A Racist group is planning to conduct a border watch from Mexico. Not content to wait until the migrants actually get to the fence, this group wants to secretly observe them while preparing to cross. A recent post on the racist SOS website is from somebody named roger young asking for recruits. This group plans to do their first op in Janurary.

The Mexican government needs to be informed that spies will be operating on their soil and to take the appropriate actions. There will be some justice when they are caught and hopefully prosecuted as illegal aliens.

http://www.saveourstate.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=6515&st=0&gopid=63808&

You'll more likely get justice here than in Mexico. In other news, looks like SOS will be back in Glendale on January 7th.

http://www.saveourstate.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=6576

Like I said, I'm not taking a clear side in the issue of people here against US immigration laws. Call me soft, but the general idea of people here against US immigration laws doesn't get me annoyed anymore. But I'll oppose the behavior of SOS/Gilchrist supporters that I've seen in person(and have footage of). I got over that kind of thing, why can't they by now?

The behavior of some of their opposition? Sure, I'd oppose that too. But I've never been involved in whatever groups do that so I don't know of any dirty secrets in them. And for what it's worth, they may actually think they're fighting hatred and racism. Would I care if people got rough on hardcore KKK skinheads demonstrating flags and Hitler salutes? Nope.

As for SOS, Gilchrist supporters, and Minuteman participants, I'm sure most of them mean well. But they could be racist in what they're doing. Not saying they are, but I'm sure it's debatable. Maybe that's why they're being flat out called "racists" in the streets? If so, it's not clear enough why.

If all the people here against US immigration laws, SOS sure does pick on the ones from south of the US/Mexican border a lot. They wear shirts that say "Illegal Alieans, we don't want you!" and protest at day labor spots where the workers are largely from south of the mentioned border. They're so driven, you have a guy walking around a liquor store in Lake Forest protesting and saying he's defending this country.

I await the next person to say "okay, hold on a minute here..." and step back from all this like I did.

What's "racist" about asking immigrants to come here legally?

Let's look at it from another angle - how many people can you allow into your own house? How much food do you have? How much money? Can you absorb the extra food and electricity and water bills? Are you absolutely certain they'll all pull their own weight? Are you sure none of them are diseased? Are you sure you won't wake up in the morning and find your Playstation gone?

I suspect the word "racist" was used because acne cripple parrots only have the capability of opening their gullets and spouting Borgisms.


Parrots mirror human mental disorders
WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind., Dec. 21 (UPI) -- A caged bird doing loop-the-loops or pulling out its feathers may provide insight into similar stress-caused human behavior, Purdue scientists say.

A study of abnormal repetitive behaviors practiced by Orange-winged Amazon parrots indicates environment plays a role in two types of behavior that the caged birds perform. One of the behaviors, feather picking, closely mirrors compulsive behaviors in humans, according to Purdue University and University of California at Davis researchers.

The study also helped debunk a timeworn belief that parrots teach each other feather picking.

"There is a lot of merit in studying abnormal behaviors just in terms of figuring out ways to control them for the welfare of both companion animals and those bred for production agriculture," said Joseph Garner, a Purdue assistant professor of animal sciences and the study's lead author. "Another benefit is that if animal abnormal behavior is caused in the same way as in humans, then we may have a whole new range of model animals for studying human mental disorders."

Results of the research are to appear in the January issue of Applied Animal Behavior Science and currently appear on the journal's Web site.

Are Mexicans "racist"? Stay tuned for lowbrow comedy as a sloganeering fuckwit tries to reconcile this:


Mexico admits anti-immigrant stance

By Mark Stevenson
ASSOCIATED PRESS

December 22, 2005

MEXICO CITY – Mexico's federal Human Rights Commission acknowledged yesterday that the country mistreats many immigrants – mainly Central Americans – and uses some of the same methods on them that it opposes in the United States.

The admission comes as Mexican Foreign Relations Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez called on Latin American countries to unite against an immigration enforcement bill passed Friday by the U.S. House of Representatives.

The bill proposes making illegal entry to the U.S. a felony and enlisting military and local law enforcement to help stop illegal entrants. Officials in Mexico City acknowledged that Mexico already does both.

"(Mexico's) population law does include prison terms for illegally entering the country . . . and this is something that has been the subject of constant complaints," said Mauricio Farah, a national inspector for the rights commission.

