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A Brutal Police Riot in Israel

by Ariel Natan Pasko Thursday, Feb. 02, 2006 at 5:04 PM

It looks at the recent Police Riot in Israel.

A brutal "Police Riot" has just occurred in Israel, storming protestors with horses and swinging batons, hurting whoever is in their way. There are reports of a several hundred civilians injured including three Knesset members, Effie Eitam (knocked unconscious), Aryeh Eldad (broken arm), and Rabbi Binyamin Elon. Nothing has been seen like this in the free world since the Police Riots during the Chicago Democratic Convention in 1968.

After those violent events, Chicago's late Mayor Daley slipped and unapologetically blurted out, "The police aren't there to create disorder, they're there to preserve disorder," proving the protestors claims that the police came to the site, with the intension of breaking heads and inflicting massive casualties.

Daley's police rioters, clubbed and maced not only "unruly protesters," but also members of the media, clergy, women, young, old, and anyone else who was within swinging distance.

And that's exactly what happened at Amona.

According to Amona spokesman, Ariel Kahane, "I have never seen police violence on the scale I saw today, especially when the police rammed through a line of civilian protestors."

IDF Central Command Major-General Yair Naveh, speaking later, claimed 65 members of the security forces were wounded, as he downplayed the number of injuries on the protestor's side. He estimated that about 70 "settlers" were also wounded. While a spokesman for Israel's emergency medical service, Magen David Adom, said that 219 people had been treated for injuries and that 169 wounded were evacuated to hospitals in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv; close to 300 other injured protestors were treated in a giant first aid tent set up in Amona itself.

Trade & Infrastructure Minister Ronnie Bar-On (a close Kadima ally of Acting Prime Minister Olmert), let the cat out of the bag when he told the press, "The era of restraint in dealing with protesters is over."

Evidently the Israeli government intends to impose a scorched earth policy, violently expelling Jews from parts of the Land of Israel, what they call "illegal outposts," actually new neighborhoods within the municipal boundaries of existing towns in Judea and Samaria (the West Bank).

MK Effie Eitam (National Union), speaking later with Israel Army Radio explained that he and other members of Knesset were on the front lines when the security forces approached Amona. He said the MKs came, just as they had in Gush Katif "to see and be seen," to try and mitigate violence from both sides. Eitam explained that they attempted to negotiate with the police, but no police negotiators were to be found, mounted police came in swinging, "Early on, I was hit, knocked down, and run over by a horse and lost consciousness." Eitam, who was hospitalized with a head injury at the same Neurosurgery Department in Jerusalem (Hadassah Ein Karem) as Prime Minister Ariel Sharon (who is still in a coma), plans to file a complaint against the police violence with Attorney General Menachem Mazuz.

Knesset Member Aryeh Eldad (National Union), who had his arm broken by the police during the forced expulsion of Amona, said that the police behavior in Amona was brutal and had no connection with law enforcement. The police, he said, started using their batons immediately, they hit everyone, regardless of who they were or what they were doing, and confiscated property from protesters, including him.

After seeing the Police Riot in Amona, representatives of MKs Eitam and Eldad's National Union Party said, "Where members of parliament are beaten, there democracy ends." National Religious Party chairman Zevulun Orlev agreed, calling the administration of Acting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert "a bloodstained government." Yesha Council leader Pinhas Wallerstein, and politicians in the National Religious Party, called for a special commission to investigate the behavior of security forces during the Amona expulsion. "Olmert is easing the way for Hamas and is hurting his own sons. This is scandalous immorality," Wallerstein said.

One injured protestor described the scene, "We were standing in the front line, with no intention of using violence or anything, and all of a sudden the police just rained down on us with horses and clubs...My injury seems to be OK; I hardly needed any stitches, and the doctors here [at Hadassah Ein Karem Hospital] sent me home for three days of rest. But others were hurt even more than I was."

Assia Grima, an Ethiopian immigrant protestor who barricaded himself at Amona earlier in the week, was sent to the hospital with a broken hand. "There were many head injuries there; people were hit with clubs," he said. "I myself was struck by a police officer's club, but some of those on our side also acted inappropriately and threw stones, but most of the guys just barricaded themselves [nonviolently] in the homes. Some wanted to leave Amona, but were prevented from doing so [by the police] and were beaten. Anyone in the area was beaten indiscriminately."

