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Black / Brown Unity Overtakes Ted Hayes' anti-MIgrant Demo in Leimert Park

by Juan Santos Monday, Apr. 24, 2006 at 2:03 PM

A spontaneous eyewitness report.

Black Republican Ted Hayes and his Minutemen allies held an anti-migrant demonstration in Leimert Park today, which was outnumbered by a spontaneous gathering of African Americans who opposed them by a margin of 2 to 1.

Black women danced and led a chorus chanting "No Human Being is Illegal." A man of African descent brought signs and maps and images of Native Americans and proclaimed, as he held up one of the photos beside a Mexican man's face "They're not illegal - this is their land!"

A white man in a Nazi-style biker helmet threatened one Chicano, asking, "Are you ready to die for your cause? You'd better be because we're going to put a bayonet up your ass and slit your throat! It's going to be war. Are you ready?"

Another white man - an anti-migrant - was asked, "How many times have you been in the Black community"? His answer; "This is the first time: does it show"? "Yes," he was told.

The area of the official demonstration was marked off by yellow police tape, and by far the greatest number of people were on the other side of the line, where fierce, honest and beautiful debate were the order of the day.

African sisters and brothers put their hearts and minds on the line calling for unity; exposed the history of slavery and genocide at the hands of Europe that Black and Brown share; demanded answers to the realities of Brown discrimination against Blacks; dealt frankly with the "Land Question," and that the US had siezed the Nothern half of Mexico in order to extend slavery; spoke bitterly about Black / Brown rivalries in prison and among gangs; talked aloud about the driving down of wages; insisted that Mexicans took no one's job - that the jobs had been shipped overseas, and "I don't know about you but I'm not working for no six dollars an hour."

One African American man in his fifties spoke with urgent reality about Black survival, saying "Every nation in the world has been trained to be against Black people... they are wiping us out in Africa today... it would have been better if they had killed us all instead of freeing us from slavery, instead of putting my father through what he went through... if you want to relate to me, you have to listen to me, you have to respect me..."

Others discussed Ted Hayes' backward influence in the community. Some resented that he had brought this demonstration to Leimert Park, because they said, it made it appear as if the conscious Black community is behind him. Haye's assistant on the improvised stage had worn a Malcolm X hat and a George Bush / Dick Cheney election pin on his jacket.

One African man brought a contract that he felt should be signed by members of the Black and Brown communities, each pledging to support the other's cause. He called for an all-night discussion on April 30th to forge unity for the May 1 Gran Boicot / Huelga General. A planning meeting for the event had been held only the day before in the same park that now hosted Hayes and the Minutemen.

The minister of a nearby Black church declared that his congregation sheltered three families of migrants, insisting that such is the word of God, and that whatever Ted Hayes and company were preaching, it was most certainly not the word of God.

Backed into a corner, Hayes allowed a Chicano man to speak from the improvised "stage," to the small crowd that gathered around it. Europeans had killed a hundred million Africans between the Middle Passage and the Conquest of Africa, the crowd was reminded, and the same numbers of Native Americans had died in the Conquest of the Americas - history's two most massive genocides.

Mainstream media, English and Spanish, were everywhere, and for anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear it was clear that the real event today was the struggle over the question of immigration within the African community, not the momentary unity between a trinkle of Black Republicans and their Minutemen allies. As one Black man put it, "those Minutemen hate us just as bad as they do you."

By the event's end Hayes led his supporters in a for-show-only march for the cameras around the perimeter of the park. Only 23 people marched with him, and 1/5 of that number white Minutemen. Only the Minutemen and two or three Blacks had brought American flags: the rest were car-window style flags handed out on the spot from a box the organizers had brought.

Another seventy people refused to join the march, continued to speak among themselves, and began to celebrate, Black and Brown together, as African drums began to roll, and as plans were laid to unite the Black and Brown communities in a common demonstration for their rights.

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No race is not racist

by Manuel Monday, Apr. 24, 2006 at 4:04 PM

I dont know who you are referring to in brown-skin people. Because Mexico is a mix of brown skin of various heritage. SHould we also hate brown people of spanish heritiage too?

Youre goal appears to be to unify the black community and brown community against whites, because the white were so oppresive and killed millions.. INteresting strategy considering MExico routinely kills migrants from guatemala, because of their darker skin

I dont think blacks are stupid enough to believe in your race baiting. Mexicans have forced blacks out of LA. The population of blacks in LA has dropped by 25% in the last 25 years, while latinos have gone from 600,000 to 1.6 million. ANd blacks are not leaving because they want to.
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Republicans, SOS, hate groups

by divide & conquer the working class Monday, Apr. 24, 2006 at 4:32 PM

Anyone can wear the fascist boots of oppression, regardless of their skin color or ethnicity. We witness this most often with African-americans who blindly follow the Republican party dogma. Condi Rice is the perfect example of African-americans being selected by authority figures (plantation owners) to betray and oppress other Africans (here & overseas) in return for greater benefits from their "master". Nothing suits Republicans better than to setting one ethnic group against another and watch them fight it out. Especially when the group members are of the working class. Fortunately in this scenario cooler heads prevailed and unity across ethnic boundaries prevailed..

