Cindy Sheehan is being disingenuous in denying that she wrote the PNAC Neocon/war for Israel paragraph in the email which was sent to ABC's 'Nightline' on her behalf per her request by James Morris (scroll down to the 'Rhetoric' paragraph of the following Wikipedia URL):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Sheehan

Cindy has still not responded to the following email (posted in the 'Comments' section of the following blog entry as well) which was sent to her directly by Georgina Morris on September 4th, 2005:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cindy-sheehan/from-despair-to-hope_b_8523.html

Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 07:12:39 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Tikkun" <Tikkun@democracyinaction.org>

Subject: Why did We Invite Cindy Sheehan to Speak on Yom Kippur at our SF Synagogue? (She will speak at 3:30 p.m. Thursday)


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Why we invited CINDY SHEEHAN TO SPEAK ON Yom Kippur OCTOBER 13


We are pleased to announce that Cindy Sheehan will be speaking at Beyt Tikkun’s Yom Kippur service on Thursday, Oct. 13, at 3:30 p.m. (the time the break begins). Cindy Sheehan, mother of Casey who died in Iraq, is one of the most compelling, passionate and outspoken family members protesting the Iraq War. She created Camp Casey near Bush’s ranch in Crawford, Texas.

Rabbi Michael Lerner explains why he invited Ms. Sheehan:


Yom Kippur is the Day of Atonement. We take collective responsibility for our sins--not just our personal sins but the sins of our entire society. A majority of Americans today believe that the war in Iraq was a deep mistake. Yet our government continues to use our tax monies to finance this war and has no plans to get out of Iraq. We are morally liable for the sins of a democratic government, and making war is one such sin.

Cindy Sheehan was accused of blaming this war on Israel, but she has denied that charge. We are glad she denies it, because we as Jews strongly oppose the war and also oppose attempts to blame the war on the Jewish people. It is certainly true that AIPAC and other sections of the American Jewish leadership were cheerleaders for the war in Iraq before it started, and that the government of Israel under Ariel Sharon made no secret of its support for the war. Prominent neo-conservative Jews in the Administration championed this war. These are activites for which we in Beyt Tikkun atone, taking collective responsibility for the sins of some. But we do not accept the notion that this was a Jewish war or that the Bush Administration suddenly came under the influence of the Jewish people just because some Jews advocated for the war, anymore than we would blame African Americans by pointing to the roles of Colin Powell and Condeleeza Rice in advocating for this war. The war in Iraq was started and is now continuing because of a vision of America's role in the world as the leading global power both militarily and economically and the view of its non-Jewish leaders that to strengthen our global position the US needed to dominate the oil fields of Iraq and to have a military presence in the Middle East. Using the phoney excuse of weapons of mass destruction, and then later of promoting democracy, the US has continued this war long after the Saddam Hussein dictatorship was overthrown. The Network of Spiritual Progressives of the Tikkun Community has proposed that the US withdraw its troops and replace them with an international force that could conduct genuine democratic elections and a plebiscite separately in each of the three major Iraqi communities (Sunni, Shiite, and Kurd) to determine if these 3 peoples wish to stay together in one state (Iraq was created by the Western colonial powers in the aftermath of World War I, and has been kept together by armed force of the colonialists and then of various Sunni dictators), or to determine what relationship those 3 communities actually want with each other. Though it is true that the US has an ongoing obligation, given the damage that we have already done in Iraq, retaining troops does not fulfill that obligation but only perpetuates the armed struggle. If the US were to make clear that it no longer sought bases or economic domination of the oil fields, it could assemble (either through the UN or independently) a real international coalition that could take over, ensure order, and provide for a genuine democratic process so that the people of Iraq could shape their own future.

