Religious Persecution of Muslims In The US

More Giants fans claim racial profiling

By JOTHAM SEDERSTROM
DAILY NEWS WRITER

Four fans celebrating a birthday at Giants Stadium were plucked from their seats by New Jersey State Police and detained for nearly an hour as FBI agents probed their religious beliefs, the men charged yesterday.

The alleged racial profiling during the Sept. 19 Giants-Saints game - the second such charge leveled against the stadium on that day - humiliated the men and set off a barrage of hateful jibes from fans in the upper deck, they said.

"When we got the tickets we said, 'This was going to be a day we'll never forget,'" said Mathew Varughese, a Westchester County lawyer. "And, indeed, it was a day we'll never forget."

Varughese, 26, an Indian-American, said FBI agents were cordial, but aggressive as they probed the mens' religious backgrounds and nationalities before releasing them 45 minutes later.

They also allegedly asked the men - two Indian-Americans, a Dominican-American and another friend who is multiracial - if they had cameras or if they had been praying. The friends, all of whom are Christian, answered 'no' to both questions.

A group of Muslim men have said they were the victims of racial profiling and detained at the game for praying.

Varughese and his friends do not plan on filing a lawsuit.

The New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority and the FBI denied the allegations. FBI spokesman Steve Siegel said the agents had responded to concerns from other fans.

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/364885p-310664c.html

NOT REALLY

While I do not agree with the following:

1. War crimes committed by the US are NOT REALLY war crimes.
2. Wars of aggression instigated by the US are NOT REALLY wars of aggression.
3. The persecution of religious and racial minorities in the US is NOT REALLY the persecution of religious and racial minorities.

I must admit that I agree with the following:

1. The US is NOT REALLY the land of opportunity.
2. Democracy in the US is NOT REALLY democracy.
3. Freedom in the US is NOT REALLY freedom.

but most terrorists are Muslims.

It ain't racial profiling, it is just math

No one can hold a candle to the terrorism the US deals out.
No one.

Look it up.

Terrorism +CIA

boring ol BS

Like that stage Nick Burg job.
You know, the one with the fake Muslims and the portion of a face in the foreground of one of the frames with a US service cap on, inside a place that looks just like Abu Garibe

That sure was convincing.
Not

I understand that the beheadings got better with practice.
Director:
" take that watch off, Ivan.- and for god's sake you're supposed to be that other Zakowo guy with only one leg"
"Da , my mistake , sir"
"Christ this is hopeless. Put the head back on and we'll do a final take".

Is this really coming down to who's terrorism and torture is worse??? What a macabre discussion!

I can do something about US atrocities, so I'll focus my attention there.

You say you can do something about US atrocities so you'll start there, but when the abusive employers come to the day labor centers in the US to hunt for victims, you scurry away from that US challenge and defend only the workers, even though the there are clear enemies at the time.
Sounds to me like you are leaning a little towards the hero worship that helping the downtrodden in person often provides rather than doing something that would actually halt the problem, and cripple the industry as a whole.

The massacre at a wedding in the Radisson SAS hotel ballroom took the lives of 17 family members attending the nuptials of what the London Times called a Palestinian “golden couple, beloved of their prominent Palestinian families and friends.” The bombing also killed four Palestinian Authority officials, notably Bashir Nafeh, head of military intelligence on the West Bank.

After two decades of doling out this horror against Israelis, some of whom were also attending festive events (a Passover dinner, a Bar Mitzvah), Palestinians, who form a majority of the Jordanian population, unexpectedly found themselves at the receiving end.

And, guess what: they did not like it.

The brother of a woman injured in the attack told a reporter, “My sister, I love her. I love her to death, and if something happened to her, I’d be really . . .” Choked, he stopped speaking and cried. Another relative called the terrorists “vicious criminals.” A third cried out, “Oh my God, oh my God. Is it possible that Arabs are killing Arabs, Muslims killing Muslims?”

I extend my deepest sympathy to the family. I also hope that Palestinians, who have established a worldwide reputation not just for relying heavily on suicide murder but for doing so enthusiastically, will benefit from this unique learning opportunity.

No other media and school system indoctrinates children to become suicide murderers. No other people holds joyous wakes for dead suicide bombers; no other parents hope their children will blow themselves up. None other receives lavish endorsement and funding for terrorism from the authorities. Nor has another people produced a leader so inextricably tied to terrorism as was Yasir Arafat, nor so bountifully devoted its allegiance to him.

(The memorials of his death on November 11 were marked by effusive statements how “he will remain alive in our hearts” and reaffirmations to continue his work.)

The Amman bombings, attributed to Al-Qaeda, exposed the hypocrisy of Palestinians and their supporters, who condemn terrorism against themselves but not against others, especially not Israelis. Shaker Elsayed, imam of Dar al-Hijrah Mosque in Virginia, denounced the Amman wedding attack as a “senseless act.” Very nice. But Brian Hecht of The Investigative Project notes that Elsayed has a long history of justifying terrorist attacks against Israelis: “the jihad is a must for everyone, a child, a lady and a man,” he has said. “They have to make jihad with every tool that they can.”

Queen Noor of Jordan embodied this hypocrisy when she stated that the Amman terrorists “made a significant tactical error here, because they have attacked innocent civilians, primarily Muslims,” implying her approval had the victims been non-Muslims.

Will the Palestinians’ shameful love affair with suicide killings and “martyrdom” diminish after the atrocity in Amman? Might a taste of their own medicine teach them that what goes around comes around? That barbarism ultimately visits the barbarians too?

Small signs point to a shift in views, at least momentarily and in Jordan. Survey research done in 2004 at Jordan University found two-thirds of Jordanian adults seeing Al-Qaeda in Iraq as “a legitimate resistance organization.” After the bombings, the pollster found that nine of ten survey participants who had previously endorsed Al-Qaeda had changed their minds.