Would like to mention that the terms "black" and "white" to describe ethnic groups further serves to polarize people. Have yet to see someone who is 100 percent black or 100 percent white. Do the "blacks" and "whites" fight their ethnic battles on a patterned chessboard tablecloth in US prisons? Then we also have the "reds" and "yellows" and "browns", what if someone is ethnically mixed, do we call them "reddish brown" or "yellowish white"? When does someone qualify as an "orange"? What does a "Code Red" on Homeland Security mean, do we expect the "Reds" to come after the "Yellows"? In between them hide the "Oranges"? Get the idea??

Color coding people further isolates, there's nothing wrong with having an awareness of where people are from, "Euro-american", "African-american", Asian-american", "Latino", "Indigenous-american", etc. Enough with the quotation marks already, eh?

We are all different yet similar. Ethnic or racial identity is expressed as a phenotype in varied body, facial, hair and skin characteristics. This is a natural process of evolution, adaptation to climate, etc... We also witness this phenotype diversity in many other species. Only recent human societies have made such a big fuss over it. Children themselves don't notice these physical differences until pointed out by older peers and/or adults..

The current fixation of neo-Nazi groups like SOS, Stormfront, etc. on ethnicity also leads them to hijack symbolism for their non-existant cause. The 'swastika' never belonged to Hilter or the Nazi party of WW2 Germany, it is an ancient symbol used by many ethnic cultures in different continents. The actual Aryans that Hilter idolized were no longer a cohesive ethnic group for centuries before Hitler chose the swastika to represent modern day Germans. However, in modern day, it is impossible to not identify the swastika with racism, facsism and genocide and some obscure group called "Aryans". Those negative connotations are not what the swastika represented pre-Hitler..

The Minutemen/SOS anti-immigrant groups have hijacked the "Don't Tread on Me" snake flag used in the US Revolutionary War against the British Empire. The snake flag is generally understood to mean resistance to tyranny, not scapegoating of immigrants..

The Minutemen/SOS agenda is increasingly suspect when continued appeals for them to investigate the actual cause of undocumented immigration are ignored. Economic inequality and poverty from NAFTA/WTO globalization policies that bribe government juntas into accepting structural adjustment programs from US corporations that result in millions of landless peasants around the world is the primary reason for undocumented immigration. Maquiladora sweatshops nor below minimum wage farm labor on agribusiness in el norte will solve the problems of economic inequality. Minutemen/SOS promote the ineffective band-aid solution of the border wall patrols and broadcast racial supremecy "manifest destiny" psuedo-patriotic dogma instead of protesting either the corporations profiting from globalization or the politicians that continue the cycle of economic inequalty across the human created borders..

To make it worse, the heirarchal leadership of Minutemen/SOS also recruits working class Euro-american youth to misdirect their anger at recent immigrants instead of focusing their anger where it belongs; the wealthy elite corporate CEOs and their political puppets like GW Bush regime. This was/is the same tactic used by many other neo-Nazi groups, including WW2 Nazi Germany. This process of misdirecting a dominant ethnic group's working class anger towards scapegoats (immigrants, Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, etc..) prevented working class outrage from collective organizing across ethnic boundaries against corporate monopoly (Thyssen-Krupp, Ford, Rockefeller, IG Farben) both then and now..

When people talk about the GW Bush regime being the "Fourth Reich", they're not kidding. We witness almost a parallel series of events from WW2 Nazi Germany's Third Reich to the modern USA. The Minutemen/SOS are but one manifestation of this backwards slide towards fascism. Unity between ethnic groups and working class solidarity can and will challenge the forces of facsism..
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dark skin

by Mataguero Monday, Apr. 24, 2006 at 7:12 PM
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Mexicans kill Guatemalans because of their dark skin? Hahaha you are talking out of your a** Guatemalans are just as dark as Mexicans you lame, I am from Guatemala and what you are saying is a bunch of bull. Our countries are just as indigenous and just as brown.
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You dont think Mexicans are racist?

by Manuel Monday, Apr. 24, 2006 at 11:30 PM

Guatemalan migrants were recently killed in Mexico by death squads. Open your eyes

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060418/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/mexico_mistreating_migrants
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HAYES ASSAULT

by Hijo del Jornalero Tuesday, Apr. 25, 2006 at 12:21 AM

Saw on the TV news that Ted Hayes assaulted someone - you could see him come into the frame and then push this white guy back several feet. The news gave no explanation other than that the rally got tense.

Hayes is an egomaniac and a hothead who thinks he's a "star."

