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update: crackdown on immigrant rights in Costa Mesa

by Duane Roberts Sunday, Jan. 29, 2006 at 4:04 AM

Latest news on Costa Mesa, California’s crackdown on immigrant rights

An update of the latest events related to the
crackdown on immigrant rights in Costa Mesa.

From the Orange County Organizer: (distribute widely)

Latest news on Costa Mesa, California
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Mexica Movement's first

by Don Silva Sunday, Jan. 29, 2006 at 5:12 PM

You know Duane, you are beginning to sound soooo silly lately that I can not but hope that when the Mexica Movement types take over, that you will be their first deportation back to Europe. That way, you, me, and Joe Turner can be on the first boat back together !
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Vote on the Future

by QUIZNO Sunday, Jan. 29, 2006 at 7:48 PM

What will happen tomorrow if we don't *do* *something* right away?

[ ] The Rapture
[ ] The Reconquista
[ ] The Terrorist Invasion
[ ] The New World Order (aka UN)
[ ] Another Day Working to Make a Little Scratch

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To Donnie

by Donnie is a hypocrite Sunday, Jan. 29, 2006 at 8:27 PM

you are being silly donnie. you are Judas Iscariot that's right I called you Judas. and u do not know one thing about being a christian. Will Jesus scapegoat people? like you and your minoins do.
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Jesus Was A Minuteman

by TheWatchdog Sunday, Jan. 29, 2006 at 9:48 PM

He said to be kind and generous but not to be a fool.
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How do you know that Jesus was a Minuteman?

by aeiou Sunday, Jan. 29, 2006 at 9:57 PM

Are you a woman?
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No papers

by Leslie Sunday, Jan. 29, 2006 at 9:59 PM

for the holy family, I'm guessing, on the run from Palestine to Egypt.
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"I didn't come to destroy the Law but to fulfill it

by hmm Sunday, Jan. 29, 2006 at 11:18 PM


'Obey the laws and respect government officials." Sovereign.Thus, Jesus advises us to pay our taxes, as He also paid them. .

Obey the government, for God is the one who put it there. All governments have been placed in power by God. So those who refuse to obey the laws of the land are refusing to obey God, and punishment will follow. So you must obey the government for two reasons: to keep from being punished and to keep a clear conscience.

Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive.

The teachers of the Law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' sit. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you.”

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I prefer Jefferson to Jesus

by Duane J. Roberts Monday, Jan. 30, 2006 at 1:04 AM
duaneroberts92804@yahoo.com

On Saturday, Jan. 28, 2006 at 11:18 PM, hmm wrote:

> 'Obey the laws and respect government
> officials." Sovereign.Thus, Jesus advises
> us to pay our taxes, as He also paid them. .

"The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable
on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept
alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better
so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion
now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere."

-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Abigail Adams, 1787.

> Obey the government, for God is the one who
> put it there. All governments have been placed in
> power by God. So those who refuse to obey the
> laws of the land are refusing to obey God,
> and punishment will follow. So you must
> obey the government for two reasons: to
> keep from being punished and to keep a
> clear conscience.

"When, in the course of human events, it becomes
necessary for one people to dissolve the political
bands which have connected them with another, and
to assume among the powers of the earth the
separate and equal station to which the laws of nature
and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to
the opinions of mankind requires that they should
declare the causes which impel them to the
separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident;
that all men are created equal; that they are endowed
by their creator with certain inalienable rights; that
among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of
happiness; that to secure these rights, governments
are instituted among men, deriving their just powers
from the consent of the governed; that whenever any
form of government becomes destructive to these
ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it,
and to institute new government, laying its foundation
on such principles, and organizing its powers in such
form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their
safety and happiness."

-- Thomas Jefferson, author, Declaration of
Independence, July 4, 1776.


> Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive.

"The oppressed should rebel, and they will continue
to rebel and raise disturbance until their civil rights are
fully restored to them and all partial distinctions,
exclusions and incapacitations are removed."

-- Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Religion, Papers
1:548, 1776.


