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by Pacuco
Thursday, Mar. 30, 2006 at 8:52 AM
Organizers of La Gran Marcha announce plans for National Shut Down!
Major action: a call to boycott work, school and all consumer activities May 1st. More information to come soon! http://www.radiobilingue.org
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by Pachuco
Friday, Mar. 31, 2006 at 8:01 AM
I thought this immigration had nothing to do with Race or Ethnicity?
Now you are singling out Mexicans?
We all contribute to the infrastructure of our society, that includes you, the undocs and me. The undocs want to show all of us how much they contribute so that we stop using them as scapegoats for everything from a failed economy to earthquakes.
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by **454**
Friday, Mar. 31, 2006 at 5:17 PM
Hmm... I live and work in an area that's around half Mexican, and the other places I go tend to be more than half, up to over 90%. Yet, aside from some restaurants, I almost never go into "Mexican" businesses. There are many of them, but, generally they don't sell what I'm buying. Most "Mexican" businesses are small mom and pop operations. Little restaurants, flower shops, markets, etc. They mainly cater to their ethnic group, or are located in immigrant neighborhoods.
Places I patronize most often, like Vons, Rite Aid, Sav On, and Autozone are not "Mexican" even though most people working in them is of Mexican or Central American descent. (Likewise, most shoppers are too.) All the great SoCal burger stands: same story. Even the stores like Big Savr don't seem to be owned by Mexicans. (I think Gigante is, and Superior is possibly OMD.) The Asian businesses are Asian-owned, but there are a lot of Mexican and Central American people working there.
A boycott of "Mexican" businesses would have no effect, because most of their clientele are immigrants. That is, their clientele is a subset of the larger set of people of Mexican and Central American descent. Shopper boycotts are generally weak anyway.
A general strike, however, could be devastating to all business.
Bring back the real Labor Day!
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by Sheepdog
Friday, Mar. 31, 2006 at 7:01 PM
wow@wowzville,gov/
These people coming through the gauntlet to reach this land.
We are dealing with effects of corporate warfare from countries where death squads were the norm. Anything was sanctioned to suppress the labor rights in the nations of origin of these refugees. They are familiar with below radar organization and bring with them the memories and lessons learned. Brother and Sisters in arms for the coming strugle.
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by tommy
Tuesday, Apr. 04, 2006 at 1:44 PM
what struggle would that be, sheepdog?
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by MadMaxim
Tuesday, Apr. 04, 2006 at 9:41 PM
In 1986, Nicaraguan defector Alberto Suhr related to U.S.
reporters what he and other Sandinista cadres had been told by Tomas Borge, the
Sandinista interior minister. Borge, a ruthless henchman trained by Castro's
DGI, instructed his comrades: "We have Nicaragua, soon
we will have El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica and Mexico. One day,
tomorrow or 15 years from now, we're going to take 5 to 10 million Mexicans and
they're going to have one thing in mind - cross the border, go into Dallas, go
into Houston, go into New Mexico, go into San Diego, and each one has embedded
in his mind the idea of killing 10 Americans."
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by MadMaxim
Tuesday, Apr. 04, 2006 at 9:50 PM
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by Erika
Wednesday, Apr. 05, 2006 at 5:11 PM
I am so sick of this subject. I do not want people that come here illegally to get amnesty. We are not over that Xavier! It is not fair to people that come here the right way. And why do illegals get a say in what our laws are anyway....they don't have a vote! If you want to be an American so bad, why do so many fly the Mexican flag and just the Mexican flag. At least fly them both together...that I understand. I am so tired of the U.S.A. giving everybody, but its own citizens a break. I feel for the poor and for people that live in countries where there is not much hope, but the whole world can't come here!
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by Deleon Smith
Thursday, Apr. 06, 2006 at 5:09 AM
Javier, I am apart of the "American people" and I am not on your side. Please do not assume that since you lured 500,000 people into the streets that you have the American public in your corner. Legalization of immigration and opening the borders for free passing will destroy the American way of life. It is important that immigrants enter legally and thru the correct legal paths. You forget that I pay the taxes and expenses incurred by illegal aliens, not to mention the horrific crimes that have been committed by illegals. I know this thru personal tragic experiences. Mexico has a lot to offer, why not urge your "followers" to become Nationalists and rebuild the economy of the great country of Mexico? The argument that the U.S. will not survive without illegals is unfounded and false. Please reconsider and rethink your strategy. Thanks.