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Channel 9 coverage

by El Chivo Tuesday, Apr. 25, 2006 at 8:39 AM

Video of Channel 2/9 coverage of the protest
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pix from sunday

by anahuac warrior Tuesday, Apr. 25, 2006 at 9:31 AM

pix from sunday...
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hayes and his other "house boys" were trying to perform for the cameras when the counter-protestor joined them and held up his own sign and started denouncing the event. hayes and some biker guy i believe was at the burbank home depot protest on saturday, attacked the guy for no good reason. i was surprised that no one was arrested, or that the guy did not want to press charges. shows his character.
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more pix

by anahuac warrior Tuesday, Apr. 25, 2006 at 9:32 AM

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hayes attacking the man.
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opposition pix

by anahuac warrior Tuesday, Apr. 25, 2006 at 9:56 AM

opposition pix...
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the following pix is one of the beautiful women who showed up to denounce hayes. she was tenacious and was unfazed by their insults.
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more oppositin pix

by anahuac warrior Tuesday, Apr. 25, 2006 at 9:58 AM

more oppositin pix...
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later in the day, more area residents appeared and voiced their opposition to the rally.
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more pix

by anahuac warrior Tuesday, Apr. 25, 2006 at 10:00 AM

more pix...
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this woman was great. she was pissed off at hayes and wasn't afraid to let him know it!! she also disrupted the press conference earlier, but was not manhandled like the other guy was.
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mas pix

by anahuac warrior Tuesday, Apr. 25, 2006 at 10:05 AM

mas pix...
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the rally at points turned into a huge shouting match. illustrating how emotional this issue is. in my opinion, some of the neiborhood people supporting hayes had legitimate fears and anger, but supporting paramilitary groups at the border is not the answer. ted hayes is an opportunist who is attempting to use people for his own political/financial ambitions.
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pix

by anahuac warrior Tuesday, Apr. 25, 2006 at 10:08 AM

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here is the guy referred to earlier in the article. he recently moved here from arizona. outsiders causing trouble. if he dosen't like it here, perhaps he should leave.
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final pix for now

by anahuac warrior Tuesday, Apr. 25, 2006 at 10:13 AM

final pix for now...
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this is a pix i took on saturday in burbank. i believe this guy was at the rally sunday--sans mask--and was the guy who threatened the author of this article. he also threatened me on sunday. took my picture and promised to "take care of me." whatever. i have his pix from sunday, but i don't have it with me right now. i'm 99% sure this is the same guy. i'll post the other pix later, so people can keep an eye out for him at future events.
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Hayes' Coordinated Assault + "Apology"

by Juan Santos Tuesday, Apr. 25, 2006 at 11:22 AM



Hayes' assault on the pro amnesty activist - shown in crystal clarity in this video, occured shortly before the rally was scheduled to occur.

One can see in this very graphic and vivid video that a large heavy set white man first begins to manhandle the amnesty supporter in cooperation with Hayes, then as Hayes, moments later, begins to shove the activist, the large white man has his arms wrapped around the activist, dragging him backwards, in what gives every appearance of a coordinated assault.

This is the same man, in different headgear, referred to in the earlier report in this incident:

"A white man in a Nazi-style biker helmet threatened one Chicano, asking, "Are you ready to die for your cause? You'd better be because we're going to put a bayonet up your ass and slit your throat! It's going to be war. Are you ready?"

This person may be a Save Our State member who calls himself "SS187," who posted on the SOS website's forum that he had the choke hold on the activist.

Below is Haye's formal apology for the assault. No mention of the apparently coordinated nature of the assault. Also, he hypocrtically tries to place equal blame for the assault on the pro-amnesty activist ...

Hayes writes:

To Whomever This May Concern,

“Agree with your adversary quickly, while you are in the way with him; lest at anytime the adversary deliver you to the judge, and the judge deliver you to the officer, and you be cast into prison.” (Mathew 5:23-25-26 Jesus Christ)

On Sunday, April 23,2006 around 12:30 PM, prior to an anti-illegal immigration rally in Lemert Park in South Central Los Angeles hosted by the newly formed Crispus Attucks Brigade (CAB), during a very heated and emotional moment, I behaved myself in a very undignified manner.

My actions during that moment, though provoked by an outside agitator was unnecessary, but rather reckless and counter productive to the whole discussion or debate around the legalities of immigration into the United States of America, primarily by Mexican citizens. I have no excuse.

Though I remorseful and sincerely apologize and deeply regret my negative behavior, that damage to myself and most importantly to the cause that I represent has been done. I take full responsibility for embarrassing behavior. I apologize, ask and hope forgiveness from the following persons and entities:

• The Lord my GOD and Father in Jesus Christ for being disobedient to HIS Word of peace and humility, especially in time of adversity when my ego and patience is being tried. I have failed that test. I ask HIM for HIS mercy upon me.

• The gentleman with whom I had the altercation! Though invited by him to take the actions that I foolishly did, I nevertheless was wrong and I do apologize to him.

• The Mexican/Latino, American Black, White, and any other communities for my behavior;

• Homeless peoples for my poor representation of them;

• My family, who has endured watching my untoward behavior on television;

• The participants of the Crispus Attucks Brigade;
• The Republican Party

• As a member and supporter of the Minute Man Project (MMP) a very worthy organization defending the borders and ideals of the United States of America, I apologize for my awful representation. My behavior in no way is a representation nor any reflection of the good and wonderful work of the Minute Man Project.

• My actions were way out of line of MMP policies. Therefore, with much regret and sorrow, I offer my resignation from the Minute Man Project organization, because I want its name protected.

I hope that I can be restored to the work that I was doing prior to my rebellion and fall.