Article 123 of Mexico's population law states that "foreigners illegally entering the country will be subject to punishment of up to two years in prison" and fines of up to $28,220. Such prison sentences are rarely imposed in practice.

The commission presented a report that found overcrowding, poor treatment and generally bad conditions at many of the country's 51 immigration detention centers and 68 other holding facilities. The detention areas hold mainly Central American immigrants before they are deported back to their home countries. The facilities often lack working restrooms, blankets, sleeping mats, adequate food and medical care.

The commission urged the government to improve conditions and set clear standards for such facilities.

While acknowledging the mistreatment, José Luis Soberanes, president of the rights commission, said the U.S. proposal to build 700 miles of additional fences or walls along the U.S.-Mexican border is "absurd."

The U.S. needs to make more aggressive steps to prevent these illegals from invading our country. Why don't these mexicans stay in their own country and fight for jobs and justice? Only cowards flee their country without putting up a fight.

Also, why do U.S. tax paying citizens have to pay for all of these illegitimate babies that are being born in the U.S.? This is unfair to all of the legal citizens of the U.S.

"I await the next person to say "okay, hold on a minute here..." and step back from all this like I did."
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Step back? ....you? You have constantly stepped towards SOS one way or another. An infatuation is more descriptive.

I don't believe you will inspire anyone there Crockster. I didn't see too many of us SOS faithful following your lead even while you were supposedly a card carrying member.
And who the hell would be interested in sharing the perch of a parrot who's repetitious vocabulary seems to be limited to:
(Braaaaawk, whistle) "racist nazi"
(Braaaaawk, whistle) "racist nazi"
(Braaaaawk, whistle) "racist nazi"
(Braaaaawk, whistle) "racist nazi"

>What's "racist" about asking immigrants to come here legally?

Technically, it's not racist as much as it's "classist". Mexican people with journeyman level skills don't really fit one of the categories of eligible legal immigrants.

At the same time, there are tens of thousands of legal immigrants. They tend to be skilled, or, often, very highly skilled. Or they're related to someone with skills. Maybe they were educated in the USA. Maybe their intention all along was to move to the US after getting a masters or doctorate. These people are all basically middle class or wealthier, and, for them, no real border exists between the US and Mexico.

So, if you are, say, a mason, or a carpenter, or lower level management, or just a cook, you can forget about coming to the USA. The door is shut to you. You can try to get in line, and wait ten years to get in legally, but odds are, that's not going to happen. In that ten years, you're going to age. You'll be in your 30s or 40s before you get into the USA legally. That's if they even let you in!

Given the reality of immigration law for Mexicans (and Irish and Chinese too), for the working class person, coming over and breaking the law is the most logical, most sensible thing to do.

The incentives are definitely there to do it illegally. First off, you increase your odds of getting legal if you have kids who end up in college. Kids in college are like a key that unlocks some doors.

Second, by being here illegally, you can make business connections and adapt to the local economy, so you can focus on getting relevant skills. Once you have relevant skills, you can get into a category that can immigrate legally. You *cannot* really get relevant skills by working in another country. (Here's an analagous situation - imagine trying to get into the entertainment biz by living in Iowa. It ain't going to happen. You have to be in LA or NY.)

Third, by being here illegally, you can actually save up more money to immigrate. You cannot save up so easily in Mexico, unless you're already middle class. (In which case, the border barely exists for you anyway.)

I never flat out called anyone from SOS/MMP/Gilchrist/CCIR a "racist nazi."

Sped says: "There will be some justice when they are caught and hopefully prosecuted as illegal aliens. "

Hmmmm... so its OK for Mexicans to come here illegally (and if you don't agree with that you are a 'racist'), but you want these Americans charged with illegal immigration if they go onto Mexican soil.

Thank you, Sped, for encapsulating better than anyone I've ever seen the utter hypocrisy, moral bankruptcy and blatant mental retardation of the 'no borders' movement.

Congratulations and Merry Christmas!

And it will always be.

-'The time is long past due when we need to get in the streets and take you unbathed Collaborators out.'-

Are you really taking the streets? Don't forget to dress warm after dark.

this all ties together with the original thread header.
Individuals who want armed teams on the border, are represented by psychopaths like Shasy, the authentic mental cripple and his co worker (could be the same office), fresca. Good examples of hate and agendas of genocide.
We should... pity such stunted mental development and realize their sickness as referenced to their final solution for their 'enemies' who ever we allow them to become and watch them, least they hurt someone.