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by anonymous
Saturday, Sep. 10, 2005 at 1:33 PM
The incompetent fool Nagin, only now orders people removed from New Orleans.
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Mayor Nagin the punk fool with the blood of thousands on his hands. Now 13 days after Katrina, he orders "holdouts" who's homes are on dry ground and habitable, out. Mayor Nagin only now orders government into action, doing what they do best, dragging people from their homes at gun point. After Mayor Nagin's staggering failure of not implementing the New Orleans City Hurricane Evacuation Plan, which called for the Mayor of N.O. to order the direct evacuation of all persons lacking transportation away from the city of N.O. "not to the superdome" AHEAD and BEFORE the storm, using ALL CITY resources including CITY BUSSES and SCHOOL BUSSES.
Nice work mayor Nagin! Not.
Dont worry Mayor Nagin nobody noticed your failure to act and the resulting deaths. Why not hold another fund raising dinner? Just keep pointing that finger Mayor Nagin.
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by anonymous
Saturday, Sep. 10, 2005 at 1:33 PM
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by anonymous
Saturday, Sep. 10, 2005 at 1:33 PM
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Now demanding a "cruise ship" for his officers to use as a headquarters be brought in.
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by Meyer London
Saturday, Sep. 10, 2005 at 2:48 PM
Those are school district buses. If I am not mistaken, Nagin had no legal authority to seize them or the fuel that would be needed to fill them up, and they would not have carried more than a tiny fraction of the many thousands who were left behind in New Orleans anyway. Bush is the culprit - lay the blame where it belongs. If some disaster had struck Palm Springs, the bourgeois suburbs of Dallas, or Tel Aviv, do you think Bushy Tail would have found some way to rush help there - immediately?
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by ll
Saturday, Sep. 10, 2005 at 5:28 PM
No matter, how many excuses one makes or how much one hates the president.
The fact remains New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin had a yard full of city busses and school busses which his own evacuation plan called for and gave him full authority to use and he failed to act.
Nobody likes Bush but this is bigger than petty politics people, this Mayor's failure to do anything must be investigated.
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by hedafool
Saturday, Sep. 10, 2005 at 9:14 PM
did. Emergency Situation. Authorities can seize what they need
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by Gumby
Saturday, Sep. 10, 2005 at 10:05 PM
Wrong again, Meyer. Nagin had FULL legal authority to commandeer those school buses. They are a city property asset and he is the mayor of the City. Instead, he chose to hold out for GreyHound buses, of which there were far fewer (not to mention a big delay). There were other parts of the official NO Evacuation plan he didn't implement. Not to mention the Govenor wasting at least 24 hours 'thinking over' a suggestion from the president to get more help into the city. Nor to mention the Louisiana State Homeland Security office NOT allowing Red Cross supplies into downtown because they didn't want the Superdome to 'become a magnet'.
Try not to let your visceral rage at Bush blind you to basic facts. There is plenty of blame to go around here, sparky.
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by Gumbo King
Saturday, Sep. 10, 2005 at 11:21 PM
You're so intelligent!
"you're" mistake - ha ha
I think it's *your* mistake. What a fool. Thanks for showing this to everyone. What a 'tard.
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by johnk
Sunday, Sep. 11, 2005 at 8:41 AM
He screwed up. Bush screwed up. There's no "sides" in this, except who's getting screwed, and who's trying to dodge the blame.
The "law and order" agenda blew it (Nagin was a cop). They may not think about this, but order is maintained *without* the force of law most of the time. The people tend to regulate themselves lawfully, simply because they think it's the best thing to do.
Likewise, in an emergency situation, a lot of them have the right idea about how to deal with the situation: loot to survive, and try to get out. That is simply the logic in all chaotic situations. Anything that goes against that logic is either going to fail (if you're lucky) or succeed only by killing some people.
The officials made some critical mistakes. First, protecting property, while important to maintaining order, is not the thing that keeps order -- having people be able to eat and live is the primary factor that keeps order. There are approximately one billion people on earth without a permanent home, so, living without real estate is possible. "Human needs before property deeds."
Second, they believed that trained rescuers were sufficient to evacuate the city and maintain order by exercising their authority. They misestimated their capacity. They didn't understand that scaling up is not a linear process. It tends to increase communication and coordination needs more.
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by Gumby
Sunday, Sep. 11, 2005 at 9:48 AM
Is that really the best you can do? ... Niggle over a typo?
This is typical of juvenile social tapeworms like you... don't address the issue, just find something cosmetic to harp at.
And leftists wonder why people say the left is out of ideas...
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by .
Sunday, Sep. 11, 2005 at 11:06 AM
A typo would be a mis-placed key stroke.
What you did was a typical moron move. You can't understand or use English.
I wait for further buffoonery from you. Keep up the entertainment from idiots who use terms like " leftists" . More riechtard noise without content.
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by gUMBY
Monday, Sep. 12, 2005 at 12:24 PM
I see... Rather than debate the merits of my argument you'd rather dwell on a typo or the definition of the word 'typo' or a mispelling. In other words, like most left wing cry babies, you'd rather change the subject.
This is exactly why LEFTISTS are viewed by others as being intellectually bankrupt. Time and again they refuse to debate, despite their constant blubbering about "open debate".
Get back to me when you actually have a legitimate response to my original posting. Otherwise you're just wasting oxygen.
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by Narf
Monday, Sep. 12, 2005 at 12:43 PM
Anyway you look at it.
Parse that.
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by bunk logic
Monday, Sep. 12, 2005 at 2:18 PM
http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/style.htm Style Over Substance Definition: The manner in which an argument (or arguer) is presented is taken to affect the likelihood that the conclusion is true. Examples: (i) Nixon lost the presidential debate because of the sweat on his forehead. (ii) Trudeau knows how to move a crowd. He must be right. (iii) Why don't you take the advice of that nicely dressed young man? Proof: While it is true that the manner in which an argument is presented will affect whether people believe that its conclusion is true, nonetheless, the truth of the conclusion does not depend on the manner in which the argument is presented. In order to show that this fallacy is being committed, show that the style in this case does not affect the truth or falsity of the conclusion. References: Davis: 61
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by Meyer London
Monday, Sep. 12, 2005 at 5:48 PM
In most areas, the city government is an entirely separate entity from the school district. If this was true in New Orleans, the Mayor had no authority to seize the buses. In any event, most or all of the drivers had already fled, didn't live in New Orleans, or were at home worrying about their own families. Who would drive the buses? Where would the ignition keys be found? Or the fuel? And in any event, those buses could not have moved more than a tiny fraction of the masses of people left behind.
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