Thank you for your understanding, patience and hopefully…your forgiveness!
Sincerely in Truth
Ted Hayes


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Nobody was driven out by immigrants

by Karen Tuesday, Apr. 25, 2006 at 11:57 AM

African-Americans began leaving Los Angeles after the riots because the government didn't rebuild their neighborhoods.

In addition, both the City of Los Angeles and the County of Los Angeles implemented a hiring freeze in the 90s because of federal cutbacks to cities and states.

African-Americans are employed in the public sector in large numbers, so these cutbacks had a disproportionate effect.

In anddition, when the Cold war ended in the late 80s, defense jobs were either eliminated or sent to other states like Georgia.


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good chance that is him

by anahuac warrior Tuesday, Apr. 25, 2006 at 12:15 PM

"This person may be a Save Our State member who calls himself "SS187," who posted on the SOS website's forum that he had the choke hold on the activist."

pretty good bet that is him. i did witness the big white guy putting the counter-protestor into a headlock. hayes and the nazi attacked him at the same time.
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Build the Black and Brown Alliance for Justice and Human Rights!

by Black Worker's League Tuesday, Apr. 25, 2006 at 1:24 PM

Build the Black and Brown Alliance for Justice and Human Rights!

Hurricane Katrina was a 21st Century snapshot of the genocidal direction of the US government. It exposed the reality of conditions faced by working class African Americans and peoples of color under US style democracy. It also creates a new sense of urgency to mobilize power outside of the electoral arena to challenge racist and repressive legislation like HR 4437. There has yet to be a massive upsurge that expresses the deep outrage of the African American masses against the US government for this crime against humanity.

The US government’s cutting of funds to repair Gulf Coast levees led to hundreds of avoidable deaths of working class African Americans and poor people and massive destruction of homes, personal belongings and social institutions by the flood waters of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita. Now the government wants to enact legislation to allocate funds to construct a 700-mile wall of death along the US-Mexican border and racist policies to keep Mexican and Latino workers out and to further marginalize them within the US economy and political system. These are two sides of the same US imperialist system of national oppression.

At the heart of the conditions faced by the African Americans in the Gulf Coast and throughout the Black Belt South, is the role that the South has played for centuries as a center for US exploitation; super exploiting Black labor and squeezing super profits out of every aspect of Black life leaving little to no resources for healthcare, education, housing and other infrastructure for addressing human needs. The rapidly growing immigrant Latino population in the South also suffers and is oppressed by these long standing and racist conditions that are further intensified by language and cultural oppression.

The upsurge among Latinos throughout the US against the criminalization and attacks on undocumented Mexican and Latino immigrants and the political tone of resistance it is setting, must be seen as a direct challenge to the Bush led government and corporate agenda that left thousands of African Americans to die in the Gulf Coast—and who tried to make them the scapegoat for the governments deliberate neglect and failed evacuation. The Reconstruction movement developing in the Gulf Coast and among African Americans nationally must embrace and unite with this mass upsurge as a call to action for all of the oppressed to boldly resist repression and genocide.

Let’s be clear. The corporations want to super exploit immigrant workers. They just don’t want to be responsible for paying them the value of their labor or to provide social services and basic democratic rights that enable them to survive and raise their families. They are using the anti immigrant legislation to mask the truth about the massive unemployment and the crises facing US workers and the huge financial debt of the government that has been caused by corporate bailouts, restructuring and imperialist wars—trying to make immigrants the scapegoats for the crisis. This criminalization is also aimed at creating a xenophobic (hate of foreigners) against the rising tide of change developing throughout Latin and South America that challenges US global policies.

The efforts by the US government and corporate media to divide African Americans and Latinos are no accident and should not be ignored. They try to make each community feel that it is more deserving than the other of the crumbs and political status given them by the two major political parties and US government. By centering all politics on elections, one community is played against the other by projecting them as voting blocks. Witness the media mantra over the past 4 years: “The rising number of Latino voters threatens to end both GOP and Democratic courting of the black vote and could push concerns specific to Blacks to the sidelines.” (Pacific News Service April 10, 2006, Earl Ofari)

Yet, the wages of workers of both communities are the lowest; and their institutions and public services are the most neglected by local, state and federal government. The regions where the majorities of African Americans and Latinos have lived since the founding of the US—the South and Southwest are where the working class are most economically exploited, politically oppressed, systematically disenfranchised and suffer the most brutal racist treatment. The unity of these two communities would constitute a major political force for human rights and global justice.

US corporations have closed hundreds of plants in the US and moved them to Mexico to exploit cheap labor and have impose economic policies on the Mexican government like NAFTA that has caused massive unemployment for many agricultural workers and small farmers in Mexico. These plant closings have created massive unemployment in the North and Midwest especially among African American workers causing the deterioration of major urban inner cities. This has fostered a reverse migration of many Black workers back to the South since 1970. Both migrations result from US economic oppression in the US and Mexico.

The dispersal of thousands of mainly African Americans throughout the US from the Gulf Coast was a racist act using the disaster to carry out a form of ethnic cleansing—trying to eliminate the Black majority in New Orleans and the Gulf Coast in the interest of white political rule and corporate profits. The evacuees are experiencing government abuses—forced evictions, voting rights obstacles and racist treatment from FEMA with no organization or political base to resist from without the support of activist forces within the African American liberation and progressive social movements in the various cities.