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by Carol
Thursday, Apr. 06, 2006 at 8:23 AM
cchickg@yahoo.com 2815867801
OKAY i JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE REALLY ARE GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS BOYCOTT BECAUSE IF ENOUGH PEOPLE ARE DOING IT I WILL PARTICIPATE BUT IF NO ONE WILL DO IT THEN I DONT WANT TO HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT...I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT DOES HAVE AN IMPACT ON USA SO THEY CAN SEE WHAT HISPANICS DO FOR THIS COUNTRY...WHERE CAN I GET MORE INFORMATION?? EMAIL ME AT CCHICKG@YAHOO.COM ALSO TO THE PEOPLE AGAINST THE BOYCOTT WHY ARE YOU SO WORRIED IF YOU THINK WE ARE DOING NOTHING FOR YOUR COUNTRY THEN WHY ARE YOU SO WORRIED????
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by Mr. Kren
Thursday, Apr. 06, 2006 at 5:05 PM
It's very simple. As the Paul Revere Society states:
"Protect Our BORDERS, LANGUAGE, & CULTURE"
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by joe
Friday, Apr. 07, 2006 at 3:28 PM
For 71 years the U.S. has negelected all of Latin America. Unlike Europe who now is growing together to form a strong Union gathering as much labor force that one day will beat the U.S. labor force that even europe is considering Turkey to be part of the E.U. Meanwhile The U.S. is losing devoted allies such as Brazil, Argentina and now the one latin nation that has tried to stay away from sociolism or communism the one country that has been exploited by both american and mexican capitilist greed. The one country who after 71 years finally decided on democracy with capitalism ( PAN PARTY) AND YET The U.S DID NOTHING TO HELP ITS ECONOMY . Maybe Mexico is better off being a SOCIALIST STATE. Apparently Mexico will never be accepted to U.S. standards.
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by fresca
Saturday, Apr. 08, 2006 at 7:00 AM
"The undocs want to show all of us how much they contribute"
Look, I know that they're all very fine people but they simply don't contribute all that much.
They don't
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by NANA
Saturday, Apr. 08, 2006 at 12:26 PM
Fresca - are you serious? You honestly think that immigrants don't contribute? Do you even personally KNOW a immigrant? Who do you think has been cleaning up New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina hit? Immigrants -- most of the people from New Orleans hightailed it out of there and have no plans to return. Who do you think picks the vegetables that show up on your dinner table? Immigrants do the picking. They're also doing the cooking in the majority of our restaurants, washing the cars at the car wash, and doing the housekeeping at the hotels where we take our vacations.
Don't even start with the argument that they're taking jobs from Americans - this work is "beneath" what alot of Americans are willing to do.
And if you think teenagers would be picking up any of the slack should the immigrants be deported, guess again. Crops don't wait until students get out of school at 3 o'clock to be picked, Einstein.
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by Skyler Smith
Monday, Apr. 10, 2006 at 6:19 PM
1.Its impossible to get citizenship. 2. USA took part of Mexico, so its only natural for Mexicans to be in USA. 3.White guys are weak, they cant work. 4. No one can stop immigration so just live with it, for example, all white ppl came from europe...Mayflower ring a bell?
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by Tim
Saturday, Apr. 15, 2006 at 3:55 AM
I see a lot of people commenting on "undocs" and then people firing back a response concerning immigrants. These are two very different things.
You just show your ignorance when one person speaks to the problem of illegal aliens and you respond talking about immigrants as a whole.
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by GUILLERMINA GUTIERREZ
Friday, Apr. 28, 2006 at 6:19 PM
lachulisima@sbcglobal.net
Citizenship and origin are totally different things! the mexican flag has nothing to do with any thing!
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by GUILLERMINA GUTIERREZ
Friday, Apr. 28, 2006 at 6:30 PM
lachulisima@sbcglobal.net
Citizenship and origin are totally different things! the mexican flag has nothing to do with any thing!
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by GUILLERMINA GUTIERREZ
Friday, Apr. 28, 2006 at 6:30 PM
lachulisima@sbcglobal.net
Citizenship and origin are totally different things! the mexican flag has nothing to do with any thing!
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by allamericangirl
Monday, May. 01, 2006 at 7:13 AM
{Learn from them. by Sheepdog Thursday, Mar. 30, 2006 at 7:01 PM wow@wowzville,gov/
These people coming through the gauntlet to reach this land.
We are dealing with effects of corporate warfare from countries where death squads were the norm. Anything was sanctioned to suppress the labor rights in the nations of origin of these refugees. They are familiar with below radar organization and bring with them the memories and lessons learned. --*Brother and Sisters in arms* for the coming strugle. }
Brothers and sisters in ----arms?????
Is that a threat of war or what? Would you consider that terrorism??? Hmmm....