A 15-year-old boy is hospitalized in "very serious condition" with a fractured skull. He was placed in a medically induced coma and is on a respirator, according to Channel 2 TV.

Describing the brutal police violence, Amona settlement leader Orit Caspi said, "They are fighting us, they are killing us, the state has declared war on its own citizens," she told Israel Radio.

Solidarity protests against the Police Riot and Amona expulsion were held around the country, with a few thousand attending. Hundreds of people burnt tires near the Latrun interchange and tried to block the Jerusalem-Tel Aviv highway. A similar protest was held in downtown Jerusalem. In Sderot, over 100 people protested the expulsion. Hundreds demonstrated at the Geha Junction, connecting B'nei Brak, Ramat Gan and Petach Tikva. There were dozens of protesters at the Hizme Checkpoint north of Jerusalem. Students from Tel Aviv and Ariel protested in Lod with the slogan "Homes should not be destroyed for two mandates. Enforce the law in Lod too." The demonstration was held opposite illegal Arab building sites in Lod.

MK Eldad later analyzed the events, "From here, we go on to the next confrontation, which will be far more harsh. In the third confrontation, there will be shooting deaths and in the fourth confrontation, the government will fall. I do not think that Acting Prime Minister Olmert will want to stop before then, because he is sure that if he beats the settlers, then he will appear to be a strong prime minister and earn a few more seats in the [upcoming Israeli] elections."

Likud MK Uzi Landau told Ynet, "There's no doubt that in this case we didn't see a level-headed approach by the prime minister. We saw someone who's looking for a confrontation…in light of an estimation it will help him in the elections. He did this on purpose. Now he must explain why he wanted a confrontation." Landau continued, "Olmert is directly responsible...he wanted a confrontation at any price. He refused to accept all compromise offers by the settlers."

The Likud MK also explained that Olmert was seeking to divert the public's attention from Hamas' election victory by turning the settlers into enemies. "If Olmert had only the rule of law in mind, he would treat everyone equally," Landau said. "The Palestinians build more than 1,000 illegal homes in the Jerusalem region every year. But he [Olmert] takes care of nine homes in Amona."

"Instead of holding a discussion about matters related to Hamas...all the cameras and media are focusing on the settlers in Amona. Why did he do this now? We saw that in Hebron it was possible to reach a deal. In Amona they [the government] didn't want a compromise."

The there are several reasons why Olmert & Co. have decided to attack the Jews instead of Hamas, carrying out this expulsion:

1. The world doesn't cry out when anti-Semites attack Jews around the world, or when the Israeli government attacks Jews.

2. Related to the first reason, Olmert can get away with it. Jewish "settlers" don't shoot to kill. If they attacked Hamas, "Palestinian" supporters around the world would scream out, European states and the UN would probably condemn Israel, and there would be the fear of reprisal bombings from Hamas, and the other terrorist groups.

3. There is a difference between Hebron and Amona. The government lists Amona, as an "illegal outpost," the Shuk area of Hebron known as the Shalhevet neighborhood, is not. Under the Roadmap, Ariel Sharon committed Israel to dismantle "illegal outposts," such as Amona. The then Fatah-led PA committed itself to disarming and criminalizing terror groups such as Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc. In spite of Mahmoud Abbas' refusal to carry out what he agreed to, and after Sharon's unilateral expulsion of Jews from Gaza brought Hamas to power in the PA, the Olmert government is intent on keeping its expulsion plans going. It proves to the Quartet (US, EU, UN, Russia) he can be counted on as their new Israeli quisling, after Sharon's departure.

4. It serves Olmert's election needs. Sad to say, but brutalizing "settlers" is the biggest "chic fashion trend" amongst the sick Israeli Left. It plays well in Tel-Aviv and the Arab villages of the Galilee, and it's their votes he's after. "Be nice to Arabs, be tough on Jews" could be Kadima's election slogan.

5. And most frightening of all, it is a "dry run" of the many more expulsions (from both "illegal outposts" and legal settlements, Jewish towns and villages in Judea and Samaria), a Kadima-led Olmert-Peres government plans to carry out after their election victory in March.

"Many are the plans of man, but it is G-D's will that prevails" (Proverbs 19:21).

We shall see...