Like the undocumented Immigrant Latino workers, the media has criminalized Hurricane Katrina and Rita Survivors, labeling them as “rapists”, “drug dealers” and “con artists” “invading” other people’s cities and communities. This criminalization is done to take attention off of the government abuses and corporate corruption and to try and justify government repression. African American evacuees from the Gulf Coast have become internal US “immigrants” with an uncertain future.

Forced migration has been part of the reality of oppressed nationalities in the US, beginning with the Native Americans who were forced off their traditional lands and African Americans many being forced out of the South where they lived and worked for more than 300 years. The “illegal” label placed on undocumented immigrants by the US government and white supremacists should be rejected in the vocabularies of all oppressed nationalities in particular and all working people in general.

It is important to point out within the African American community the important role played by Mexico in the struggle against slavery. When Mexico won its independence from Spain in 1821, it banned slavery throughout its country. Thousands of runaway slaves went into Mexico to escape slavery. This angered Southern plantation owners and the US government who declared that white supremacy should be the law of the land—promoting “Manifest Destiny” as its imperialist slogan. Mexico’s opposition to slavery was a factor leading to the US government’s military invasion of Mexico in the 1840s and its annexation of 1/3 of Mexico’s country. Even in defeat, Mexico refused to include a provision to return runaway slaves in the peace treaty following the US and Mexican war. African Americans must also support the right of Mexican and Latino immigrants to cross the US border without repression and criminalization in search of work and social needs to support their families.

The struggle against the US system of oppression is not a competition between the oppressed to declare themselves as the leaders of the struggle. The initiative from any sector of the oppressed must be seen as an opening for all of the oppressed to come forward and intensify their struggles.

Yes, there must be recognition that these are two independent movements with their own demands and leaderships. However, there must also be a conscious effort to develop an understanding and practical work to build the political and strategic links and interdependence of these movements as a force for progressive social change throughout the US and for global justice. Workers and pressed peoples throughout the world have been desperately hoping for such a powerful interconnecting movement to develop inside of the US.

Reconstruction in the Gulf Coast must not be just a physical rebuilding project, rebuilding institutions and social relations as they were prior to the disaster. It must be a movement to build people’s democratic control of resources, policies and institutions based on self determination that involves the Black majority and working class masses in deciding the terms and conditions of their Reconstruction. It must fight for democratic rights and worker protections for undocumented immigrants and must include them in the discussions and mass decision making processes of the Reconstruction movement in the Gulf Coast and among the dispersed Survivors.

This Reconstruction movement in the Gulf Coast must help to point out the need for the complete Reconstruction of the whole of US society and contribute to the building of such a movement. This will help people to better understand the importance of the struggle against racism and for African American self-determination in bringing this about.

This Reconstruction movement must draw on one of the most progressive periods in US history – the African American and white progressive led Reconstruction era in the South after the Civil War. These governments were the first to assure free public education for all people, gave women the vote and built public institutions that were open to all without discrimination.

As the two largest and super-exploited nationally oppressed communities inside the US, the fate of African Americans and Latinos are connected, especially under a system that is rapidly eliminating democratic rights and labeling all peoples of color as potential “terrorists.” Black and Brown unity will help to expose the deep racist nature of US democracy and raise the bar of the struggle against racism among those who really want radical change.

The call for a May 1st national boycott of jobs, businesses and schools is a protest against the US government’s repressing of people’s human rights and relegating them to needs to racism and corporate greed. It is a call to action for people to boldly challenge a government that criminalizes people for trying to work to support their families; that would leave its people to die in the Gulf Coast, and that spends billions for wars to kill and dominate the world.

May 1st – “May Day” – is celebrated by millions of workers throughout the world to express the need for worker solidarity in the struggles for workers rights and human rights. It began based on a struggle by US workers in the 1880’s for the eight-hour day and in opposition to government repression against the labor movement. The May 1st Boycott must also be a mobilization that calls for a major campaign to build Black and Brown unity as an anchor for the unity of people of color and workers in struggling for human rights and global justice.

Boycott Against Immigrant Repression and for Gulf Coast Reconstruction!



This statement was written by a member of the Black Workers League a political collective engaged in work in the trade union movement, Black political power movement and other social justice movements in North Carolina, parts of the US South and a few areas throughout the country. For more information write P.O. Box 934 Rocky Mount, NC 27802. 4/18/06
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Another Thing

by jjj Wednesday, Apr. 26, 2006 at 9:37 AM

There was a big exodus of African Americans to the Inland Empire. Houses were inexpensive, loans were affordable, and there's Metrorail.
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Tom Tancredo

by anti-tom Wednesday, Apr. 26, 2006 at 9:38 AM

Tom Tancredo...
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Tom Tancredo
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Re: Black Worker's League

by briliant Wednesday, Apr. 26, 2006 at 9:52 AM

That's a brilliant idea!
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"Hello all, SS187 here with ya...."

by Nazi Hunter Saturday, Apr. 29, 2006 at 12:54 AM




SS187 has made it plain who he is in relation to the Leimert Park demo. If anyone is going to go to the Crenshaw/ Slauson event, first be careful, second, take a camera; SS187 will be there, he says on the same page as the excerpt below, without a mask.

http://www.saveourstate.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=10502




"Hello all, SS187 here with ya....