An invasion of infidels. Led by insidious, inside communist organizations/forces. In an attempt to take the United States down.
Corporate warfare? More like coporate welfare.
The door to America swings both ways....
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by Crystal Ochoa
Tuesday, May. 02, 2006 at 5:00 AM
crystal_h_town_angel_22@yahoo.com
ok first of all now everybody knows that without immigrants white people wouldn be **** ... imean think about it who built them big houses where white people live in? who cleans for white people? who cooks for them? who takes care of their kids? who mows their lawns? who drives them every where ?................... exactly !!! all immigrants tke a bigger part of the u. s. than whites or blacks so think about it without us mexicans all yall people wouldnt be shit
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by Crystal Ochoa
Tuesday, May. 02, 2006 at 5:00 AM
crystal_h_town_angel_22@yahoo.com
ok first of all now everybody knows that without immigrants white people wouldn be **** ... imean think about it who built them big houses where white people live in? who cleans for white people? who cooks for them? who takes care of their kids? who mows their lawns? who drives them every where ?................... exactly !!! all immigrants tke a bigger part of the u. s. than whites or blacks so think about it without us mexicans all yall people wouldnt be shit
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by Lord Locksley
Tuesday, May. 02, 2006 at 5:17 AM
....but you're running a con-job on yourself...Like most Americans,I do my own cleaningmcooking,mowing,and driving...and I raised my kids without any help from illegal immigrants....you've been listening to those little 'jefitos' over at Mexica,and Mecha and Lan Raza......so today I am boycotting the boycott....sort of "Huelga contra la Huelga" you might say...already done some shopping and I'm going to lunch at Cafe Adobe in a few minutes...I'm going to have a couple of frozen Margaritas...sort of my way of pissing in Lenin's face....gives me a warm contented feeling inside just thinking about it....
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by Old Gringo
Tuesday, May. 02, 2006 at 6:53 PM
>>who built them big houses where white people live in?
You mean those Particleboard and Staplegun McMansions? Keep em - and their Jew banker mortgages.
My grandfather built the house I grew up in.
Much better than the 70's era tract house I live in today - which my brother and I remodeled by ourselves.
>>who cleans for white people?
I clean my own house.
>>who cooks for them?
Cook for myself.
>>who takes care of their kids?
Nobody but my wife, our families, and I.
>>who mows their lawns?
I Mow my own lawn. It's good exercise.
>>who drives them every where?
When I'm not riding my bicycle, I drive myself.
See, Crystal Meth, you're confusing the slave owning Oligarchs, who are complicit with the import of illegal, foreign, slave labor - with middle-class folks.
It's us middle-class folks whose jobs the Oligarchs are giving to their illegal alien slaves.
And we are many.
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by tim dog
Tuesday, May. 02, 2006 at 7:46 PM
With your random slam on "jew bankers" you showed, as suspected, that you're a racist. You can't change the world, man.
The marches today and on 3/25 ARE the real backlash!
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by Old Gringo
Wednesday, May. 03, 2006 at 5:35 PM
"The marches today and on 3/25 ARE the real backlash!"
The marches accomplished nothing - other than demonstrating that life can go on just fine without those who participated.
Pretty woosified "backlash"
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by Roland Arnal
Wednesday, May. 03, 2006 at 5:53 PM
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by julio garza
Thursday, May. 04, 2006 at 4:29 AM
crystal is right mexicans do all da work for white pplz
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by allamericangirl
Thursday, May. 04, 2006 at 4:50 AM
hell yeah crystalq by julio garza Wednesday, May. 03, 2006 at 7:29 AM
crystal is right mexicans do all da work for white pplz ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Delusional puppet of the left wing liberal socialists.
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by El Chivo
Thursday, May. 04, 2006 at 5:44 AM
>>>>Delusional puppet of the left wing liberal socialists.
get it right. a liberal and a socialist is not the same. if you use that logic i can say that facism is conservative.
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by new gringo in a 60s tract house
Thursday, May. 04, 2006 at 9:14 AM
No wonder you're pissed at the new Mexicans coming over, Old Gringo... you're just like them, except you're white, and a resentful racist. "OG" are you encouraging your kids to join a "white pride" gang yet?
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by allamericangirl
Thursday, May. 04, 2006 at 9:18 AM
Socialism hides under the guise of liberalisim. And FYI communisim is just a higher form of socialisim. And I said, left wing liberals. If a liberal swings to the extreme far left they then become socialists.
far left democrats > liberalism > socialism > communisim
Delusional puppets of the liberal socialist/communist agenda.