Ariel Natan Pasko is an independent analyst & consultant. He has a Master's Degree specializing in International Relations, Political Economy, and Policy Analysis. He also has a degree in Jewish History & Thought. His articles appear regularly on numerous news/views and think-tank websites, in newspapers, and can be read at: www.geocities.com/ariel_natan_pasko



(c) 2006/5766 Pasko
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Those redneck racist zionist settlers should have been shot down like dogs in the street.

by BOO-HOOO! THE SETTLERS SHOULD HAVE BEEN SHOT! Thursday, Feb. 02, 2006 at 6:39 PM

"IDF Central Command Major-General Yair Naveh, speaking later, claimed 65 members of the security forces were wounded, as he downplayed the number of injuries on the protestor's side. He estimated that about 70 "settlers" were also wounded. While a spokesman for Israel's emergency medical service, Magen David Adom, said that 219 people had been treated for injuries and that 169 wounded were evacuated to hospitals in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv; close to 300 other injured protestors were treated in a giant first aid tent set up in Amona itself."


BOOO-HOOO...!!

This "police riot" - more like religious fundamentalist settlers riot - involved the removal of _9_ UNINHABITED 'houses' in a settler outpost in the West Bank. The outpost was suppose to have been evacuated 5 months ago. This little israeli government PR job - the removal of _9_ settler 'houses' - as Israel keeps confiscating more and more Palestinian land, destroying more and more Palestinian olive orchards and destroying lots more Palestinian homes.

If those redneck jewish fundamentalists settlers had been Palestinians, the israeli military would have shot them down and killed them all with the latest U.S.-made helicopter gunships. Or, dropped a 1-TON bomb on them, as the israeli military has onPalestinian neighborhoods before. But, not a single one of those ULTRA-RIGHT-WING redneck racist religious fundamentalist jewish settlers was even "wounded" by israeli military gunfire - only "injured" by batons.

Says Eitam, "Early on, I [settler] was hit, knocked down, and run over by a horse and lost consciousness."

GOOD!

Once again, imc lets itself be used for more zionist propaganda. And once again the zionists come to us with crocodile tears.
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Tovya

by Tovya Thursday, Feb. 02, 2006 at 7:48 PM
comrade.tovya@gmail.com

Great article, and great commentary. Thanks for your support.
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This is obserd!

by melech gendin Friday, Feb. 03, 2006 at 8:03 AM

Israel should stop all evacuations. Why would they give land to terrorists that are intend to distroy them. In my opinion the jewish settlers have a right to be their and they should not be expelled, but protected.
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Absolutely

by fresca Friday, Feb. 03, 2006 at 9:11 AM

Even I have a hard time feeling too bad for the settlers injured in this "riot".

Unfortunately, the sttlements must be removed before any peace is acheived. We've long known that Israel would ultimately have to give some of it's land to the "palestinians" and it must start with these settlements.

The second post is true as well. If the rioters had been "palestinian" they would have definetly been put down.

End the settlements.
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Wrong again

by Fredric L. Rice Friday, Feb. 03, 2006 at 1:14 PM
frice@skeptictank.org

> We've long known that Israel would ultimately
> have to give some of it's land to the "palestinians"
> and it must start with these settlements.

And another FOX "News" Syndrome victim clocks in with his expression of abject ignorance.

The Israeli terrorists invaded Palestine. People have the right to defend themselves and their country from invading terrorist butchers. Israel need merely stop its occupation and end its invasion and their victims will stop their own atrocities against Israel.

The article's author spews a lot of stupid crap -- like the notion that when Jews are oppressed anywhere in the world, nobody cares. Fact is that when SOSMM / KKK / Aryan Nations / Nazis / Skinheads were cropping up anywhere in the EU or the United States, masses of people came out to oppose them in overwhelming numbers.

Israel is a terrorist State, roughly equal to this terrorist fascist regime in the United States. The Israeli terrorists commit crimes against humanity just as the Bush regime dones, and just like the Bush regime, the Israeli terrorist state blames their victims. "Look what you made me do."

How typical. This brutal fascist terrorist State here invaded Iraq and when the Iraqi freedom fighters defended themselves, their children's lives, and their country against the Christian terrorist invaders, the fascists labeled them "terrorists" or "insurgents." As if people defending themselves don't have the right.