The other evening I placed a call to Sister Herron who happens to be the point to for the Mothers On The March rally to take place on Friday 4/28 - Noon, at Crenshaw & Slauson.

The reason for this call was primarily to introduce myself to her as the big White biker looking dude that was at Ted Hayes' event earlier this week (4/23) at Leimert Park. Before I could could say another word her voice across the phone cheerfully said, "Oh I remember you, you're the one with the big US Marine Flag! I am so glad you called." I then asked Sister Herron if she was there when that scuffle broke out between Ted Hayes, myself, and a dissenter from the opponents side (who happened to be a White man). Sister Herron told me she saw what happened as she was just then pulling up to the park when this occured. I apologized to Sister Herron and told her that I meant no disrespect at all to the Hood for doing this. Sister Herron told me that although that's not what were about, it has been excused..."
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ss187??

by anahuac warrior Saturday, Apr. 29, 2006 at 2:36 PM

ss187??...
ss187.jpg, image/jpeg, 600x400

i believe these two individuals are the same. i have no proof, but i do know that the guy with the beard is the one who attacked the counter-protestor along with ted hayes. keep an eye out.
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ss187??

by anahuac warrior Saturday, Apr. 29, 2006 at 2:39 PM

ss187??...
ss187.jpgelepud.jpg, image/jpeg, 600x400

i believe these two individuals are the same. i have no proof, but i do know that the guy with the beard is the one who attacked the counter-protestor along with ted hayes. keep an eye out.
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WOW DUde

by Ted Hayes Saturday, Apr. 29, 2006 at 8:09 PM
Tedhayes@domevillage.org 213-892-9011

Hello Juan Santos,....Shalom in Jerusalem,

WOW! You BIG-TIME lied about those numbers dude, and practically everything esle.

Lying does not work. GOD will deal with you though.

I pray HIS Mercy upon you.

Love always,

Ted
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LOL!

by Hijo de Zapata Saturday, Apr. 29, 2006 at 8:48 PM

Wow, Ted.

I was in Burbank th e other day when you said you were going to hunt us down with Buffalo Soldiers then you said how much you minutepunks "love" us.

Like that, huh?

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Latino Brother

by La Raza Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 1:58 PM

Dear African , White Europeans, Asian, Latin, MIddle Eastern, and Native American Indian Blooded Brothers; Jews, Christian , Muslim, Buddhist:Citizens of the World:

PLease be aware that The anti-immigration protests driven by the ignorance of the "few" retarded and hateful Minuteman cann't be ignored. History has showed us time after time that Racism and Hate are counter productive feelings and activities who would only lead to crimes and War; at the end, nobody wins.
To those White Europeans brothers and Sisters, do not allow emotions and, or the negative propaganda that day after day the likes of Fox News commentators preach into your brains become the basis for your formulation of ideas. Do not permit the likes of the Minuteman, KKK, Nazi, or even the hardcore Republican selfserving Congressman mislead you that they are looking after you or the betterman of the Country. Please do not become such an easy prey. READ, EDUCATE YOURSELF, INFORM YOURSELF. Television Networks are NOT the best source of information. The reason why the avearge White European middle class worker do not get pay $50 dollars an hour is not because the Native American Mexicans, Central American or South Americans are are either taking your jobs or lowering your wages BUT becasue the REPUBLICAN GOVERMENT you so clealry support decided to move the manufacturing insfrastructure to CHINA. ANd off-course this is called :GLOBALIZATION. It is rather shameful and sad when I see the people supporting the Minuteman Cause that are composed of middle class White Europeans usually in their 50's waving their United States Flags hoping that the likes of BIll Gates or Corpporate American will give them a call and say :Hey, Do you want a Job that pays $50 dollars an hr. for cleaning Windows? These poor people will never get this call simply beacuse their $50 dollars a hour Cleaning Windows job was either send to CHINA or given to a hard working, honest, and dedicated Native American from the American Continent, NOT Europe.

If You really wnat to protest against your Goverment about your standard of living decreasing protest against the following:

1. WHY DO YOU CONTINUE SHIPPING OUR JOBS TO CHINA?

2. WHY GAS PRICES CONTINUE TO GO UP ?

3. WHY THE POOR ELDERLY CONTINUES TO GET THE WRONG SIDE OF THE STICK WHEN IT COMES TO HEALTHCARE ?

4. WHY OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM SUCKS ?

5. WHY IS IT THAT THE UNITED STATES PREACHES SPEAK ENGLISH ONLY WHEN EUROPEANS AS WELL AS ALL OTHER NATIONS ARE ENCOURAGED TO LEARN AND SPEAK MORE THAN ONE LEANGUAGE ? AND SO ON AND SO FORTH....

All the above issues got nothing to do with the poor Latinos being in this Country, it has to do with you, the White European individual thinking that the World stills yours.