"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are
not warned from time to time that their people
preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.
The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon
and pacify them."

-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Stephens Smith,
1787.

> The teachers of the Law and the Pharisees
> sit in Moses' sit. So you must obey them
> and do everything they tell you.”

"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God."

--Thomas Jefferson


"All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man.
The general spread of the light of science has already
laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the
mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on
their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred,
ready to ride them legitimately, by the grace of God."

-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Roger C. Weightman,
June 24, 1826.


Sincerely,

Duane J. Roberts
duaneroberts92804@yahoo.com
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Leslie and Enrique Morones Should Stop Bringing Jesus into

by Jeff Monday, Jan. 30, 2006 at 6:40 AM

the border debate.

he affectionate sentiments of esteem & approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful & zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, and in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more & more pleasing.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state. [Congress thus inhibited from acts respecting religion, and the Executive authorised only to execute their acts, I have refrained from presenting even occasional performances of devotion presented indeed legally where an Executive is the legal head of a national church, but subject here, as religious exercises only to the voluntary regulations and discipline of each respective sect.] Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.

I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection and blessing of the common Father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves and your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.
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Jesus

by Donnie is a hypocrite Monday, Jan. 30, 2006 at 7:36 AM

first tell GW Bush to stop using Jesus name and christianity . He was the one who use it first but i doubt it you will write the letter. right?
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and then jeff can

by Leslie Monday, Jan. 30, 2006 at 12:07 PM

tell Ayatollah and TheWatchdog, who started this, to leave Jesus at the doorstep. They are the ones who invoked religion on behalf of the state's interests. Jeff, you have no problem with TheWatchdog's claim that "Jesus was a Minuteman"? waddya think--did Jesus turn Mary and Joseph over to the Egyptian border patrol?

"Mom, Dad, I'm a Minuteman now. A few years back you ran away from the Roman law that said all boy children under 2 should be killed. Yes, I know you were only thinking of me and that angel god sent, but UNDER THE STATE'S LAW I should have been killed back then. Since god says the state is always right (that's in the Minuteman oath), I shouldn't be alive now. I can't do much about that, but I can make sure we get what's coming to us. Under HR4437 you and I are felons, so we're all going back to Egypt to pay our debt to society and live out the rest of our lives in an Egyptian prison. I had other plans, but THE LAW OF THE STATE is numero uno in my book."

Of course, then god the father wouldn't be a Minuteman, since he was the one who told Mary to pack up and "invade" Egypt. Small father-son squabble over that one, I'll bet.

I wonder if their arrival set off alarm bells in Egypt of a Jewish reconquista?

If TheWatchdog, Ayatollah, and others keep using their god to defend their theocracy and statology, I will keep trying to rescue their god from that heresy. Jesus was better than that.
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Wake me when it's over

by Ayatollahgondola Monday, Jan. 30, 2006 at 1:28 PM

Are the ministers getting more boring or what?

So under your defensive position sister Leslie, we all become mexicans? and then we just bribe our way through the justice system?
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Seditious and treasonous language!

by JOE TURNUR Monday, Jan. 30, 2006 at 11:48 PM
joe@fascism.org

> "When, in the course of human events, it becomes
> necessary for one people to dissolve the political
> bands which have connected them with another,
> and to assume among the powers of the earth
> the separate and equal station to which the laws
> of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a
> decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires
> that they should declare the causes which impel
> them to the separation. We hold these truths to be
> self-evident; that all men are created equal; that
> they are endowed by their creator with certain
> inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty,
> and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these
> rights, governments are instituted among men,
> deriving their just powers from the consent of the
> governed; that whenever any form of government
> becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of
> the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new
> government, laying its foundation on such
> principles, and organizing its powers in such
> form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect
> their safety and happiness."
>
> -- Thomas Jefferson, author, Declaration of
> Independence, July 4, 1776.

Such seditious and treasonous language! I'm reporting this goon to the Department of Homeland Security!

JOE TURNUR
Executive Director,
Submit to Our Fascist State
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