he has some good points...he also has some which i dont agree with, but those are opinion....not fact. no person can be wrapped up in a nice little box and summarized as such. there are many sides to any individual.

And yes, they could be very dangerous...because we trained them in the U.S. at the School of the Americas at Fort Benning, Georgia.

That's right. We find people of questionable moral character so that we can train them to go and assassinate/murder drug cartels. Then we send them into Mexico where there are enormous profits available in the drug trade to those who are ruthless and well trained! ........ but oops they defected yes people los Zetas and los Kaibiles are product of the united states.

Why was this thread taken off the front page? I've never seen that done before, on ANY imc.

Wrong question, sw...

The Question is "How did this paranoid right wing racist crap, which is in violation of Indymedia standards and alleged purposes, get in the center column in the First Place??

Bush: "9-11 The Aayraabs did it. 9-11 the Eyerackies did it. Y'all believe it fer Jesus and Yull git tuh Heaven."

The symposium in LA is another stake into the heart of the lies of this gangster state. We must unite over this critical issue.

Other issues like the racist divisions being promoted ( by the commercial media ) are ancillary and a symptom of the nature of this systems of lies which we have another chance to tear down.

First we must breach the walls around the public's awareness of these lies in order to free the public from the commercial media mind set that each one of us that sees the evil and lies and it's attendant complicity in these treasonous events, are not alone.
The treason of 9-11 is also a parallel indictment of the same criminals running the private commercial media who are the enemies of truth.
Once we break 9-11 open everything they have built on these lies will collapse.

9-11 was treason. Against us the People.

Actually "El Profe", you pathetic little worm, I don't think the 9/11 Truth movement has anything at all to do with racism. Let's stick to the topic, right? Oh wait, you're cointelpro, it's your job to interrupt the flow of truthful information. You stupid little weasel, get a real job.

I think Jones is wrong about the elite Spanish language media. It was the Spanish radio DJs who supported the idea proposed by the organizers, and that idea was, basically, copied from the right-wing radio hosts, John and Ken, who have been organizing anti-Mexican demos for years.

The Spanish media did not support the May 1 action, until it was obvious that the public support for it was large. They were against the work boycott. The mayor of LA was against the general strike, and organized a second demo to disperse some of the energy.

Despite every "official" channel saying "no boycott", the big general strike happened, and, for America it was very good. It was in the spirit of the original May Day, and the Haymarket martyrs. It strengthened the position of the labor-progressive-antipoverty tendency within the movement (by default, the undocumented non-voters power often comes via proxy from the small business owners who employ them). It was also an educational experience for most of the million or so people who saw the largest demonstration of people power in their life.

The people are in the lead, and taking action using their power as workers. The politicians and media are trying to catch up and not look "out of touch."

Second, for all his paranoia about the police state / prison planet, it's anti-immigration forces that promote a huge expansion of the police state and prison planet. The police state is demonstrably racist, not only right now, but historically as well. Jones has done all this research on Nazi Germany, but, doesn't seem to find a strong parallel in the racism of their camps, and the call for deportation, which, on websites like SOS, are clearly racial.

He's blinded to racism by his strong nationalism -- or it could be that he likes racist explanations so he can justify a closed-borders nationalism. Or, more likely, he simply has a lot of fans who have a strong law-and-order mindset, and who don't particularly like Mexican culture or immigrants, and he's giving them what they want, which is anger against foreigners.

Last, I have a gripe: the conference is a commercial event. The single ticket price is $74. What is this? A populist movement open only to affluent people? Did they really have to host it at the Sheraton?

Well, I did say that he has a certain special interests agenda.
Also the point about ticket prices is somewhat of a point, until free concerts about 9-11 come up, that's what we have going on now.
I've already gone on about Mr. Jones in other threads as well as Dave Emory, but the major point I am making is this; we cannot afford to exclude any front on this war of lies, and exploit it, not letting it exploit us.
As I always say racism is the major card in the enemies deck and we should confront it anytime anyplace and not be afraid to look it in the eye and challenge it when it comes up. This is about pulling the plug on the heart valve of their lies.
And I have said that we can join the power of these people if we can also awaken them to the larger stage of the gangster state.

What part of the "war on terror" as a pretext for the Nazi-style deportation of migrants don't you understand?

"Truth" my ass. Your "line" covers the truth, as in covers it UP.

As I understand it some 60,000 immigrants from the Muslim and Arab worlds have already been deported. As I read the Minutemen, and I am sad to say I read their crap daily, one of the main pretexts for the coming deportations is the notion that migrants are "terrorists."

It is impossible to know what is true from a white wing, sorry, right wing, perspective.