Please inform yourself, read history, watch lesss television and btry to be a better Christian.

I do not care how much Racist you are, the bottom line in these time of Globalization has to do with making a profit, if you do not get this by now, then I do not know what to tell you. Corporations, THe Rich, THe Investor, the Politicina etc. THEY DO ONOT CARE WHAT COLOR YOU ARE OR WHAT YOU HAD FOR BREAKSFAST, THEY COULD CARE LESS IF YOU ARE WHITE EITHER, THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT MONEY !!!!!!!!!!!MAKING A PROFIT. AND IF CHEAP LABOR WILL MAKE THEM MORE MONEY, THEY WILL GO FOR, NOW IF YOU OPPOSSE IT, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE THESE JOBS OVER CHINA.

You should also take into consideration that the cheap labor produced by Latinos is going to pay for your Social Security, without Latinos, you will absolutely be joining the thosusands of homeless people living in Los Angeles. AND THE ONLY PEOPLE TO BLAME IS YOU BECUASE YOU DID NOT GET A GOOD EDUCATION OR INVESTED YOUR MONEY WISELY DURING YOUR YOUTH. SORRY. IT IS NOT THE LATINOS FAULT.

As for HIstory is concern, AFRICAN BROTHERS, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS REMEMBER DR. KING, THE SOUTH, GERONIMO, SLAVERY TIMES, ROSA PARKS, ADOLPH HITLER, DAVID DUKE ETC.

PLEASE BROTHERS OF ALL RACES DO NOT BE MISELEAD BY THE ACTIONS AND FEELINGS OF A FEW. THESE HATEFUL PEOPLE DO NOT REPRESENT YOUR VALUES, THEY DO NOT SPEAK FOR YOU. BELIEVE IN GOD, PRAY, DO NOT WATCH FOX NEWS, BE GOOD TO EACH OTHER, FOLLOW THE PRINCIPLES AND GOOD TEACHINGS OF YOUR PARENTS, GO TO CHURCH, DO NOT GET INVOLVED WITH WHITE SUPREMASIST PEOPLE, OR BLACK PANTHERS, OR GANG MEMBERS, MAFIA LOVERS, ETC.

TOGETHER, IF WE ASK GOD FOR DIRECTION, WE AND THOSE WHO WE CARE THE MOST FOR WILL BE BLESSED.

REMOVE HATE FROM YOUR HEART AND YOU WILL FEEL SO MUCH BETTER.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL,


YOUR LATINO SISTER.



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Latino Brother

by La Raza Friday, May. 12, 2006 at 5:33 PM

Dear African , White Europeans, Asian, Latin, MIddle Eastern, and Native American Indian Blooded Brothers; Jews, Christian , Muslim, Buddhist:Citizens of the World:

PLease be aware that The anti-immigration protests driven by the ignorance of the "few" retarded and hateful Minuteman cann't be ignored. History has showed us time after time that Racism and Hate are counter productive feelings and activities THAT would only lead to crimes and War; and at the end, nobody wins.
To those White Europeans brothers and Sisters, do not allow emotions and, or the negative propaganda that day after day the likes of Fox News commentators preach into your brains become the basis for your formulation of ideas. Do not permit the likes of the Minuteman, KKK, Nazi, or even the hardcore Republican selfserving Congressman mislead you that they are looking after you or the betterman of the Country. Please do not become such an easy prey. READ, EDUCATE YOURSELF, INFORM YOURSELF. Television Networks are NOT the best source of information. The reason why the avearge White European middle class worker do not get pay $50 dollars an hour is not because the Native American Mexicans, Central American or South Americans are are either taking your jobs or lowering your wages BUT because the REPUBLICAN GOVERMENT you so clealry support decided to move the manufacturing insfrastructure to CHINA. ANd off-course this is called :GLOBALIZATION. It is rather shameful and sad when I see the people supporting the Minuteman Cause that are composed of middle class White Europeans usually in their 50's waving their United States Flags hoping that the likes of BIll Gates or Corporate American will give them a call and say :Hey, Do you want a Job that pays $50 dollars an hr. for cleaning Windows? These poor people will never get this call simply beacuse their $50 dollars a hour Cleaning Windows job was either send to CHINA or given to a hard working, honest, and dedicated Native American from the American Continent, NOT Europe.

If You really want to protest against your Goverment about your standard of living decreasing protest against the following:

1. WHY DO YOU CONTINUE SHIPPING OUR JOBS TO CHINA?

2. WHY GAS PRICES CONTINUE TO GO UP ?

3. WHY THE POOR ELDERLY CONTINUES TO GET THE WRONG SIDE OF THE STICK WHEN IT COMES TO HEALTHCARE ?

4. WHY OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM SUCKS ?

5. WHY IS IT THAT THE UNITED STATES PREACHES SPEAK ENGLISH ONLY WHEN EUROPEANS AS WELL AS ALL OTHER NATIONS ARE ENCOURAGED TO LEARN AND SPEAK MORE THAN ONE LEANGUAGE ? AND SO ON AND SO FORTH....