We are not organizing a poltiical rally during Yom Kippur services, but a discussion of our responsibility as Americans. We atone for the sins of the U.S. Administration even though we opposed those choices, because America is our homeland and we care deeply for the fate of our country. On Yom Kippur we pray for forgiveness for all the sins in our personal lives, in the lives of the Jewish people, and in the lives of the American people and government, and in the lives of the Israeli people and government. We pray for the wellbeing of the US, Israel, and the entire human race. So, we grieve with Cindy Sheehan and the other parents of Americans and Iraqis who have lost their lives or limbs in this war, just as we grieve for the lives of those who lost their lives in New Orleans because of the failure of our government to strengthen the levees around New Orleans while it directed monies away from that task to support the war in Iraq. We grieve for all the unnecessary suffering on our planet, and on Yom Kippur we take collective responsibility and atone for all the suffering and resolve to do what we can during this coming year of 5766 to heal and repair our world (which is the meaning of the Hebrew word "tikkun"). In our memorial service (Yizkor) we will be praying for a blessing for all those victims of the continuing unnecessary suffering on our planet, and praying for a rational reordering of the political and economic systems that dominate the globe. And during the break between services on Yom Kippur we will listen to a few speakers on this topic, starting with Cindy Sheehan at 3:30.






If you are already planning to come to services, it would be wonderful if you could plan to stay for her talk.



Here are the highlights of the day

Service begins at 9 a.m.
S.F. psychoanalyst Michael Bader will speak about self-blame and repentance at approximately 11:00 a.m.
Beyt Tikkun member Ya’ara Dror will speak about the Torah portion at approximately 11:30 a.m.
Rabbi Michael Lerner will speak about Yizkor (Memorial Service) at approximately 12:30 p.m. and Yizkor will follow.
Musaf will begin approximately 1:30 p.m.
Cindy Sheehan will speak at the break at approximately 3:30p.m.
Mincha which starts after the break at 5:30, will include a talk on the Book of Jonah by Harriet Zeiner.
Ne’ilah will begin at approximately 6:30 p.m.
Havdalah and the delicious vegetarian break-the-fast will begin at approximately 8 p.m. (Please bring something yummy to share, and please make the dish before the fast starts on Wednesday night, and bring it either Thursday morning or during the break Thursday afternoon.)
Registration

If you are not already registered for Yom Kippur and only want to come to hear Cindy Sheehan, you must register at our full service rate: See our website at www.beyttikkun.org for full High Holy Day information.) Incomes under $40,000, cost is $65; incomes between $40k-$70k: $108; incomes over $70k/yr: $185; full-time students: $25. These figures may seem high, but they are for services all day. You can get tickets by calling (415) 575-1432 or at the door on Thursday if space is still available, which we will only know when you arrive since we can’t estimate now how many people will be coming at the last moment. People without registration tickets will NOT be allowed to come in.


Members of Beyt Tikkun Synagogue, of course, come for free—and membership costs 1% of your annual income, but not less than $200 for an individual or $300 for a couple. Monies paid for High Holy Day tickets count toward membership dues. You just deduct this price from the full cost of membership and just pay the difference.

Why We Must Charge

The High Holy Days are the only time in the year that we charge for entry, but we have no alternative; there is no other way to pay for rental of space, supplies, printing and other necessary costs for sustaining the synagogue. (Think of it as no different from the fact that doctors have to charge to give you health services—also an outrage, just as we feel it is an outrage that we have to charge you for services or to hear Sheehan. We need to do it until we’ve created a different society in which all these essential physical and spiritual services are given to everyone for free, as they ought to be—so join the Tikkun Community and work with us to build that new society at www.tikkun.org). Why not have a lower fee just to hear Sheehan? Because this is not a rally for Sheehan, but one part of an ongoing Yom Kippur experience dedicated to inner spiritual change and outer change of our society. We do not want or seek people to come to hear Sheehan who are not participating in the rest of the experience, and for that reson did not buy advertising to promote the information that Sheehan was coming to speak or use her presence to increase attendance. We only want people to come who wish to be part of the larger spiritual process of the day, which begins the night before with Kol Nidre and goes on till the end of the 24 hour fasting, at dark on Thursday night, when we will have our communal vegetarian break-the-fast pot-luck dinner (if you are coming, please bring something vegetarian and delicious to share, and please make the food before the fast day begins).