If you follow the Israeli and United States' protestations of innocence and labeling their victims "terrorists," then Austrians and Polacks were "terrorists" when they fought against the invasion and occupation of Nazi Germany.

Look up what the meaning of "Asymmetric Warfare" is and why oppressed, invaded, slaughtered people feel the need to engage in it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric_warfare

Then go research how and why the people of Afghanistan successfully defended themselves against the brutal invasion of their country by the Soviet Union.

In other words, get a fucking clue.

My opinions only and only my opinions.
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Frederdick Le Lice

by Scorpio Friday, Feb. 03, 2006 at 1:35 PM

Freddie said: "This brutal fascist terrorist State here ..."

Translation: Despite the fact that I hate my own country I don't have the courage to live in a Socialist Utopia like North Korea, so I remain here to enjoy the blessings of the United States. In conclusion, my main function as an organism is to stand on the sideleines and stomp my feet whenever my home team scores points.
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'hate our country'

by Viz Friday, Feb. 03, 2006 at 1:56 PM

The ones who hate this country are the ones who are letting the criminals
a free pass while they tell patriots to love "it" or leave "it".
You forget that only sycophants and cowards refuse to stand up for justice.
This IS our country. Why don't you leave it if you hate the citizens in this land who will not kiss the royal ass of their new king george.
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Fizzy Vizzy

by Scorpio Friday, Feb. 03, 2006 at 2:16 PM

Viz said: "The ones who hate this country are the ones who are letting the criminals
a free pass while they tell patriots to love "it" or leave "it".
You forget that only sycophants and cowards refuse to stand up for justice.
This IS our country. Why don't you leave it if you hate the citizens in this land who will not kiss the royal ass of their new king george."

Tell me, Vizzy... is this supposed to pass as some sort of informed response? Your atrocious grammer and failure to express a lucid point confirm that you're nothing more than yet another functionally illiterate leftist who's only goal in life is to become a ward of the state. Vegetables like you are a dime a dozen at protests and on college campuses. Spare me your tortured responses.
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Typical Leftist gibberish

by fresca Friday, Feb. 03, 2006 at 2:18 PM

Another perfect example of the very mindset that will forever prevent peace in Israel/"palesyine".

How many times will the left continue to spew the old lie that Isreal somehow "invaded" the so-called occupied territories.

The facts are irrefutable. prior to 1967 Gaza, the WB and the GH were under control of Egypt, Jordan and Syria respectively. AND they had NEVER been under Israeli control before that.

It was the failed attempt by these three arab states during the Six Day War to try an annihilate Israel which resulted in Israel acguiring these lands.

OF COURSE these lands belong to Israel. They NEVER were a part of any state called "palestine". NEVER.

Israel NEVER invaded an inch of territory in an effort to gain these lands.

They were forfeited by three aggressive muslim states in 1967.

It is AMAZING that the left can actually still trot out this FANTASY of the invading Israeli's and some land theft.

By all rights, Israel could simply settle every inch of the land. it's to their credit that they don't. That they are actually dismantling the settlements in the name of peace.

Again, Israel will, of course, be the side which makes the overtures of peace.

But this notion of the "invaded palestinians" is simply absurd.

It never happened.

That said, I'm glad Israel is dismantling these settlements and ultimately naking a gift of the land to the terro, er "palestinians".
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Typical rightard spin

by Fredric L. Rice Friday, Feb. 03, 2006 at 3:21 PM
frice@skeptictank.org

As usual we see the rightards who support and defend terrorist States can't address the issues -- and resorts to name calling, as if that'll make the truth some how disappear.

Didn't work, rightard.
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Uh, actually

by fresca Friday, Feb. 03, 2006 at 3:56 PM

"can't address the issues"

talk about classic conspiracy theory newspeak.

Not only did I ADDRESS the issues. I explained them clearly with historical fact and utterly REFUTED your inane fantasies.

You are wayyy out of your league on this one fred. You clearly no nothing of the history of the region.

Israel has yet to invade any part of any land known as "palestine".

the so called "occupied terrirtories were former areas of three different aggressive arab states.

These lands were rightfully acquired by Israel in 1967.

Israel seems to be in the process of GIVING them as a GIFT to the would be "palestinians".

Absolutely EVERYTHINg I just typed is IRREFUTABLE.

