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community of Protest in Costa mesa growing

by Abraham Appel Sunday, Feb. 26, 2006 at 12:27 PM
abe _appel@yahoo.com

Last nights protest in front of councilman and bar owner garry Monohan's bar has grown into a socol and political event that does not seem to be slowing down.

Last nights protest outside Monohans Bar in Costa Mesa showed that the discontent within the local communities over recent votes by the Costa Mesa city council to train police in INS duties is growing.
Last Night protesters chanted in Spanish, sang un-requested music and randomly blasted Ozomotly from a bicycle boom-box in front of Monahan’s bar and restaurant to protest bar owner and city councilman Garry Monohans vote in favor of training Costa mesa’s police in INS affairs.
Last nights protest attracted the largest turn out yet.
It appears that the event is becoming a county wide social event with people showing up from around the county.
The protest consisted of Protesters marching through the Parking lot of the bar, chanting, dancing and even a musical outfit playing Spanish guitars from within the crowd of protesters.
The protest is practically changing the small section of Newport blvd on Friday Night into a small Los Angeles street for what felt like a few hours of fun and community within the protest.
The march through the parking-lot, though, led one man to show the dangerous undertones of the conflict when he stuck his head out of the bar and laughed with his friends that,
“If this were the1890’s we could just shoot them (the protesters) like buffalo”
This statement may be not be technically true, but it should be mentioned that around the 1890’s the Irish would also be living in segregated ghetto housing while being beaten for stealing “the white persons jobs” protesters pointed out when made aware of the statement.
And if it was 1790 Monahan’s in Costa Mesa would be Monahan’s in Mexico as well.
Monahan did call the police on two occasions last night.
Both times came when the protesters moved from the sidewalk to the parking lot of the bar in a semi-comical and very tense moment of chanting and playing Spanish guitars at the doors of Monahan as Monahan yelled back ‘you are trespassing” while pub-goers outside for smokes were told to go inside the bar to avoid confrontation.
Police showed up and confirmed to protest leaders that the Parking lot was off limits.
“(Garry Monohan) needs to get used to the changing political climate” said Duane Roberts during the protest, accept that if you support a law that negatively affects and singles out the Mexican-American community, that this type of stuff is gonna happen.
Protesters admit it will be an up-hill battle, though, because many in the Orange County community do not understand how threatening these laws are seen by the Mexican-American families of not just Costa Mesa, but Orange, San Diego and L.A County.
As one pub patron voiced her dislike for the protest said
“(Monahan) has a bunch of Spanish men who cook for him and make me blessed meals…Junito and Miguel are very happy”
Mexican-Americans at the protest shared that they hope their protests will make it clear how the Chicano’s in Orange County see a vote for this law as a sign of being disconnected from the reality of not only the North American world, but the local community.
“The mayor-who also voted for the law-and councilman Monahan have a real fragmented analysis of the Immigration issue” said Natasha who was one of the guitar playing protesters
“There is a whole Diaspora of (Latin American and Mexican) immigrants who are practically political refugees due to the very policies of the United States”… ‘Mexican and Latin Americans don’t want to leave there home, but U.S policies create the situations that force them to leave”, and then they get here, work hard, raise families, pay taxes and become the enemy, Natasha held her guitar and got ready to leave.
Protesters shared that they want the city council of Costa Mesa to realize that this is not a phase in the So-Cal Chicano community.
Protesters said that they see this law as violent and destructive. They see it as a threat to their families.
The felling within the community of protesters is that the Costa Mesa law giving some police INS powers is that the law brings the horrible thought to life of not knowing if family members will return home after school or work.
The law also creates fear of not being able to call the police in times of break-ins; domestic violence or rape, say protesters.
One protester confided that he felt that the people in the bar talked about not likening “illigals” but none of the bar drinkers will lose anything if the law gets repealed.
For Mexican-Americans though, protesters shared, if this law doesn’t get repealed it may mean that life becomes the constant fear of their fathers never again coming home, there mothers getting detained and harassed on the way to buying food, their children getting legally harassed on the way to school.”
And maybe that was the difference Friday Night. The bar was packed because the drinkers wanted to deaden the conscience and have fun for a little while. The Sidewalk was packed with protesters because they had been awakened.












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OC

by OC Monday, Feb. 27, 2006 at 5:47 PM

You illegal supporters do not seem to be slowing his business at all. In fact, just the opposite.
Keep the free publicity up.
The patrons of Monahans despise all of you and you do not have any support from them.
Thanks again, you help us by showing up and displaying your Anti-american signs AND chanting in espanol!!!

