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Local Minuteman Nears Breaking Point

by Next Move Saturday, Feb. 18, 2006 at 12:55 AM

The information below was taken from the Save Our State message board from a thread entitled : “border ops in cali, please join me”

Local Minuteman Near...
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Providing more evidence that many of the local Minutemen are nothing more than Rambo wanabees, a Save Our State member who posts under the moniker of Orion released a call this morning to fellow SOS members asking for help with an impromptu, spontaneous border watch operation. The tone and tenor of his posts reveals him to be agitated and most likely armed and dangerous.

(see below for excerpts from the thread)

Some SOS members added their input or suggestions as to how best conduct this operation including Border Raven who suggests bringing along an “axe, saw and shovel,” and another who suggest bringing along some, “zipcuffs”. Not all SOS response was positive though. Cazamigrante urges the Minuteman to “be sure to emphasize that you're NOT with SOS, any Minutemen.”

For Minutemen and their ilk the immigration/day labor issue has become something that defines it’s own terms, operates within it’s own reality and draws in people from the very fringes of our society, desperate to lash out at any perceived enemy, real or imagined.

When a man (presumably) is driven to the point where he is spontaneously willing to single-handedly patrol a 1951 mile international border with or without help, one can only deduce that this man is operating from an irrational, fear-based internal decision making paradigm. What other conclusion is there?

And what more could be expected to be the logical end point for a movement that defines itself as offering a solution to the problems facing people in our modern society when in fact they simply blame the most vulnerable of our society for the problem inherent within the system.



**BELOW ARE EXCEPTS TAKEN FROM THE THREAD**

http://www.saveourstate.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=8036

Orion:

I am going to the cal border this weekend and would like some back up, I am going to confront illegal crossers and stand in the gap. I will be armed (of course) and probably not welcome by MMP/BWF due to my strategy. If I am fired upon, so be it! I will return fire; I am so sick of this BS I cant take it anymore.

Who's comin' with me? no one? well at least pray for me, since I will need it.

cercas hacen a buenos vecinos:

If you plan on making a citizens arrests, be sure to have a partner on cover, zipcuffs, and BP on speed dial. I wouldnt bother with trying to stop groups of more than 2 or 3 in number, unless you have a squad-sized team.

Wear a vest with a rifle plate- level IV protection. A kevlar helmet wouldnt hurt either.

Good luck.



Border Raven:

Oh, stop at the VFW and cover your license plates, and any distinguishing marks on your vehicle. People will take your picture and video your activities.

If you can take an axe, saw and shovel, some tarps, rope, water, food, etc.



I’mwithYa:

I wish I was well and younger---I would love to go with you. But I am not.

I will pray for you! BIGTIME.

Please be careful!



Cazamigrante:

Oh Please, BY ALL MEANS, GO ALONE!

Be sure to emphasize that you're NOT with SOS, any Minutemen, or any other similarly organized law-abiding anti-illegal/border watch group, but that you are a lone gunman, intending entirely ON YOUR OWN PART to violate the laws of the United States by attempting to enforce federal immigration law WITHOUT ANY AUTHORITY TO DO SO, and by using violence and threatening deadly force entirely without any reason, provocation, or legal justification.

That way, when you're either shot by Mexicans, or the Border Patrol throws you in one of their trucks, we'll all know where to point and laugh.

http://www.saveourstate.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=8036

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axe, saw and shovel Border Raven Saturday, Feb. 18, 2006 at 5:06 AM
reply Jammer CC Saturday, Feb. 18, 2006 at 8:28 AM
civil disobedience Border Raven Saturday, Feb. 18, 2006 at 8:44 AM
time Meyer London Saturday, Feb. 18, 2006 at 9:46 PM
firearm and beer El Chivo Saturday, Feb. 18, 2006 at 11:33 PM
El Chivo Debate Coach Sunday, Feb. 19, 2006 at 1:23 AM
"Debate Coach" just wondering Sunday, Feb. 19, 2006 at 3:42 AM
Unsubstantiated? So what? Coach's Coach Sunday, Feb. 19, 2006 at 4:52 AM
Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms Border Raven Sunday, Feb. 19, 2006 at 5:02 AM
Minutemen (authority) Border Raven Sunday, Feb. 19, 2006 at 5:16 AM
Border Raven Pete Nice Sunday, Feb. 19, 2006 at 7:07 AM
SOS Thread removed Next Move Sunday, Feb. 19, 2006 at 8:29 AM
uncooborated johnk Sunday, Feb. 19, 2006 at 12:01 PM
debate coach=Border Raven aka Gerry! El Chivo Sunday, Feb. 19, 2006 at 5:51 PM
Maybe they should look 4 chupacabras LORI SILVA (Donkey Sliver's wife) Sunday, Feb. 19, 2006 at 10:56 PM
Rambo Pachuco Sunday, Feb. 19, 2006 at 11:36 PM

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