Though it is all quite irrelevant, since the puppets are illegal puppets. That is the root of the matter. It does not matter if they are backed by Mickey Mouse, they are illegal.
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by El Chivo
Thursday, May. 04, 2006 at 10:32 AM
socialism is not capitalism. and liberalism is capitalism. then in your logic conservative is facist. educate yourself please
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by by:Kristy
Thursday, May. 04, 2006 at 11:46 AM
to:Dumbass Tim Immigrants are people just like YOU!!!!
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by by: Kristy
Thursday, May. 04, 2006 at 11:54 AM
THis ones for you Crystal Ochoa. To:Mexicans,Slaves >>Who fucks your wife when your not around? Yeah! Those mexicans you hate. >>Who cleans the schools your kids go to? The mexicans because you sure as hell don't. >>Who cleans for you white pplz don't say you so stop bullshiting. >>Who cooks for you? Well let's say your wife whom learned from the immigrant she fucks every week!:):):):)
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by us citizen
Thursday, May. 04, 2006 at 1:17 PM
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by El Chivo
Thursday, May. 04, 2006 at 3:37 PM
Liberalism is an ideology, philosophy, and political tradition which holds liberty as the primary political value.[1] Broadly speaking, liberalism seeks a society characterized by freedom of thought for individuals, limitations on power, especially of government and religion, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market economy that supports private enterprise, and a transparent system of government in which the rights of minorities are guaranteed. In modern society, liberals favour a liberal democracy in the form of either a republic or a constitutional monarchy, with open and fair elections, where all citizens have equal rights by law and an equal opportunity to succeed[2]. Liberalism rejected many foundational assumptions which dominated most earlier theories of government, such as the Divine Right of Kings, hereditary status, and established religion. Fundamental human rights that all liberals support include the right to life, liberty, and property. In many countries, modern liberalism differs from classical liberalism by asserting that government provision of some minimal level of material well-being takes priority over freedom from taxation. Liberalism has it roots in the Western Enlightenment, but the term now encompasses a diversity of political thought, with adherents spanning a large part of the political spectrum, from left to right. In the context of economics, the term "liberalism" refers to economic liberalism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal Socialism is a social and economic system (or the political philosophy advocating such a system) in which the economic means of production are owned and controlled collectively by the people. This control may be either direct, exercised through popular collectives such as workers' councils or community councils, or it may be indirect, exercised through a State. In the latter case, the issue of who controls the state is crucial. A primary concern of socialism (and, according to some, its defining feature) is social equality and an equitable distribution of wealth that would serve the interests of society as a whole.[1][2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
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by allamericangirl
Thursday, May. 04, 2006 at 4:38 PM
Interesting. I like this explanation better though.
February 2005 Liberalism, Socialism and Communism;
links in the chains of slavery
By Wesley Bailor
Our Founding Fathers, being keenly attuned to the goal of personal freedom, accurately analyzed the manner in which freedom was so trampled by the political systems from which they had fled in Europe. Their genius was the recognition that tyranny must be expected from unfettered governmental power. How wise they were, to separate our government into three branches, such that each could keep an eye on the other two.
But at this date, we've been inundated with another kind of thinking. John Dewey, from his post at Columbia University, exerted a socialist influence that has since spread to most of our educational system. Instead of a healthy distrust of governmental power, we look to it as our nanny. "Absurdity" is not too strong a word to describe many of the things that some folks believe government should do. A very recent example is the decision to spend tax money for sex-change surgery. We could write a whole catalog of such anecdotal cases, which to freedom-oriented people, are absurd to the point of insanity.
One might ask, "What does tax supported sex-change surgery have to do with freedom? Can't we be a free society and also use our government resources to solve various and sundry problems?" In fact, we cannot. There is no bottom to the pit of various and sundry. With our focus on various and sundry, we lose track of the current status of the freedom which is being traded for various and sundry.
The Liberals, those who advocate a "nanny government", are not in tune with the American people whose mind-set is oriented toward freedom. As one who has lived in a country with a totalitarian police state, where freedom is not even considered except as part of a lie, (the lie being that freedom means to live under their system) this writer knows some parallels between the totalitarian police state and our American Liberals and/or Socialists.
1. They both claim that the government is the solution.
2. They both assume the people are too stupid to take care of themselves.
3. They both assume that they, the elite, are somehow superior, and thus, have the right to rule.
4. They both are afraid of the people; so much so, that they try to eliminate free speech. (The police state does so by forbidding assembly; the U.S. Liberals do so by such devices as "political correctness".)
