"I don't have a problem with Al Sharpton...why would I? He wants what is best for his people and I want what is best for mine." Young Stormfronter.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=227062


" Stormfronters' Rally In Crawford, TX
On Saturday & Sunday Aug. 27 & 28

I am currently driving to Crawford, Texas for our Rally August 26th to help put up a White Nationalist voice in the protest against Bush's War for Israel that was started by Cindy Sheehan.

We'll be uploading digital photos, and maybe video, from Crawford so that Stormfront's 58,000 Members (achieved today) and hundreds of thousands of Guests can follow the events in Crawford from a White patriot perspective."

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45988


Members of Stormfront.org are tossing their figurative hoods into the mix, as they invite supporters to come to Camp Casey to "let the world know that white patriots were first and loudest to protest this war for Israel."

I hope this is not meant to imply that Nazis and left supporters of Cindy Sheehan have similar views. Nazis in the 1920's protested against atrocities by French and Belgian troops occupying parts of Germany and they also protested the Treaty of Versailles, which turned much of the globe over to the tender mercies of British and French imperialism. This hardly made Norman Thomas the American socialist or the various left groups who also denounced these things in Britain co-thinkers with Adolf Hitler.

That is how fascism grows.

It attempts to enlarge itself by getting in the streets. In this situation, they are seeking media attention.

They believe that among the anti-war crowd are white racists who would be swayed by their "white nationalist" rhetoric, which is basically "reign in corporations, and make them pay for socialism, only for white people, and exclude everyone else." (Incidentally, that's roughly the same message as SOS -- except replace "white people" with "citizens".)

They probably think there are some people opposing this war because they believe it's primarily driven by Israel. (The white supremacists wish to remove Jewish people from power, and believe that the US is controlled by Jewish interests.)

Of course, most of their recruitment is in more conservative venues like the SOS, gun shows, and that kind of thing.

That's why they invade groups like SOS, because they think that a lot of people present would be sympathetic to their message. Indeed, the SOS are, because when confronted with the swastikas and battle flags of nazis on their side, they don't kick the racists out, and maybe start a melee with them. Instead, the SOS "tolerate" the "diversity" of fascist thugs who are their allies, and in the case of SOS, their organizers.

(Question to the SOS - who are a greater threat to society? Undocumented aliens or neo-fascist gangs? Your actions speak louder than words.)

There's a common thread within these events they try to infiltrate: hate. They are looking for people who hate Jews, who hate Mexicans, who hate immigrants, who hate non-citizens, and who hate Bush. The only thing they love is the idea of a "white nation" -- they're in love with their own racism. They like violence too, so they're constantly looking for signs of a "race war", and walking around with weapons.

(Question to the SOS - who are a greater threat to society? Undocumented aliens or neo-fascist gangs? Your actions speak louder than words.)

We protest both. and as luck has it these days, sometimes we get to do both at the same time. We just have to get bigger signs to address the racist threat now, as it appears on both sides. It's hard to put a nazi flag, and a mecha or la raza one on our old small signs. One thing we can agree on is that the illegals have caused an increase the amount of racists in America. I'm sure we just disagree on whether the greater portion of them are latin or caucasian.

Undocumented aliens.

I don't like racists.

"white space" - "we need breathing room" - Hitler said that..

equating Latinos as a group with white racists who are by choice and who enjoy privilege/status as citizens yet STILL choose to victimize the powerless by demonizing them rather than going after big business which put it all in motion and bankrolled it to begin with - you know the same interests that fund the "grassroot" efforts that generate the very few supporters you DO have..

If I was you I would dig into what's behind the drive to focus your attention on a powerless group of people - follow the money and see just how few rich people it traces back to

and ask yourself what they have to gain from having wealth freely cross borders but not people

being a puppet on a string isn't much fun once you find out who's pulling them

The tide is turning.

http://www.jimgilchrist.com/

They are looking for hate and with Cindy and crown they have found it

AG> We protest both. and as luck has it these days, sometimes we get to do both at the same time.

I haven't seen SOS protest Nazis. I have read a few people asking the fascists to keep their flags hidden.

Also, I think most of the counter protesters were born here. "Illegals" usually don't go to protests, especially not the kind SOS put together, unless there's a lot of people to blend in with. Most of the counter-protesters are not in Mecha, either.

AG>One thing we can agree on is that the illegals have caused an increase the amount of racists in America. I'm sure we just disagree on whether the greater portion of them are latin [meaning Mecha] or caucasian.

That doesn't make sense. That's kind of like saying having more women in the workplace encourages sexism, or women at West Point cause more young guys to become rapists. Hatred for a person isn't caused by the person being hated -- it's caused by the hater.

If you mean to say that the nationalistic Mexican counter-protesters are "illegal", it's not clear. Most of them seem to be born here or are residents. I don't get the sense that many are even immigrants. They're protesting for ideals, not for their immediate interests.

D>They are looking for hate and with Cindy and crown they have found it.

It's more "anger" than anything else. She lost her son. It's normal to be angry after you lose a child.

Hate's more of an ongoing thing that doesn't pass.

Maybe hate makes you illogical -- like that paragraph above.

I don't think Sheehan is illogical. Bush initiated the war, despite numerous reasons not to. She's opposed to the war. She's focusing her protest on Bush. She knows that she has special status because she lost a son to the war, so she's using it.

> Hatred for a person isn't caused by the person being hated -- it's caused by the hater.

exactly - and it's a classic case of projection - the hater *blames the object of his hate* for the hate - never himself

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> hate makes you illogical

yes - hate is an emotion, no thinking required. that's one of it's main attractions - it relieves you of being a thinking human and allows animalistic emotions and behavior to reign as an acceptable social group, which is why haters band together..


I found the post so full of psychological markers and dysfunctions I didn't even bother to reply point by point as to do so the reply would be longer than the original post, plus the person so afflicted wouldn't "get it" anyway (blindness/denial is a requisite for mental conditions) so insted I tried a stab at appealing to the person's sense of being manipulated as a way to break through the clouds of disperception..

not likely to work either but at least shorter and easyer, while also showing a tendency towards looking at the bigger picture which is a healthy psychological direction to take for such closed minded thinking persons

a person can seem to be normal as far as standard measures of intelligence show, but psychologically very dysfunctional - and they are almost always completely blind to it too

the above post is a great example of this phenomenon..