Food Drive for the Homeless & Hungry

We are also food and supplies for homeless people on the High Holidays--to be given to the SF Food Bank. Green Food Bank barrels will be located at the entrance to our services at McLaren Hall on USF campus so please try to bring a donation of nonperishable foods when you come to services. They ask that you do not bring anything in a glass container. The Food Bank particularly needs the following items:

Canned tuna, fish, meat
Peanut Butter
Soups, stews, and "meals in a can"
100% fruit juices
Beans, rice, pasta

Kol Nidre
Kol Nidre, which begins Yom Kippur on Wednesday night, starts at 7:15p.m. SHARP, so please please please allow yourself at least fifteen minutes to try to find parking in the area of the University of San Francisco’s McLaren Hall, and then another ten minutes to walk to the hall and get yourself seated.


Children
Child care is provided for all services. Childrens’ services are at 11 a.m. on Thursday morning.


Whether or not you come, we wish you a beautiful, love-filled and joyous New Year. Gmar chatimah tovah—may you be sealed in the Book of Life on this Yom Kippur!






P.S. Don’t forget the following other events

Sunday, October 16th: Come to help us build the Sukkah at Rabbi Lerner’s home, 951 Cragmont Ave, Berkeley, starting at 1 p.m.
Saturday, October 22nd: Come to celebrate Sukkot in our community Sukkah at Rabbi Lerner’s home, starting at 10 a.m. and including a celebration of all the nations of the world. Bring something to celebrate a nation that you particularly identify with. Bring a main course vegetarian dish for the afternoon lunch pot-luck, as well.
Tuesday night, October 25th: SIMCHAT TORAH—come and dance with the Torah at the 1st Unitarian Church of San Francisco, 1187 Franklin St., 7:30 p.m. Music, fun and finishing of the Torah reading.
Global Judaism course with Rabbi Lerner (at once a re-introduction to Judaism and a powerful new global vision of what Judaism will evolve to in the 21st century—open to non-Jews, Jews with little background, and Jews who have a sophisticated background). Friday night, October 28th to Sunday afternoon, October 30th. To register: call Emily or Kathryn at 510 528 6250 or 415 575 1432. Pre-registration necessary—this course will only happen if we have at least twenty people pre-registered by Oct. 26th.








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Here is the letter sent directly to Cindy Sheehan on September 4th, 2005 which she still has not responded to:

Cindy Sheehan has still not replied to the following email which was sent to her directly on September 4th, 2005 as it was also posted in the 'Comments' section of the following URL:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cindy-sheehan/dangerous-incompetence_b_6764.html

Here is a copy of the letter:

Cindy,

I am the Mother of James Morris as we have met in person and have spoken on the telephone as well. I would very much like for you to release your AOL email send history for March 15th, 2005 as it will also show that you sent the 'Nightline' email to my son (which he forwarded to the producers of 'Nightline' on your behalf per your request) which included the PNAC Neocon/war for Israel paragraph that you have since disingenuously denied writing. You also sent the same version of the email to Tony Tersch who posted it on your behalf to the 'Bullyard' Internet bulletin board (access the following URL):

http://slate.msn.com/id/2124788/sidebar/2124791/

You smeared my son in order to avoid addressing the truth of the matter. Additional information about such is included at the following URLs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Sheehan

http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2005/08/cindy-sheehan-mother-of-spc-casey.html

Alex Howe (who was handling your PR for Fenton Communications as I assume that he still is) was made aware of the request last week. So far there has been no response from him as he told my son that he would convey the request to you.

I very much support your cause as I have deep sympathy for the loss of Casey but being truthful (about the 'Nightline' email issue) should have been a priority for you.

Sincerely,

Georgina Morris

Christopher Hitchens mentioned Cindy Sheehan and how she mentioned that her son died for Israel in his most recent appearance on C-SPAN (during the 25 year aniversary call-in this past weekend) which one can watch via the link for his segment at the following URL:

http://www.c-span.org/c-span25/viewercalls.asp

The influence of the Israel lobby is here.
I have an idea. 1st let us re investagate the assult on the USS Liberty then kick out all dual citizenship members of the Israeli PINAC and then cut off all aid to this colony of cut throats.
Then worry about Cindy.