5. They both fear an armed citizenry. The totalitarians, since they have the power, simply forbid it, while the American Liberals use all their propaganda machinery to make it appear that the right to bear arms is Neanderthal, and is not connected to the issue of freedom of the citizenry. (Would an emperor want his peasants armed?)
6. They both spring from the secular humanist philosophy which dictates that freedom is a gift from the state, as opposed to the thinking of our Founding Fathers, who recognized that freedom is God-given, thus the state must be suspected and prevented from taking the people's God given freedom. Genius!
Liberalism is a kissing-cousin to Socialism, as Socialism is to Communism. Let's check this out. Maybe I paint with too wide a brush. The parallels above reveal a kinship between Liberalism and Socialism. Let's compare Socialism with Communism.
According to the dictionary, Socialism is the system in which the major means of production are owned by the state. My dictionary describes "Communism" as the state controlling the means of production, the distribution, and the consumption.
This all sounds so very sanitary, but in real life, it has not been so. In the Communist countries of China and Russia, millions upon millions of innocent citizens have been killed (the ultimate loss of freedom) for no just reason, whatever. Not in wars, just the fact that the government has the guns. The lucky ones are merely sent off to die in prison labor camps. The experience of Alexander Solzhenitsyn is a prime example. He was a loyal officer in the Russian Army, fighting against Hitler's Nazi forces, when he wrote a letter home mentioning his danger on account of the skill of a certain German officer who was directing the enemy forces. Solzhenitsyn had no rights, no freedom. His letter was intercepted, and his mention of the skill of the German officer was twisted. The Communist leaders decided that he was disloyal, on account of his "praise" of the German officer. For this totally innocent letter home, he spent eight years at hard labor in the freezing Siberian prison camp. After they let him out of prison, he was forced to live in Central Asia for another 4 years, before being allowed to return to his normal life.
With my own eyes, I saw the bullet chips on the statues and marks on the pavement left by the army tanks, which had run over the tents where the students slept in Tiananmen Square in Beijing, China in early June of 1989. These students were accused of being criminals and enemies of the State. What did they do, to be judged thusly? They had PEACEFUL demonstrations asking for a bit of FREEDOM. They were totally unarmed. They didn't even have sticks or stones. What did the Socialist state use against them? Guns and tanks! Under Socialism, the people have no rights. There is no appeal for justice. In the totalitarian socialist state, justice is whatever the government leaders SAY it is. If you don't like it, tough beans, Charlie!
Why get all worked up over things that happen in other countries? The reason is that Liberalism, Socialism and Communism are LINKS IN THE SAME CHAIN. The chain designed to destroy freedom.---> If we are so foolish as to be blind to the connection between American Liberalism and the living Hells of Socialism and Communism, we will suffer the same fate as the forgotten heroes who were killed by their government in Tiananmen Square.
Wesley Bailor, a native Oregonian and teacher, taught school in Arizona and Michigan. For three years, he lived in China, teaching and working with a people-to-people organization.
[Copyright © 2003 - 2006 Freedom.org. All rights reserved.]
We should probably keep in mind that any political school of thought could be construed towards each personal point of view. People tend to skew things to suit them.
I still stand with my statements.
left wing democrat liberal/socialist
Those supporting the rights of the illegal immigrants all have liberal, socialist, and even communist views.
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by allamericangirl
Thursday, May. 04, 2006 at 4:41 PM
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by tim dog
Thursday, May. 04, 2006 at 4:45 PM
The thing is conservatives tend to be nationalist in their view. People with beliefs from liberal all the way to communist or anarchist tend to be "inter-nationalists".
Conservatives believe in strong borders, nations, patriotism, etc. Liberals/Socialists/Communists think human rights and solidarity with struggles around the world are more important than borders.
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by tim dog
Thursday, May. 04, 2006 at 4:50 PM
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Anybody can have a chart. This one makes more sense. Anarchists are bottom left, libertarians are bottom right, communist top left and fascists top right.
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by Old Gringo
Thursday, May. 04, 2006 at 5:54 PM
When did I say I was white or European?
I'm just an American.
You're the one who injected skin color into the discussion, racist.
"For the race, everything, for those outside the race, nothing."
Thats your motto, right mechistas?
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by El Chivo
Friday, May. 05, 2006 at 5:52 AM
Also, the SOS and MMP brought out their friends National Vanguard in the rallies. why do they side with neonazi groups like what timdog posted that conservatives are very nationalistic.
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by Lord Locksley
Friday, May. 05, 2006 at 6:49 AM
...in fact,I have an even better slogan for all the little'jefitos' who hang out at Mecha......"Por los Americanos verdad,todo...por los frijoleros,nada"
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