If you want support, try english!!!
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Monahan's Is sound proof

by Irish Monday, Feb. 27, 2006 at 8:37 PM

and the protesters can not been heard or seen AT ALL. The palce was PACKED
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Im not sure that Monohans is the point

by Abe Appel Monday, Feb. 27, 2006 at 8:50 PM
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I think that by being out there, causing plubisity to be shown on the councilman, as well as the spanish chants is cleary trying to show that they are protesting as a refusal to loose their culture.
The bar was packed. It was a great crowed and seemed to be a fun place to be. But I have a feeling the protest, like all protests will take new turns..possibly Monohans becoming a place known as racist, so even though buisness will be good, attitudes toward the place may change.
It will be interesting to see what happans.
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Response

by John Earl Tuesday, Feb. 28, 2006 at 11:59 AM
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Monahan's restaurant is NOT sound proof and the protesters are easily heard and seen. Monahan's bar is a watering hole where right-wingers and apologists for fascism and nativism can go to get drunk and forget about the pain and suffering that they cause in the world around them. Our aim is to sober them up.
John Earl
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Those who commit the crimes...

by Border Raven Tuesday, Feb. 28, 2006 at 6:15 PM

Those who commit the crimes... should accept that if they break the law, it may negatively affect and single out your community, regardless of your race and, that this type of stuff is gonna happen.

A large segment of the illegal-immigrant community (no race specified) comes from a specific country or group of nations. A percentage of illegal-immigrants (no race specified) commits crimes. CM, intends to deport those who have been arrested and served their time, regardless of where they came from, or their race. This is not about sweeps, although, ICE is free to conduct sweeps at anytime.

I think people are overreacting, but in a good way, so as to keep the government in line, but so long as they don't try to get a council person to change a vote, they are on track.

:)

BR



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U.S. Policies. What U.S. policies?

by Minutewomen Tuesday, Feb. 28, 2006 at 6:17 PM


What U.S. policies created the situations that force them to leave their homes and come here? Explain.

The latino community has been enjoying decades of convenient border crossings, to the point they have grown dependent on it. Now that citizens and patriots of the USA, are seeing the effects of a saturation of the demographic, and are voicing their anger, the latino community is reacting like children who won't be allowed to play in the neighbor's yard anymore.

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Suspects, not Convicts

by johnk Tuesday, Feb. 28, 2006 at 8:35 PM

Wrong again BR. The intent is to get the status of suspects and arrestees, not convicts. The system already checks on convicts, and sometimes deports them.

This law will cause crime to increase, because Latinos will be more afraid to interact with the police and file reports.
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to Minute women

by Abe appel Wednesday, Mar. 01, 2006 at 10:32 AM
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I think an article on what the protesters charge as "policies that effect latin america and create immegration" os a great idea, and should be followwed up. Thank you. it would be interesting to see if some are off base here or not.
i personally took the comment as a critique of neo-libralism and nafta. As well as a critique of the US' role in deciding in some countries such as chile (which is where the interviiewe was from) to place dictators who supported profit over people.
i took also as ac ritique of sanctions on cuba, the kidnapping of haities president.
I should have added this in the article and probably did the reader a diservice by not. Thank you for continuing the conversation
Abe Appel
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1790's?

by Quizling Thursday, Mar. 02, 2006 at 4:22 PM

California 1790 was under the small forces of spanish legions and a handful of friars diddling the "Native" heathens.

If in writng an article you want your audience to believe you you need to state facts.

The other funny line about the Irish being hated by the White estabishment was funny and very much out of context.

and someone that saying we could shoot them like the buffalo? LOL.
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Go, go Go,

by Someone who grew up there Thursday, Mar. 02, 2006 at 4:47 PM

I HATE Monaghans! Challenge OC culture! Yes!!! I love reading this!!! I grew up in that culture, and i'm so happy (speaking as a San Franciscan) that direct action is possible and practiced in other places! If I were down there, I d be with ya'll-keep up the good work. Si se puede (sp)
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re Explain US policies

by gladys Saturday, Mar. 18, 2006 at 3:53 PM

Part of the problem in discussions across lines of political persuasion is that we have different world-views. That said, it is by no means a reason to limit such discussions. Here's my effort to show you the lens through which I understand the world:

In response to your request for an explanation in "U.S. policies. What U.S. policies?" I recommend perusing the George Washington University's National Security Archive (http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/).

It's an electronic archive set up by a group of journalists in 1985 with the first documents retrieved after passage of the Freedom of Information Act. Compiled you'll find an array of declassified governmental documents about International Affairs. (Yes, including US intervention in Chile, that is, propping up Dictator Pinochet.)

(For more on Chile see: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/latin_america/chile.htm
OR http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB8/nsaebb8.htm)


... en memoria de Gladys Marín
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