Conscious Americans could give a shit what Cindy Sheehan said or didn't say about her son dying for Israel. Please, one minor comment doesn't amount to shit compared to the lies of this adminstration, the atrocities committed by the IDF, and the espionage comitted by the AIPAC pro-Zionist lobby in Washington, whose agents try to infiltrate the IMC now and then. The hypocrisy here is as ridiculous as the Simon Weisenthal's Center's silence on the nazi lineage and racist tendenices of the fuhrer governor in California who paid them off to shut them up of course and now
thinks firefighters and nurses (you know, the REAL people who protect our lives) are a threat to the economic well-being of our state.

error

Did Bush Admirer just diss our former prez, Al Gore?

Noticed that Cindy Sheehan still hasn't responded to the following sent to her by Georgina Morris on September 4th, 2005, but she still continues to lie about what she wrote in the 'Nightline' email (see the email received from Tikkun which is included after the following):

Cindy Sheehan has still not replied to the following email which was sent to her directly on September 4th, 2005 as it was also posted in the 'Comments' section of the following URL:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cindy-sheehan/dangerous-incompetence_b_6764.html

Here is a copy of the letter:

Cindy,

I am the Mother of James Morris as we have met in person and have spoken on the telephone as well. I would very much like for you to release your AOL email send history for March 15th, 2005 as it will also show that you sent the 'Nightline' email to my son (which he forwarded to the producers of 'Nightline' on your behalf per your request) which included the PNAC Neocon/war for Israel paragraph that you have since disingenuously denied writing. You also sent the same version of the email to Tony Tersch who posted it on your behalf to the 'Bullyard' Internet bulletin board (access the following URL):

http://slate.msn.com/id/2124788/sidebar/2124791/

You smeared my son in order to avoid addressing the truth of the matter. Additional information about such is included at the following URLs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Sheehan

http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2005/08/cindy-sheehan-mother-of-spc-casey.html

Alex Howe (who was handling your PR for Fenton Communications as I assume that he still is) was made aware of the request last week. So far there has been no response from him as he told my son that he would convey the request to you.

I very much support your cause as I have deep sympathy for the loss of Casey but being truthful (about the 'Nightline' email issue) should have been a priority for you.

Sincerely,

Georgina Morris

--------------------------------

Cindy is continuing to lie through her teeth as I have lost all respect for her (scroll down to the 'Rhetoric' section of the following URL for the truth):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Sheehan

Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:58:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Tikkun" <Tikkun@democracyinaction.org>

Subject: What Cindy Sheehan Said on Yom Kippur at Beyt Tikkun Synagogue in S.F.

What Cindy Sheehan Said on Yom Kippur at Beyt Tikkun Synagogue in S.F.
from Rabbi Michael Lerner
RabbiLerner@tikkun.org



Beyt Tikkun synagogue traditionally on Yom Kippur has a break between the Musaf service and the Mincha service and we invite speakers/teachers to talk about various social issues for which we in our country need to make atonement. This year we had Cindy Sheehan talk about the Iraq War and Kevin Danaher of Global Exchange talk about environmental issues.

Cindy Sheehan’s presence caused a bit of a stir in the Jewish community and I had demands from the local Jewish newspaper to be able to cover the event and take notes and photographs. I refused. Our synagogue is on the traditional/hallakhic end of the Jewish Renewal spectrum, and we do not allow people to write or in other ways violate Jewish law with regard to the observance of the holiday. The Jewish newspaper reporter seemed outraged, apparently unfamiliar with Jewish religious practice.

The reason for the stir is that Cindy was accused of having said in an email (the authorship of which she denies) that her son had died for Israel. The implication was that because some Jewish neo-cons in the Defense Department had been big advocates for this war, along with Ariel Sharon and his supporters in AIPAC in this country, that this was somehow a Jewish war.

The very first thing Cindy said was that she had heard about these accusations and that they were false. She does not blame the Jewish people and she does not blame Israel for the war in Iraq. Instead, she said, it would be ludicrous to do that, just as it would be ludicrous, she said, to blame the English people for the war just because their leader Tony Blair had been a big advocate for it. Cindy told me privately that she was aware that 78% of Jews had voted for Gore in 2000 and for Kerry in 2004, and that if the rest of the country had voted the way the Jews vote that there never would have been a war in Iraq. Instead, she insisted, it was very clear who deserved blame for the war: Bush, Cheney, the Republicans, and the many Congressional Democrats who supported the war originallyas well as many who continue to support it by voting for authorizations whenever asked for by President Bush, plus Haliburton Corporation and other war profiteers. IT was these, not the Jews, and not Israel, who deserve criticism.