To change Palestinian behavior requires that civilized people finally get tough on suicide terrorism. That means rejecting Hamas as a political organization and excluding dialogue with it. It means shunning propagandistic movies such as “Paradise Now,” a film that whitewashes Palestinian suicide bombing. And it means convicting Palestinian Islamic Jihad operatives Sami Al-Arian and his Florida cohorts.

The message to Palestinians needs to be simple, consistent, and universal: Everyone condemns suicide terrorism, unequivocally, without exceptions, whether the arena is electoral, diplomatic, or educational, and whether the bombing is in Amman or Hadera.

Don't you zionists get tired of pushing your 'poor little Israel' swill?
Palestinians as well as anybody else will fight back at genocide .
It's what you would call a no brainer.

The point was that there are assholes working for the Giants.

These guys don't even realize that a lot of Muslims look like white people.

If I'm reading this correctly, you're asking me to oppose the inherent capitalism in day labor exchanges. And you're connecting capitalism to the use of torture and terrorism by capitalist societies. I'm glad you get the connection.

Part of my answer is the question of relative harm. Is the exchange of labor for payment (at ridiculously low but not illegal rates) by individuals and small businesses at day labor centers a great harm? Hardly, and the benefits to all parties and to the community are significant under current conditions. It's capitalism, yes, there's a pragmatic aspect to opposing SOS for me, and I know that by defending the laborers I'm not discouraging this manifestation of microcapitalism.

As to the more important ideological question, any economic or governmental system that encourages or condones racism and xenophobia is intolerable. Whatever system replaces capitalism (and it will be replaced) must be clear that social oppression is not acceptable. I hope I would oppose oppression (subjugation, dispossession, cultural annihilation, genocide, etc.) wherever it occurs. If that oppression is inherent and necessary to the system, as it is to capitalism, then my opposition is ultimately opposition to the system.

The short version: I haven't lost sight of the prize, but I'm in this round, and I've got a sweet metaphorical Bolo punch for SOS and the Minutemen if I need it. Call it "hero worship of the downtrodden" if that's easier for you.

Religious persecution?

You want religious persecution? Try going to Saudi Arabia or Pakistan. I've been to both. Try practicing Christianity or anything else that isn't Islam there and see what happens to you.

Freedom? You got it good here, tadpole.

You hate America? Fine, go live in 'nuanced' europe (yes, I've been there too) with the rest of the socialist sewage.

You're all mouth. You don't have a freakin CLUE about what's out there and how good you have it here.

Socialist/Communist pond scum like you talk about how terrible America is and how great Cuba is but none one of you has the nards to get up, renounce your US citizenship and defect to Cuba. Not one of you. Gutless leeches all.

888%$^#@$!!!...rantings from the riech-...^%&*$#@&!!!$$$

-You got it good here, tadpole...
socialist sewage...
Socialist/Communist pond scum like you..-

Note from another world traveler.
lord almighty, keep that godlike ego in your pants, sailor.
Quite judgmental, aren't you?

Are you talking about the same Cuba where a revolution took place that ousted another one of the US's puppet dictators or are you talking about the Cuba where thousands of Muslims are being detained indefinitely, tortured, and persecuted because they MIGHT BE terrorists? Just do yourself a big favor and never mention Cuba again or it just may bring up those negative images of Guantánamo that the US media is trying so hard to whitewash....by the way here is a nice link to Amnesty's website about Guantánamo:

http://web.amnesty.org/pages/guantanamobay-index-eng

that old argument again

3'rd time now..

Care to see a few photos? Or do you just want to play games?

Good post, the hypocrisy is astounding in this board of right wing and other clowns.

Give it a rest Hex. You haven't had a valid, useful though since you decided to fall asleep last night.

And thanks for dodging all my points.

Now go finish your homework because the 7th grade is very demanding for a kid like you.

the point is you're a liar - using the strawman game of claiming to have direct experience in the countries in question yet showing the ignorance and narrowmindedness typical of an American

so are we to be treated once more to -

false harvested-off-the-web pictures *that I've seen before*

false IP's when I have the data at hand and evading your own lies about where the 200.xxx.xxx.xxx subnet *you made up* really is - and ISN'T, etc

your "points" are nothing more than opinion - to sell them as facts under the false pretenses you claim renders your judgement moot

and judgement it is - objectiveness it isn't

" Palestinians as well as anybody else will fight back at genocide "

LOL!!! No brainer indeed. The ZIONISTS are the worst "genociders" in history. The "palestinian" population continues to grow, despite the fact that they blow up their children.
Nothing like a bit of hyperbole for palestine.
Hey, did you know that the Jordanians slaughtered more palestinians in three weeks (20,000- Black September), then those killed during their SIXTY YEAR assault on Israel? Looks like the Jordanians are better genociders than the Israelis.

Show me where I lied, Hex. Lets hear it. I actually HAVE been to those countries (former military).

Have you been there, Hex? Unlike you, I've been there and done that. I've talked with the locals and bought products in their markets. I've even fished with them in the Persian Gulf on a dow. I don't need to 'harvest photos off of the web'. You? --- You've seen them on TV.

Bottom line, Hex, is that you don't have a CLUE what its like over there. This is partly the reason your views on the United States look so silly. Get out, travel and learn something.

So lets here it, mouth. What did I lie about?

so tell me - what ARE my views that you label as silly ?

(the answer hence contains the lie)

As I suspected... Hex can't answer a straight question with a straight answer.

He's a perfect example of the intellectually bankrupt and cowardly of the Left.

Go back to the women's department where you belong.