Now, I'm certainly not going to hold my breath, but let's just see if fred or any of his ilk can address these issues.
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Rightard kook spew

by Fredric L. Rice Friday, Feb. 03, 2006 at 4:51 PM
frice@skeptictank.org

Typical rightard kook spew -- refuse to address the issues and when called on it, proclaim he addressed the issues. That's the Republican IQ at work, folks.

Here's a fact the rightard can't address: Israel invaded Palestine, committing crimes and atrocities against humanity and is currently a brutal, bloody occupation terrorist State.

Here's another fact the rightard can't address: The Christian fascist terrorist State under the Bush regime has done exactly what Israel did and exactly what the Soviet Union did in Afghanistan -- not to mention what Molosovich did in Lebanon, Ariel Sharon did in Lebanon.

And another fact for the rightard to "forget" to address: This brutal Christian fascist regime's crimes against humanity are exactly equal to everything Molosovich did and was inprisoned for. At the same time Ariel Sharon is a convicted war criminal who was tried and convicted for the same crimes against humanity that Molosovich was tried and convicted for.

Finally another smack up against the rightard denial simmering in FOX "News" Syndrome stupidity: Saddam's on trial for the very crimes and atrocities that Israel has been committing, the very crimes that this Christian fascist Bush regime has been and continues to commit.

Now. When the rightard is capable of addressing the issues, take yer frocking thorazine, a deep breath, try to calm yourself, and see if you can do so rationally.

Thanks!

In the mean time, the rest of us will continue to condemn the crimes against humanity and the treason against America that you seem to be defending.

My opinions only and only my opinions.
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fred

by fresca Friday, Feb. 03, 2006 at 5:27 PM

"refuse to address the issues and when called on it, proclaim he addressed the issues."

Fred, you do realize that you are being made sport of at this point don't you.


You're providing a textbook example of the deluded conspiracy theory mind at work.

To keep claiming that the "rightards" (I can't belive that I even re-typed that one) are not addressing the issues, when in fact you keep getting schooled, over and over agin, on said issues is a classic example of denial.

To recap in a concise manner so that it will be easy to c and p every time that you lapse into this mode again, here, again is the addressing of the issues.

By the way, all of your "issues" are truly unaddressable in that they are merely a concoction of your imagination. But let's just go through them one by one.

Israel invaded "palestine". No, it didn't. read the above or any history of the region. There has never been a "palestine" to invade AND the so called occupied terrirtories were part of Egypt, Syria and Jordan before they were rightfully acquired by Israel. Your mythical "palestinians", much like the hobbits don't exist and were never invaded. Feel free to prove me wrong.

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"The Christian fascist terrorist State under the Bush regime has done exactly what Israel did and exactly what the Soviet Union did in Afghanistan -- not to mention what Molosovich did in Lebanon, Ariel Sharon did in Lebanon."

To date, there is no Christian fascist state on earth. I suppose Spain could have been roughly considered one but that's about it. Other than that your point is pointless. You make no sense and no assertions and you strive to concoct some weird relationship between Milosevic (learn to spell) and Lebanon.

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And another fact for the rightard to "forget" to address: This brutal Christian fascist regime's crimes against humanity are exactly equal to everything Molosovich did and was inprisoned for. At the same time Ariel Sharon is a convicted war criminal who was tried and convicted for the same crimes against humanity that Molosovich was tried and convicted for.

No. Milosevic was trying to purge all muslims. To date neither the US nor Israel have even remotely come close to the very idea of that much less the practice. There is nothing akin to rethnic cleansing in either Iraq or Israel, regardless of leftist hyperbole. And as for Sharon, he has never been tried much less convicted of any war crimes. He simply hasn't. History is definetely not on your side on this one.

******************************************

Finally another smack up against the rightard denial simmering in FOX "News" Syndrome stupidity: Saddam's on trial for the very crimes and atrocities that Israel has been committing, the very crimes that this Christian fascist Bush regime has been and continues to commit.


No. The US and Israel have yet to gas and slaughter their own citizens as Sadam had. The comparison simply doesn't hold. Not even remotely. Israel's actions, while at times heavyhanded, are ultimately defensesive. Our actions in Iraq, while admittedly limpwristed are absolutely defensive , and retaliatory. Sadam killed his own people for pure personal gain.

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Now, with that you've been utterly trounced. All of your concocted "issues" have been clearly addressed and utterly deflated.