Cindy went on to discuss the war, why it was immoral, why it hurt our country and the Iraqi people, and why we should be advocating to get the U.S. out immediately. She pointed to the emptiness of the argument that “our people in the armed services should not have died in vain” by insisting that she and many other mothers did not want to see more people killed in the name of justifying the deaths of their own already dead children. No mother, she said, should have to bury their own child as she had.
Then she cried about her son. It was a sad and solemn moment for all of us.

During the question and answer period that followed her talk she was asked if she would unequivocally denounce David Duke, the Nazi who had apparently invoked her name and supported her on his website. Cindy responded simply and unequivocally that she had never authorized her name to be used in conjunction with Duke, that he was in fact a racist and anti-Semite and that she wanted to have nothing to do with such people, and that she completely rejected him and his message.

She was asked if she would consider running against Diane Feinstein, the California U.S. Senator who had cheered the day that Bush landed troops in Iraq, has been part of the faction of Democrats who talk about increasing troops as a solution to the problems the US faces there now, and who consistently votes for every new appropriation for the war. Cindy acknowledged that it would be important for the anti-war movement to run a candidate against Feinstein. But she said she would not do it because, as she put it, “I don’t know enough about a lot of issues, like social security or tax codes—what I know about is the war in Iraq, and I know that that is wrong and that Democrats who support it by voting for appropriations are doing something wrong. But I don’t know enough about other things to be a good U.S. Senator.” I do not remember ever hearing any political person acknowledge their own limitations so clearly and forthrightly. Her humility was stunning and moving.

We ended up feeling very proud that we had given Cindy Sheehan a venue on Yom Kippur, but also deeply saddened that our government is playing such a destructive and even self-destructive role in the world today, so we had yet more issues to focus on as we concluded the services that day.

This Monday night, October 17th, starts the Jewish holiday of Succot in which Jews are commanded to dwell in a temporary shelter (the sukkkah, a flimsy shack-like agricultural hut) for 7 days. The focus is on dis-connecting to the world of material things, acknowledging that our lives are fleeting and that nothing is permanent, and living and celebrating nevertheless in the face of radical impermanence. Yet nothing drove that impermanence more forcefully into consciousness than listening to the sad story of how Cindy Sheehan’s son had allowed himself to be talked into enlisting by an armed services recruiter who told him all kinds of fanciful stories about the rights he would have in the army. Our psalms say: “Do not trust in princes, in the son of man who has no salvation.” We’ve learned instead to trust in the God of the universe and in the goodness of ordinary human beings. Cindy Sheehan massively reinforced our belief in that goodness lurking near the surface of most people on the planet.

For more information about Tikkun and the interfaith Network of Spiritual Progressives, go to www.tikkun.org. For more information about Beyt Tikkun synagogue, including a listing of our holiday events and weekly Torah study, plus our weekend re-introduciton to Judaism course (for non-Jews as well as for Jews who have never heard the systematic presentation of a progressive spiritual vision), go to www.BeytTikkun.org.

nessie toots it's horn about how worldly and smart it is, yet posts this picture without having a clue as to it's context. It was an obvious slap at Terry Moran of ABC News. Yet horrifically stupid Leftists, self anointed "intellectuals", don't know that.

Glad to set the "intellectuals" straight.

If this were true, it would have said "Moran" and not "morans".

Oh, and BTW, if "nessie" is such a "mental cripple" how come he gets so much attention?

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A514213EA

I guess people like watching a side-show freak perform

This is typical of Hex.
Reduced to infantile pictures.

that's a good word to describe what I think of your writing and debate style - you play these little word games and insult people's intelligence by asking them to "scroll up and see" - see you flippy-flopping then burying the issue in a whitewash of paranoia-for-all-occasions

never ! always ! iffy

well that makes it all better now

I'm glad I saved some of Timmy's baby powder for you - he used to throw tantrums just like that

You act like a baby - is it any wonder I picture you as one ?

Infantile taunts.
Heh heh....

and only a 'mental cripple DeLuxe' would try to conflate a lie and the ignorance of the Riech into anything but a telling example of bring without a clue.
mental cripple DeLuxe, indeed.