6. ASK BILL GATES WHY HAS HE TAKEN ALL THE BEST PROGRAMMING/SOFTWARE JOBS TO INDIA ?

7. ASK YOUSELF WHY WE NOW DEPEND ON JAPAN TO PROVIDE FOR JOBS HERE IN AMERICA ? REMEMBER THAT WE ALSO WE USED TO DISCRIMINATE GAINSTE THEM !!!???

8. ASK YOURSELF WHY YOU BECAME SO LAZY ALWAYS ASKING FOR OTHERS TO DO YOUR JOBS ?

9. YOU WILL NEVER SEE A WHITE MAN DOING HARD WORK LABOR IN CONSTRUCTION ? EXCEPT FOR THOSE "STAND AROUND DO NOTHING" CALTRAN JOBS THAT YOU GET PAY $30.00 PER HR. BUT BECAUSE YOU ARE WHITE !! YOU DO NOT SEE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS DOING THOSE JOBS ?

10 STOP FILING UNNNECESSARY CLAIMS FOR SEXUAL HARRASMENTS OR INDUSTRY RELATED FRAUDULENT CLAIMS JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF GETTING EASY MONEY. THIS YOU KNOW, CHASE NEW BUSINESS AWAY.

11. STOP THINKING THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU WERE ACCIDENTALY BORN IN THIS CONTINENT YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO HAVE THE RIGHT TO CALL YOURSELF AN AMERICAN ? MY QUESTION IS FROM WHAT INDIAN TRIBE !!!


All the above issues got nothing to do with the poor Latinos being in this Country, it has to do with you, the White European individual thinking that the World stills REVOLVES around you.

Times have changed, look at the Greek, the Romans, Mesopotatina, Iraq, the Azteks, the Incas etc, all wonderful Civilizations which no longer ruled.

Please inform yourself, read history, watch lesss television and try to be a better Christian.

I do not care how much of a Racist you claim to be, the bottom line is that in these times of Globalization it is all about making a profit, if you do not get this by now, then I do not know what to tell you. Corporations, THe Rich, THe Investor, the Politicina etc. THEY DO NOT CARE WHAT COLOR YOU ARE OR WHAT YOU HAD FOR BREAKSFAST, THEY COULD CARE LESS IF YOU ARE WHITE EITHER, THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT MONEY !!!!!!!!!!!MAKING A PROFIT. AND IF CHEAP LABOR WILL MAKE THEM MORE MONEY, THEY WILL GO FOR, NOW IF YOU try to stop them, then, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE THESE JOBS OVER CHINA.

You should also take into consideration that the cheap labor produced by Latinos is going to pay for your Social Security, without Latinos, you will absolutely be joining the thosusands of homeless people living in Los Angeles. AND THE ONLY PEOPLE TO BLAME IS YOU BECUASE YOU DID NOT GET A GOOD EDUCATION OR INVESTED YOUR MONEY WISELY DURING YOUR YOUTH. SORRY. IT IS NOT THE LATINOS FAULT.

As far as HIstory goes, AFRICAN BROTHERS, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS REMEMBER DR. KING, THE SOUTH, GERONIMO, SLAVERY TIMES, ROSA PARKS, ADOLPH HITLER, DAVID DUKE ETC.

PLEASE BROTHERS OF ALL RACES DO NOT BE MISELEAD BY THE ACTIONS AND FEELINGS OF A FEW. THESE HATEFUL PEOPLE DO NOT REPRESENT YOUR VALUES, THEY DO NOT SPEAK FOR YOU. BELIEVE IN GOD, PRAY, DO NOT WATCH FOX NEWS, BE GOOD TO EACH OTHER, FOLLOW THE PRINCIPLES AND GOOD TEACHINGS OF YOUR PARENTS, GO TO CHURCH, DO NOT GET INVOLVED WITH WHITE SUPREMASIST PEOPLE, OR BLACK PANTHERS, OR GANG MEMBERS, MAFIA LOVERS, ETC.

TOGETHER, IF WE ASK GOD FOR DIRECTION, WE AND THOSE WHO WE CARE THE MOST FOR WILL BE BLESSED.

REMOVE HATE FROM YOUR HEART AND YOU WILL FEEL SO MUCH BETTER.

JUST REMEMBER, THERE ARE ALL KIND OF PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD, THERE ARE GOOD AND BAD PEOPLE IN ALL RACES AND ETHNIC BACKGROUNDS, SO DON'T MATTER WHAT A "FEW" SOCIAL IGNORANTS SAY, THE BOTTON LINE IS THAT AS LONG AS WE RESPECT EACH OTHER NOBODY CAN TAKE AWAY OUR FAMILY VALUES AND WHAT WE STAND FOR.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL,


YOUR LATINO SISTER.



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original Aboriginal !! yepppaaahhooo!!

by canat Saturday, Jun. 03, 2006 at 11:51 AM

........
bam!
again I say to you
latinao sister bot,

What about our Native rights, MY Native rights
in the colonized zone(meixKKKo)????????????

where is the "gran marcha" for all the land YOU stole from me and my peoples???
ey?! ey???
LOL, damn racists
God has Judgement for your lieing asses......
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