Again, I don't expect to here much in the way of a response other than some typical leftist mispelled name calling.
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Ah, an admitted troll

by Fredric L. Rice Saturday, Feb. 04, 2006 at 10:35 AM
frice@skeptictank.org

> Fred, you do realize that you are being
> made sport of at this point don't you.

So the rightard is now claiming he's an admitted troll. Amazing.

What's also telling is that this clown refuses to recognize Palestine, trying to pretend it doesn't exist. That's ironic since so many Muslims refuse to recognize Israel's right to exist.

What's also telling is that this clown defends the Euiropean invasion of the United States and the virtual extermination of the domestic populace. It's okay because there was no "Navajo Nation" when the Europeans invaded, slaughtered, and enslaved them, and that makes it all acceptable.

Refusing to recognize the fact that Palestine was a nation, was invaded by inhuman butchers, and is currently being occupied by same fits well with this clown's SOSMM ideologies.

He's a fairly typical Republican loser.

My opinions only and only my opinions.
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Fresca

by Scorpio Saturday, Feb. 04, 2006 at 11:18 AM

Fresca... Your points are well made but wasted on chemically stupid imbeciles like Freddie. Nothing will ever alter his mind. He's a terrorist supporter and once someone is in that mindset they can't be changed. Bottom line: He hates Jews and would like to see Muslims destroy each and every one of them. Arguing with him is like arguing with a recalcitrant child who understands nothing.

That said, keep up the good work.
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scorpio are you posting from the same psyche ward as fresca?

by just wondering Saturday, Feb. 04, 2006 at 6:55 PM

hey, everybody (anti-zionists), ja is right. fresca is just here _to wind you up_ and get attention.s/he's just going to post the same inflammatory cracks over and over again. s/he is just a zionist flamer stroking off and when you really react, she cums. okay? not that she shouldn't be deleted. s/he's sick!
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Actually not

by fresca Saturday, Feb. 04, 2006 at 7:31 PM

Actually, I'm just here to teach a little history.

Clearly, fred and his ilk missed quite a few lessons somewhere along the line.

For instance, the history of the Six Day War. Obviously, most of the IMC Jewhaters missed all that.

I'll be here as long as people like fred insist on flat out lying about the Israeli-"palestinian" issue and insist on blaming Israel for all of the problems beseiging the islamic world/culture.

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"IMC Jewhaters"

by Lucifer Sunday, Feb. 05, 2006 at 9:04 AM

How the mewling Zionists always hide.
"We were attacked"

Another lie from this standard bucket of lies.
>"Moshe Dayan, the celebrated commander who, as Defense Minister in 1967, gave the order to conquer the Golan...[said] many of the firefights with the Syrians were deliberately provoked by Israel, and the kibbutz residents who pressed the Government to take the Golan Heights did so less for security than for the farmland...[Dayan stated] 'They didn't even try to hide their greed for the land...We would send a tractor to plow some area where it wasn't possible to do anything, in the demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn't shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance further, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot.

And then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that's how it was...The Syrians, on the fourth day of the war, were not a threat to us.'" The New York Times, May 11, 1997<


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Okay

by fresca Sunday, Feb. 05, 2006 at 9:24 AM

"How the mewling Zionists always hide.
"We were attacked" "

So, you're going to give us some new version of history. One in which Israel was not attcked in 1967. A version where Egypt, Syria and Jordan were just sitting around minding their own business when, out of nowhere, Israel instituted a crushing war of aggression in order to perpetrate a landgrab.

Is that the new version you'll be giving us?


Should be interesting.


Now, having seen and crushed the attempt on three fronts of the muslims trying to annihilate her, Israel by all rights can only be commended for not taking ALL of the land of these ethnically cleansing minded countries.

But you do help prove a point. In neither of our versions are there any "palestinian" people involved. Only Israelis, Egyptians, Jordanians and Syrians.
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By the way

by fresca Sunday, Feb. 05, 2006 at 9:27 AM

"The Syrians, on the fourth day of the war, were not a threat to us."

But evidently they were on the first three days which is why Israel was correct in crushing them and rightfully taking the Golen Heights.

I mean, even you would agree that any preemptive war of aggression is illegal and immoral right?

Isn't that what you're always going on about concerning the US and Iraq?
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