Your juvenile retorts a man can see coming a mile away. But you just have to respond, don't you? Just as nessie must spam at all costs to it's shattered psyche, your mouth must open, lest ye die.

You must emit guttural nonsense from deep within your abdominal braincase.

That's ABOMINABLE braincase, dickweed.
Try to keep up.

"That's ABOMINABLE braincase, dickweed. "

No, Brainiac, it's abdominal, as in your brain is in your nether parts. As in up your ass.

Damn, must we spell everything out for you "intellectuals"?

sheepdog's not one of us

he only has a 1'st to 3'rd grade education

(my honest opinion based on his demostrated knowledge in science)

I gather he and nessie rides the same Short Bus?

And he'll never do that again.

Hex needs back up from the other weasels and snakes, all for little me. [ okay, a little bit for nessie ]
Damn, life is great.
:>)

I think you just backhanded that cretin without realizing it. But that's okay, he doesn't know when he's being violently skullfucked in broad daylight either.

Make yourself useful, SheepDog, and set the clock at the server.

It's fun having you get so emotional about this.
And such talk. My goodness, one would even believe you don't like me.
When I called you a dickweed, it was meant in a nice way.

You need a nice nap you, cranky little rascal.
Maybe all you kids should go nappy time. :>)

We'll go when we know what the right time is. This site apparently is in Newfoundland instead of L.A.

For the weasel-shop conformation.
You guys DO need to work together.
One person types as the other(s) hold his tallywacker and whispers encouragement...
Say hi to your asshole supervisor from me.
:>)

"asshole supervisor"?

You realize that nessie the NAMBLA sympathizer (bound together books) will break out the Schoolgirl Sloganeering Hanbook and read you the riot act about "homophobia"?

Fix that clock and shaddup!

To the poster that gave us this little gif.
Loosing a son or daughter in an illegal war for lies seems to be a point of humor.
This also reveals the sick mentality of the people who cheer this slaughter on. Nice to see in full view, the attitude of some people, about a national response to the pain and legitimate outrage of a mother who questions the killers and fraudulent cowards who began this atrocity which used her son as a piece of toilet paper.
And the death toll just keeps rising.
Fun eh?

She's no "mother". She's nothing but a camera whore, surfing on her son's casket.

Casey Sheehan enlisted on his own, and re-upped. If she truly respected her son, she'd acknowledge that fact and shut the fuck up. But no, she's even weighed in on global warming!?! All she does is spout the same old shit you sloganeering fuckwits do.

Her actions speak volumes. She's mentally disturbed, and so are the ones who follow her along on the road to suicide.

C'mon back and lecture me some more, you terrorist fellator. Tell me how moral the bitch is to stand on a casket and scream "turn the camera on meeeeeeeee!"

" And the death toll just keeps rising"

I bet you were saying that over Hurricane Rita, right? Lecture us about morality, asswipe, while you defend a publicity whore who got *jealous* while people were losing their homes, and some their lives.

How dare people die on the very day that Cindy She-man had planned for so long??? (That was her day in D.C.)

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2005/9/24/85619/4714/25#25

rita (3.33 / 3)

i am watching cnn and it is 100 percent rita...even though it is a little wind and a little rain...it is bad, but there are other things going on in this country today...and in the world!!!!

by CindySheehan on Sat Sep 24, 2005 at 06:29:15 AM PDT
[ Parent ]

you are using this link?
http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2005/9/24/85619/4714/25#25
ha ha
now move your ass like I pay you to.

That was Sheehan's actual post at Kos. She has never denied it, never pulled a nessie and claimed a forgery.

What you see at that link is the true heart of Cindy Sheehan, self anointed mouthpiece of Morality and Death in our Times.

The bitch couldn't stand playing second fiddle to a deadly storm, so what right does the camera whore have in saying anything about death under *any* circumstances?

And speaking of forgeries, read a forger's confession:

http://pittsburgh.indymedia.org/news/2003/11/10972_comment.php#18185

http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2004/07/1698659_comment.php#1699411

http://makeashorterlink.com/?N18F232D8

I absolutely cannot help myself.